View Full Version : Why Painless Pumps is better (and safer) than other Synthol brands!!!!
small G
03-13-2013, 01:16 AM
Found this after some internet surfing, fairly recent.
"Synthol Demolishes Muscle Tissue
Synthol is no longer a novelty. Some bodybuilders have been injecting themselves for years with a mixture of 85 percent MCT (http://www.google.com/custom?domains=ergo-log.com&q=MCT&sa=+search+&sitesearch=ergo-log.com&client=pub-7117181179885591&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&hl=en) oil, 7.5 percent lidocaine and 7.5 percent alcohol, targeting muscle groups they feel are not growing fast enough. Surgeons are now starting to notice the long-term effects of the Synthol rage: and they are not mild.
Synthol was concocted in the 1990s by the bodybuilding guru Chris Clarke. It's a 'site enhancement oil', consisting of fatty acids that accumulate in the muscle tissue where you inject the oil. As a result muscles grow at a fantastic rate. Bodybuilders like Greg Valentino developed an unnatural physique by using the substance – and became world famous. Peter Hiesinger followed his example – and became ill. On websites like syntholfreaks.com (http://syntholfreaks.com/) you can see the pics of adepts of Valentino and Hiesinger.
Doctors have already written about the dangers of bodybuilders injecting themselves with oil, [J Am Acad Dermatol. 2000 Feb;42(2 Pt 1):292-4.] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10642691) but more recently case studies have started to appear that describe the long-term effects on bodybuilders who injected themselves with Clarke’s brainchild years ago. Injected fat, the study has shown, causes inflammations that decimate muscles over time.
This happened for example to the 29-year-old bodybuilder that the surgeon Suleiman Ghandourah of University Hospital Marburg wrote about in the Journal of Medical Case Reports. Four years ago he started injecting Synthol into his biceps, but recently these muscles started to play up. They hurt so much that the man had to stop training, and in the end he was constantly in extreme pain.
The man's biceps not only looked strange, they felt strange too. It looked as though they had developed holes in them. When the doctors made an MRI scan of the man's right biceps – which was in worse condition - they saw that the muscle was now made up of separate parts. There was oil between the muscle fibres and the remaining muscle tissue was inflamed.
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The doctors decided to amputate the most seriously damaged part of the biceps, a piece measuring 11 x 5 x 5 cm. This helped. Six months later the bodybuilder asked the doctors to perform the same treatment on his other biceps.
Doctors at the Klinikum Rechts der Isar der Technischen Universitaet Munchen published a similar case study in October 2012 in the International Journal of Sports Medicine. [Int J Sports Med. 2012 Oct; 33(10): 829-34.] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22592548) A 40-year-old bodybuilder had been injecting himself with sesame oil for eight years. His arms had become so painful that he could no longer train. Doctors asked for an MRI scan and found over one hundred oil-filled cysts in the muscles spread throughout his body.
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The doctors operated on the man's arms [click on the link above at your own risk]. They discovered to their amazement that the man had almost no muscle tissue left in his arms. His arms were filled with pus and fat. The surgeons removed these, but when they did an MRI scan a year later they saw that hardly any muscle tissue had been restored. Three years after the operation the man was still suffering from pain – and could no longer train at all.
Each bodybuilder shown on syntholfreaks.com [syntholfreaks.com] (http://syntholfreaks.com/) is labelled as 'Another Synthol Victim'. It's an apt description.
Source:
J Med Case Rep. 2012 Aug 20;6(1):248. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22905749) [B]"
heres the origional link if you want: http://www.ergo-log.com/synthol-demolishes-muscle-tissue.html[B]
Now for the good bit: Painless Pumps does NOT contain MCT oil, Sesame oil, OR Lidocaine. (the 3 ingredients that cause the inflamation and degeneration of muscle tissue!!)
small G
03-13-2013, 03:36 AM
Found another similar article. this one is about sesame oil, but MCT oil and sesame oil are pretty similar (they are both cooking oils, which is what other synthol brands are.)
"Sesame oil injections cause fatty lumps in your pecs
One morning, in his upper chest area on the left-hand side, near his shoulder joint, the lifeguard discovered a couple of lumps. They were about a centimetre in diameter, but not painful. Well, only a little, when pressure was applied. The dermatologists at the Technische Universitaet Muenchen examined him and found there were more than a couple of these lumps – about ten of them in total, and on the right side of his chest too.
After further questioning the bodybuilder admitted that he'd been injecting sesame oil in his chest area for three months, in imitation of American bodybuilders. "It's normal there", claimed the bodybuilder. He'd bought a bottle at a pharmacy and injected a total of 1.5 litres of the oil into his pectoral muscles. He did so after every training session, injecting 20 ml each time.
The doctors inserted a needle into one of the lumps. It contained a white, oily fluid. It was surrounded by a layer of connective tissue that was calcified in places. When examined under the microscope it became clear that the connective tissue consisted of immune cells, which had emitted toxins that had killed the surrounding tissue. In this way the immune cells had encapsulated the oil. And the space around the capsules had filled up with fluid.
The oil apparently contained something that the immune system had recognised as a foreign body. The Germans did not investigate what this was.
The Germans called the lumps 'oleomas'. They were unable to find references to comparable swellings in the literature. There was a case of a steroids user who had injected himself with sesame oil containing nandrolone decanoate, and had developed a tumour-like growth in his buttock muscle – but this was not the same as what the lifeguard had. His lumps bore more resemblance to the oleomas that doctors have sometimes found in transsexuals.
These transsexuals had injected themselves with silicon and oil to make their figure more feminine. Sometimes injected fat moves around the body. Doctors have reported cases of silicon and fat being found in the scrotum of transsexuals after they had injected the substances into their hip area.
The Germans have no idea how many bodybuilders inject themselves with sesame oil, but they say it is extremely dangerous. They hope that their article will encourage sesame-oil using bodybuilders to seek other strategies.
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The Germans published their case study in 2000. A year later Danish doctors published a case study of a 26 year-old bodybuilder who had developed painful swellings after injecting himself with walnut oil for a few months. [Ugeskr Laeger. 2001 Nov 26;163(48):6758.] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11768903). Other Danish doctors wrote an article in 2010 about a bodybuilder who had injected a litre of paraffin oil into each arm. [Ugeskr Laeger. 2010 Jan 18;172(3):219-20.] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20089216)
Source:
J Am Acad Dermatol. 2000 Feb;42(2 Pt 1):292-4. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10642691)"
same website as the other one: http://www.ergo-log.com/sesameoil.html
so the truth about synthol is finally coming out. Painless Pumps does not contain cooking oils (MCT oil, sesame oil) or illegal substances ( Lidocaine) that will FUCK YOU UP!!! Painless Pumps is a synthetic copy of your synovial fluid (the lubricant you body produces to keep your joints moving smoothly). Think about it... go and have a look at the ingredients that the current #1 synthol brand contains (the first 4 ingredients have the word acid in it, ACID!!! and your going to inject it???!!! FUCK THAT SHIT!!!), and think about how it is going to affect your muscles in the future after reading these 2 articles.:yep:
rippedman1
03-15-2013, 08:30 PM
Good info! A buddy of mine had a scary reaction to a different product that he used on his biceps. Ended up having a tumor cut out of his bicep. I think that the product was synthetek or something like that. He was using a protocol from a guy called Big Al who is a troll for the company. He tells his customers to shoot 25ccs a day into there muscles so they have to buy more of that junk so he can pay his rent for the month. after seeing what he went through I wouldn't touch synthtek at all.
small G
03-15-2013, 11:54 PM
Good info! A buddy of mine had a scary reaction to a different product that he used on his biceps. Ended up having a tumor cut out of his bicep. I think that the product was synthetek or something like that. He was using a protocol from a guy called Big Al who is a troll for the company. He tells his customers to shoot 25ccs a day into there muscles so they have to buy more of that junk so he can pay his rent for the month. after seeing what he went through I wouldn't touch synthtek at all.
synthetek is no different to injecting MCT oil you buy from the grocery store. And everyone who uses it alot will have the same problems as the guy in that first article. go and look at the first 4 ingredients listed on their site for their synthol, the first 4 ingredients contain the word ACID in it, only a matter of time before that acid eats at their muscle fibers. Painless Pumps is much safer, and you'll get the same if not better results than syntheteks synthol.
benzoj
03-20-2013, 09:51 PM
Does PP contain carrageenan which was in a slick sheen another posing oil that is water based. Just curious. Thanks
small G
03-21-2013, 07:27 PM
Does PP contain carrageenan which was in a slick sheen another posing oil that is water based. Just curious. Thanks
yes it contains sulfated polysaccharides (carrageenan, i think its also called). Ingested orally, they have little health benefits, but injected they have powerful immune boosting properties. Go and google sulfated polysaccharides and you will see heaps of articles about how they inhibit various viruses, just google it and you will be very pleased. here is a quick study i pulled up, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9352294
benzoj
03-21-2013, 07:39 PM
Thanks for the info! Ive read up on it extensively and it works well. A lot of pros use it. g2g
BlueJayMuscle
03-22-2013, 11:39 AM
Difference between gen1 and gen2?? Thanks in advance
small G
03-22-2013, 07:45 PM
Difference between gen1 and gen2?? Thanks in advance
from their website
"what is the difference between the origional PP formula and gen2?
gen 2 contains sulfated polysaccharides which boosts your immune system and fights toxins from other products you may be using. it also contains glycoprotiens which bond to your muscle tissue and promote protein synthesis, leaving you with real muscle. gen2 is also being used by doctors for joint rejuvenation therapy and treatment for arthritis."
small G
06-08-2013, 08:13 PM
I know that a lot of people aren't a big fan of the GH15 website, regardless, there are alot of knowledgeable members there who tell the truth. Well, Painless Pumps has been a bit of a rage over there lately, quite a few members talking about their great results with Painless Pumps. And a lot of people are referring to synthol AS Painless Pumps (for example: "I wonder what [insert bodybuilder's name here]'s Painless Pumps cycle looks like" or " I wonder how much Painless Pumps he uses"). And alot of members asking about what cycle for painless pumps to follow. It really says something about a product if it is doing the rounds at GH15! (ESPECIALLY a synthol product, as GH15 members has previously frowned upon synthol products and users. so that really says something)
another reason Painless Pumps is better than other synthol brands!!
Painless Pumps is definitely a game changer. !:yep:
I have nEver used synthol, but being someone who has never 'rubbed on anything, (now I'm now a regular painless p user) says something!
the GUNSHOW
06-14-2013, 10:40 PM
link to GH15? i dont know why but I cant find it
small G
06-15-2013, 01:40 AM
link to GH15? i dont know why but I cant find it
www.gh15.org (http://www.gh15.org)
you have to register and be approved before you can view anything. (and as far as i remember, he takes ages to approve you)
I will find some of the quoats and post them here.
az2ss
06-20-2013, 08:11 PM
I would probably buy from painless pumps, however they don't respond to emails.
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aerox
06-22-2013, 11:15 AM
Email me or call me 860-575-7148.
[email protected]
Are you sure you emailed me or a distributor?
Thanks,
Steve
Owner and Creator
az2ss
06-22-2013, 12:55 PM
Email me or call me 860-575-7148.
[email protected]
Are you sure you emailed me or a distributor?
Thanks,
Steve
Owner and Creator
I sent the email to
[email protected]. Ill send again.
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small G
06-24-2013, 10:47 PM
OK sorry I got to this abit late (busy as hell). So here are the various quotes taken from gh15 in regards to painless pumps:
"Sorry, lol.
yes, Painlesspumps is a very good product. A couple of people here use it and have talked about it (member paynester is one I believe)." - Lean82
"It is truly painless
I'm currently using eskiclen
While I order more painless pumps
And the soreness eskiclen gives is annoying
Painless pumps gives basically no PIP
I'm in the matinence phase right now
Monday , Wednesday and Friday
I inject
Biceps with 1 cc oil each day
And triceps get 2 cc oil
Sometimes I mix my aas with it but Jesus Christ that is painful
The gains have stayed. Besides reductions from swelling caused by every day shots
The muscular hardness has stayed
I was talking on the phone yesterday and my bicep was getting tight and burning just from holding my phone to my ear..
I've noticed pumps come quite quickly in the gym
2 sets and your arms are pumped
I sit here typing this and supinate my wrist like a curl and my biceps get super tight
Just like the old member who ran painless pumps
He said they feel pumped all the time
Painless pumps is the best I've used
Though its only 2 products
The PIP is severely reduced on painless pumps
Just massage them daily or shoot before the gym and do a few light sets before you begin your main workout" - PaynESTER
"You can use more, safely, and see greater effects. I buy 5cc vials to put on my puns fr all body parts" - e.pp
"I love this shit ...
I have used my first 100ml and probs 20ml into my second bottle of it.
3ml everyday in rear tricep head 1.5ml in each lateral tricep head for two week has put a solid inch on my arms now will up quantity of oil and try doing more bicep shots too, also pin some in my rear delt shots twice a week and see how that goes.
Muscles are hard and vascular great shape no blurring of lines at all
And completely painless !!!!!!!! Can pin 3ml in tri w 23g and smooth shot next day cannot feel the tiny little bit of pip just massive pump and a tight swole kind of expanded feel to muscle belly.
Need to smash my rear delts and tris with this shit gives me a total 3d look" - Mr flat
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[origional quote by KGLWBaby]I don't get it, if he's running that much Synthol then why doesn't he look like the fat bloated Egyptian or Valentino?
He still has separation and vascularity, which neither of the other heavy abusers typically show.. [end quote]
its all about using it in moderation and correctly. painless pumps isnt like Synthol, its really natural looking and safe" - e.pp
"Haha, yes, helpful thread! I use painless pumps in all areas (especially gluets) Doesn't really matter exact location (always aspirate!!!) and make sure its deep enough. With the pump its litterally: Put it where you think it will look good. JUST STICK IT IN!! http://gh15.org/forum/Smileys/testing/cheesy.gif
Also= no soreness , ive used 22g on glutes and 25 on chest . as long as its sharp!!" - e.pp
"Painless pumps is very good product
Wish we could get them aboard
It's human oil not mct" - PaynESTER
"
[ origional quote by PaynESTER]Painless pumps is very good product
Wish we could get them aboard
It's human oil not mct [end quote]
I've heard that too.
Isn't that the one that kid took who looked insane?
Think he posted an SEO protocol on here and was very honest about its use" - Thrashunreal
" [origional quote by Thrashunreal]I've heard that too.
Isn't that the one that kid took who looked insane?
Think he posted an SEO protocol on here and was very honest about its use [end quote]
yes it doesnt destory the muscle
its synovial fluid that is created in the bursa sacks
he used it , im currently on 3 cc
i started with esikclen
and the soreness was almost unbearable
switched to painless pumps
feels like i injected nothing into the muscle" - PaynESTER
"your waist looks good man looks very strong functional thick in a good way, ballerina waist looks silly anyway, im all for synthol in arms and delts , get some painless pumps and start using that stuff in delts tris bis rear delts and watch your look change....." - Mr flat
"Did 1ml [of painless pumps] in both heads 1 day.. 3 days later did .75 ml in each head. Already full, super veiny for some reason as well. Going to do .75ml in each head again. Then will do it just 2x a week...." - Chemically Engineered
"I was always extremely nervous as well. But in fact it is very simple. Always make sure you know the seperate heads of bicep. Outter and inner. Stay clear of veins and make sure you shoot deep enough. Flex the bicep, place pin where you want and slowly relax and push pin in. Aspirate always and slowly inject. You want to go to mid way of head and slightly to the side if that makes sense. Its honestly very painless. Just a bit nerve racking first few times." - Chemically Engineered
"Just to give an update... I did .75cc in each head 3-4x a week for 2 weeks. The difference is INCREDIBLE!!! Very natural looking, round, more vascular and full. Totally recommend the painless pumps if you are looking for a safe seo." - Chemically Engineered
"You can p.m me np... My starting arm size was 18.5 cold... Now its about 19"cold... Was looking to improve overall fullness and shape. It looks VERY natural. Now im just doing 1cc each head 1-2x a week to maintain for now. No pics sorry guys." - Chemically Engineered
Note: the member PaynESTER is a 'WIZARD' with 2380 Posts (currently). A very respected Member there.
And Chemically Engineered is a 'WIZARD with 242 Posts (currently). Also a respected member.
that is the ones I could find ust doing a bit of surfing. Those are the origional quotes and weren't changed in any way (although the ones with '....' at the end were just cut short)
small G
06-24-2013, 10:53 PM
^^^ also the member Lean82 is a moderator.
TonyElTigre
06-24-2013, 10:59 PM
I had a friend that experienced this same problem with his injections. I think that its really a problem in the bodybuilding community and needs to be watched closely. I really think this stuff should be taken off the market. Too many costly side effects associated with it.
small G
06-24-2013, 11:06 PM
betcha it wasn't painless pumps. Hopefully he is ok, but this is just another example of MCT oil based synthol's dangerous side effects. Fortunately Painless pumps contains synthetic synovial fluid that is present in all of our joints!
Shredzs
10-24-2017, 07:39 AM
Email me or call me 860-575-7148.
[email protected]
Are you sure you emailed me or a distributor?
Thanks,
Steve
Owner and Creator
@aerox
I emailed you and tried to call, number no longer in service
@aerox
I emailed you and tried to call, number no longer in service
I doubt he will show up on a 4yr old thread to reply as well.
PainlessPumpsllc
12-07-2018, 10:27 AM
Hello Rxmuscle members, my name is Jonathan and I am the new Sales and Marketing Director of Painless Pumps LLC. For too long you guys have had questions, ideas, concerns, and complaints which have been not been properly addressed, or addressed at all. With the addition of Painless Pumps PLATINUM, added to our very successful line of Generation II and III, I will be frequenting this forum for anyone to ask me questions, address concerns, or inform me of any issues. I will say that for one thing immediately, we have NEVER be contacted by a customer with complaints of any type pain or side effects. It was designed to be painless, hence our name...
We sincerely apologize it has taken so long to get back here and be available for your questions and concerns. But, we are BACK and ready to help in any way we can!!!! Please ask questions and by all means tell me some experiences with either product. We’d love to hear from current customers whom are seeing great results which are transferring over to the gym and not only increasing your size visually, but gains in strength.
We’re excited to be back here and I look forward to hearing your opinions, success stories, and especially your ideas on how we can improve our products even more.
Sincerely,
Jonathan W.
Painless Pumps LLC.
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