Pramipexole....Miracle?

[babybull]

Guys quick background:

6'2"
28yrs old
cycle history- 6 cycles since 2003
GYNO SURGERY-gland excision and lipo-2006

Tried a cycle after my surgery of tren/prop and got gyno immediately back....took 8 days for severe nipple pain and gland growth. I was on letro at the time and it still flared up. I was told as many have said that progesterone/prolactin gyno ISNT glandular and only "puffy nipples".

I gave up and decided cycling wasnt for me...UNTIL this year..LOL. I couldnt stand it and started a cycle of test e and tren. Took .5mg Adex ed from the start and one I added in tren at wk 3, BAM...gyno flared up right away and started to grow FAST. At this point Im guessing it has been the tren giving me gyno all along...so I take it upon myself to research and see my options.

I decided to go with letro/pramipexole for my gyno and give it a shot. I first upped my dose of adex to 1mg ed before my letro and prami came in. I then started this.

Day 1- 1mg adex, .5mg letro, .25mg pramipexole
Day 2- 1mg Letro, .5mg Prami
Day 3- 1.25mg Letro, .5mg Prami


And Im on day 4 now....believe it or not my gyno has shrunk in HALF. Im talking full on glandular gyno the size of a ping pong ball tunrng into a marble! The glad, tissue, fat, ect, is half the size it was 3 days ago.

Ive tried letro before, adex, nolva, aromasin, etc and it has never helped so Im thinking its the pramipexole thats doing it.

Can it be possible that this is kicking in after only 3 days? I cant believe my eyes guys...as anyone with gyno knows...I check it 100times a day to see if it is growing so I KNOW it is shrinking FAST!

Im just stoked guys...anyone with gyno issues....take $100 and get some letro/pramipexole and give it a shot. Ive had the surgery once...and this stuff seems to be killing my gyno recurrence even after its been there for a yr or more! Ill keep you guys updated on wether it takes it out totally or not.

[babybull]

One more day in....gyno is shrinking still..Im a happy camper!

[apex23]

Watch out for the rebound from the Lectro.....

I am glad you are happy, but I think it will be short lived once you discontinue using your products.

[babybull]

Watch out for the rebound from the Lectro.....

I am glad you are happy, but I think it will be short lived once you discontinue using your products.


Im not sure what exactly you mean? Once I discontinue the products Ill be off cyle and through PCT, this after tapering the letro down.

Im actually not going to bump the letro up and higher....because if it aint broke, dnt fix it right!? As some as my lumps are gone or atleast halted I will drop the letro down to maybe .5mg ed or lower and go from there.

[toxic Avenger]

I know someone on another board with a similar experience with tren and prami. worked same way. BigCat from BB.com swears up and down that it can't work. I see it work time and time again.

[NPCKnight]

Prami is excellent. Dont forget its positive effect on GH!

[force]

Ive had better success with dostinex than prami, I just switched back to dostinex in fact after giving prami a go over the last 2 mos.

F.

[kbtoy]

Babybull did you use research chemicals? i have the same problem with Tren and was looking into picking up some caber. And since I've heard so much negative stuff about research caber I was gonna go HG and that stuff ain't cheap.

[force]

Babybull did you use research chemicals? i have the same problem with Tren and was looking into picking up some caber. And since I've heard so much negative stuff about research caber I was gonna go HG and that stuff ain't cheap.

DO NOT use reserch caber, it is not stable in liquid. not sure if this is allowed but... www.aurapharm.com (http://www.aurapharm.com) much cheaper and I always get my stuff.

[NPCKnight]

caber can present heart valve issues...which is why id stay away. also not as effective.

[babybull]

Babybull did you use research chemicals? i have the same problem with Tren and was looking into picking up some caber. And since I've heard so much negative stuff about research caber I was gonna go HG and that stuff ain't cheap.


Yes...a reputable research chem place.

Dont use liquid caber....ive heard it isnt stable in liquid plus it cost way too much.

[apex23]

I want to know what dosage shows an increase in GH. NPC Knight, help me out if you can find a study.

[NPCKnight]

1-2mg i believe. Its too bad macrophage isnt on this board...hes over on ProM and AfBoard. He is the guy to talk to about this stuff.
400% increase in GH reported.

[NPCKnight]

Actually, I put a lot of info on my original post, which introduced this board to Prami.
check out post 8 for a graph.
Aromasin & Pramipexole - RX Muscle Forums

[apex23]

I wonder how much that might kill muscle gains.

[babybull]

I wonder how much that might kill muscle gains.


Still setting prs....so Im good on strength so far.

Im sure they wont be as big...but most of those "big" gains are water anyways.

There is one way to find out...and Id rather have slow gains than TIG OLE BITTIES!

[tribal]

DO NOT use reserch caber, it is not stable in liquid. not sure if this is allowed but... www.aurapharm.com (http://www.aurapharm.com) much cheaper and I always get my stuff.
have you experienced hair thinning with the caber?

caber can present heart valve issues...which is why id stay away. also not as effective.
supposedly, this occurs only at the dosage used for parkinsons, which is MUCH higher then bodybuilders use

[Formula94]

And to anyone else reading this, remember to slowly up your dosage! It took me 1.5 weeks to make it up to 1mg/day. I found that if I took too high of a dose too early, I would end up puking about 4-6 hours later. Same thing happened if I had more than one drink while taking Prami. Does work wonders though on the puffy nips!

NPCknight's thread on prami has ton of useful info regarding this substance.

[babybull]

And to anyone else reading this, remember to slowly up your dosage! It took me 1.5 weeks to make it up to 1mg/day. I found that if I took too high of a dose too early, I would end up puking about 4-6 hours later. Same thing happened if I had more than one drink while taking Prami. Does work wonders though on the puffy nips!

NPCknight's thread on prami has ton of useful info regarding this substance.


Im curious as to why you decided to go up to 1mg? Everything Ive read suggests that .5mg works fine to suppress prolactin? Did you want the sexual benefits as well? Im just curious.

As for me its day 7....seems as though the puffiness, and breast tissue is basically gone. The glands are there but smaller and "softer". Im totally excited that this has worked as well as it has. Ive never went over 1.25mg of letro and .5mg prami. Also keep in mind I was on Adex before so I did have some anti e in me already.

[JVALDEZ]

Still setting prs....so Im good on strength so far.

Im sure they wont be as big...but most of those "big" gains are water anyways.

There is one way to find out...and Id rather have slow gains than TIG OLE BITTIES!

was wondering how long is the cycle w/pramipexole for?

[babybull]

was wondering how long is the cycle w/pramipexole for?


Well my cycle is this:

16wk Test E 187.5mg EOD
Wk-4-16 Tren Ace 100mg EOD

Right now Im into week 6.5 of this cycle. I started the Prami at wk 5.5 and will run it till a few days after my last tren injection and taper it off slowly. Im running the letro at 1.25mg for another week or so and then dropping it to .6mg ed as long as the gyno stays down and will run that all the way through my PCT. PCT will be hcg/letro/clomid starting 2 weeks after my last test e injection.

[NPCKnight]

was wondering how long is the cycle w/pramipexole for?

PROBABLY as long as he is on nandrolone or tren. But you could in fact run it longer/continuous.

The positive effects on sex drive, mood, and GH release are unparalleled.

[Formula94]

Im curious as to why you decided to go up to 1mg? Everything Ive read suggests that .5mg works fine to suppress prolactin? Did you want the sexual benefits as well? Im just curious.

I was looking for the sleep benefits.

[babybull]

I was looking for the sleep benefits.


Yeah my sleep has sucked ass....maybe I need to up it a bit. After .5mg I get sleepy but then I can fall asleep for like 4-5hrs. Its been a little brutal but worth the gyno reversal Im getting.

Its going away enough right now that people are noticing that my chest looks different. It is great!

A few more days and Im going to lower the letro down to a lower dose...even though Ive never went over 1.25mg ed.

[phlex10]

Guys quick background:

6'2"
28yrs old
cycle history- 6 cycles since 2003
GYNO SURGERY-gland excision and lipo-2006

Tried a cycle after my surgery of tren/prop and got gyno immediately back....took 8 days for severe nipple pain and gland growth. I was on letro at the time and it still flared up. I was told as many have said that progesterone/prolactin gyno ISNT glandular and only "puffy nipples".

I gave up and decided cycling wasnt for me...UNTIL this year..LOL. I couldnt stand it and started a cycle of test e and tren. Took .5mg Adex ed from the start and one I added in tren at wk 3, BAM...gyno flared up right away and started to grow FAST. At this point Im guessing it has been the tren giving me gyno all along...so I take it upon myself to research and see my options.

I decided to go with letro/pramipexole for my gyno and give it a shot. I first upped my dose of adex to 1mg ed before my letro and prami came in. I then started this.

Day 1- 1mg adex, .5mg letro, .25mg pramipexole
Day 2- 1mg Letro, .5mg Prami
Day 3- 1.25mg Letro, .5mg Prami


And Im on day 4 now....believe it or not my gyno has shrunk in HALF. Im talking full on glandular gyno the size of a ping pong ball tunrng into a marble! The glad, tissue, fat, ect, is half the size it was 3 days ago.

Ive tried letro before, adex, nolva, aromasin, etc and it has never helped so Im thinking its the pramipexole thats doing it.

Can it be possible that this is kicking in after only 3 days? I cant believe my eyes guys...as anyone with gyno knows...I check it 100times a day to see if it is growing so I KNOW it is shrinking FAST!

Im just stoked guys...anyone with gyno issues....take $100 and get some letro/pramipexole and give it a shot. Ive had the surgery once...and this stuff seems to be killing my gyno recurrence even after its been there for a yr or more! Ill keep you guys updated on wether it takes it out totally or not.


Hey Babybull


Was having a research on the net around prami and gyno and came across this thread from few years ago. I finished up a cycle of sus-250, and dbol (pretty simple beginners cycle) about 3 months ago, throughout had a-dex and nolva on hand. ABout 2 weeks into it i started getting abit itchy and slowly got a hard lump under left nip. Was already runny a-dex so also added in nolva. The itch went away however the lump is still there. I tapered the nolva down etc after the cycle. I was wondering how it's been ever since you came off your prami/ letro cycle. Did the puffiness come back? Perhaps my stuff was bunk or i have prolactin gyno (although i wasn't on deca so not sure how). What are your thoughts?