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firefightermac
06-09-2009, 07:32 AM
Who does them?

I know DC advocates them for fascia stretching, recovery and injury prevention.

An extremely experienced friend of mine has been doing them for quite some time and recently he was doing the chest stretch and snapped his supraspinatus (rotator cuff) completely in half. IMO thats quite detrimental to gains lol as he had surgery for re-attachment and is now 6 months out. Im re-assessing risk vs benefit.

Any thoughts?

newgoal300
06-09-2009, 12:32 PM
they're safe if done correctly, parillo has been doing this for years

sweetjane57
06-09-2009, 01:16 PM
Who does them?

I know DC advocates them for fascia stretching, recovery and injury prevention.

An extremely experienced friend of mine has been doing them for quite some time and recently he was doing the chest stretch and snapped his supraspinatus (rotator cuff) completely in half. IMO thats quite detrimental to gains lol as he had surgery for re-attachment and is now 6 months out. Im re-assessing risk vs benefit.

Any thoughts?

good thought. Crazy how your friend snapped his rc!!!!!!

NOW, I will say that I am NOT an expert with DC. I am a FEMALE who used DC because it WORKED, for ME. I did include every aspect that DC advocates. The stretching helped for RECOVERY, IMO. Everyone will be different though. I would keep the stretching in if I used DC again.

You also have to know your own body and TRAIN SMART. I would use a weight I ABSOLUTELY knew I could handle for the chest stretch, so that I was INJURY FREE. On the other hand there are some people who THINK they can handle more than they should.

just my thoughts.

firefightermac
06-09-2009, 06:29 PM
they're safe if done correctly, parillo has been doing this for years

Like I said, hes very experienced. He does them correctly.

MrAust92
06-26-2009, 07:47 PM
LOL

I am the guy with the torn supraspinatus tendon.

I was thinking that maybe the tendon was frayed/damaged and the stretching was just the "straw that broke the camel's back" but my surgeon (it has now been repaired) told me the whole joint was remarkebly healthy for someone with 20+ years lifting with the exception of the acute tear that he repaired.

Go figure............

Mind you, some of the DC stretches are too extreme for me, Dante talks about doing pec stretches with 2 x 80 lb dumbells in the flye stretch but this would be too risky for me, I do these with much lighter dumbells.

firefightermac
06-26-2009, 08:06 PM
C, what weight were you doing the pec stretch when it tore?

Doggcrapp
06-28-2009, 02:38 PM
I dont understand why you didnt snap your supraspinatus tendon doing flat dumbell presses then.....the stretch is the exact same except that you turn the dumbells in a palm parallel position and drop your elbows.

Ive tried to explain this a million times now that you dont do a straight arm flye, yet people keep doing it. You simply drop your elbows, raise your chest and turn the dumbells palm facing the body. Same position as the bottom of a dumbell press.

dropshot001
06-28-2009, 08:36 PM
I dont understand why you didnt snap your supraspinatus tendon doing flat dumbell presses then.....the stretch is the exact same except that you turn the dumbells in a palm parallel position and drop your elbows.

Ive tried to explain this a million times now that you dont do a straight arm flye, yet people keep doing it. You simply drop your elbows, raise your chest and turn the dumbells palm facing the body. Same position as the bottom of a dumbell press.

i was gonna say the same thing. were you trying to do it with the arms straight out? of course you're going to bust yourself doing it like that.

MrAust92
06-29-2009, 08:18 PM
Just to be clear, I wasnt doing the pec stretch with dumbells when my supraspinatus tore (I just used that as an example of one of DC's stretches which is a bit much for me).

I was actually doing the bicep stretch having just completed an arm workout.

For the record, I am not saying the whole concept is bad (in fact I was a strong advocate until this happened), maybe I had a partial tear just waiting to let go??

Who knows....the surgeon reckons the tendon was very healthy apart from the acute rupture which would seem to suggest a sudden "snapping" rather than a gradual weakening over time.

The important thing is that its fixed now and I am getting more and more ROM every day, cant wait to start training again.

:)

MrAust92
06-29-2009, 08:23 PM
I dont understand why you didnt snap your supraspinatus tendon doing flat dumbell presses then.....the stretch is the exact same except that you turn the dumbells in a palm parallel position and drop your elbows.

Ive tried to explain this a million times now that you dont do a straight arm flye, yet people keep doing it. You simply drop your elbows, raise your chest and turn the dumbells palm facing the body. Same position as the bottom of a dumbell press.

Dante

I have read all your stuff over the years, (I even have an MSWord copy of the entire original CFP thread) so please believe me when I say I have practiced these 100% in line with your recommendations.

I wasnt shit-canning your methods (which I think are unique and innovative), just sharing my experience.

:)

desibaba
07-02-2009, 01:18 PM
I wasnt shit-canning your methods (which I think are unique and innovative), just sharing my experience.

:)
So you promise not to sue him? :p