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-Z-
08-28-2009, 12:40 PM
A brief break from UFC 102 coverage: last week, SportsIllustrated.com’s Josh Gross circulated a report that had Anderson Silva and management kicking around the idea of a heavyweight bout.

Their ideal opponent? Depending on how Silva decides to pack on weight, diabetes. Second choice: Frank Mir.

If that sounds like an audacious plan, Mir himself doesn’t see it that way. His theories on Silva’s pseudo-challenge and how the hypothetical fight might transpire below.

Sherdog.com: What was your reaction to the news that Anderson Silva was singling you out?

Frank Mir: It would be a pleasure. It would be like saying you get to go in there and hit Tom Brady. Certain people in our sport have certain abilities, and he’s obviously going to be a legend. He’s never sparred with me, so the only way I can get to work with him is to beat him down in a fight. I look at it as a huge honor.

Sherdog.com: Why do you think they floated your name specifically?

Mir: I think he feels that out of all the heavyweights, I’d be the least likely to shoot on him before anybody else. Stylistically, it’s to his advantage. If he’s going to fight a heavyweight, standing up and trying to pick him apart is probably his best avenue for victory. Which heavyweight is less likely to take him down? I probably have one of the weaker shots in the heavyweight division. Cain Velasquez, Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin -- all those guys wrestled in college at high levels. I only wrestled for two years in high school. If you’re going to stop someone’s shot, it’s probably easier to stop mine. I’ve also shown in my last couple of fights that I like to stand up.

Sherdog.com: So you’d stand with him?

Mir: Yeah, as long as I could. If he rings my bell, I’m going to go ahead and try to take him down. But why would I want to take him down right off the bat? I want to move around with the guy. Some of the things he did, I don’t even believe. When I watched the Forrest [Griffin] fight, it looked like I was watching a movie. Some people see that and they’re afraid of it. When I saw Mike Tyson fight when I was a kid and everyone was terrified, I was a 12-year-old going, “Wow, what would it feel like to fight him? How great would that be?”

I’m curious. I want to see what it feels like. I want to test myself against them.


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Frank Mir wants to test
himself against Anderson Silva.

Sherdog.com: What about the idea that there’s really no upside to fighting a middleweight, even if it is Anderson? If you beat him, you’re supposed to. If you don’t, you’re losing to a smaller guy.

Mir: Yeah, a lot of people wouldn’t do it. A lot of people wouldn’t have the balls to step in there and take such a huge risk. What if I lose? Who cares, man? Go to war, go to battle and get something out of it. Going into a fight with Anderson, I will gain things on a personal level. It might not make sense to people on paper, it might not make sense financially or career-wise, but it makes sense to me.

If Bruce Lee were reincarnated tomorrow, I would fight him. He weighs 135 lbs. and it might not make sense to people, but a lot of hardcore martial artists would understand why I would want to do it.

Sherdog.com: Do you think Anderson has knockout power against heavyweights?

Mir: That punch he landed on James Irvin look like it landed pretty solidly. I have to think he does hit pretty hard. With those little gloves, it doesn’t take a lot.

Sherdog.com: Has anyone in a position of power actually approached you about this?

Mir: No. Not yet. I’ve even tried to ask a few people and they go, “Well, just worry about Cheick Kongo right now.” As soon as I heard about it, I was calling up my manager and asking, “Hey, is this serious? Because if it is, I want to let you know, please, full steam ahead.” Why wouldn’t I want it? It’s not like you’re asking me to fight Miguel Torres. If he shows up at 220 pounds, I’m between 245 and 255 pounds. That’s not an outrageous size difference.

If I were him and wanted to pick a heavyweight, I’d probably pick Mirko "Cro Cop" first, since you know “Cro Cop” would stand with him the entire time. But I think I’m a good and intelligent choice for him. Brock or Shane would be a dumb choice. They’re not going to stand with him. They’re going to pinch him against the cage, strip him down, and beat him to death. It’s not going to prove anything.

Me and him, we can move around and play a cat and mouse game. I’d be looking to land the heavier, more powerful shots, and he’d be looking to pick me apart, looking for angles. I think it makes for a very exciting, interesting match-up.

Sherdog.com: And on the ground?

Mir: I’d rip his shoulder out of his socket. I roll with jiu-jitsu guys who are better technically than me in jiu-jitsu, but if I catch something, there’s no getting it back.

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-Z-
08-28-2009, 12:48 PM
IMO, Silva will slowly dismantle Mir.

firsthorseman97
08-28-2009, 12:57 PM
IMO, Silva will slowly dismantle Mir.

I agree.

It'd be a fight I'd definitely watch!

Plates
08-28-2009, 01:02 PM
When I see Mir talk, turds roll out of his mouth.

On one hand he says I'm the best, im awesome, I have a well rounded game, even though Brock is a wrestler, I can hang with him, I'll tear Brock's leg off, yada blah blah yada.
Now hes saying, well, if Anderson thinks he can beat a heavyweight, its me because I'm not a wrestler. But I'll tear his arm out of socket. WTF???

Dear Frank,
Maybe Silva wants to fight you because you talk a lot of shit like you are all that and a bag of chips. Maybe he wants to fight a so called "complete fighter" like you call yourself. By the way, why don't you get on the treadmill and lose some fucking weight, and fight him at a catch weight in the middle to make it news worthy.
Regards,
-P-

I'll take Silva by decision via technical striking from opening bell.

dublin-lifter
08-28-2009, 04:17 PM
awesome fight i think it could be slivas first real challange

Foreskin
08-29-2009, 02:40 PM
I don't see mir as a shit talker, he's just bouncing what if's around. the thing that bugs me, and you guys can agree or not it's just my opinion is the moving between weight classes,
1) they implemented them for a reason, to keep guys that are the same size together. if you let him jump up 2 classes now what's the point.
2) when a champion like silva or penn move up to fight how long does it push back a title defense in their own division? dosn't seem fair to the guy waiting for that title shot.
3) catch weight fights? again why have divisions if you're doing this.

just my thoughts on it, not meaning to rattle anyone's cage

chitownmscle
08-29-2009, 02:52 PM
I don't see mir as a shit talker, he's just bouncing what if's around. the thing that bugs me, and you guys can agree or not it's just my opinion is the moving between weight classes,
1) they implemented them for a reason, to keep guys that are the same size together. if you let him jump up 2 classes now what's the point.
2) when a champion like silva or penn move up to fight how long does it push back a title defense in their own division? dosn't seem fair to the guy waiting for that title shot.
3) catch weight fights? again why have divisions if you're doing this.

just my thoughts on it, not meaning to rattle anyone's cage

I completely agree with this, while I don't really have a problem with guys moving up or down one weight class your now asking Silva to move up to the heavyweight division, he is already dismantling light heavies but I think that's because that's not so far off his natural bodyweight.

On the otherside I understand what Mir says when he talks about if Bruce Lee were reincarnated how he would fight him. If you a hardcore MMA or martial arts person you will understand this statement.

-Z-
08-29-2009, 02:55 PM
I don't see mir as a shit talker, he's just bouncing what if's around. the thing that bugs me, and you guys can agree or not it's just my opinion is the moving between weight classes,
1) they implemented them for a reason, to keep guys that are the same size together. if you let him jump up 2 classes now what's the point.
2) when a champion like silva or penn move up to fight how long does it push back a title defense in their own division? dosn't seem fair to the guy waiting for that title shot.
3) catch weight fights? again why have divisions if you're doing this.

just my thoughts on it, not meaning to rattle anyone's cage

That's a bad attitude. This is fighting, come here wanting to rattle cages (just don't make this the pit).

I don't mind if someone changes weightclasses as long as they weight it, they fight it. That's the rule.

Now the title defense part I agree with. They should have to defend the title every fight. No champ should go a fight without defending it, simple as that. If a champ moves up/down a class to fight that's fine, they forefit their title.

-Z-
08-29-2009, 02:58 PM
I completely agree with this, while I don't really have a problem with guys moving up or down one weight class your now asking Silva to move up to the heavyweight division, he is already dismantling light heavies but I think that's because that's not so far off his natural bodyweight.

On the otherside I understand what Mir says when he talks about if Bruce Lee were reincarnated how he would fight him. If you a hardcore MMA or martial arts person you will understand this statement.

You wouldn't fight him, you would lose to him. He would be unreal I'm sure.

chitownmscle
08-29-2009, 03:15 PM
You wouldn't fight him, you would lose to him. He would be unreal I'm sure.

Didnt' say I wanted to fight him, was quoting Mir from the interview you posted

-Z-
08-29-2009, 03:26 PM
Didnt' say I wanted to fight him, was quoting Mir from the interview you posted

I didn't mean "you" as in chitownmscle, I meant "you" as in anyone.

chitownmscle
08-29-2009, 03:49 PM
Got it, and yes Bruce Lee owns every fighter today.

Foreskin
08-29-2009, 05:40 PM
I completely agree with this, while I don't really have a problem with guys moving up or down one weight class your now asking Silva to move up to the heavyweight division, he is already dismantling light heavies but I think that's because that's not so far off his natural bodyweight.

On the otherside I understand what Mir says when he talks about if Bruce Lee were reincarnated how he would fight him. If you a hardcore MMA or martial arts person you will understand this statement.

I understand that everyone wants a piece of the guy who's the pound for pound best to see how they stack up, wich is one thing i really liked about the original UFC tournaments, i think there are way too many fighters now to do this wich is why the weight classes make sense, maybe they should sign a guy to a contract at a certain bodyweight, once it's fulfilled he can move up or down if he chooses,

cobra
08-29-2009, 06:16 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't care who Anderson fights, he def has a chance at winning. I don't care if it's Mir, Brock, Fedor, whoever. Anderson is so fuckin technical man, the guy doesn;t even get touched in fights. Now, before everyone FREAKS OUT over me sayin that, remember I said CHANCE. I mean yeah, if Brock was to get him on the ground most likely he could kill him, but Brock could also get his face beat in or flyin kneed or some shit goin in for the takedown, just sayin. I wouldn't EVER count the guy out.

-Z-
08-29-2009, 07:01 PM
^No doubt