Comparing today's Physique competitors to bodybuilders of the 80's and 90's...

[Wolf fan]

I was wondering, since according to Chris Aceto and Dave Palumbo who said that the dosages of steroids of today's pro bodybuilders is WAY higher than that used by the pros in the '80's and '90's, is it safe to say then that the dosages of today's Men's Physique competitors is similar to bodybuilders of the '80's and early '90's? Because there are some if not many physique competitors who are bigger than Frank Zane.

Also, are any men's phyisque competitors using HGH? I was wondering because Lee Priest said he only tried HGH once in '96 and it did nothing for him.

[Wolf fan]

This was posted over at MD so I'll copy and paste it here...


"If you think the world of bodybuilding has gone crazy this will only add to it. After an entry level show I spoke to a competitor in the tall MPD class. He was in great shape an weighed nearly 200 lbs t 5'10". He complained of a myriad of symptoms and we got around to discussing PEDs. Young guy, fresh muscle, good shape, decent size.
What was he taking?
1200 mg tren enenthate
600 mg tren ace
600 mg deca
500 mg NPP
600 mg test cyp
500 mg prop
T3
letro
arimadex
and started aldactone 2 weeks out - all advised by his well known well paid trainer
Of course I told him this was outlandish and you guessed it - he also follows our friend Bostin closely.
If you need that much gear to compete in your first show you are in the wrong sport and the trainer.....no comment necessary. The redundancy also surprised me."

[toxic Avenger]

I think it runs the gambit. some people respond like crazy and have to use much much less. Some don't and add a lot. I've seen both ends of the spectrum many times. Guys that need 4 grams a week to do a show should probably find another set of goals.

[Wolf fan]

I think it runs the gambit. some people respond like crazy and have to use much much less. Some don't and add a lot. I've seen both ends of the spectrum many times. Guys that need 4 grams a week to do a show should probably find another set of goals.

Does UGL vs pharma grade drugs matter too? Do all competitors use UGL's or pharma grade drugs or are they exactly the same potency for potency?

[KTTraining]

This was posted over at MD so I'll copy and paste it here...


If someone is using doses and drugs anywhere near this , and yet , still only 200 lbs at 5'10 " they should pass on bodybuilding ..either they train like pansies or they simply were not cut out for it .

Yes , many guys used a lot during the 80's , but typically nothing even close to those doses . Consider this , when EQ first began circulating in gyms ( i was working in a popular BB gym ) it was available in 25 and 50 mg / cc bottles and a guy typically used 1 or 2 cc 2 or 3 times a week . Today it is 200 mg/ cc ? and guys use several cc a week . When it came to drugs like parabolan or Finajet it was typically the same ..parabolan maybe 76 mg ( 1 vial ) a couple times a week to 3 times / wk ...finajet even less .

Of course there were the guys going way overboard , however .

[Wolf fan]

If someone is using doses and drugs anywhere near this , and yet , still only 200 lbs at 5'10 " they should pass on bodybuilding ..either they train like pansies or they simply were not cut out for it .

Yes , many guys used a lot during the 80's , but typically nothing even close to those doses . Consider this , when EQ first began circulating in gyms ( i was working in a popular BB gym ) it was available in 25 and 50 mg / cc bottles and a guy typically used 1 or 2 cc 2 or 3 times a week . Today it is 200 mg/ cc ? and guys use several cc a week . When it came to drugs like parabolan or Finajet it was typically the same ..parabolan maybe 76 mg ( 1 vial ) a couple times a week to 3 times / wk ...finajet even less .

Of course there were the guys going way overboard , however .

Could it be because drugs today are less potent than they were in the '80's and '90's and people feel the need to use higher doses to get the same results sort of like with primobolan?