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IanMazia
02-20-2009, 05:20 PM
I'm curious to know what your guys thoughts are as to running orals longer than the traditional four weeks? The longest I've ever run an oral was for six weeks - and that was 35mg of Dbol a day - at the end, my liver values were elevated, but not significantly more than when I ran it for four weeks.

BigChris
02-20-2009, 06:21 PM
If u r using good liver protection you can take orals as long as they're working well ;) I think optimal lenght for orals depends on what are you taking: oxymetholone - 4, max 5 weeks (it sattigens receeptors very fast and very srong), oral winstrol 6-8 weeks, dianabol even up to 20 weeks (when dosage is about 10mg ed) but most people are using it in dosage 15-30 mg ed for 5-6 weeks and I think this is the most reasonable way.

Mr. Shoulders
02-21-2009, 08:25 AM
6-8 weeks for me on all orals

BigChris
02-21-2009, 02:52 PM
even for anapolon ?

NPCKnight
02-21-2009, 09:35 PM
6-8 sometimes 10 weeks should be alright if you have a healthy liver and do not drink. liver protectants taken WITH orals are widely believed to interfere with the orals ability to work to the fullest.

id wait til after my run of orals is over before i ran liv52 or tylers.

BarbellBeast
02-21-2009, 10:37 PM
6-8 sometimes 10 weeks should be alright if you have a healthy liver and do not drink. liver protectants taken WITH orals are widely believed to interfere with the orals ability to work to the fullest.

id wait til after my run of orals is over before i ran liv52 or tylers.

take your liver care and your roid at least 4 hours apart and it shouldn't be a problem.

Mr. Shoulders
02-22-2009, 10:26 AM
even for anapolon ?
Yep...I have run them for 12 weeks before with no problems

BigChris
02-22-2009, 10:47 AM
and how about effects? how did you feel it after 5th week? gains were the same all the time?

Simon M
02-22-2009, 11:05 AM
For max gains and minimum sides 4-6 weeks max for orals is a good rule of thumb.

BigJD69
02-22-2009, 12:19 PM
no more than 8 weeks

Pantera
02-22-2009, 01:21 PM
6-8 sometimes 10 weeks should be alright if you have a healthy liver and do not drink. liver protectants taken WITH orals are widely believed to interfere with the orals ability to work to the fullest.

id wait til after my run of orals is over before i ran liv52 or tylers.

I'd do before and after.The liver regenerates itself unless it has been pushed too far which takes a whole freakin lot!

Milk thistle is believed to be useless!There was never proof in the first place.......

Alpha lipoic acid sounds to be the best today.It's doctor recommended where as milk thistsle doesn't even come up.

Mr. Shoulders
02-23-2009, 08:18 AM
Always run a liver protectant and you should be gtg

BULLDOZER
02-25-2009, 11:57 PM
2 months no problem. done it many times as a lad.

hilly
02-26-2009, 03:28 AM
I believe i read a study were oxymethalone was given to children/patients in hospital at dosages of 100mg+ for extended periods of time longer than 8-10 weeks with no lasting liver damage at all.

The liver is very resiliant.

MrDiamondCalves
03-01-2009, 03:28 AM
For me it's 6 weeks...