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HARDCOREB
02-16-2009, 03:33 AM
What's you're favorite low-calorie/sugar free substitute?

enrage
02-16-2009, 09:13 AM
stevia

i'm not a fan of Aspartame and its cancer, Alzheimer causing side effects

GetLean
02-16-2009, 12:33 PM
I'm thinking about getting some D-Xylitol, I heard it adds a minty taste, can anyone clarify this?

Legend
02-16-2009, 04:03 PM
stevia

i'm not a fan of Aspartame and its cancer, Alzheimer causing side effects

lol

chucksm00th
02-17-2009, 01:33 PM
stevia

i'm not a fan of Aspartame and its cancer, Alzheimer causing side effects


where did you read that???

chucksm00th
02-17-2009, 01:35 PM
Diet coke contains aspartame, as does oranges!!!

Youngguns
02-17-2009, 01:45 PM
oranges contain fake sugar? wtf

chucksm00th
02-17-2009, 02:19 PM
oranges contain fake sugar? wtf

Not exactly....Oranges contain Methanol..


WHen the sweetner aspartame in ingested, its methyl ester bond is broken down into methanol which further degrades into formaldehyde. both Methanol and formaldehyde are toxic in high doses, but a person would have to drink 600 cans of diet soda to get as much oif either substance as is contained in a singel orange.
(Discover Magazine (August 2005)


If you dont want to believe me ask the guru himself Dave Palumbo.

There were articles statin diet soda was toxic years ago and that article put that myth to sleep...so drink all the diet coke you want bro!!!:D

Youngguns
02-17-2009, 02:25 PM
Since I stopped eating artificial sweetners my headaches have gone. Also, they don't let pilots fly if they drink diet drinks.

chucksm00th
02-17-2009, 02:27 PM
Hmmm headaches???? I never got them from soda...i guess everyones different...but why cant you drink diet soda while flying?? Are you allowed coffee??

Youngguns
02-17-2009, 02:31 PM
I am not a pilot. It inhibits thoughts. Yes, thoughts. After stopping their consumption I have better memory and train of thought.

enrage
02-17-2009, 02:38 PM
good doc on aspartame

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-566922170441334340


how good can it really be if countries are banning it from their products. the US should follow.

Legend
02-17-2009, 02:43 PM
Since I stopped eating artificial sweetners my headaches have gone. Also, they don't let pilots fly if they drink diet drinks.

Aspartame controversy:

Aspartame has been the subject of controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy) regarding its safety since its initial approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Food_and_Drug_Administration) (FDA) in 1974.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_note-GAO87-19)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_note-20) Some scientific studies, combined with allegations of conflicts of interest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest) in the sweetener's FDA approval process, have been the focus of vocal activism, conspiracy theories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory) and hoaxes regarding postulated risks of aspartame.[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_note-Hawaii-21)[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_note-urbanlegends-22)
A 2007 safety evaluation found that the weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a non-nutritive sweetener.[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_note-CritReview-23) The sources and claims of many alleged aspartame dangers and conspiracies have been the subject of critical examination. In 1987, the U.S. Government Accountability Office (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Accountability_Office) concluded that the food additive approval process had been followed for aspartame.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_note-GAO87-19)[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_note-GAO86-24)

Based on government research reviews and recommendations from advisory bodies such as the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Food_and_Drug_Administration), European Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission)’s Scientific Committee on Food and the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_FAO/WHO_Expert_Committee_on_Food_Additives), aspartame has been found to be safe for human consumption by more than ninety countries worldwide.[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_note-Health_Canada-25)[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_note-FSANZ-26) In 1999, FDA scientists described the safety of aspartame as "clear cut" and stated that the product is "one of the most thoroughly tested and studied food additives the agency has ever approved."[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_note-27)


<LI id=cite_note-GAO87-19>^ a (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_ref-GAO87_19-0) b (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_ref-GAO87_19-1) GAO 1987. "Food Additive Approval Process Followed for Aspartame" (http://www.gao.gov/docdblite/info.php?rptno=HRD-87-46) United States General Accounting Office, GAO/HRD-87-46, June 18, 1987 <LI id=cite_note-20>^ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_ref-20) Sugarman, Carole (1983-07-03). "Controversy Surrounds Sweetener" (http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost_historical/access/125899752.html?dids=125899752:125899752&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT). Washington Post (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Post). pp. D1-2. http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost_historical/access/125899752.html?dids=125899752:125899752&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT (http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost_historical/access/125899752.html?dids=125899752:125899752&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT). Retrieved on 2008-11-25. <LI id=cite_note-Hawaii-21>^ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_ref-Hawaii_21-0) Falsifications and Facts about Aspartame (http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/FST-3.pdf) - An analysis of the origins of aspartame disinformation, by the University of Hawaii <LI id=cite_note-urbanlegends-22>^ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_ref-urbanlegends_22-0) Aspartame Warning (http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blasp.htm) About.com (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/About.com) - the Nancy Markle chain email. <LI id=cite_note-CritReview-23>^ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_ref-CritReview_23-0) Magnuson BA, Burdock GA, Doull J, et al (2007). "Aspartame: a safety evaluation based on current use levels, regulations, and toxicological and epidemiological studies". Crit. Rev. Toxicol. 37 (8): 629–727. doi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier):10.1080/10408440701516184 (http://dx.doi.org/10.1080%2F10408440701516184). PMID 17828671 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828671). <LI id=cite_note-GAO86-24>^ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_ref-GAO86_24-0) GAO 1986. "Six Former HHS Employees' Involvement in Aspartame's Approval." (http://archive.gao.gov/d4t4/130780.pdf) United States General Accounting Office, GAO/HRD-86-109BR, July 1986. <LI id=cite_note-Health_Canada-25>^ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_ref-Health_Canada_25-0) Health Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Canada): "Aspartame - Artificial Sweeteners" (http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/securit/addit/sweeten-edulcor/aspartame-eng.php). http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/securit/addit/sweeten-edulcor/aspartame-eng.php (http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/securit/addit/sweeten-edulcor/aspartame-eng.php). Retrieved on 2008-11-08. <LI id=cite_note-FSANZ-26>^ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspertame#cite_ref-FSANZ_26-0) Food Standards Australia New Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_Standards_Australia_New_Zealand): "Food Standards Australia New Zealand: Aspartame (September 2007)" (http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/newsroom/factsheets/factsheets2007/aspartameseptember203703.cfm). http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/newsroom/factsheets/factsheets2007/aspartameseptember203703.cfm (http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/newsroom/factsheets/factsheets2007/aspartameseptember203703.cfm). Retrieved on 2008-11-08.
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enrage
02-17-2009, 02:47 PM
http://www.dorway.com/rense.html

How Aspartame Became Legal-Timeline
http://www.rense.com/general33/legal.htm

Legend
02-17-2009, 02:50 PM
I am not a pilot. It inhibits thoughts. Yes, thoughts. After stopping their consumption I have better memory and train of thought.

This can happen if you have an allergic reaction when you ingest aspartame.


Or, if your born with phenylketonuria (PKU), a rare inherited disease that prevents phenylalanine from being properly metabolized.

Youngguns
02-17-2009, 02:54 PM
Legend, with the extreme rise in cancer throughout developed nations, I question the FDA. Actually, besides the fact 50% of men get cancer in their life time, I still question the FDA. After all, it's all corrupt. Never believe someone who tries to sell you something.

Youngguns
02-17-2009, 02:57 PM
FDA named "Fraud and Drug Administration" by consumer health advocacy group
http://www.naturalnews.com/002439.html

Legend
02-17-2009, 03:22 PM
Legend, with the extreme rise in cancer throughout developed nations, I question the FDA. Actually, besides the fact 50% of men get cancer in their life time, I still question the FDA. After all, it's all corrupt. Never believe someone who tries to sell you something.

I, of course question the FDA too.

Just about everything we eat or drink, drugs, products, etc must be approved by the FDA. Look how many times things had to pulled off the market because the FDA approved something they shouldn't have.

The point is,
How do you trust that the FDA approved meat that you are eating is accurately labeled? How do you trust that FDA approved NyQuil is any safer than the FDA approved aspirin?

How do you know that the newly FDA approved Truvia and PureVia (Stevia) is any safer than the FDA approved aspartame??

For every study against a product or supplement, there is a study that is for it....so, it's basically up to the consumer to decide.

Legend
02-17-2009, 03:27 PM
FDA named "Fraud and Drug Administration" by consumer health advocacy group
http://www.naturalnews.com/002439.html

The FDA is all we got....so we have to deal with them.

How about this, stop using any food, drug or product that the FDA has approved. Then, we'll see how long you survive.

Youngguns
02-17-2009, 03:41 PM
I, of course question the FDA too.

Just about everything we eat or drink, drugs, products, etc must be approved by the FDA. Look how many times things had to pulled off the market because the FDA approved something they shouldn't have.

The point is,
How do you trust that the FDA approved meat that you are eating is accurately labeled? How do you trust that FDA approved NyQuil is any safer than the FDA approved aspirin?

How do you know that the newly FDA approved Truvia and PureVia (Stevia) is any safer than the FDA approved aspartame??

For every study against a product or supplement, there is a study that is for it....so, it's basically up to the consumer to decide.
I live in Canada. Second, I buy as much food as possible from local farmers or grow it myself. If I can stay away from something like aspartame, I'm going to respect my body and do so.

The FDA is all we got....so we have to deal with them.

How about this, stop using any food, drug or product that the FDA has approved. Then, we'll see how long you survive.
Alright, let's see how long. I'm going to assume as long or longer than people who do eat it, and with less disease.

Anyways, I don't see why you're getting so defensive, are you part of the FDA?

Legend
02-17-2009, 10:14 PM
Alright, let's see how long. I'm going to assume as long or longer than people who do eat it, and with less disease.

You obviously didn't get the point, or didn't even read my post, after making a statement like this.

Anyways, I don't see why you're getting so defensive, are you part of the FDA? ....LOL @ this...I'm not getting defensive at all,....just trying to help

You go ahead and keep respecting your body, and I will enjoy a diet soda from time to time and still come back from my doc with perfect blood work results, and a perfect bill of health.

HARDCOREB
02-19-2009, 12:15 AM
I recall someone once stating that 400 diet soda's contain the same amount of formaldehyde as 1 single orange.

Youngguns
02-19-2009, 12:17 AM
I recall someone once stating that 400 diet soda's contain the same amount of formaldehyde as 1 single orange.
I ate 5 oranges last night :eek:

Frosty
02-19-2009, 12:34 AM
Are artificial sweeteners good for you? No.

Would I use them a bit for a diet? Yes.

Would I use them every day for the rest of my life? Absolutely not.

chucksm00th
02-19-2009, 09:53 AM
I recall someone once stating that 400 diet soda's contain the same amount of formaldehyde as 1 single orange.


Its actually 600 cans. Check up a couple posts..

B-DUB-
02-19-2009, 09:08 PM
Oh well, I'll stick to my stevia.........

Zetawill
02-20-2009, 07:45 PM
Splenda rocks, but thankfully stevia is getting in more products!

Aspartame causes me to have headaches....especially in that Nictar shizit.