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csnut18
07-29-2009, 08:03 PM
When will this product be available at stores like bodybuilding.com and ironflexsupplements?

reformathard
07-29-2009, 11:18 PM
i dont think its even on their website yet, so id say not for another few months if bb.com just got mac nut oil.

JohnBoy
08-06-2009, 12:03 PM
I heard something about August from Sean Andros in another thread, any updates on this? I've been eagerly waiting on this for a while now...

crashcrew56
08-09-2009, 07:43 PM
Can we get an update on crealyze?

Arthur Early
08-10-2009, 11:38 AM
some time next week!!!!

JohnBoy
08-11-2009, 11:00 AM
some time next week!!!!


your source?

Arthur Early
08-12-2009, 10:54 AM
palumbo!!

crashcrew56
08-12-2009, 08:45 PM
Can we get more information about crealyze?

Arthur Early
08-13-2009, 10:26 AM
Can we get more information about crealyze?


from what i understand it is a liquid creatine(i could be wrong)

sifferman
08-13-2009, 12:51 PM
I heard that somewhere too. I beleive it was on Dave's Q&A.

robofsteel
08-25-2009, 03:00 PM
Crealyze, I was just told should be in our warehouse the week of Sept.8th. Ready to ship right after that. I will post an update as I get them. Thanks!

mts
08-26-2009, 09:00 PM
here's the label, I hope it's ok to upload it. If not just delete it. Please don't repost this link.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/mts198/crealyze.jpg

reformathard
08-26-2009, 09:41 PM
:yep::yep::yep:

zubbeyboy
08-26-2009, 10:12 PM
Sweeet!!!

Carson
09-02-2009, 04:27 PM
patent info

Claims


What is claimed is:

1. A process of producing a creatine acid sulfate solution comprising the steps of

forming an aqueous solution of sulfuric acid; and

combining creatine monohydrate with said sulfuric acid solution to form a creatine acid sulfate reaction product having a pH of about 2-3, and thereafter immediately diluting and neutralizing said reaction product to avoid the formation of creatinine to form an aqueous solution of creatine acid sulfate.

2. The process of claim 1, wherein said creatine monohydrate is added in a stoichiometric amount to said sulfuric acid solution to produce said creatine acid sulfate substantially in the absence of creatinine.

3. The process of claim 1, wherein said creatine monohydrate is combined with said sulfuric acid in an amount to provide a creatine monohydrate to sulfuric acid in a molar ratio of about 2.0:1.0.

4. The process of claim 2, wherein said resulting creatine acid sulfate in aqueous solution has a pH of less than about 7.8.

5. The process of claim 2, wherein said aqueous solution of creatine acid sulfate has a pH of about 7.2 to about 7.8.

6. The process of claim 1, wherein said aqueous solution of sulfuric acid has a sulfuric acid concentration of about 31% to about 35% by weight.



7. The process of claim 1, further comprising the step of adding a buffering and neutralizing agent to said aqueous creatine acid sulfate solution.

8. The process of claim 7, wherein said buffering and neutralizing agent is tribasic potassium phosphate.

9. The process of claim 7, wherein said buffering and neutralizing agent is a tribasic potassium phosphate solution having a pH of about 12.0.

10. A stable creatine acid sulfate solution comprising an aqueous solution of creatine acid sulfate and a buffering and neutralizing agent, wherein said solution has a pH of less than about 7.8.

11. The creatine acid sulfate solution of claim 10, wherein said buffering and neutralizing agent is tribasic potassium phosphate.

12. The creatine acid sulfate solution of claim 11, wherein said creatine acid sulfate solution has a pH of about 7.2 to about 7.8.

13. The creatine acid sulfate solution of claim 11, further comprising potassium hydroxide in an amount to adjust the pH of said solution to about 7.2 to about 7.8.

14. The creatine acid sulfate solution of claim 10, wherein said creatine acid sulfate is produced by the process of

forming an aqueous solution containing about 31% to about 35% by weight sulfuric acid, and

adding a creatine source to said solution in an amount with respect to said sulfuric acid to produce a substantially pure creatine acid sulfate at a pH of about 2-3, and immediately thereafter diluting and neutralizing said solution to inhibit the formation of creatinine and to form an aqueous solution of creatine acid sulfate.

15. The creatine acid sulfate solution of claim 14, wherein said creatine source is creatine monohydrate.

16. The creatine acid sulfate solution of claim 12, wherein said creatine source is added to said sulfuric acid solution in an amount to provide a creatine to sulfuric acid in a molar ratio of about 2.0:1.0.

17. An aqueous composition for providing a source of creatine to an animal, said composition comprising

an aqueous solution of creatine acid sulfate, and

a buffering and neutralizing agent, wherein said composition has a pH of less than about 7.8, is substantially free of creatinine, and is stable at room temperature for at least about 6 months.

18. The composition of claim 17, wherein said composition has a pH of about 7.2 to about 7.8.

19. The composition of claim 17, wherein said buffering and neutralizing agent comprises tribasic potassium phosphate.

20. The composition of claim 17, further comprising glycerol in an amount to provide an osmotic carrier for absorption of creatine through the intestinal wall and into the bloodstream.

21. The composition of claim 17, further comprising a sweetener.

22. The composition of claim 21, wherein said sweetener is sorbitol.

23. The composition of claim 17, comprising the equivalent of about 1.37 to 2.06% creatine acid sulfate, 1.0 to about 2.0% tribasic potassium phosphate, 8.0 to 10.0% glycerol, 15% to 20% sorbitol, 0.1% sodium benzoate and the balance water, wherein said percentages are by weight.

24. The composition of claim 17, further comprising at least one compound selected from the group consisting of pyruvic acid, pyruvate salts, and mixtures thereof.

25. The composition of claim 17, further comprising at least one compound selected from the group consisting of glycine, arginine, methionine, and mixtures thereof.

26. A process for increasing the amount of creatine in the bloodstream of an animal, comprising the steps of

preparing creatine acid sulfate, diluting said creatine acid sulfate to form an aqueous solution, and adding buffering and neutralizing agents, wherein said solution contains about 1.37% to about 2.06% by weight creatine acid sulfate and has a pH of about 7.2 to about 7.8, and

administering said solution orally to an animal in an amount to supply a predetermined amount of creatine to said animal.

27. The process of claim 26, wherein said aqueous solution is substantially free of creatinine and is stable at room temperature for at least about 6 months.

28. The process of claim 26, wherein said buffering agent is tribasic potassium phosphate.

29. The process of claim 26, wherein said tribasic potassium phosphate is added in an effective amount to provide a source of phosphate loading.

30. The process of claim 26, wherein said creatine acid sulfate is prepared by forming an aqueous solution containing about 31% to about 35% by weight sulfuric acid and adding a creatine source in a stoichiometric amount to said solution having a pH of about 2-3, and immediately thereafter diluting with water and neutralizing the solution.

31. The process of claim 30, wherein said creatine source is creatine monohydrate.

32. The process of claim 26, wherein said aqueous solution further comprises at least one compound selected from the group consisting of pyruvic acid, pyruvate salts, and mixtures thereof.

33. The process of claim 26, wherein said aqueous solution further comprises at least one compound selected from the group consisting of glycine, arginine and methionine, and mixtures thereof.

34. The process of claim 26, wherein said aqueous solution further comprises about 8.0% to about 10.0% by weight glycerol.

35. A process of producing a creatine acid sulfate solution comprising the steps of

forming an aqueous solution of sulfuric acid; and

combining creatine monohydrate with said sulfuric acid solution in a molar ratio of about 2.0:1.0 to form a creatine acid sulfate reaction product having a pH of about 2-3, and thereafter immediately diluting and neutralizing said reaction product to avoid the formation of creatinine and to form an aqueous solution of creatine acid sulfate having a pH of less than about 7.8.

36. The process of claim 35, wherein said aqueous solution of sulfuric acid has a sulfuric acid concentration of about 31% to about 35% by weight.

37. The process of claim 35, further comprising the step of adding a tribasic potassium phosphate buffering and neutralizing agent to said aqueous creatine acid sulfate solution.

38. The process of claim 10, wherein said composition is produced by the steps of

combining creatine monohydrate with an aqueous sulfuric acid solution in a creatine monohydrate to sulfuric acid molar ratio of about 2.0:1.0 to form a creatine acid sulfate reaction product having a pH of about 2-3, and thereafter immediately diluting and neutralizing said reaction product with tribasic potassium phosphate to avoid the formation of creatinine to form an aqueous solution of creatine acid sulfate.

DannyAbs
09-12-2009, 05:39 PM
Did crealyze make it to the warehouse last week? I can't wait to order some.

zubbeyboy
09-12-2009, 06:03 PM
Will there be some at the O Expo?

robofsteel
09-16-2009, 10:09 AM
Crealyze has not made it to the warehouse yet. Species will not have a booth at the "O". We are just waiting for the bottle caps to get in. There was an issue with the bottle tops. When I have more info I will post it. Sorry guys, I know everyone has been waiting for this product for a while now.

ShreddedRx
09-17-2009, 10:05 AM
Comon rob, we're trying to get this stuff on our shelves, hurry up! lol

:)

robofsteel
09-17-2009, 01:57 PM
Im trying guys I really am. You better order it by the case since you are pushing me so hard! LMAO!!!!

ShreddedRx
09-17-2009, 02:05 PM
What you don't like carrying big heavy boxes to our store every few days? I thought you did, my bad.. hah maybe we'll havta start ordering by the case then!

JohnBoy
09-29-2009, 10:03 AM
Im trying guys I really am. You better order it by the case since you are pushing me so hard! LMAO!!!!

I've never used a creatine before, I've been waiting on this stuff because it sounds amazing. You better believe I'm gonna buy at least 5 bottles of the stuff if it's as good as it's sounding.

BILLY GUNS
09-29-2009, 11:55 AM
Im trying guys I really am. You better order it by the case since you are pushing me so hard! LMAO!!!!

I will LMAO if you make Joel deliver it one bottle at a time to them :yep:

robofsteel
09-29-2009, 12:44 PM
I just found out crealyze should be here in the warehouse next week sometime. Don't hold me to that. LOL. I will let everyone know when we have it!

BILLY GUNS
09-29-2009, 01:07 PM
I just found out crealyze should be here in the warehouse next week sometime. Don't hold me to that. LOL. I will let everyone know when we have it!

I'm pitching a tent next to nicoles desk to make sure I get the first shipment:yep:

robofsteel
09-29-2009, 01:11 PM
Maybe you will be able to do 335 after you stay on Crealyze for a month or so! You can sleep in the warehouse if you want.

BILLY GUNS
09-29-2009, 02:06 PM
Maybe you will be able to do 335 after you stay on Crealyze for a month or so! You can sleep in the warehouse if you want.

LMAO you wont have to wait a month...maybe 3 more days:yep:

robofsteel
10-01-2009, 09:27 AM
Thats great Billy! How much are you weighing these days? Crealyze is on its way so Ive been told!!!!

Pierce88
10-05-2009, 03:43 PM
any idea of what the serving is gonna be like in the package? like am i going to be able to get a month out of one purchase or are these individ bottles?

Pierce88
10-05-2009, 03:44 PM
Cuz i am ready to start adding in creatine and i'm debating whither to use ALR's cr2 or just wait cuz you guys have got me all antsy about this stuff

Pierce88
10-05-2009, 03:46 PM
oh wait my bad i read the label up there my bad..sounds cool tho

Arthur Early
10-12-2009, 06:48 PM
any updates

robofsteel
10-13-2009, 09:04 AM
No new updates sorry! As soon as I see it in the warehouse I will let everyone know.

yellanelly
10-13-2009, 09:56 PM
wow cant wait to try this!

robofsteel
10-23-2009, 10:31 AM
Crealyze should be ready to ship next week(Oct.27th-28th). I was just given this update. Look for it!!!!

gresh
10-25-2009, 02:49 PM
Crealyze is up on the Species website, I take that its now in stock and ready to ship out?

reformathard
10-25-2009, 06:23 PM
ahh very cool!

robofsteel
10-25-2009, 09:18 PM
It arrived late Friday afternoon! It looks awesome. READY TO SHIP! Order it now!

JohnBoy
10-26-2009, 11:08 AM
8 bucks for shipping wtf...

robofsteel
10-26-2009, 01:49 PM
The product is 32ozs of liguid. Which ways 3lbs. Shipping isnt cheap for a liquid! We pay to get it shipped to our warehouse. Sorry John Boy.

fatbackgoal
10-29-2009, 06:32 PM
Price and cheap either but may have to give it a run for a month.

TheTransformator
10-29-2009, 06:40 PM
Any label info...?

big.poppa.pump
10-29-2009, 07:19 PM
1oz serving, 32oz per bottle. 3g's of creatine per serving according to the pj braun video. Ultra expensive

robofsteel
10-29-2009, 11:09 PM
check your local supplement store for it. Also, a few websites should have it up in about a week! The price wont be too bad.

Hungarian_Oak
10-30-2009, 04:33 PM
When will this be available on the Species.ca website?

robofsteel
10-30-2009, 10:30 PM
Species Canada placed an order for it so it depends on customs. Sorry I cant give you a better answer.

Arthur Early
11-01-2009, 11:16 PM
Just picked up my first bottle looking forward to starting this creatine!!

Rdosramos
11-10-2009, 06:58 AM
Hi Guys

Can't wait to try the new product. I just wanted to find out if there is a major diffrenace between the likes of kre alkalyn and Crealyze?

Regards,

Rob
South Africa

robofsteel
11-10-2009, 10:31 AM
Crealyze is creatine monohydrate. Its also the only stable and bioavailable liquid creatime monohydrate!

huge285
11-11-2009, 10:58 PM
CREALYZE:

http://speciesnutrition.com/order/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=78

G-Roy
11-13-2009, 04:22 PM
I'll be buying this because of DA's endorsement: "all you retards buy it because youre fucking skinny and youre fucking pathetic." Thats beats the hell out of muscletechs advertising.

SwolenONE
11-14-2009, 06:03 PM
I'll be buying this because of DA's endorsement: "all you retards buy it because youre fucking skinny and youre fucking pathetic." Thats beats the hell out of muscletechs advertising.

lmao, yea i heard that one on the radio show and cracked up

for real though, ive seen this product for around 30 bucks and it has more potential than other liquid creatines i have seen

JohnBoy
11-16-2009, 01:05 AM
Today is the second day and now I can deadlift 400lbs heavier and run 20 mph faster. Hell, you should have seen me throw my neighbor into the sun earlier today.

Knuckles
11-16-2009, 09:43 AM
Today is the second day and now I can deadlift 400lbs heavier and run 20 mph faster. Hell, you should have seen me throw my neighbor into the sun earlier today.


Holy shit! That's called creatine rage. Yep, I heard about it on the news. Apparently muslims love the stuff.

On a serious note, I ordered some myself and am looking forward to trying it. And if my neighbor gets thrown into the sun so be it.

hulkish808
11-16-2009, 02:35 PM
dpsnutrition.com has crealyze available

Cogrick2
11-16-2009, 09:43 PM
I thought I read that creatine reaches a certain level in the muscle and then remains of that quantity if the dosage consumed remains the same. In fact, creatine stays high, as I recall, for a number of weeks after cessation of consumption.

So, consider a 3-month period with 3-5 grams/day of micronized power creatine monohydrate. Why would this be inferior to using Crealyze?

robofsteel
11-17-2009, 09:52 AM
Micronized creatine is still only 35% bioavailable. So why wouldnt you want to use a product that is 100% stable and bioavailable(Crealyze is 100% stable and bioavailable)?

JG1
11-17-2009, 09:56 AM
Micronized creatine is still only 35% bioavailable. So why wouldnt you want to use a product that is 100% stable and bioavailable(Crealyze is 100% stable and bioavailable)?

Where are you getting this 35% figure? Dave???


Even if you have to use 3x the amount of CMH, it's still 1.12 per serving (crealyze) vrs .18 per serving (micronized cmh)

robofsteel
11-17-2009, 10:18 AM
Yes, from Dave.

TheTransformator
11-17-2009, 10:21 AM
Where are you getting this 35% figure? Dave???


Even if you have to use 3x the amount of CMH, it's still 1.12 per serving (crealyze) vrs .18 per serving (micronized cmh)

All you ever need to know about creatine is in the link below:

http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/53/2/161.long (http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/53/2/161.long)

I still think Dave's product is one of convenience...not so much budget orientated...

Maybe Species should send you a bottle JG1 to see what you think of it compared to normal CM...?

JG1
11-17-2009, 10:49 AM
Yes, from Dave.

Please tell Dave to post here where he got that 35% figure.

DannyG
11-18-2009, 12:34 AM
I just ordered me some from prosource and i'm sure Dave's product wont disappoint.

Knuckles
11-21-2009, 12:17 PM
This stuff is amazing. Sounds cheesey to say, but I just feel better taking a product that I know is higher quality. Mixes clear, and tastes great. Gotta try this creatine if you haven't yet.

1-ad
12-28-2009, 04:43 PM
I've always liked Dave Palumbo, I value all his contributions to this world and so on, I can't help but wish him well with his Species products. But is this a 'new creatine' ? And do you guys really think yet another 'new creatine' will do anything different to the 'old creatine' ? ;)

BK76
01-13-2010, 03:08 PM
I'm new to the forum, but i wanted to add my two cents.
I've been using Crealyze for a few days now. I'm one of those unlucky bastards that suffered stomach problems, and whole other mess of issues with powdered creatine in the past. I started using Crealyze upon recommendation from a sponsored Species athlete who i trust. This is the best creatine product i've ever used - for me. again, as someone who couldnt use other products out there, its working miracles for me.

Great energy through out all my workouts, good long lasting pump well after the workout and feel full slightly pumped all day.

saiyajinali
01-13-2010, 05:43 PM
I really like this product too...

I like that it has glycerol in the formula. I doubled up on my dose (2oz) yesterday because I missed a carb meal before training, & the pump I got during my workout was intense.

A pretty massive pump for 6grams of Creatine..

trap
02-08-2010, 07:40 PM
Is it way better then any mono or stack out there?
I ask couse it will cost much for me to order it from US to Poland.

Jaredmus
02-09-2010, 09:56 AM
i know its prob been asked is it better to take this pre or post workout?

robofsteel
02-09-2010, 10:55 AM
i know its prob been asked is it better to take this pre or post workout?
Pre-workout! About 1 hour before. Mix one ounce in 10ozs of water.