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Darnelle B
10-07-2009, 10:34 PM
First show should I do novice and open? Or just novice?

What do you guys think? First show tell me just do novice. But want more opinons.

Gr8rGood
10-07-2009, 11:14 PM
I want to do my first show too and I have some similar questions. I guess it'd just depend on the quality of competition. I've been looking at competitor pics of the contests I'd like to enter to try and size myself up.

F.K.M.
10-08-2009, 12:18 AM
Personally, I feel it's better to in the upper echelon of the novice class than it is to be at the bottom of the open. That's my approach going into my first competition.

Scoobysnacks
10-08-2009, 10:33 AM
Ive always done both until I won my class and was barred from most novice classes now. If you want to be the best you need to compete against the best to see what you are lacking.

Ss

AnglicanBeachParty
10-08-2009, 10:58 AM
If it was me, I'd sign up for the Novice class now, with plans to add the Open class on contest day, depending on who shows up in the various classes.

For example, you don't want to be the only competitor in the Novice class. Sure, you get a trophy, but you don't learn anything. If that were to be the case, I'd pay the extra bucks to cross over, on contest day.

Darnelle B
10-08-2009, 11:46 AM
Ive always done both until I won my class and was barred from most novice classes now. If you want to be the best you need to compete against the best to see what you are lacking.

Ss

Your right I'm going to fo both. So that way I can learn alot. Never know might do well in the open I hope. Lol

STACEYK
10-08-2009, 11:46 AM
First show should I do novice and open? Or just novice?

What do you guys think? First show tell me just do novice. But want more opinons.


If $$ isent an option I say do BOTH!:yep:

becks
10-08-2009, 12:00 PM
Personally, I feel it's better to in the upper echelon of the novice class than it is to be at the bottom of the open. That's my approach going into my first competition.

Not to attack you but you need to prepare yourself better.

Confidence and presentation go along way when on stage and it seems you lack confidence. You must always go into a show knowing you did everything you could to bring your best package.

By admitting you would rather be the best in one category than the bottom of another seems funny to me. Great champions didn't start by being the best, they entered the challenged and worked day in and day out to be the best.

If you are never to taste defeat how do you enjoy the taste of victory?

becks
10-08-2009, 12:08 PM
First show should I do novice and open? Or just novice?

What do you guys think? First show tell me just do novice. But want more opinons.

I would recommend doing both. It will give you the experience you need to challenge as you progress.

Competing in the open also gives the judges a chance to compare you to the other athletes. One thing that most competitors forget to take advantage of in their first few shows, is to ask the judges for their opinion. You will get much more information from the judges about you physique than friends. This information is golden and help you progress from show to show.

Darnelle B
10-08-2009, 12:15 PM
I would recommend doing both. It will give you the experience you need to challenge as you progress.

Competing in the open also gives the judges a chance to compare you to the other athletes. One thing that most competitors forget to take advantage of in their first few shows, is to ask the judges for their opinion. You will get much more information from the judges about you physique than friends. This information is golden and help you progress from show to show.

Fuck I'm hype I'm doing both. Thank you guys. I really want to get all the learning exprence I can from my first show.

becks
10-08-2009, 12:32 PM
Fuck I'm hype I'm doing both. Thank you guys. I really want to get all the learning exprence I can from my first show.

Have fun with the day, relax and go out on the stage full of confidence.

Practice your mandatories as this will really help in the confidence dept. Knowing you are hitting your poses and showing off all the hard work will have you exude confidence and the judges will reward you for it.

Being that this is your first show, hold your mandatories in front of a mirror for 30-60 sec. Seeing the pose helps you find the right position and holding the pose helps the muscle memory for when on stage.

Darnelle B
10-08-2009, 12:39 PM
Have fun with the day, relax and go out on the stage full of confidence.

Practice your mandatories as this will really help in the confidence dept. Knowing you are hitting your poses and showing off all the hard work will have you exude confidence and the judges will reward you for it.

Being that this is your first show, hold your mandatories in front of a mirror for 30-60 sec. Seeing the pose helps you find the right position and holding the pose helps the muscle memory for when on stage.



Ok will do. Going to practice in about 4 mins almost done with cardio.

bushmaster
10-08-2009, 01:23 PM
I am doing my first show on Oct 17th New London, CT and I will be doing Novice and Open! Why do one if you know you worked your ass off?

Darnelle B
10-08-2009, 09:56 PM
Since I'm doing novice and open. Should I have to diffrent routines? One routine for novice. And one for the open? How does it work?

fitmomma3
10-08-2009, 10:15 PM
Same routine for both and they'll just have you do it once in the night show. All comptitors are called out by number only once no matter how many classes you may be in. And my input as well ALWAYS do novice and open IMO. If you ahve prepared fully you should be confident in both. And honestly not to freak you out but novice classes are not always truly novice competitors, sometimes you fair better in your own weight class.

My husband did his first show in 07 and his Novice class because it wasn't split by weights was deeper than his weight class (middleweights). AND not to mention the two of the top three in novice had like 15 years on him and are regulars on the circuit in this area and compete as heavy weights, so like I said even though the middlewights wern't "novice" it seemed like more appropriate competition. He didn't place in novice but placed 3rd out of 7 in open go figure.

You first show is for experience mostly. Both divisions will give you more time on stage. Which is great!

F.K.M.
10-09-2009, 12:01 AM
Not to attack you but you need to prepare yourself better.

Confidence and presentation go along way when on stage and it seems you lack confidence. You must always go into a show knowing you did everything you could to bring your best package.

By admitting you would rather be the best in one category than the bottom of another seems funny to me. Great champions didn't start by being the best, they entered the challenged and worked day in and day out to be the best.

If you are never to taste defeat how do you enjoy the taste of victory?


I still disagree with doing both novice and open class when you're a beginner. I have been to several NPC competitions as a spectator and I just find it annoying when I see the guys in the novice class do the open as well. Or from a woman's standpoint, seeing a girl do bikini, then the same girl doing figure.

If I find it off putting, then I'm sure the judges don't care for it either. Also, what is the novice class there for? For beginners. If you can't win the novice, what business do you have in the open? I'm sure the organization doesn't mind what you're paying in registration fees.

From a personal standpoint, I am not there to collect trophies and I am not there to look foolish on stage. There is plenty of time to compete in the open and win my class, and once that's done, to compete in the open and win my class and an overall, and once that's done go for my Pro card.

I want to improve from comp to comp...not bounce around in ranks as a novice and in the open...maybe I'm a little too methodical...and I am sure losses will come, but I look to that as obstacles to overcome and make me better.

Darnelle B
10-09-2009, 02:03 AM
Same routine for both and they'll just have you do it once in the night show. All comptitors are called out by number only once no matter how many classes you may be in. And my input as well ALWAYS do novice and open IMO. If you ahve prepared fully you should be confident in both. And honestly not to freak you out but novice classes are not always truly novice competitors, sometimes you fair better in your own weight class.

My husband did his first show in 07 and his Novice class because it wasn't split by weights was deeper than his weight class (middleweights). AND not to mention the two of the top three in novice had like 15 years on him and are regulars on the circuit in this area and compete as heavy weights, so like I said even though the middlewights wern't "novice" it seemed like more appropriate competition. He didn't place in novice but placed 3rd out of 7 in open go figure.

You first show is for experience mostly. Both divisions will give you more time on stage. Which is great!

Ok so I will have to do my routine once and that is at night? This show is just to get my m feet wet and have fun doing what I love. So I going to jump in both classes and rock out and give my best. Now just want to make sure I only got to do my routine one. I thought because it two classes I needed to song. All so new to this sorry. What exalty do they do at the pre-judging. Ask u to do mandatorys and your routine?

bushmaster
10-09-2009, 07:26 AM
Ok so I will have to do my routine once and that is at night? This show is just to get my m feet wet and have fun doing what I love. So I going to jump in both classes and rock out and give my best. Now just want to make sure I only got to do my routine one. I thought because it two classes I needed to song. All so new to this sorry. What exalty do they do at the pre-judging. Ask u to do mandatorys and your routine?
Show up at the show next week in New London Ct to check out the scene. Prejudging you will come out and first just do quarter turns. Then they will have you all go through your mandatories and move you around the stage (you want to be in the middle, in front of head judge because that usually means your doing well). After prejudging there is usually a few hours until the night show when you will do your routine. If you are doing open and novice you will only do 1 routine but it will be the open time which I think for most NPC shows is a max of 90 secs. If you just do Novice its 60 secs. If I am wrong with any of this correct me please as I am new to this but have experienced watching my friends compete. Can't wait to do my show in 8 days!!

Sledge
10-09-2009, 08:44 AM
Ok so I will have to do my routine once and that is at night? This show is just to get my m feet wet and have fun doing what I love. So I going to jump in both classes and rock out and give my best. Now just want to make sure I only got to do my routine one. I thought because it two classes I needed to song. All so new to this sorry. What exalty do they do at the pre-judging. Ask u to do mandatorys and your routine?

Contact the organizers and check with them. But you should have to do 2x mandatorys at prejudging and one routine for the night show.

And you shouldn't worry about who your competing against, their is only one person you have to have to worry about and that's you.

TheTransformator
10-09-2009, 08:49 AM
Get some practice...do both...

fitmomma3
10-14-2009, 09:41 PM
Ok so I will have to do my routine once and that is at night? This show is just to get my m feet wet and have fun doing what I love. So I going to jump in both classes and rock out and give my best. Now just want to make sure I only got to do my routine one. I thought because it two classes I needed to song. All so new to this sorry. What exalty do they do at the pre-judging. Ask u to do mandatorys and your routine?
Pre judging you will come out for mandatories in both classes novice usually first. Night show they go in order of classes by number so once you are called for you routine in the novice class they will skip your number in the open class.

Darnelle B
10-25-2009, 11:01 AM
man feeling i should only do novice alot of guys at my gym said if im not on any juice i should stick to the novice because the show im doing is a big show and the guys in the open will be crazy juiced. idk i really want to do both but having mixed feeling some what.

what do you guys think? novice for my first one then open at another show or just jump in with the sharks and swim around?