Mike and Paula's Journal of Life, Love and Ever-Changing Goals [Archive] - Page 19

gman

01-28-2010, 09:30 AM

Today I walked 2 miles to the Y and did shoulders and abs:

Circuit of:

Reverse flys
DB upright rows
Arnold press
Laterals
Front raises

4x through with 1 minute rest between circuits, no rest between exercises.

Then abs:

Cable crunches: 4 sets of 20 with 150lb on stack
Super crunches (start with feet flat and arms stretched out over head, pull knees up and reach arms towards feet at same time)...these kill: 16 14 15 16
Ab roller: 3 sets of 10

30 minutes of easy cardio

2.5 mile walk home tonight.

Baldiewonkanobi

01-28-2010, 10:31 AM

What are you going to do with all the money you are saving on Charmin? Splurge in Columbus?

Baldie

gman

01-28-2010, 10:45 AM

What are you going to do with all the money you are saving on Charmin? Splurge in Columbus?

Baldie

I am going to buy a big steak at Ruth's Chris after the show with the money I save

Doing my part to save the forests, aren't I?

You are absolutely correct, those 2.4 lbs I lost the first day are from having no food in my intestines, that's for sure!

gman

01-28-2010, 11:01 AM

Same here. But they've said that a few other times since the HUUUUGGGEEEE snow we got, that's still hanging around in big chunks. Won't believe it until it happens either!

According to my son, Russell, after that 21" dump, there was a pile of snow next to Boston Market that was bigger than Boston Market.

buckimscl

01-28-2010, 12:26 PM

Ruth's Chris:drool:

gman

01-28-2010, 12:29 PM

Ruth's Chris:drool:

I can only afford to go there when someone else is paying!

Forecast is calling for 5-10" of snow with a high of 29 Saturday...

I have learned to not believe weather stuff here until the day after.

Bob45

01-28-2010, 12:30 PM

According to my son, Russell, after that 21" dump, there was a pile of snow next to Boston Market that was bigger than Boston Market.

A 21" dump? Whoa.

gman

01-28-2010, 01:05 PM

Yeah, that was in Charlottesville right before Christmas. We got rain.

gman

01-28-2010, 01:06 PM

Just got an email from all the whey protein.

big blowout. 25lbs of isolate for $106. They have other sizes on sale too. I am not sure how much the shipping is but that is damn cheap for isolate.

PM me and I can forward the email to you.

gman

01-28-2010, 01:34 PM

I was pretty happy this morning when I spotted veins in my quads and calves! It doesn't take much these days to make happy.

Baldiewonkanobi

01-28-2010, 01:51 PM

Charmin, 21" dump....I'm so confused :confused:

Baldie

gman

01-28-2010, 01:59 PM

Charmin, 21" dump....I'm so confused :confused:

Baldie

I am too, Baldie, and I wrote it.

Baldiewonkanobi

01-28-2010, 03:21 PM

Isopure by the 55 gallon drum?? :yep: E mail me contact [email protected]

Baldie

gman

01-28-2010, 04:43 PM

Just ordered me 25 lbs of peanut butter whey isolate, free shipping if you use freeship in the coupon section! $21 for every 5lbs. This is a steal.

1g of carb per scoop

I will have it in reserve for later,since I am not using any whey on the 21 day challenge I am on.

blu2xtreme

01-28-2010, 04:53 PM

You are so cheap... :p

great bargin shopping :)

Bob45

01-28-2010, 05:15 PM

Hopefully you like it when you get it.

freebirdmac

01-28-2010, 05:22 PM

Hopefully you like it when you get it.

He has no choice :)

gman

01-28-2010, 05:22 PM

Hopefully you like it when you get it.

I love peanut butter. I hope it tastes good, I can always add sugar free choc syrup! lol

I have ordered their stuff before and it was good.

Shadow

01-28-2010, 07:32 PM

According to my son, Russell, after that 21" dump, there was a pile of snow next to Boston Market that was bigger than Boston Market.

Very true. It was fun seeing people climb to that top of that gigantic thing. It's still there, though not as big.

gman

01-28-2010, 08:52 PM

Unbelievable that snow is still on the ground a month later. We have had some pretty warm days in that time!

gman

01-28-2010, 08:53 PM

Wow that I think was the hungriest I have ever felt. I left work late and got home at 815 and made my chicken over 4 cups of lettuce with 2 tbsp of olive oil dressing. I had not eaten since 3 and that meal was pretty small, so my stomach felt like it was digesting my spine.

freebirdmac

01-28-2010, 08:56 PM

5-10 inches of snow coming our way Mike. Get your workout and cardio in tomorrow. You may not be able to do anything until Monday afternoon :)

gman

01-28-2010, 09:00 PM

5-10 inches of snow coming our way Mike. Get your workout and cardio in tomorrow. You may not be able to do anything until Monday afternoon :)

it will rain...they always get it wrong!

If not, I will get cardio anyway by playing in the snow with my little girl! She's not little anymore, but I still can call her that, can't I?

blu2xtreme

01-28-2010, 09:09 PM

it will rain...they always get it wrong!

If not, I will get cardio anyway by playing in the snow with my little girl! She's not little anymore, but I still can call her that, can't I?

You will call her your little girl when she is 45 ...ask my dad
I am still his little pup ...don't ask

I still call my 15 daughter ...my little missy

Enjoy your snow

gman

01-28-2010, 09:12 PM

You will call her your little girl when she is 45 ...ask my dad
I am still his little pup ...don't ask

I still call my 15 daughter ...my little missy

Enjoy your snow

You mean when she is old like we are now, I will still call her my Gracie? That's gonna be so nice.

I hope they get it wrong, I want 10-15" instead. I love snow!

blu2xtreme

01-28-2010, 09:35 PM

Here it is - Chocolate Molten Cake

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/chilischocolatemoltencake.jpg

gman

01-28-2010, 09:42 PM

Here it is - Chocolate Molten Cake

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/chilischocolatemoltencake.jpg

If I get to 180 by Columbus, I will get one. or three :drool::drool::drool:

blu2xtreme

01-28-2010, 09:46 PM

If I get to 180 by Columbus, I will get one. or three :drool::drool::drool:

Thought you might like that :yep:

MsGuns

01-29-2010, 12:07 AM

oh wow the Arnold is in 20 days?
WoW I cant wait to meet you guys and we have to do dinner one night for sure.

MsGuns

01-29-2010, 12:10 AM

Well, anyhow, it is good to see you for as long as you're here!

aaahhh Thx...

You gave up tuna and got Ms. Guns....not bad.

Baldie

Thx
What did I miss? lol
Baldie and I am better than tuna...lol

AnglicanBeachParty

01-29-2010, 04:51 AM

oh wow the Arnold is in 20 days?
WoW I cant wait to meet you guys and we have to do dinner one night for sure.

:hypno: :no:

The Arnold is 35 days away ... don't scare me like that!

gman

01-29-2010, 06:06 AM

Day 1: 191.8
Day 2: 189.4 (-2.4)
Day 3: 187.2 (-4.6)

waist just under 35

AnglicanBeachParty

01-29-2010, 06:38 AM

Day 1: 191.8
Day 2: 189.4 (-2.4)
Day 3: 187.2 (-4.6)

waist just under 35

That's dramatic! Is it water loss?

gman

01-29-2010, 07:39 AM

I think it's mostly water. How can I tell? By the way, I was 194.4 Tuesday morning!

Bob45

01-29-2010, 08:03 AM

I think it's mostly water. How can I tell? By the way, I was 194.4 Tuesday morning!

Anything due to modern medicine?

gman

01-29-2010, 08:12 AM

Nothing I was not already doing! Lol

no clen. No Desire to do that. Mainly just lower calories and no salt in the diet

Bob45

01-29-2010, 08:16 AM

Nothing I was not already doing! Lol

no clen. No Desire to do that. Mainly just lower calories and no salt in the diet

Damn, hoping was there was some secret weapon.

gman

01-29-2010, 09:02 AM

No secret weapon other than eating a lot less.

gman

01-29-2010, 09:05 AM

Arm day:

Supersets

Close grip bench: 12/155, 10/155, 9/155 and seated simultaneous db curls:12/35 9/35 7/35

Body weight dips: 17 12 10 and standing hammer curls: 10/35 11/35 9/35

Reverse straight bar pressdowns: 13/110 13/110 12/110 and straight bar cable curls: 7/150 6/150 8/140

45 minutes on elliptical at 110. No walking today, have too many appointments out of the office.

I can see my abs coming in already. groove down the middle is showing up and I don't have to flex much to see the 4 pack now

freebirdmac

01-29-2010, 09:58 AM

So water around the middle was hiding the abs :)

Less sodium in the diet is better for you all around anyway.

gman

01-29-2010, 10:03 AM

So water around the middle was hiding the abs :)

Less sodium in the diet is better for you all around anyway.

Yeah, it's got to be water. What's strange is how I am shedding all this water when I was on keto, and should have already been low on holding water!

All I can think of is sodium was high before this.

It's impossible to lose weight this fast and have it be actual fat burning off.

I was 194.4 on Tuesday and 187.2 today.

blu2xtreme

01-29-2010, 10:18 AM

So will you have 6 pack showing by 182 ?

Your doing great ...I know your excited :)

gman

01-29-2010, 01:41 PM

So will you have 6 pack showing by 182 ?

Your doing great ...I know your excited :)

I think I will have a real solid 4 pack at 182, with a hint of the other 2.!

gman

01-29-2010, 01:42 PM

Starting to get used to the hunger, I actually was able to get to 1:30 before eating lunch today.

I could tell you guys what I am doing, but would get too much grief!

One clue is I am eating a lot less than Paula

HeavyDutyGuy

01-29-2010, 02:09 PM

Yeah, it's got to be water. What's strange is how I am shedding all this water when I was on keto, and should have already been low on holding water!

All I can think of is sodium was high before this.

It's impossible to lose weight this fast and have it be actual fat burning off.

I was 194.4 on Tuesday and 187.2 today.

You'd be surprised how much of what you think is fat is water. Even on keto- you get an initial dump of water first week or so when you cut carbs that low. But, the body starts making its own glycogen from protein. You're almost there! Now kick it!

blu2xtreme

01-29-2010, 02:13 PM

gman

01-29-2010, 02:21 PM

You'd be surprised how much of what you think is fat is water. Even on keto- you get an initial dump of water first week or so when you cut carbs that low. But, the body starts making its own glycogen from protein. You're almost there! Now kick it!

I am in high gear now!

I actually do have a lot of fat yet, I am 15% bf in my avatar, and that was on Sunday. I had a dexascan on Monday!

But I am getting there, no matter what it takes!

gman

01-29-2010, 04:52 PM

Can't wait for dinner....not as hungry as yesterday. I think I am getting used to this now.

Bob45

01-29-2010, 05:55 PM

Have a good weekend Mike.

gman

01-29-2010, 05:59 PM

Have a good weekend Mike.

You too Bob!

Hopefully I can get to work tomorrow through the snow so I won't have to be tempted...here at work there is nothing to eat other than what I use for the diet. At home, lots of stuff.

This diet is not easy! If I weren't taking 8 fish oils a day, it would be a lot lower cals than it already is!

freebirdmac

01-29-2010, 06:03 PM

A hard core diet like that is ok for a short term. Like contest prep timeframe. Not something I'd like to see anyone do for long, or often.

gman

01-29-2010, 06:07 PM

A hard core diet like that is ok for a short term. Like contest prep timeframe. Not something I'd like to see anyone do for long, or often.

21 days of hell, and never again, I promise, Pam!

I would not advise this for anyone either for more than 21 days. It's too hardcore.

I am probably going to have a cheat on Super Bowl Sunday at the party, but I won't tell TJ if you don't!

Bob45

01-29-2010, 06:10 PM

21 days of hell, and never again, I promise, Pam!

I would not advise this for anyone either for more than 21 days. It's too hardcore.

I am probably going to have a cheat on Super Bowl Sunday at the party, but I won't tell TJ if you don't!

I did the same thing for about the same amount of time. I think I was down to 800 calories. It sure isn't easy. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

gman

01-29-2010, 06:12 PM

freebirdmac

01-29-2010, 06:15 PM

Are you keeping up the BCAAs?

Bob45

01-29-2010, 06:18 PM

oh I am not quite that low. 1000-1100 depending on the choices I make from the menu. Still hard though. 80 of those cals are from fish oil! It will be worth it to get the fat off once and for all. It's worth 2-3 lbs of muscle to lose 12 of fat. I am taking 10 EAA tabs a day which have very little calories but supposedly provide the equivalent of 40g of protein.

You'll find once you are lean your body will be much more efficient. You will be able to eat a lot more good calories after the contest and not gain a lot of fat. It is easy to get out of hand with it for sure though.

gman

01-29-2010, 06:23 PM

Are you keeping up the BCAAs?

I need to replenish my supply and start up again.

You'll find once you are lean your body will be much more efficient. You will be able to eat a lot more good calories after the contest and not gain a lot of fat. It is easy to get out of hand with it for sure though.

I have heard this from almost everyone. I look forward to that. I heard if you stay at a new weight for 8-10 weeks, it becomes the new setpoint. I have no idea if it is true, but I damn sure hope it is.

freebirdmac

01-29-2010, 06:25 PM

I read about your cheat desires at the Arnold. Be careful. Your eyes will be bigger than your tummy and you don't want a horrible rebound :)

gman

01-29-2010, 06:28 PM

I read about your cheat desires at the Arnold. Be careful. Your eyes will be bigger than your tummy and you don't want a horrible rebound :)

I am sure I won't be able to even finish the food, so I am just fantasizing I think!

I just want a big cheeseburger with bacon. and maybe a hot fudge sundae!

I think most guys put on 10lb the week after the show, but it's mostly water.

AnglicanBeachParty

01-29-2010, 06:29 PM

You'll find once you are lean your body will be much more efficient. You will be able to eat a lot more good calories after the contest and not gain a lot of fat. It is easy to get out of hand with it for sure though.

That didn't seem to be my experience.

I gained 40 pounds in 2 months after my contest in July, 2009.

Well, maybe they weren't good calories, though! :dunno:

GirlyMuscle

01-29-2010, 06:34 PM

A true set point will take 18 months to 2 years.

You will gain at least 10 pounds as soon as you add carbs back in. Maybe more over the coming weeks. Just be aware of that.

gman

01-29-2010, 07:09 PM

That didn't seem to be my experience.

I gained 40 pounds in 2 months after my contest in July, 2009.

Well, maybe they weren't good calories, though! :dunno:

DQ Blizards every day for 60 days will do that, ABP! Live and learn:p

A true set point will take 18 months to 2 years.

You will gain at least 10 pounds as soon as you add carbs back in. Maybe more over the coming weeks. Just be aware of that.

Wow, that long to reset? I was hoping sooner, but I will just try to stay lean for a long time. I do have the show in August to keep me from straying too much.

As long as the waist size stays the same, I will try not to worry about the scale.

Bob45

01-29-2010, 07:10 PM

That didn't seem to be my experience.

I gained 40 pounds in 2 months after my contest in July, 2009.

Well, maybe they weren't good calories, though! :dunno:

It was like that for me. Now getting there again is another story.

Bob45

01-29-2010, 07:11 PM

A true set point will take 18 months to 2 years.

You will gain at least 10 pounds as soon as you add carbs back in. Maybe more over the coming weeks. Just be aware of that.

Yup, I've been 225 to 230 for over a year. I am pretty much set there now!

gman

01-29-2010, 07:47 PM

Yup, I've been 225 to 230 for over a year. I am pretty much set there now!

that 220-225 range was what my body seemed to really like. I could eat almost anything and not go above it, but going below was tough.

Bob45

01-29-2010, 08:44 PM

You are setting records with this avatar. It has been up at least a couple weeks, lol.

gman

01-29-2010, 08:47 PM

You are setting records with this avatar. It has been up at least a couple weeks, lol.

nope..same pose, but this one was last Sunday!

but I am working on a new one as you speak :p

Bob45

01-29-2010, 08:48 PM

nope..same pose, but this one was last Sunday!

but I am working on a new one as you speak :p

I am interested to see a lat spread and most muscular out of you.

AnglicanBeachParty

01-29-2010, 08:56 PM

DQ Blizards every day for 60 days will do that, ABP! Live and learn:p

It was only every other day ... wait, who told you? :dunno:

gman

01-29-2010, 08:57 PM

Sunday I will try them when I do my weekly progress pics!

I have no idea how to do a lat spread, but will see if I can figure it out.

gman

01-29-2010, 08:57 PM

It was only every other day ... wait, who told you? :dunno:

I was there with you, remember?

Bob45

01-29-2010, 08:58 PM

It was only every other day ... wait, who told you? :dunno:

Haha, I remember thinking wow I can eat a lot now and not gain fat. Then I kept doing it and it came.

Bob45

01-29-2010, 09:03 PM

Sunday I will try them when I do my weekly progress pics!

I have no idea how to do a lat spread, but will see if I can figure it out.

It is good to do all the poses. You get that mind muscle connection. Then when you lift you get it a lot easier. I see the lats on the front double bi so they are there. Look at some pics and do it. You should be able to control every muscle just sitting down at the computer.

gman

01-29-2010, 09:13 PM

It is good to do all the poses. You get that mind muscle connection. Then when you lift you get it a lot easier. I see the lats on the front double bi so they are there. Look at some pics and do it. You should be able to control every muscle just sitting down at the computer.

I have a real hard time with it, Bob...I still can't flex one pec and not the other, and that's one of the easier ones to do.

gman

01-29-2010, 09:14 PM

I tried to leanmy shoulders back a little like baldie suggested...seems to have made some muscles show up

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/photo_03.jpg

Down4whatever

01-29-2010, 09:17 PM

I tried to leanmy shoulders back a little like baldie suggested...seems to have made some muscles show up

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/photo_03.jpg

Nice--there ya go! You guys with mass make me sick.... ;)

gman

01-29-2010, 09:19 PM

it's good lighting Matt, that's all!

AnglicanBeachParty

01-29-2010, 09:23 PM

I tried to leanmy shoulders back a little like baldie suggested...seems to have made some muscles show up

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/photo_03.jpg

That worked a little too good! Please go back to the old way of doing it for Columbus, okay? :p

blu2xtreme

01-29-2010, 09:23 PM

I thought you were saving pics for after the 21 day challenge
I knew you couldn't do it:p

Your back looks fantastic!

gman

01-29-2010, 09:25 PM

I thought you were saving pics for after the 21 day challenge
I knew you couldn't do it:p

Your back looks fantastic!

I am too vain, but you already knew that.:p

gman

01-29-2010, 09:26 PM

That worked a little too good! Please go back to the old way of doing it for Columbus, okay? :p

If the price is right, maybe!

Bob45

01-29-2010, 09:29 PM

Get a camera with a self timer! The back is looking great!

blu2xtreme

01-29-2010, 09:55 PM

I am too vain, but you already knew that.:p

You earned it :photo:

buckimscl

01-29-2010, 10:40 PM

Checking in Gman!

Baldiewonkanobi

01-30-2010, 07:27 AM

Nice--there ya go! You guys with mass make me sick.... ;)

You NAILED that back shot.......

Mikeeeeeeeeeee :hmn:

Baldie

gman

01-30-2010, 07:43 AM

Checking in Gman!

Good morning bucki!

You NAILED that back shot.......

Mikeeeeeeeeeee :hmn:

Baldie

Thanks for the tip, it really helped. Can't wait to do it in the progress pics tomorrow and see how it looks!

gman

01-30-2010, 07:44 AM

Day 1: 191.8
Day 2: 189.4 (-2.4)
Day 3: 187.2 (-4.6)
Day 4: 186.4 (-5.4)

shit, I only lost .8lbs yesterday.... lol

freebirdmac

01-30-2010, 07:49 AM

What's this white stuff Mike?

gman

01-30-2010, 07:50 AM

What's this white stuff Mike?

my dogs had fun trying to figure out what it was!

I think I have seen pictures of it before, and it may be what they use in the winter olympics, don't know.

Bob45

01-30-2010, 08:51 AM

Day 1: 191.8
Day 2: 189.4 (-2.4)
Day 3: 187.2 (-4.6)
Day 4: 186.4 (-5.4)

shit, I only lost .8lbs yesterday.... lol

Good thing you didn't listen to the people that said eat more to lose.

gman

01-30-2010, 08:55 AM

Good thing you didn't listen to the people that said eat more to lose.

It's never worked for me. Maybe once I am lean for a long time I can start eating 3000 a day and won't gain weight

freebirdmac

01-30-2010, 08:55 AM

Good thing you didn't listen to the people that said eat more to lose.

He's dropping water. The cal drop wouldn't show that fast.

If he were doing this for the long term he would need to eat more.

gman

01-30-2010, 08:57 AM

He's dropping water. The cal drop wouldn't show that fast.

If he were doing this for the long term he would need to eat more.

Trying to figure out why cutting calories causes someone to lose water.

I won't argue that it's physcially impossible to lose fat this fast! Theoretically my bf% is probably going up right now because I have less water and the same fat as before.

It will slow down today and tomorrow for no other reason than I am not exercising at all. Y is closed and I have no boots to walk in. I drove to work and it was fine. The snow is powdery, not the usually icy crud we get around here...didn't even have to use a scraper for the windows, just swiped the snow off!

freebirdmac

01-30-2010, 09:00 AM

So, it's not snow ball making kind of snow?

Look at the foods you've cut out/back on. Something in there was causing water retention.

Bob45

01-30-2010, 09:03 AM

He's dropping water. The cal drop wouldn't show that fast.

If he were doing this for the long term he would need to eat more.

Hopefully he won't be just losing water on his deficit. We are talking short term. I thought it was 21 days. How many times has he tried to lose and everyone on the other site said eat more? He never said he was doing it permanently.

gman

01-30-2010, 09:06 AM

So, it's not snow ball making kind of snow?

Look at the foods you've cut out/back on. Something in there was causing water retention.

Cut back on nuts and peanut butter, both of which had salt (I can't handle raw nuts).

Basically I am eating 1 cup of oatmeal, 1 cup of cottage cheese or plain yogurt, and 8 oz of chicken. Everything else is pretty much water. (vitamin water, apple, fish oil, cucumber, blueberries, lettuce ,etc). In fact I am stunned it even adds up to 1100 calories because it sure isn't much food.

Hopefully he won't be just losing water on his deficit. We are talking short term. I thought it was 21 days. How many times has he tried to lose and everyone on the other site said eat more? He never said he was doing it permanently.

It is just 21 days, Bob. I think it's going to be 5-6 lbs of actual fat, maybe 8 lbs of water.

Funny though, on Tuesday I was 194.4, today 186.2, so already dropped 8.2 lbs, but Tuesday was not the day I started the diet, so I did not use that as my start weight.

Bob45

01-30-2010, 09:07 AM

Cut back on nuts and peanut butter, both of which had salt (I can't handle raw nuts).

Basically I am eating 1 cup of oatmeal, 1 cup of cottage cheese or plain yogurt, and 8 oz of chicken. Everything else is pretty much water. (vitamin water, apple, fish oil, cucumber, lettuce ,etc)

It is just 21 days, Bob. I think it's going to be 5-6 lbs of actual fat, maybe 8 lbs of water.

That is a lot of fat!

freebirdmac

01-30-2010, 09:08 AM

Hopefully he won't be just losing water on his deficit. We are talking short term. I thought it was 21 days. How many times has he tried to lose and everyone on the other site said eat more? He never said he was doing it permanently.

Over time he should lose fat as well.

In the past when he was eating 1800 cals a day (or less) for a longer term diet. That was too little. He's eaten more this go around and lost fat quite nicely. Yes, the very low cal diet he is doing now is very short term.

freebirdmac

01-30-2010, 09:13 AM

I checked my sunflower butter. It has 120mg per 2 tbs. How did your pb compare?

Bob45

01-30-2010, 09:13 AM

Over time he should lose fat as well.

In the past when he was eating 1800 cals a day (or less) for a longer term diet. That was too little. He's eaten more this go around and lost fat quite nicely. Yes, the very low cal diet he is doing now is very short term.

What was long term? After a month or two he stopped. Then gained all the fat back. Don't get me wrong. I totally agree long term low calorie will just eat your muscle away. Nothing was ever long term. It was way up or way down. Are we having fun yet Pam?

freebirdmac

01-30-2010, 09:15 AM

gman

01-30-2010, 09:16 AM

gman

01-30-2010, 09:17 AM

What was long term? After a month or two he stopped. Then gained all the fat back. Don't get me wrong. I totally agree long term low calorie will just eat your muscle away. Nothing was ever long term. It was way up or way down. Are we having fun yet Pam?

No I did 1800 with Todd Payette for 3 months and I lost a shitload, down to 190, but you are right, it came right back on when I stopped! I also looked a lot worse than this time

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/Frontdblbi2007-2-27avatar.jpg

Who can eat tuna and frozen veggies every meal!

Bob45

01-30-2010, 09:19 AM

Are you like Mike and just want to argue for argumentative sake?

Hahaha, YES! We all mainly agree on most things.

No I did 1800 with Todd Payette for 3 months and I lost a shitload, down to 190, but you are right, it came right back on when I stopped!

Who can eat tuna and frozen veggies every meal!

Maybe you should have eaten more and lost more, haha.

freebirdmac

01-30-2010, 09:20 AM

90mg per 2 tbsp. Salted nuts probably were a big culprit.

Plus remember a few lbs of food was always in my system, now there is nothing in me except organs! lol

I also wonder what, if anything, taking thyroid meds has really done in this go round.

In my opinion the biggest difference this go around was eliminating cheats. One thing you should glean from this is how much and easily we can gain/retain water. Which messes with the mind when we weigh, measure, and look in the mirror.

gman

01-30-2010, 09:21 AM

My journal is a debate hotbed. All points of view are welcome!

The reason I lost this time is I didn't quit, this is the longest I have stuck with it and it worked. I just need this final push to get to my final goal...if not for this contest I would never do this low cal

Seriously I wonder if the T4/T3 I am taking is helping my metabolism to rev any faster. I am thinking it is overrated in that regard unless you don't need to take it and are just using it to cut.

I just remembered another big culprit...Franks Red Hot Sauce...like salt in a bottle. I used it on everything

freebirdmac

01-30-2010, 09:25 AM

My journal is a debate hotbed. All points of view are welcome!

The reason I lost this time is I didn't quit, this is the longest I have stuck with it and it worked. I just need this final push to get to my final goal...if not for this contest I would never do this low cal

Seriously I wonder if the T4/T3 I am taking is helping my metabolism to rev any faster. I am thinking it is overrated in that regard unless you don't need to take it and are just using it to cut.

It probably is a contributing factor. As are the changes to your workout routine and cardio. The biggest player as always is diet, being consistent, and sticking with it.

Bob45

01-30-2010, 09:31 AM

In my opinion the biggest difference this go around was eliminating cheats. One thing you should glean from this is how much and easily we can gain/retain water. Which messes with the mind when we weigh, measure, and look in the mirror.

You got that right. I am 228 in the morning and 235 in the afternoon on many days.

My journal is a debate hotbed. All points of view are welcome!

The reason I lost this time is I didn't quit, this is the longest I have stuck with it and it worked. I just need this final push to get to my final goal...if not for this contest I would never do this low cal

Seriously I wonder if the T4/T3 I am taking is helping my metabolism to rev any faster. I am thinking it is overrated in that regard unless you don't need to take it and are just using it to cut.

I just remembered another big culprit...Franks Red Hot Sauce...like salt in a bottle. I used it on everything

Cottage cheese has a lot of salt. You are losing fat too. My wife lost 30 pounds in 3 weeks and kept it off for years. Never worked out either. Some people just stump us with their ways.

gman

01-30-2010, 09:33 AM

It will all be seen whether it's working when I put up progress pics tomorrow

If it's fat, it should be obvious

Bob45

01-30-2010, 09:36 AM

It will all be seen whether it's working when I put up progress pics tomorrow

If it's fat, it should be obvious

Get closeups. Half legs half upper. You will look a lot bigger.

gman

01-30-2010, 09:40 AM

Get closeups. Half legs half upper. You will look a lot bigger.

I will try some stuff like that now that I am getting used to the tripod and timer.

Bob45

01-30-2010, 09:44 AM

I will try some stuff like that now that I am getting used to the tripod and timer.

I didn't know you had all that. That's good.

buckimscl

01-30-2010, 09:47 AM

Waiting on pics.

gman

01-30-2010, 09:48 AM

bucki, post 4576 has a crappy back shot I took in the mirror last night...if you really need a fix!! lol

buckimscl

01-30-2010, 09:57 AM

Just checking out the competition bro.....lol. Hey, we can't all have a back wide as all outdoors like your's truly. LOL

blu2xtreme

01-30-2010, 11:17 AM

It will all be seen whether it's working when I put up progress pics tomorrow

If it's fat, it should be obvious

More pics ...yeah :yep:

Just checking out the competition bro.....lol. Hey, we can't all have a back wide as all outdoors like your's truly. LOL

Love both my boys backs :drool::drool:

Asmolenski

01-30-2010, 02:04 PM

I tried to leanmy shoulders back a little like baldie suggested...seems to have made some muscles show up

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/photo_03.jpg

I think lower calories is going to work out great for you Mike. I can already see better definition and I dont think it is just your posing. People need to understand that as they lose weight they are going to lose lean mass even under the best of circumstances. Samir Bannout, Mr Olympia 1985, said that he would routinely cut his calories down to 1200 a day to get ready for a show. You are doing what you need to do for your individual metabolism and genetics and I think your results will speak for themselves. Keep up the hard work!

Dr Smo

http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/2002/SamirBannout2.jpg
Samir Bannout, Mr Olympia 1985

Bob45

01-30-2010, 02:08 PM

You are doing what you need to do for your individual metabolism and genetics and I think your results will speak for themselves. Keep up the hard work!

Dr Smo

Exactly! My metabolism is the same. I need low calorie to lose also.

Asmolenski

01-30-2010, 02:21 PM

Exactly! My metabolism is the same. I need low calorie to lose also.

For my first show I used the same conditioning coach that Mike was using. He basically gave us the same diet and routine. We both lost weight at first but then we reached a plateau. Mike eventually gave up. After several months of losing maybe a pound every 3 weeks or so my coach said to do more cardio etc. At one point I was doing 1 hour cardio twice a day and the weight loss still wasn't improving. The coach refused to lower my calories - I guess he must have thought I was cheating or something. Finally without telling him I cut back my caloires to about 1500 a day and I was finally able to lose about 2 pounds a week.

I have heard the same story from many other bodybuilders especially the natural ones who are not using clen, growth hormone, anabolics etc. The bottom line is that you have to do what works for you. Many well intentioned people will tell you not to lower calories and to do huge amounts of cardio etc but in the end you will know what you need to do.

Dr Smo

gman

01-30-2010, 03:31 PM

Thanks Allen, sometimes you have to do some low cal dieting. I cannot say it's enjoyable at all. But I did just go try on a pair of my older son's 32 jeans that he left here, and they fit pretty well. It's all worth it! I never thought I would be only 10lbs heavier than he is. Soon I will be 5 lbs heavier.

If you get a chance, we have a vitamin D discussion over on Anglican Beach Party's journal, might want to check and see if what I said you said about it is correct!

gman

01-30-2010, 06:16 PM

I have had my son's 32 jeans on all afternoon and do not have gangrene, so I think I can say I wear 32's now.

blu2xtreme

01-30-2010, 06:18 PM

I have had my son's 32 jeans on all afternoon and do not have gangrene, so I think I can say I wear 32's now.

You are worse then a girl:p

No pics ;)

gman

01-30-2010, 06:22 PM

no pics, the world's not ready to see that yet. A few more lbs maybe

blu2xtreme

01-30-2010, 06:29 PM

no pics, the world's not ready to see that yet. A few more lbs maybe

I'm sure we will see that pic by the end of the week :yep:

gman

01-30-2010, 06:36 PM

I'm sure we will see that pic by the end of the week :yep:

let's hope so.

I need to stop putting up so many pics. I am getting too vain.

blu2xtreme

01-30-2010, 06:39 PM

let's hope so.

I need to stop putting up so many pics. I am getting too vain.

You went way past the point ...weeks ago:p

I love the pics ...keep posting them;)

gman

01-30-2010, 06:44 PM

You know I will...can't stop now!

gman

01-31-2010, 08:05 AM

Day 1: 191.8
Day 2: 189.4 (-2.4)
Day 3: 187.2 (-4.6)
Day 4: 186.4 (-5.4)
Day 5: 187.4 (-4.4)

well I knew I would hit a wall, and I did.

GirlyMuscle

01-31-2010, 08:06 AM

Walls are made to bust through.

freebirdmac

01-31-2010, 08:08 AM

You didn't seriously think that trend would continue.

gman

01-31-2010, 08:24 AM

You didn't seriously think that trend would continue.

Why not, I am eating 2.5 days of calories per week?

Just kidding!

Plus I did nothing yesterday at all except walk to 7-11 with my son to get a coffee...a whopping 2/3 mile round trip!

gman

01-31-2010, 08:27 AM

Walls are made to bust through.

yeah, today I will drink twice as much water today and see if I can flush out some more!

At least get back to what I weighed yesterday!

Progress pics today, it will be interesting to see if anything looks better

freebirdmac

01-31-2010, 08:27 AM

Time to be creative Mike. Bodyweight exercises at home 2x day, play in the snow, find something to use as a jump rope, give a bathroom an extra heavy duty scrub down....

gman

01-31-2010, 08:32 AM

chores,......nooooooooooo

Bob45

01-31-2010, 08:50 AM

Time to be creative Mike. Bodyweight exercises at home 2x day, play in the snow, find something to use as a jump rope, give a bathroom an extra heavy duty scrub down....

Keeping really active sure does help. Hopefully you have the energy to do keep active. The psychological energy should do it!

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 08:53 AM

Time to be creative Mike. Bodyweight exercises at home 2x day, play in the snow, find something to use as a jump rope, give a bathroom an extra heavy duty scrub down....

Great ideas ... You are so smart Pam:)

remember Mike I told you about how my son built most of his mass
with bodyweight exercises... great idea

I hate chores too - I always save them for Sunday night

Bob45

01-31-2010, 09:06 AM

Great ideas ... You are so smart Pam:)

remember Mike I told you about how my son built most of his mass
with bodyweight exercises... great idea

I hate chores too - I always save them for Sunday night

Maybe he's doing them already? I suugested it a few weeks ago. They always helped me a lot.

DBowden

01-31-2010, 09:28 AM

I have had my son's 32 jeans on all afternoon and do not have gangrene, so I think I can say I wear 32's now.

Congratulations.

fatbackgoal

01-31-2010, 10:03 AM

Congrats on the pants. I am working my way down and nothing feels better than getting on a pair of pants that were once tight. Looking for something to do? Go run up Mt. Trashmore.

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 10:16 AM

Maybe he's doing them already? I suugested it a few weeks ago. They always helped me a lot.

It's Sunday ...I'm betting on shaving and progress pics
I know my coach to well:p

gman

01-31-2010, 10:59 AM

Congrats on the pants. I am working my way down and nothing feels better than getting on a pair of pants that were once tight. Looking for something to do? Go run up Mt. Trashmore.

I would if it was a nice day!

I did not work into a pair that were once tight...I have never worn 32 jeans...well maybe when I was 10!

gman

01-31-2010, 11:04 AM

the moment you have been waiting for...progress pics

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00583.jpg

gman

01-31-2010, 11:05 AM

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00590.jpg

gman

01-31-2010, 11:05 AM

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00589.jpg

gman

01-31-2010, 11:06 AM

still can't get back to show....I did lean back like Baldie said to and it did no good!
I look better in that bathroom lighting for some reason!

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00587.jpg

gman

01-31-2010, 11:06 AM

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00592.jpg

gman

01-31-2010, 11:07 AM

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00595.jpg

gman

01-31-2010, 11:10 AM

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00597.jpg

gman

01-31-2010, 11:12 AM

apologies to sergio oliva.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00602.jpg

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 11:13 AM

I have been waiting all morning;)

You need a better background - should of taken pics in the snow:p

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 11:14 AM

apologies to sergio oliva.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00602.jpg

I like this one :drool::drool::drool:

gman

01-31-2010, 11:18 AM

3 drools is pretty good right?

3 on a scale of 1-5...still have a way to go!

Baldiewonkanobi

01-31-2010, 11:18 AM

:yep:

Baldie

gman

01-31-2010, 11:19 AM

this one is really bad but I was trying to copy the one on the beginning of pumping iron when they were doing ballet lessons

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00601.jpg

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 11:22 AM

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00592.jpg

:drool::drool::drool::drool: When you get ab veins I'll give you 5

Baldiewonkanobi

01-31-2010, 11:23 AM

You need to tan nakie and get rid of those white lines. Also pull up the sides of your suit to give the effect of longer legs and shorter torso. Posing overall has greatly improved. Amazing progress...I'm terribly proud of you.

Baldie

freebirdmac

01-31-2010, 11:29 AM

You're looking bigger Mike!

fatbackgoal

01-31-2010, 11:34 AM

Looking good. A little color and you are set. Quads are looking real good.

Is that now the benchmark all are shooting for? Drools from Blu?

gman

01-31-2010, 11:34 AM

:drool::drool::drool::drool: When you get ab veins I'll give you 5

not sure if that will happen in 5 weeks, but that's good incentive!

You need to tan nakie and get rid of those white lines. Also pull up the sides of your suit to give the effect of longer legs and shorter torso. Posing overall has greatly improved. Amazing progress...I'm terribly proud of you.

Baldie

Thank you Baldie...I am tanning nakie now but it's taking a while to catch up. I will try to make sure the sides are pulled up...I am amazed how much taller I look now that I am lean...

You're looking bigger Mike!

Thanks, Pam.

gman

01-31-2010, 11:35 AM

Looking good. A little color and you are set. Quads are looking real good.

Is that now the benchmark all are shooting for? Drools from Blu?

I take drools from anyone! But especially from women, yeah that's my incentive.

gman

01-31-2010, 11:41 AM

I have been told time and again to smile and look happy while posing. I finally watched Pumping Iron and they rarely smiled when posing.

Bob45

01-31-2010, 11:47 AM

You do keep this journal very interesting! You are doing so good it's amazing. With proper lighting, distance and such you could even flatter yourself a lot more. The back pic is so far away and the lighiting is washing away a lot of cuts. When you do those close shots it looks so much better. I bet if you stood close and just got your back in same exact pose it would look 10 times better.

gman

01-31-2010, 11:49 AM

esplendido

01-31-2010, 12:00 PM

Mike, the problem with your abs is that you do not know how to pose them....or flex them, for that matter. My wife had the same problem...even with her thighs, and once she discovered how to flex them, they showed up in spades.

I can tell by your pics that you are not fexing them and especially not in a way that brings them out. Rookie mistake...no prob. Just buy my ticket to your town and I'll be there showing you how to be all you can be! I'll see you at the Arnold at least!

gman

01-31-2010, 12:05 PM

I can only flex them by scrunching down and then I slouch every where else! Show me befoe the contest and I will buy you a scotch

If I werent 15% bf , I wouldn't need to flex them so much!

Baldiewonkanobi

01-31-2010, 12:17 PM

Here Mike and I don't need a scotch. Example, while you are doing lets say a front double bi....pretend you are crapping out a brick...BEAR DOWN. Try it now....(no farting allowed)

Baldie

gman

01-31-2010, 12:25 PM

haha let me go look in the mirror while i do it. I will report back in a minute!

gman

01-31-2010, 12:32 PM

it works but it pushes my whole abdomen out a ways and makes me look fatter

gman

01-31-2010, 12:58 PM

like this baldie and rick? I can't do this while doing other stuff at the same time...need to work on it!

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/IMG_0439.jpg

jscan1

01-31-2010, 01:04 PM

the moment you have been waiting for...progress pics

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00583.jpg
Mike, Someone gave me this tip in the nat forum when doing your front double bi get your arms up a little higher it makes them look bigger and enhance the x a bit. Your legs are killing it by the way

gman

01-31-2010, 01:14 PM

Mike, Someone gave me this tip in the nat forum when doing your front double bi get your arms up a little higher it makes them look bigger and enhance the x a bit. Your legs are killing it by the way

thanks jscan...yeah I need to bring the elbows up and close down so my hands are almost to my ears...really have to concentrate!

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 01:32 PM

like this baldie and rick? I can't do this while doing other stuff at the same time...need to work on it!

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/IMG_0439.jpg

Wow... Mike you are getting close to that 5;)

gman

01-31-2010, 01:35 PM

need to see that without flexing for a 5 blu

Mac

01-31-2010, 01:41 PM

your new avitar looks great. move the couch next time.

Mac

01-31-2010, 01:42 PM

gman

01-31-2010, 01:47 PM

your new avitar looks great. move the couch next time.

Thanks, MT

I am too weak to lift it..... :hypno:

gman

01-31-2010, 01:48 PM

you said you had no f'n abs. wtf is that i see. You're learning how to pose them!

the lighting has to be perfect but at least I can get some to show!

bcapprentice

01-31-2010, 02:34 PM

MIke:
You look more and more like a bodybuilder! Now if I could only keep up with you!
Michael

gman

01-31-2010, 03:09 PM

MIke:
You look more and more like a bodybuilder! Now if I could only keep up with you!
Michael

Thanks Michael...are you getting some good progress so far with Sean?

gman

01-31-2010, 03:10 PM

for you Bob

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00616.jpg

gman

01-31-2010, 03:13 PM

for baldie and rick...my wife said I was slouching when I was trying to flex my abs in the front double bi

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00617.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010-1-31%20progress%20pics/DSC00618.jpg

joedemarco

01-31-2010, 03:17 PM

Bob45

01-31-2010, 03:19 PM

It does look much better doesn't it? For the most muscular try crossing your forearms and bring out the chest striations. For the abs put your hands behind your head and crunch them. The poses are fun when there is stuff there aren't they? I don't even bother the way I look at this point.

gman

01-31-2010, 03:39 PM

Hey Mike, just checking in. Great pic updates. By the way, don't worry about flexing the abs on the front double bi. It's not a pose to show off the abs. In fact, trying to squeeze the abs will make you look thinner. Instead of flexing the abs, you want the chest up and out.

Thanks for the tips Joe. I am going to really study the poses from here on out. Still not sure what we have to do for Dave at this contest. But I need to know how to pose for my real show in August!

It does look much better doesn't it? For the most muscular try crossing your forearms and bring out the chest striations. For the abs put your hands behind your head and crunch them. The poses are fun when there is stuff there aren't they? I don't even bother the way I look at this point.

It does look a lot better up close, Bob.

It is getting more fun now that I can see a little bit of muscle.

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 05:27 PM

Your back looks great ...Bucki better watch out :p

gman

01-31-2010, 05:30 PM

bucki is big...big always wins.

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 06:23 PM

Glad you fixed your Avi ...it was driving be crazy ...and not in a good way;)

gman

01-31-2010, 06:25 PM

Glad you fixed your Avi ...it was driving be crazy ...and not in a good way;)

I hope it's a better crazy now.

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 06:42 PM

I hope it's a better crazy now.

Is crazy ever really good:hypno:

gman

01-31-2010, 06:46 PM

Is crazy ever really good:hypno:

you need to answer that...you said crazy-not in a good way, which implies there is a good way.

I am a geek, remember.

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 06:48 PM

you need to answer that...you said crazy-not in a good way, which implies there is a good way.

I am a geek, remember.

I re-thought it and having your avi drive me crazy in a good way implies it effects me in a bad way that is good:confused:

gman

01-31-2010, 06:49 PM

I am so confused...who is the real geek here?

freebirdmac

01-31-2010, 06:55 PM

Please I have you both beat when it comes to geekiness :D

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 06:58 PM

Please I have you both beat when it comes to geekiness :D

I doubt anyone is more geeky then coach
but he is lovable:hmn:

gman

01-31-2010, 07:02 PM

Please I have you both beat when it comes to geekiness :D

that's debatable. But I will gracefully allow you to have the mantle.

I doubt anyone is more geeky then coach
but he is lovable:hmn:

there might be a person...my son.

freebirdmac

01-31-2010, 07:43 PM

Hmmm, math, science, computers... Did you run ethernet in your house pre wireless days? Run a switch to a server to do NAT to avoid paying for extra connections? Use pure HTML coding (no wysiwyg) to create a website 13 years ago? Know FORTRAN? Use a prosumer cam only on manual? Attend a Photoshop workshop? Have about every new geeky gadget that comes out?

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 07:47 PM

gman

01-31-2010, 07:49 PM

esplendido

01-31-2010, 07:53 PM

I can only flex them by scrunching down and then I slouch every where else! Show me befoe the contest and I will buy you a scotch

If I werent 15% bf , I wouldn't need to flex them so much!

You don't need to scrunch down. You just need to 'flex' them by contracting them independently from other muscle. You should be able to do that with every muscle. You can practice anywhere, anytime, sitting or standing.

Imagine someone is about to hit you in the stomach. What is your first reaction? That's right! You tighten up your abs. Now you can do that while not only standing erect (no scrunching) but you should be able to do it with shoulders back and chest out.

Once you learn individual muscle control. you'll be able to do any pose and flex whatever muscles are necessary to show that pose off.

esplendido

01-31-2010, 07:55 PM

BTW, Did you see that my last post was #4700 in this thread? You are one important sumbich, Mikey :-)

gman

01-31-2010, 07:59 PM

You don't need to scrunch down. You just need to 'flex' them by contracting them independently from other muscle. You should be able to do that with every muscle. You can practice anywhere, anytime, sitting or standing.

Imagine someone is about to hit you in the stomach. What is your first reaction? That's right! You tighten up your abs. Now you can do that while not only standing erect (no scrunching) but you should be able to do it with shoulders back and chest out.

Once you learn individual muscle control. you'll be able to do any pose and flex whatever muscles are necessary to show that pose off.

when i tighten them they don't show. that's why I scrunched them, it was the only way I can get them to show!

I am horrible at the muscle contracting. Like I said somewhere else on here, I can't even flex one pec without flexing the other. It doesn't come naturally to me that's for sure!

gman

01-31-2010, 08:00 PM

BTW, Did you see that my last post was #4700 in this thread? You are one important sumbich, Mikey :-)

everyone loves me for some weird reason.

blu2xtreme

01-31-2010, 09:45 PM

everyone loves me for some weird reason.

I haven't figured that out yet ...but it is true
you are loved:)

gman

02-01-2010, 06:50 AM

I haven't figured that out yet ...but it is true
you are loved:)

It's my constant state of helplessness. People just have to try to fix me!

gman

02-01-2010, 06:50 AM

I forgot to weigh this morning before eating and drinking a big glass of water, but I did measure my waist at 34 5/8. that's the important number anyway....only 3-4 more inches to go!

Baldiewonkanobi

02-01-2010, 07:46 AM

Mike...everyone loves a project. :hugme:

Baldie

Baldiewonkanobi

02-01-2010, 07:47 AM

and and and when you succeed we will all lay claim to you.....:)

Baldie

Bob45

02-01-2010, 08:25 AM

and and and when you succeed we will all lay claim to you.....:)

Baldie

Yeah, I did it! Hahaha

Mac

02-01-2010, 09:11 AM

freebirdmac

02-01-2010, 09:17 AM

I can beat ALL of that. :yep:

My name should be MacGeek.

Yep. I've been out of the coding business for a long time. I only deal with IT issues on the periphery these days too.

Bob45

02-01-2010, 09:48 AM

Yep. I've been out of the coding business for a long time. I only deal with IT issues on the periphery these days too.

Have you ever watched The Big Bang Theory?

Mac

02-01-2010, 10:01 AM

Yep. I've been out of the coding business for a long time. I only deal with IT issues on the periphery these days too.

It's a lot more than just writing code that is the geek in me. ;)

freebirdmac

02-01-2010, 10:11 AM

Have you ever watched The Big Bang Theory?

Nope

It's a lot more than just writing code that is the geek in me. ;)

I know!
I never could figure out the difference between a geek and a nerd.

Mac

02-01-2010, 10:18 AM

I know!
I never could figure out the difference between a geek and a nerd.

Nerds are never the bodybuilder type but may be in the geek category.

gman

02-01-2010, 10:24 AM

Mike...everyone loves a project. :hugme:

Baldie

and and and when you succeed we will all lay claim to you.....:)

Baldie

Yeah, I did it! Hahaha

lol...I had nothing to do with it at all..

Actually I don't care who claims me as long as I make it!

gman

02-01-2010, 10:24 AM

geeks are a step above nerds in the scheme of things Pam.

gman

02-01-2010, 10:33 AM

got a late start today, so had an abbreviated workout

Squats with feet close together (never do it like this...I will try to do it more often): 15/135
12/185 9/205 8/205

Stiff leg dead lifts: 12/185 10/225 8/245 5/265 (went heavy on these for me)

Leg extensions: 170 4 sets of 10

30 minutes at 115bpm on exercise bike

Baldiewonkanobi

02-01-2010, 11:36 AM

Have you ever watched The Big Bang Theory?

Yes, it got :p:p:p:p:p in the 18 and Over Forum.

Baldie

kicker

02-01-2010, 12:06 PM

Hey Mike. You're doing great. Keep practicing your posing every day. It will help burn more calories and give you more endurance for it. Best of luck man!

Mike

blu2xtreme

02-01-2010, 02:55 PM

lol...I had nothing to do with it at all..

Actually I don't care who claims me as long as I make it!

I'd claim you anyday coach ... You are inspiring :)

gman

02-01-2010, 06:29 PM

I'd claim you anyday coach ... You are inspiring :)

I try hard to be an inspiration. Especially to other people our age who never lifted in their younger days. It can be done!

I think I have an advantage in a lot of ways. I have young ligaments and joints since I didn't grind them away all my life!

gman

02-01-2010, 06:31 PM

I have to admit I cracked a little.

1 cup oatmeal for breakfast
1 cup of plain yogurt with blueberries after lifting
1 cup of lowfat cottage cheese for lunch
1 cup of plain yogurt for snack
1 cup of oatmeal again
10 almonds

way over budget so far.

Baldiewonkanobi

02-01-2010, 06:35 PM

40gm protein. Don't over do it cowboy.

Baldie

freebirdmac

02-01-2010, 06:51 PM

gman

02-01-2010, 08:21 PM

40gm protein. Don't over do it cowboy.

Baldie

actually it is 66g of proteing

add the 8 oz chicken breast I just had, and it's now140g

not a lot but better than 40! lol

blu2xtreme

02-01-2010, 08:23 PM

Hey coach ...It's chest day :)

gman

02-01-2010, 08:24 PM

Heh. My body gets royally pissed without sufficient carbs. It's an all over kind of achey, bad feeling. Like my cns is yelling at me. I can handle hunger and it's side effects. I cannot handle that cns pissed off feeling. It's awful.

I am the opposite...can handle no carbs

cannot handle hunger well.

I didn't end up too bad actually, just 300 above normal

1,396 45.5 102.3 140.5

blu2xtreme

02-01-2010, 08:53 PM

I actually need food now:dunno:

Thanks for the workout just got it:)

freebirdmac

02-01-2010, 08:56 PM

I can't stop eating tonight myself.

gman

02-01-2010, 09:21 PM

me either, just had cocoa roast almonds

this sucks ass.

blu2xtreme

02-01-2010, 10:08 PM

me either, just had cocoa roast almonds

this sucks ass.

Hey I just bought some too
we can all eat too much together
I love togetherness:)

gman

02-01-2010, 10:21 PM

Hey I just bought some too
we can all eat too much together
I love togetherness:)

I wish I hated food sometimes. I lost my taste for alcohol years ago for no good reason. But the food just won't stop.

blu2xtreme

02-01-2010, 10:23 PM

I wish I hated food sometimes. I lost my taste for alcohol years ago for no good reason. But the food just won't stop.

I use to hate food ...you and Pam ruined it for me :p

buckimscl

02-01-2010, 10:32 PM

Checking in Mike. Hope all is well. We will talk later in the week if you want.

kimm4

02-02-2010, 01:36 AM

Just saying hello Mike. :)

gman

02-02-2010, 05:42 AM

I use to hate food ...you and Pam ruined it for me :p

we are evil, aren't we?

Checking in Mike. Hope all is well. We will talk later in the week if you want.

Cool, I would love to catch up and whine with you about this bullshit.

Just saying hello Mike. :)

Hey Kim, thanks for coming by!

gman

02-02-2010, 05:43 AM

Day 1: 191.8
Day 2: 189.4 (-2.4)
Day 3: 187.2 (-4.6)
Day 4: 186.4 (-5.4)
Day 5: 187.4 (-4.4)
Day 6: did not weigh
Day 7: 187.2 (-4.6)

lucky I stayed at 187.2 considering that I had a lot of carbs yesterday, and did not blow up on water weight.

freebirdmac

02-02-2010, 08:19 AM

That's a lot to lose in one week. And I'm betting it wasn't all water :)

Bob45

02-02-2010, 09:04 AM

gman

02-02-2010, 09:06 AM

You mean you cheated or you just had carbs instead of protein?

ate too much food. ended up at 2000 or so at least

Bob45

02-02-2010, 09:42 AM

Maybe you needed one day up. Just get right back to the plan.

gman

02-02-2010, 10:09 AM

yeah. going well today so far. I need to bust ass.

gman

02-02-2010, 10:11 AM

Chest today

Pushups on upside down bosu ball: 42 28 22 23

BB bench: 14/135 9/185 6/185 7/185

Incline bb press: 13/135 9/155 7/155 5/155

Cybex fly machine: 4 sets

Low to high cable flys: 4 sets

40 minutes of cardio

blu2xtreme

02-02-2010, 10:15 AM

Have a great day Coach Mike :hmn:

gman

02-02-2010, 10:17 AM

Have a great day Coach Mike :hmn:

Thanks Paula. Is today rest or back?

Bob45

02-02-2010, 11:35 AM