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Bob45
02-02-2010, 03:06 PM
Make it nice and hard
:)
I just love when women say this.
I just love when women say this.
I really was working....now I can't concentrate
blu2xtreme
02-02-2010, 03:45 PM
I just love when women say this.
I really was working....now I can't concentrate
You boys are way to easy;)
You boys are way to easy;)
what man isn't?
freebirdmac
02-02-2010, 09:48 PM
You have years to gain back mass you may have lost on this cut :)
You have years to gain back mass you may have lost on this cut :)
I kind of like being skinny though!:p
Seriously, I don't mind...whatever happens is cool. If I need to gain mass back, I will enjoy having that problem!
blu2xtreme
02-02-2010, 10:08 PM
I kind of like being skinny though!:p
Seriously, I don't mind...whatever happens is cool. If I need to gain mass back, I will enjoy having that problem!
Lean Bulk time :yep:
imagine you just as lean with more mass...I can:drool:
Lean Bulk time :yep:
imagine you just as lean with more mass...I can:drool:
can't lean bulk until I get way lean!
but I do plan on trying to do it someday
fatbackgoal
02-02-2010, 10:45 PM
I think a bulk is in order after the Arnold. Just hang outside your contest weight about 15 pounds and you will be fine.
I think a bulk is in order after the Arnold. Just hang outside your contest weight about 15 pounds and you will be fine.
I am at the limit now fbg! 15 above contest weight
Back day
3/4 hanging deAds: 10/225 6/295 6/315 4/335
cybex pulldown: 8/250 7/250 10/240 9/240
t bar machine no bar weight: 4/115 6/115 6/115 6/115
underhand bb rows: 5/205. 8/185 6/185 7/185
close grip underhand chins: 10 7 7 6
db shrugs: 100 lb DBS 14 12 12 13
in middle of 45 cardio
kimm4
02-03-2010, 08:09 AM
Back day
3/4 hanging deAds: 10/225 6/295 6/315 4/335
cybex pulldown: 8/250 7/250 10/240 9/240
t bar machine no bar weight: 4/115 6/115 6/115 6/115
underhand bb rows: 5/205. 8/185 6/185 7/185
close grip underhand chins: 10 7 7 6
db shrugs: 100 lb DBS 14 12 12 13
in middle of 45 cardio
Looks solid Mike, have a great day! :)
freebirdmac
02-03-2010, 08:58 AM
I kind of like being skinny though!:p
Seriously, I don't mind...whatever happens is cool. If I need to gain mass back, I will enjoy having that problem!
Noooo!! Not fat. Mass as in lean muscle! You are going to learn how to do it without gaining a bunch of unnecessary fat :D
Bob45
02-03-2010, 09:33 AM
Another good strong workout Mike. I like these a lot better than the circuits. Fight to keep all the muscle you can!
blu2xtreme
02-03-2010, 11:22 AM
Thanks for the back workout - I worked hard for you coach
Have a great day:)
buckimscl
02-03-2010, 11:27 AM
Noooo!! Not fat. Mass as in lean muscle! You are going to learn how to do it without gaining a bunch of unnecessary fat :D
I know what you mean Free but when you've been overweight (see Bucki) the concept of bulking is a nervous thing. :)
Shadow
02-03-2010, 11:36 AM
Back day
3/4 hanging deAds: 10/225 6/295 6/315 4/335
cybex pulldown: 8/250 7/250 10/240 9/240
t bar machine no bar weight: 4/115 6/115 6/115 6/115
underhand bb rows: 5/205. 8/185 6/185 7/185
close grip underhand chins: 10 7 7 6
db shrugs: 100 lb DBS 14 12 12 13
in middle of 45 cardio
Hanging deads?
Hanging deads?
yeah, don't know what to call them...deadlifts but not all the way down to the floor. 3/4 of the range, but not off a rack
Shadow
02-03-2010, 11:55 AM
yeah, don't know what to call them...deadlifts but not all the way down to the floor. 3/4 of the range, but not off a rack
Ah. Only other time I saw that was in a Branch Warren vid over on MD.
freebirdmac
02-03-2010, 12:33 PM
I know what you mean Free but when you've been overweight (see Bucki) the concept of bulking is a nervous thing. :)
I get that. Bulking is a bad term. Maybe "maintenance plus a little"? :)
Mike, you may have seen this over on that other site. It's what I was pointing out in regard to cortisol and stress from low carbs.
(European Journal Applied Physiology, in press; published online December 20, 2009)
Anthony Hackney and colleagues from the University of North Carolina found that a lower-carbohydrate (30 percent) diet, compared to a higher-carb (60 percent) diet, reduced the testosterone-to-cortisol ratio. In the lower-carb diet, the free testosterone dropped 36.1 percent and the cortisol increased by 14.8 percent!
Studies have shown that low-carb and ketogenic diets increase the stress hormone, cortisol. Intense exercise is a form of stress and in a glycogen-depleted state, will further exacerbate cortisol levels and enhance the suppression of testosterone.
Athletes should make sure they eat adequate amounts of carbohydrates on a daily basis, especially post-exercise, to enhance recovery from high-intensity training and to maintain optimum testosterone levels.
freebirdmac
02-03-2010, 12:40 PM
Mike, you may have seen this over on that other site. It's what I was pointing out in regard to cortisol and stress from low carbs.
(European Journal Applied Physiology, in press; published online December 20, 2009)
Anthony Hackney and colleagues from the University of North Carolina found that a lower-carbohydrate (30 percent) diet, compared to a higher-carb (60 percent) diet, reduced the testosterone-to-cortisol ratio. In the lower-carb diet, the free testosterone dropped 36.1 percent and the cortisol increased by 14.8 percent!
Studies have shown that low-carb and ketogenic diets increase the stress hormone, cortisol. Intense exercise is a form of stress and in a glycogen-depleted state, will further exacerbate cortisol levels and enhance the suppression of testosterone.
Athletes should make sure they eat adequate amounts of carbohydrates on a daily basis, especially post-exercise, to enhance recovery from high-intensity training and to maintain optimum testosterone levels.
Yikes! And I thought 30% was moderate :eek:
At 60% your carbs and fats will really suffer. Were the subjects on a low protein diet?
Interesting...I don't think it's universal though...my body has fairly low sex hormone binding globulin, so my free testosterone is always above normal on TRT...even when my pre-TRT testosterone was only 280, my free T was mid range normal.
all this on fairly low carb diet.
my 24 hour saliva test for cortisol was all in normal range as well.
Interesting...I don't think it's universal though...my body has fairly low sex hormone binding globulin, so my free testosterone is always above normal on TRT...even when my pre-TRT testosterone was only 280, my free T was mid range normal.
all this on fairly low carb diet.
my 24 hour saliva test for cortisol was all in normal range as well.
When were these tests taken, just recently?
Yikes! And I thought 30% was moderate :eek:
At 60% your carbs and fats will really suffer. Were the subjects on a low protein diet?
I would like to point out that even though 30% for carbs is not really that low compared to his keto dieting.
I guess their protein was low if they had 60% carbs.
When were these tests taken, just recently?
Yes, in late December.
I would like to point out that even though 30% for carbs is not really that low compared to his keto dieting.
I guess their protein was low if they had 60% carbs.
I have been un keto for a little over a week now.
I do not feel any different. I expected to feel better eating oatmeal and yogurt.
I just got selected to be an over 40 transformation of the week on the old site we used to frequent more.
I just got selected to be an over 40 transformation of the week on the old site we used to frequent more.
Good for you. It will hopefully inspire others after seeing your excellent results.
freebirdmac
02-03-2010, 06:57 PM
I just got selected to be an over 40 transformation of the week on the old site we used to frequent more.
Congrats Mike!!!
tifflex
02-03-2010, 07:05 PM
I just got selected to be an over 40 transformation of the week on the old site we used to frequent more.
Congratulations! Now you get to order more supps:yep:!
blu2xtreme
02-04-2010, 01:25 AM
Great job Mike ...I told you that you were an amazing inspiration
I am so proud of you :)
Good for you. It will hopefully inspire others after seeing your excellent results.
Congrats Mike!!!
Congratulations! Now you get to order more supps:yep:!
Great job Mike ...I told you that you were an amazing inspiration
I am so proud of you :)
Thanks, guys! I will get a $50 credit, so I might try some fancy protein powder or something with it!
I really hope to inspire other average people to do their best, I hope people actually read the transformations. To be honest, it is pretty convoluted just to find them on that site!
Baldiewonkanobi
02-04-2010, 06:12 AM
Now that fame and fortune has stuck our boy will he ever be the same? We sure hope so.
All kidding aside...I am proud of you....you deserve the recognition.
Baldie
Bob45
02-04-2010, 09:24 AM
Congratulations Mike! One contest won and you didn't even know you were getting in it. Did you?
Now that fame and fortune has stuck our boy will he ever be the same? We sure hope so.
All kidding aside...I am proud of you....you deserve the recognition.
Baldie
I am getting a big ego now, can't you tell?
Congratulations Mike! One contest won and you didn't even know you were getting in it. Did you?
I knew, Dr Smo suggested I give it a shot a while back, and I finally sent an email to enter. They answered within 5 minutes.
shoulder day
walked today, first time in a while, 40 minutes to the Y
Bent over reverse flys: 12/50 14/50 10/55 9/55
Wide upright bb rows: 12/75 11/75 12/75 12/75
standing bb shoulder press, no backwards lean: 8/115 5/115 5/115 4/115 (weak as shit on these, always have been)
Cable laterals: 10/50 x 4
BB Front raises: 12/75 10/75 10/75 12/75
30 minutes on exercise bike
2 more miles walk tonight
esplendido
02-04-2010, 10:04 AM
Mike, you may have seen this over on that other site. It's what I was pointing out in regard to cortisol and stress from low carbs.
(European Journal Applied Physiology, in press; published online December 20, 2009)
Anthony Hackney and colleagues from the University of North Carolina found that a lower-carbohydrate (30 percent) diet, compared to a higher-carb (60 percent) diet, reduced the testosterone-to-cortisol ratio. In the lower-carb diet, the free testosterone dropped 36.1 percent and the cortisol increased by 14.8 percent!
Studies have shown that low-carb and ketogenic diets increase the stress hormone, cortisol. Intense exercise is a form of stress and in a glycogen-depleted state, will further exacerbate cortisol levels and enhance the suppression of testosterone.
Athletes should make sure they eat adequate amounts of carbohydrates on a daily basis, especially post-exercise, to enhance recovery from high-intensity training and to maintain optimum testosterone levels.
This is from MD, whose owner has a hard-on for Dave and has done everything he can to discredit Dave's approach to dieting.
Something else, the keto diet is most effective while the dieter is on HRT or AAS which mitigates any low test issues.
Mike, are you not on my diet any longer? what's with the yogart?
axioma
02-04-2010, 10:18 AM
This is from MD, whose owner has a hard-on for Dave and has done everything he can to discredit Dave's approach to dieting.
Something else, the keto diet is most effective while the dieter is on HRT or AAS which mitigates any low test issues.
Mike, are you not on my diet any longer? what's with the yogart?
'dido, training for Masters? I would love to get your feedback on some of my posts, haven't heard from ya. You are part of the reason I am posting here. Also, love to hear your feedback on my MD vs. Rx posting question.
This is from MD, whose owner has a hard-on for Dave and has done everything he can to discredit Dave's approach to dieting.
Something else, the keto diet is most effective while the dieter is on HRT or AAS which mitigates any low test issues.
I didn't know that Mike was on HRT.
AnglicanBeachParty
02-04-2010, 12:18 PM
Mike, are you not on my diet any longer? what's with the yogart?
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
not on any diet at the moment. Can't control it any more
But seriously, I had intentions of going ultra low cal for 21 days straight to lose 10-15 lbs. This was a diet my chiro, who is a national level bodybuilder put me on. But it's too damn hard to eat this low. I can't take it.
blu2xtreme
02-04-2010, 12:34 PM
not on any diet at the moment. Can't control it any more
But seriously, I had intentions of going ultra low cal for 21 days straight to lose 10-15 lbs. This was a diet my chiro, who is a national level bodybuilder put me on. But it's too damn hard to eat this low. I can't take it.
Your lucky coach that you just added the last part
I was about to fly out there and beat your ass.
You got this thing ...finish it babe:yep:
I am not eating bad, just not as low as he wanted.
Rick, I did switch diets. I thought you saw in my journal a few pages back.
blu2xtreme
02-04-2010, 01:00 PM
I am not eating bad, just not as low as he wanted.
Rick, I did switch diets. I thought you saw in my journal a few pages back.
Didn't see it ...I took most of the day off yesterday from the forum.
this was over a week ago, Paula, I believe Wednesday of last week!
blu2xtreme
02-04-2010, 01:11 PM
this was over a week ago, Paula, I believe Wednesday of last week!
Never mind ...I got lost - I knew about Ricks change - then TJ's then I thought you meant you changed back to ricks:dunno:
I haven't eaten yet today - I think I need more coffee and food
I need a brain transplant. I am probably the typical noob at this stuff.
Bob45
02-04-2010, 01:42 PM
not on any diet at the moment. Can't control it any more
But seriously, I had intentions of going ultra low cal for 21 days straight to lose 10-15 lbs. This was a diet my chiro, who is a national level bodybuilder put me on. But it's too damn hard to eat this low. I can't take it.
I used to eat heads of lettuce with no calorie dressing. Other things with no calories too. Just to fill me up. I won't get into the middle of what other advice you are getting. Too much different advice will drive you crazy. Good luck Mike. I know you have plenty of other things going on too.
I am thinking cucumber sliced up with vinegar.
20 cal per cucumber.
I used to eat heads of lettuce with no calorie dressing.
I did this too, except with no dressing. It worked to stave off the hunger for a little while.
joedemarco
02-04-2010, 01:59 PM
Mike, here's my 2 cents (whether you want it or not...lol). Next time you prep for a contest, hire one coach and just follow everything they tell you. Don't question it, don't ask others for advice, etc. You can drive yourself crazy getting advice from 20 different people.
Just follow the plan from your trainer. If the contest prep is a success great. You use that person again. If the contest prep is a bomb, then you switch trainers for your next show.
The constant changing of your diet plan, and listening to all these people, is not a path for success.
There, told you I was going to give you my 2 cents whether you wanted it or not. By the way, Best of Luck! No one wants to see you hit your goals more then me!
It never hurts to listen to the opinions and experiences of all these people.
But definitely stick to a plan.
esplendido
02-04-2010, 02:43 PM
Well Mike, I'm disappointed. Not that you didn't follow my diet but that you've admitted defeat. Oh well, you'll never know the joy of arriving at your goal thru extreme sacrifice. You do look better than you ever have, so cudos to that effort!
Bob45
02-04-2010, 02:53 PM
So what is the plan now if you have one Mike? I think everyone is pretty psyched to see you get through this. I know I am. Are you just having a bad couple days?
Baldiewonkanobi
02-04-2010, 03:16 PM
Mike, what you have accomplished is laudable. We all seek validation...perhaps the BB.com transformation thing you earned is just that. It came early,weeks prior to reaching the finish line. Good thing/not such a good thing. Time will tell. I know when I am finished with a show and the lights go down its like an amazing pressure being lifted from me. At times I have chocked back tears. What you have been going thru placed you in an elite group. Competetive Bodybuilders. Remember you are never more than one meal away from recommitment and membership in Good Standing.
Brother Baldie
tifflex
02-04-2010, 03:17 PM
I am thinking cucumber sliced up with vinegar.
20 cal per cucumber.
Sugar free jello; 5 cals and 1 carb per container:drool:!
esplendido
02-04-2010, 03:21 PM
'dido, training for Masters? I would love to get your feedback on some of my posts, haven't heard from ya. You are part of the reason I am posting here. Also, love to hear your feedback on my MD vs. Rx posting question.
I've kept a low profile here because of my decision to leave the post of forum leader. I've only posted here occasionally because I love you masters and because I feel responsible to those competing in the Rx challenge, which I started.
I am training for the Masters Nationals, yes. PM me and I'll tell you more.
Thanks everyone, I really have not given up, honestly!
I have learned Joe's lesson. To just get one person to help and do whatever they say. I am really considering not even doing a journal after Columbus. i have a tendency to agree with everyone and it drives me crazy!
To repeat, I have not given up. I am lifting hard and doing my cardio.
I will list what I had yesterday so you guys can know I did not "cheat" in the classic sense:
1 cup oatmeal with 1/2 tbsp of butter and splenda
during the day I had 2 cups of cottage cheese and 2 cups of plain yogurt, along with 1/4 cup of almonds.
at home last night I had 2 oz of chicken breast, 2 eggs and 1 cup of egg whites, and 2 scoops of whey, 1 tbsp of pb and 2tbsp of sugar free chocolate syrup, and 1/4 cup of almonds
Not low enough cals, but I did not go to Burger King and get two double whoppers at least!
I have done much better today. More protein and less carbs the rest of the way to Columbus. Lower the fat down pretty good, like Rick suggested.
Don't give up on me yet!
I plan on never going above 185 again unless I juice someday (that's a joke)...then contest prep won't be this much of an ordeal. It should not take 20 weeks to cut for a show. I am 16 weeks in, and still am 15 lbs from stage ready, minimum.
For my first show in August I want to be 180-185 when I start show prep...will only need to lose 10-15 lbs the whole time instead of 45 like I had to this time
blu2xtreme
02-04-2010, 04:01 PM
I plan on never going above 185 again unless I juice someday (that's a joke)...then contest prep won't be this much of an ordeal. It should not take 20 weeks to cut for a show. I am 16 weeks in, and still am 15 lbs from stage ready, minimum.
For my first show in August I want to be 180-185 when I start show prep...will only need to lose 10-15 lbs the whole time instead of 45 like I had to this time
This was your lucky 7777 post so you will be stage ready for August
and We all know you will keep a journal - we are you support and second family - just do what you have to do:yep:
freebirdmac
02-04-2010, 05:44 PM
I haven't given up on you and I won't. I'll pester you no matter what you do :D
And I didn't think you had given up either.
This was your lucky 7777 post so you will be stage ready for August
and We all know you will keep a journal - we are you support and second family - just do what you have to do:yep:
I have no doubt I will be stage ready by August...by columbus, I have lowered my sights to being 10% bf if I can. I need to lose about 5-6 lbs to do that. I need to weigh 186, and I am probably 191-2 on the official doctor scale right now.
I haven't given up on you and I won't. I'll pester you no matter what you do :D
And I didn't think you had given up either.
I love being pestered...I am weird that way
partsRheavy
02-04-2010, 07:02 PM
I haven't been on the site for several days, but when I saw your new avvy, I was amazed!!!!! You oughta still show up in Columbus!!!!
Don't give up!!!!
P.S. This is Granny speaking. She says, "Think about all those people who are hungry in Haiti. Maybe save a little food for them as motivation." :-)
I haven't been on the site for several days, but when I saw your new avvy, I was amazed!!!!! You oughta still show up in Columbus!!!!
Don't give up!!!!
P.S. This is Granny speaking. She says, "Think about all those people who are hungry in Haiti. Maybe save a little food for them as motivation." :-)
Wouldn't miss Columbus for anything...besides, I already paid for the trip and I am a cheapskate
Thanks for the compliments...I am vain and they keep me going!
Great food day
1 c oatmeal
1 c cottage cheese
1.5 c plain yogurt and 1 oz almonds
1 c oatmeal
6 oz chicken breast, 4 c lettuce, 2 tbsp olive oil vinaigrette and 1/4 c almonds
2 scoops whey, 1tbsp pb 2 tbsp sugar free choc syrup
Wouldn't miss Columbus for anything... !
Glad to hear that. Stay the course Mike. I hope to be able to meet you and the rest of the RX Masters crew.
blu2xtreme
02-04-2010, 10:11 PM
Glad to hear that. Stay the course Mike. I hope to be able to meet you and the rest of the RX Masters crew.
The only reason I am going is to see Mike and Bucki and the other guys do this ...so he had better be there.
Looking forward to meeting all the Masters crew also:)
I wish I had not somehow given the impression I was quitting. Nothing was further from my mind than that!
blu2xtreme
02-04-2010, 10:22 PM
I wish I had not somehow given the impression I was quitting. Nothing was further from my mind than that!
I know that but I have to give you a hard time ...it's just how I am:p
I know that but I have to give you a hard time ...it's just how I am:p
you are a brat sometimes, I will give you that.
I am pretty mad this morning...I looked up the 2010 Lenda Murray Classic to see exactly when it is. It is not in August like it always has been. It's on July 24th, the same damn day as the NPC Masters in Pittsburgh, so I will miss Baldie.
It also means a very short offseason for me before I contest diet again, which really sucks. I get most of March and half of April, then I have to start this shit all over again on April 16, right after tax season is over!
weight is up to 190.4....waist 35.5 again. must drink more water and eat better. It's only 4 weeks out, I can do this
this journal is going to get very boring, because I am listing every meal on here to keep me honest
eating 1 cup of oatmeal with 1 scoop of chocolate ON WPI right now
GirlyMuscle
02-05-2010, 05:50 AM
Gman, I'm gonna be brutally honest. I did keto for 28 weeks for my contest prep. I thought I could slowly add in carbs without the post contest rebound and not gain. I was wrong. I gained 15 pounds in the first 3 weeks. Then another 15 pounds in the 2-3 weeks after that. That's how keto is. Once you go off, you gain. Period. You're gonna gain at least 10 pounds before Columbus if you insist on adding the carbs back in.
So is this it? Are you happy with where you are? Or are you gonna fight til the end? If you're gonna fight then get back on that keto wagon. And watch that rebound when Columbus is over.
OK, Erin...not the end. I came this far, and I will keep fighting. That was my last carb! I can't say adding the carbs has done anything for me mentally or physically...I certainly do not feel stronger in the gym or anything like that.
I won't be happy until my waist measures 32 at the navel...that's 20 lbs at least. So I better get going
Baldiewonkanobi
02-05-2010, 05:55 AM
Diet smiet fukit. I want to see that snowman on your lawn Sunday morning. I hear the Virginia shores are getting their first real snow in decades Saturday night. My vote is to make him look like that fat ass gnome Al Gore. :p
Baldie
Diet smiet fukit. I want to see that snowman on your lawn Sunday morning. I hear the Virginia shores are getting their first real snow in decades Saturday night. My vote is to make him look like that fat ass gnome Al Gore. :p
Baldie
you forget what part of virginia we live in. We are going to get 100%, 40degree rain here. Everywhere west of us is going to get a blizzard.
GirlyMuscle
02-05-2010, 06:00 AM
Good. No more carbs. Stick to the plan. Back to ketosis. It's only 4 more weeks.
Don't focus on a number at this point. Just do all you can do and get as close to that goal as you can.
Little secret...about 6 weeks out I gave up....mentally. Looking back, I can see that now and I wish to god I hadn't. Don't do that to yourself, Mike. Go all the way and do all you can. No regrets!
Good. No more carbs. Stick to the plan. Back to ketosis. It's only 4 more weeks.
Don't focus on a number at this point. Just do all you can do and get as close to that goal as you can.
Little secret...about 6 weeks out I gave up....mentally. Looking back, I can see that now and I wish to god I hadn't. Don't do that to yourself, Mike. Go all the way and do all you can. No regrets!
Meat, eggs and egg whites for 4 weeks...there could be a worse fate!
Too bad I can't eat tuna any more, so I will have to find a substitute. Had no idea my mercury level was high. Glad I found that out!
GirlyMuscle
02-05-2010, 06:33 AM
Canned chicken then instead of tuna. I like it more.
Baldiewonkanobi
02-05-2010, 06:39 AM
Meat, eggs and egg whites for 4 weeks...there could be a worse fate!
Too bad I can't eat tuna any more, so I will have to find a substitute. Had no idea my mercury level was high. Glad I found that out!
Mike I stayed hard on the Keto strip with a large all leafy greens only salad at night with Balsamic vinegar and olive oil. Celery sticks and raw P nutts P nutt butter. Well...only 2. Buffalo burger pattys, chicken breasts, roast turkey, baked Cod, eggs, a shrimp or two, fish oil caps....about 6-8 per day, 2 Animal Paks, coffee out the ying yang, water water water, psyllium husks, and sugar free gum for Dragon Breath. Weekly treat was a HUGE New York steak. :drool: Mike did that for one year with one Leptin load every 2 weeks. Bet I lost 45 pounds fat and gained 10 in muscle. Was I misserable....a bit.
Now Mike this was ME. You have your seperate marching orders from your 'guide'. FOLLOW ;)
Baldie
Baldie
Canned chicken then instead of tuna. I like it more.
Got to find a special somewhere! or just cook more.
Mike I stayed hard on the Keto strip with a large all leafy greens only salad at night with Balsamic vinegar and olive oil. Celery sticks and raw P nutts P nutt butter. Well...only 2. Buffalo burger pattys, chicken breasts, roast turkey, baked Cod, eggs, a shrimp or two, fish oil caps....about 6-8 per day, 2 Animal Paks, coffee out the ying yang, water water water, psyllium husks, and sugar free gum for Dragon Breath. Weekly treat was a HUGE New York steak. :drool: Mike did that for one year with one Leptin load every 2 weeks. Bet I lost 45 pounds fat and gained 10 in muscle. Was I misserable....a bit.
Now Mike this was ME. You have your seperate marching orders from your 'guide'. FOLLOW ;)
Baldie
I will be fine Baldie. I think I am just freaking out too much like I tend to do.
Arm day. No cardio this morning, will go this evening and do it
Incline bench tricep extensions with a db in each hand: 10/45 13/40 12/45 10/45
Cybex tri extension machine: 8/110 7/110 9/105 8/105
Single db standing tricep extensions: 6/80 8/75 7/75 5/75
Preacher curl 21's with EZ Bar: 65lbs total weght. 2 sets all the way through, set 3 died after rep 4 of final 7; set 4 died after rep 5 of final 7
BB curls, held hands closer together, so had to lighten weight, still had to cheat a little:
4/115 6/115 4/115 6/115
1 hand cable curls: 7/60 9/60 7/60 9/50
the guy who writes my workouts was pissed when I told him my abs have not yet been sore from doing ab work, which is true, very little soreness whatosever even though I had never done much abs and started 2 weeks ago doing them once a week.
Decline crunches holding medicine ball, start with arms extended overhead and reach the ball to feet as you crunch up: 16 12 11
Ab roller: 16 13 15
Cable crunch: 25/130 20/150 17/170
Cable crunch: 25/130 20/150 17/170
Try and use more weight on these to the point where you can get 6 - 8 reps.
Try and use more weight on these to the point where you can get 6 - 8 reps.
will try, problem is our crossover sucks...200 is the highest "weight" and I am almost there already! will try next time to use 200 all 3 sets
Hang a weight off the pin. A couple tens or 25 should be no problem from the bottom of the rack.
The one in the gym I train at now stops at 150. WTF. So I routinely use the above technique. Much more than 175 and I start going upwards vs. crunching the weight down.
Cool, see you geeks know all the tricks!
I hope my abs are sore this time, they sure hurt doing the exercises.
Another good exercise is wood chops. Don't know if that's the right name, but it works for me.
Take a rope from the top of the cable, stand at 90 degrees, pull with one had to start the movement, then push with the other as you bring the cable across the front of your body.
The rope twists as you transfer from pulling and then pushing using the intercostals.
Repeat from the other side.
This really helped bring out that deep grove in the center of my abs.
that sounds like a good one, MT!
I was worried about doing the side to side things because my waist is already really wide
35.5 at the navel really sucks.
Those will actually help the waist look smaller as it will detail the intercostals.
do I actually have some of those??????
It's funny, the ab wheel exercise seems to be very easy for me and I don't know why...most people cringe when they talk about the ab wheel.
I was worried about doing the side to side things because my waist is already really wide
.
No, I don't do these at all.
When doing the wood chops you are twisting in the torso, and not at the hips.
It's funny, the ab wheel exercise seems to be very easy for me and I don't know why...most people cringe when they talk about the ab wheel.
It's because their core muscles and back are weak, and it hurts.
It's because their core muscles and back are weak, and it hurts.
I guess I am proving that squats and deads made my core pretty strong because this is only the 3rd ab training I have done. 3 straight weeks after months and months of none.
fatbackgoal
02-05-2010, 12:33 PM
Mike you are going great. Don't start overthinking things. Remember the line from Bull Durham..." Dont think it can only hurt"
Keep up your great progress you are on your way!!!
I guess I am proving that squats and deads made my core pretty strong
Most definitely. Your legs prove you put in the work as well.
Baldiewonkanobi
02-05-2010, 01:02 PM
No, I don't do these at all.
When doing the wood chops you are twisting in the torso, and not at the hips.
My body wants to grow damn Obliques. Its everything I can do to concentrate on Serratus ind Intercostals and NOT involve the Obliques. I do decline crunches with one hand on the Intercostals as I do a half twist with my other hand touching the opposite knee. I can feel the action I want this way. I flex and hold at the top.
Baldie
Mike you are going great. Don't start overthinking things. Remember the line from Bull Durham..." Dont think it can only hurt"
Keep up your great progress you are on your way!!!
Thanks, FBG....I stopped thinking today at 9am...I am just doing.
Most definitely. Your legs prove you put in the work as well.
Actually mom and dad gave me those! You would be surprised how easy I train on leg day. At least it seems easy compared to guys on here.
My body wants to grow damn Obliques. Its everything I can do to concentrate on Serratus ind Intercostals and NOT involve the Obliques. I do decline crunches with one hand on the Intercostals as I do a half twist with my other hand touching the opposite knee. I can feel the action I want this way. I flex and hold at the top.
Baldie
I won't understand any of this until I lose 15 more lbs and can actually see what I have.
meals today.
1 cup oatmeal 1 scoop whey
2 scoops whey 1.5tbsp pb
2 scoops whey 1.5 tbsp pb
need to cook a lot this weekend and go shopping.
tifflex
02-05-2010, 01:28 PM
meals today.
1 cup oatmeal 1 scoop whey
2 scoops whey 1.5tbsp pb
2 scoops whey 1.5 tbsp pb
need to cook a lot this weekend and go shopping.
I agree:). I found that eating whole food helps with satiety and boredom.
I do have 6 pre boiled eggs in the fridge, but that's 375 calories...too many for one meal. I am thinking of eating 3 at 3pm and 3 at 6 pm
this forecast for tomorrow makes me sick...the east coast just to our north and west is getting a blizard and we get
Day: Rain. High 44F. Winds N at 34 mph. Air Quality: NA, UV Index: 1
Shadow
02-05-2010, 01:49 PM
this forecast for tomorrow makes me sick...the east coast just to our north and west is getting a blizard and we get
Day: Rain. High 44F. Winds N at 34 mph. Air Quality: NA, UV Index: 1
:p
...
I hate living here so much, you have no idea.
Summer is miserable, winter is even worse, spring sucks because it is so changeable.
Fall is beautiful
here is a cool video about the gym I want to join someday, maybe will this summer: I have heard from competitors that it is one of the best gyms in the country. brian Siders is featured in some of the clips...you can do bodybuilding style lifting there as well
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1203520368067&ref=nf
blu2xtreme
02-05-2010, 02:38 PM
Great looking gym ...you should do it Mike
You only live once - enjoy it a little :)
Great looking gym ...you should do it Mike
You only live once - enjoy it a little :)
Gotta grow some and do what I want for once.
My son at UVA, a mere 150 miles from here just texted me.
24+ inches of snow expected.
We get friggin rain. A travesty!
It was insane in that video watching a175 lb guy squat 500 +- lbs
blu2xtreme
02-05-2010, 02:45 PM
Gotta grow some and do what I want for once.
You have grown in so many ways - you will get where you need to
It was insane in that video watching a175 lb guy squat 500 +- lbs
There were some crazy strong people in that video - would love to watch that stuff one day
Shadow
02-05-2010, 03:10 PM
My son at UVA, a mere 150 miles from here just texted me.
24+ inches of snow expected.
We get friggin rain. A travesty!
Tell him to send you pics. It's snowing so hard it looks like rain.
joedemarco
02-05-2010, 03:27 PM
Heard the storm is missing us here in Boston...:)...no one is happier then me....no shoveling this weekend!
Heard the storm is missing us here in Boston...:)...no one is happier then me....no shoveling this weekend!
I would love to shovel. Too much to ask to get snow two weekends in a row in Va Beach, though. We got 3x our average annual snowfall last weekend ,6"
Meals today
1 c oatmeal, 1 scoop whey
2 scoops whey, 1.5 tbsp of pb
2 scoops whey, 1.5 tbsp of pb
3 boiled eggs
3 boiled eggs
will have chicken and salad tonight.
With bucki dropping out and no sign of Matt...ABP FBG and I are the only ones left for sure.
I see no point in this whatsoever now. Dave P would be stupid to even have it now.
So what are we all going to do on Friday!?
I needed to lose fat anyway, so it wasn't a waste of time...plus I will get to see all my friends that are showing up
joedemarco
02-05-2010, 06:28 PM
Why did Bucki drop out?
shoulder injury, just posted in his journal. I hope it isn't bad and just needs rest!
OK, now that I have recovered from the shock...I am going to try even harder now than I have been. I shouldn't need a contest to make me get lean anyway! It's all been worth it, I have learned a lot about myself and have made some good friends while doing it.
Plus there are so many people I know showing up in Columbus, it will be a blast no matter what. I plan on stripping down to my posing trunks at the booth whether there is a contest or not. Be forewarned!
freebirdmac
02-05-2010, 07:03 PM
OK, now that I have recovered from the shock...I am going to try even harder now than I have been. I shouldn't need a contest to make me get lean anyway! It's all been worth it, I have learned a lot about myself and have made some good friends while doing it.
Plus there are so many people I know showing up in Columbus, it will be a blast no matter what. I plan on stripping down to my posing trunks at the booth whether there is a contest or not. Be forewarned!
Now that's a bodybuilder!!! :yep:
baker
02-05-2010, 07:34 PM
Hi Mike!
I would love to shovel.
There is 6" of heavy wet snow here. I just shoveled the driveway, so show up early in the AM please as they are forecasting another 6" over night.
AnglicanBeachParty
02-05-2010, 09:19 PM
Wow, I'm kind of blown away to think the Challenge would be cancelled. I wouldn't have entered my NPC contest 3 weeks after the Arnold (and going back on my word to my wife) if it hadn't been for the Arnold Master's Challenge.
I guess if she doesn't kill me first, I will be in Columbus too!
With bucki dropping out and no sign of Matt...ABP FBG and I are the only ones left for sure.
I see no point in this whatsoever now. Dave P would be stupid to even have it now.
Plus there are so many people I know showing up in Columbus, it will be a blast no matter what. I plan on stripping down to my posing trunks at the booth whether there is a contest or not. Be forewarned!
I'm getting a mixed message from these two quotes. Are you saying there will be no Challenge, but you are just going to strip down and pose in front of the Species booth? Are you going to get spray-tanned?
If the Challenge is really off, then I need to see if I can get at least part of my tanning money back. Not sure on their cancellation policy ... wow, suddenly the whole world has turned upside down!
no one knows anything about the challenge other than Dave told me about 3-4 weeks ago that it would be held.
I told him only 5-6 people at that time, but that those who were still in it were pretty serious, and he said we would do it.
I have no idea if he finds out there are only 2-4 people what he would do. No one knows what we have to do at the contest: mandatories, just standing there and looking pretty or who knows what!
I am showing up in posing trunks under my clothing and will strip down at the Species booth whether the contest is on or not!
GirlyMuscle
02-05-2010, 10:10 PM
I think he'll have it even if one person shows up.
I think he'll have it even if one person shows up.
I was telling someone that today...he probably will give us all a big prize just for persevering! I have met him and I just feel like he is that type of person.
AnglicanBeachParty
02-05-2010, 11:12 PM
I have no idea if he finds out there are only 2-4 people what he would do. No one knows what we have to do at the contest: mandatories, just standing there and looking pretty or who knows what!
Ummm ... we're gonna tell him, right?
Do you want me to PM Dave?
Ummm ... we're gonna tell him, right?
Do you want me to PM Dave?
That would be fantastic, ABP. I don't even know who has our before pics now. I need that before pic to be seen so I have a chance to win!
AnglicanBeachParty
02-06-2010, 09:35 AM
That would be fantastic, ABP. I don't even know who has our before pics now. I need that before pic to be seen so I have a chance to win!
We sent them to Bucki, right?
As I recall, there were going to be 2 parts to the contest: 1) Most Improved, and 2) Best Conditioning. Is that what you recall also?
When I PM Dave, how many should I tell him are still "in"?
I guess if you and I show up, something will happen. It only takes 2 to have a posedown ...
We sent them to Bucki, right?
As I recall, there were going to be 2 parts to the contest: 1) Most Improved, and 2) Best Conditioning. Is that what you recall also?
When I PM Dave, how many should I tell him are still "in"?
I guess if you and I show up, something will happen. It only takes 2 to have a posedown ...
I recall the same thing about the 2 parts.
I know the pics went to Esplendido originally and he was going to make lifesize cardboard cutouts for us to stand next to. I guess he sent the pics to Bucki, I am not sure.
I am in, you are in, Matt?, FBG?, BigDaddyD?
so only 2 for sure
I read in Paula's thread about her not eating when stressed. I have determined that I am the exact opposite. I eat twice as much when I am stressed. I just think it's interesting how we all react differently to stress. I will just go eat stuff and I feel like I am watching someone else eat, it doesn't hardly register that I am eating or that I am full.
Weird, huh?
blu2xtreme
02-06-2010, 11:07 AM
I read in Paula's thread about her not eating when stressed. I have determined that I am the exact opposite. I eat twice as much when I am stressed. I just think it's interesting how we all react differently to stress. I will just go eat stuff and I feel like I am watching someone else eat, it doesn't hardly register that I am eating or that I am full.
Weird, huh?
Hey coach - I will try to eat - I can't undo all the hardwork I have done with your help.
Hope everything will work out in Columbus for you guys. Still looking forward to meeting everyone and I really will need a weekend away by then:)
I will kick your butt if you don't eat. You know it's working, you are stronger and starting to recomp already in just a short time!
buckimscl
02-06-2010, 11:25 AM
Mike and all, I sent the original pics that you sent me back to each of the people I recd. them from.
AnglicanBeachParty
02-06-2010, 11:50 AM
I read in Paula's thread about her not eating when stressed. I have determined that I am the exact opposite. I eat twice as much when I am stressed. I just think it's interesting how we all react differently to stress. I will just go eat stuff and I feel like I am watching someone else eat, it doesn't hardly register that I am eating or that I am full.
Weird, huh?
That's my tendency also.
Mike and all, I sent the original pics that you sent me back to each of the people I recd. them from.
Got 'em; THANKS!
I am having some stomach problems today for some weird reason. Hope to still do cardio after work.
My meals are good today.
4 eggs and a low carb tortilla
1.5 cups of cottage cheese, 2 tbs of pb
2 scoops of whey, 1 tbsp of pb
Noticed a bias against low fat cottage cheese, and am wondering the theory behind the bias.
It is pretty low carb and is slow digesting type protein, but seems to be out of favor for cutting.
Noticed a bias against low fat cottage cheese, and am wondering the theory behind the bias.
It is pretty low carb and is slow digesting type protein, but seems to be out of favor for cutting.
I ate 4% cottage cheese every day when I was at my most conditioned.
It was my favorite bed time snack.
freebirdmac
02-06-2010, 02:27 PM
I am having some stomach problems today for some weird reason. Hope to still do cardio after work.
My meals are good today.
4 eggs and a low carb tortilla
1.5 cups of cottage cheese, 2 tbs of pb
2 scoops of whey, 1 tbsp of pb
Noticed a bias against low fat cottage cheese, and am wondering the theory behind the bias.
It is pretty low carb and is slow digesting type protein, but seems to be out of favor for cutting.
There's lots of uncalled for bias against dairy when cutting. Even when not doing keto.
I can't understand it...it has the same macros as whey almost
1 % cottage cheese, 1.5 cups:
245 cals
3g f
42g p
9g c
2 scoops of Metrx Whey
240 cals
4g f
44g p
6g c
almost identical
Some people can't drink milk. Others may have a reaction to cottage cheese, I don't know.
While caloric count is only one indicator of food content, it does not imply that you will absorb those amount of calories.
freebirdmac
02-06-2010, 02:53 PM
It's one of those things that just get passed from person to person as truth.
Some people can't drink milk. Others may have a reaction to cottage cheese, I don't know.
While caloric count is only one indicator of food content, it does not imply that you will absorb those amount of calories.
It's one of those things that just get passed from person to person as truth.
Thanks, guys. Unless proven wrong, I will eat some once a day...I like having some with walden farms cal free choc syrup mixed in!
Thanks, guys. Unless proven wrong, I will eat some once a day...I like having some with walden farms cal free choc syrup mixed in!
WTF :dunno: that just sounds nasty. It's probably great stuff.
freebirdmac
02-06-2010, 03:07 PM
Isn't that like "sludge"?
WTF :dunno: that just sounds nasty. It's probably great stuff.
just takes a little drizzle, tastes pretty good. A handful of crushed peanuts is good in there with the chocolate too with it if you aren't cutting!
Isn't that like "sludge"?
not sure, I thought sludge was whey, peanut butter and berries...Paula might know!
Dale, my son who is home for a while from college due to some depression issues, just wrote his latest poem...he had been playing World of Warcraft pretty much all the time, so I am glad he did this. It popped up on my Facebook since I am friends with him on there:
It is just entitled "Sonata"
Si j'avais qu'une bouche pour dire de bons mots-
Une bouche de miel dont la voix peut chanter
Des larmes, des sourires, l'hiver et l'été -
Je les chanterais pas; chanterais que des sots
Et des sottises, des bêtises toutes faites pour l'Amour -
Soit l'Amour aperçue, soit l'Amour bien réelle.
Chanterais l'idiot qui cherche l'idéale,
Et son but qui l'évase, et l'évite toujours.
Mais je chanterais aussi un espoir immortel
Que ressent l'idiot en poursuivant son idée -
Que ressent chaque jour un trouvère actuel;
Chanterais des obstacles que nul peut surmonter,
Mais, que, jour après jour ce même idiot
Ne cessera jamais d'affronter.
his translation was in another posting:
If I had but a mouth to speak good words -
A silver tongue whose voice could sing
Of tears and smiles, of winter and summer-
I would not sing of them; I would sing only of fools
And foolishness, and idiocy all done for Love -
Be it real, or perceived.
I would sing of the idiot seeking the Ideal
And of his goal that constantly evades him.
But I would also sing of an undying hope
That that fool feels in chasing his idea -
That a modern troubadour feels each day.
I would sing of obstacles that none can overcome,
But that each day that same fool
Never ceases (nor will cease) to confront.
He amazes me sometimes, he really does. I wonder which he did first? The French one, then translated to English. Or vice versa?
blu2xtreme
02-06-2010, 04:20 PM
That is beautiful Mike - he is very talented
It made me cry more then a little ...but I am a little weepy today
That is beautiful Mike - he is very talented
It made me cry more then a little ...but I am a little weepy today
I just messaged him to make sure he wrote it! I am pretty sure he did, and it's so good, I want to show him off. Need to be safe though before I do!
It is his best one yet
Baldiewonkanobi
02-06-2010, 04:23 PM
Enter sugar free :drool: JELLO :drool:
4 large servings 40 calories. You will burn more than 40 cal just making the jello.
Baldie
I just heard back...he wrote it in French first, then translated it into English
The boy is just so talented.
blu2xtreme
02-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Scivation version of sludge is whey / small amount of water/pb/frozen blueberries ....I live on this , I do add cottage cheese if I needed more cals
that sounds so good...hmmm...it's time for meal 4. But I have no berries.
Baldiewonkanobi
02-06-2010, 05:34 PM
Talented son...le fruit ne tombe pas loin de l'arbre
Baldie
AnglicanBeachParty
02-06-2010, 07:52 PM
That would be fantastic, ABP. I don't even know who has our before pics now. I need that before pic to be seen so I have a chance to win!
I sent a PM to Dave Palumbo regarding the Masters Challenge. I will let you know what I hear back.
AnglicanBeachParty
02-06-2010, 08:55 PM
I sent a PM to Dave Palumbo regarding the Masters Challenge. I will let you know what I hear back.
Here was Dave's reply:
THe SMALLEY BROTHERS are running the stage show so even if it's only YOU, we'll have the posedown and give out prizes.
With that in mind, I'll be showing up, as I'm sure you will Mike, and I hope some others will still come!
Bob45
02-07-2010, 09:28 AM
I missed a lot yesterday being sick. I wouldn't tell anyone how many people are in the show. If there are only two than you have first or second place! Not sure if I can make it to the show now. I have to move my aunt to Florida around the same time.
So your son is a poet and you didn't even know it. He is talented.
Here was Dave's reply:
With that in mind, I'll be showing up, as I'm sure you will Mike, and I hope some others will still come!
Wouldn't miss it!
I missed a lot yesterday being sick. I wouldn't tell anyone how many people are in the show. If there are only two than you have first or second place! Not sure if I can make it to the show now. I have to move my aunt to Florida around the same time.
So your son is a poet and you didn't even know it. He is talented.
Hope it works out so you can come, Bob. If not, we will have drink in your honor!
blu2xtreme
02-07-2010, 10:28 AM
Good Morning Mike ...did you get any good movies in yet this weekend:p
Good Morning Mike ...did you get any good movies in yet this weekend:p
Worked and went to watch UFC pay per view yesterday, so not much time for movies.
I believe I have caught some weird virus. all day yesterday and today I have had mild diarrhea and a spltting headache. I did 30 min of cardio today and felt like a bus had run over me.
On an unrelated topic, once again my abs are not sore two days after pounding them...kinda has me worried.
I mean just doing the ab roller for 3 sets of 15 should have me in agony today.
freebirdmac
02-07-2010, 04:04 PM
Hope you feel better soon Mike!
Hope you feel better soon Mike!
Thanks, Pam
Headache gone after a nap...the other thing is still going on.
Congrats to the Saints. I was pulling for them because of Darren Sharper, a graduate of my alma mater, William & Mary
Oldsuperman
02-07-2010, 10:12 PM
I believe I have caught some weird virus. all day yesterday and today I have had mild diarrhea and a spltting headache. I did 30 min of cardio today and felt like a bus had run over me.
On an unrelated topic, once again my abs are not sore two days after pounding them...kinda has me worried.
I mean just doing the ab roller for 3 sets of 15 should have me in agony today.
DIARRHEA!!! NOW THAT'S A DIET THAT WILL TAKE THE POUNDS OFF!! :no:
Yikes Popps...not the healthiest way to lose weight!
I am staying home form work today and going to try to sleep a lot and see if it helps.
It's not like stomach flu where you spend 24/7 on the toilet. But I am definitely infected with something. Wiped out, headache, stomach cramps, etc.
I couldn't have squatted the bar hardly today, so I am glad I didn't try.
no fever, the armpit thermometer registered 96.7. I think you add a degree, not sure. Even then only 97.7
Get well soon there Mikey.
blu2xtreme
02-08-2010, 09:05 AM
Yikes Popps...not the healthiest way to lose weight!
I am staying home form work today and going to try to sleep a lot and see if it helps.
It's not like stomach flu where you spend 24/7 on the toilet. But I am definitely infected with something. Wiped out, headache, stomach cramps, etc.
I couldn't have squatted the bar hardly today, so I am glad I didn't try.
I feel about the same today...did you send it to me :(
Wish I was just laying around resting today too.
Feel better coach:)
Bob45
02-08-2010, 09:09 AM
I've been sick the past couple days too. No fun.
It's the leftovers from Football fever. That's why I am not sick.
See what happens Blu when you stare at a bunch of guys in tight pants!
Get well soon there Mikey.
Thanks, MT
I feel about the same today...did you send it to me :(
Wish I was just laying around resting today too.
Feel better coach:)
I hope I didn't accidentally give it to you over cyberspace but who knows
I've been sick the past couple days too. No fun.
hope it gets better soon, Bob
I am so cold right now. Laying in bed with flannel sheet, wool blanket, and a comforter and I am still freezing
blu2xtreme
02-08-2010, 09:17 AM
It's the leftovers from Football fever. That's why I am not sick.
See what happens Blu when you stare at a bunch of guys in tight pants!
I think it's still worth it;)
Just checked the weather in Columbus ...it's 7 degrees :hypno:
I am going to freeze to death - not sure my body can handle those temps
freebirdmac
02-08-2010, 09:25 AM
Drink, drink, drink Mike!
Hmm, freezing cold points to a fever. Even low grade.
I know Pam. Wonder why my temp registers so low?
fatbackgoal
02-08-2010, 10:10 AM
I think it's still worth it;)
Just checked the weather in Columbus ...it's 7 degrees :hypno:
I am going to freeze to death - not sure my body can handle those temps
There will be so much bodyheat from the number of people in the expo you will be fine. Plus when Mike drops down to posing trunks the place will catch on fire!!
blu2xtreme
02-08-2010, 10:18 AM
There will be so much bodyheat from the number of people in the expo you will be fine. Plus when Mike drops down to posing trunks the place will catch on fire!!
I think you have that right ...Mike in blue trunks:drool::drool:
Feel better Mike ...your fans are looking forward to seeing you ripped;)
freebirdmac
02-08-2010, 10:26 AM
I know Pam. Wonder why my temp registers so low?
Well for one thing I'd use an oral thermometer. If you have taken any fever reducing meds you can still have fever symptoms without a temp. I've had some of the worse chills just under 100 degrees.
AnglicanBeachParty
02-08-2010, 03:02 PM
I hope you are feeling better soon, gman!
Bob45
02-08-2010, 06:28 PM
Well for one thing I'd use an oral thermometer. If you have taken any fever reducing meds you can still have fever symptoms without a temp. I've had some of the worse chills just under 100 degrees.
Were you thinking ATM?
There will be so much bodyheat from the number of people in the expo you will be fine. Plus when Mike drops down to posing trunks the place will catch on fire!!
Yeah, right!
I think you have that right ...Mike in blue trunks:drool::drool:
Feel better Mike ...your fans are looking forward to seeing you ripped;)
feeling a little better already
Well for one thing I'd use an oral thermometer. If you have taken any fever reducing meds you can still have fever symptoms without a temp. I've had some of the worse chills just under 100 degrees.
don't have one Pam...but I never did get warm today. Feeling better now though, a little
I hope you are feeling better soon, gman!
Thanks ABP
Were you thinking ATM?
No comment
Well I slept or dozed most of the day under a flannel sheet, wool blanket, comforter, and cotton blanket and still couldn't get warm.
I didn't drink much, 2 diet sierra mists and a glass of water.
My meals were strange, the keto stuff was not appetizing at all during the day. I had 1 1/2 c of plain yogurt for 2 meals, then a coffee mug of cereal for another meal. In the past hour and a half my apetite has really come back. I had 5 scrambled eggs with parmesan at 6, and am eating a protein shake with peanut butter right now.
I always say if you feel like eating you must be getting better.
blu2xtreme
02-08-2010, 08:18 PM
Hopefully being hungry is a sign of you feeling better ...the stomach flu going around Vegas is a hard hitting but quick deal.
I feel better tonight so my tummy issues had to be stress related.
Thanks for thinking of me coach even during your illness and sending me a easy workout:)
Not sure I am out of the woods, I just passed out for an hour again. I hope I can sleep tonight since I have slept most of the day today.
I am sweating now too...don't know what that means
esplendido
02-08-2010, 10:15 PM
Well I slept or dozed most of the day under a flannel sheet, wool blanket, comforter, and cotton blanket and still couldn't get warm.
I didn't drink much, 2 diet sierra mists and a glass of water.
My meals were strange, the keto stuff was not appetizing at all during the day. I had 1 1/2 c of plain yogurt for 2 meals, then a coffee mug of cereal for another meal. In the past hour and a half my apetite has really come back. I had 5 scrambled eggs with parmesan at 6, and am eating a protein shake with peanut butter right now.
I always say if you feel like eating you must be getting better.
How in Hades are you getting cut on those carbs?????? If you're gonna play Russian Roulette, you put ONE bullet in the gun....not take one out!
I was hungry and didn't want to eat meat, bro
throwing up is not on my list of things that I like to do
damn, get the fucking stomach flu and get shit for eating carbs
blu2xtreme
02-08-2010, 10:18 PM
How in Hades are you getting cut on those carbs?????? If you're gonna play Russian Roulette, you put ONE bullet in the gun....not take one out!
Well he did poop a bunch out:hypno:
sorry for snapping, I should have just not eaten anything.
Well he did poop a bunch out:hypno:
you have no idea, and it's showing no sign of stopping either :confused:
hang in there Mike!
I will!
honestly guys, I went to a UFC party on Saturday and Super Bowl party on sunday and ate no carbs at all...I am not eating carbs as a rule now, but when your fucking stomach is churning, eating tuna, chicken, peanut butter,almonds, etc just is not appealing at all.
I know better now, I should have just gone 18 hours with no food
blu2xtreme
02-08-2010, 10:35 PM
honestly guys, I went to a UFC party on Saturday and Super Bowl party on sunday and ate no carbs at all...I am not eating carbs as a rule now, but when your fucking stomach is churning, eating tuna, chicken, peanut butter,almonds, etc just is not appealing at all.
I know better now, I should have just gone 18 hours with no food
I wouldn't stress over it ...as a medical pro ...I still think it's better to get some food in you so you get better faster and get back to training and cutting
me stress, whatever gave you that idea.;)
I should have gone and trained too I guess.
blu2xtreme
02-08-2010, 10:41 PM
me stress, whatever gave you that idea.;)
I should have gone and trained too I guess.
Well I did that ...and was sick for twice as long
so resting is a good idea
I do know I feel horrible that I couldn't train today, and I probably won't train tomorrow either. That will make 4 straight days. I did 30 min of cardio on Sunday and that's it.
slept straight through the night, so I slept about 20 hours yesterday. I am still tired but I feel a lot better. I am not going to the gym, but I think I can make it at work. I will go for a while and see how I feel.
I promise I won't eat carbs.
AnglicanBeachParty
02-09-2010, 08:12 AM
slept straight through the night, so I slept about 20 hours yesterday.
GREAT! Glad to hear you could still sleep.
GREAT! Glad to hear you could still sleep.
I am too...it was much needed I am sure.
Still having the tummy issues, but I feel pretty good. I even want coffee, but am afraid to drink it.
I don't think I ever had this version before, where one end was ok and the other wasn't
freebirdmac
02-09-2010, 08:42 AM
Your health comes first Mike. Eat what you can no matter what it is. It surely won't be much until your system recovers. The last thing it wants is hard to digest food which is why the BRAT diet is suggested (bananas, rice, applesauce, and tea).
I've had that version many times. The bugger is when you feel hungry, eat, and rebound. I'd only worry about keeping your electrolytes in balance. Gatorade G2 - low cal only has 5g carbs. Throw in some BCAAs.
Your health comes first Mike. Eat what you can no matter what it is. It surely won't be much until your system recovers. The last thing it wants is hard to digest food which is why the BRAT diet is suggested (bananas, rice, applesauce, and tea).
I've had that version many times. The bugger is when you feel hungry, eat, and rebound. I'd only worry about keeping your electrolytes in balance. Gatorade G2 - low cal only has 5g carbs. Throw in some BCAAs.
It's so funny, Pam...I am really hungry now. That's why I thought I must be getting better. The eggs were so good tasting. I ate some again today for breakfast.
I will take it easy on the food though to make sure I can deal with it.
I am also very thirsty so I will drink more water today.
thanks for the advice. If I get a chance I will get some of that low cal G2. Maybe they carry it at CVS next door.
Bob45
02-09-2010, 09:21 AM
Glad you are getting better. There was no way I could eat high protein meals after puking this weekend. I was lucky to eat anytthing. You just have to get something down for some strength.
Glad you are getting better. There was no way I could eat high protein meals after puking this weekend. I was lucky to eat anytthing. You just have to get something down for some strength.
I am so glad I didn't get the puking this time. I would rather die than throw up.
Baldiewonkanobi
02-09-2010, 09:52 AM
WTF is going on out there? Told you all DO NOT EAT YELLOW SNOW. Made you all sick did'nt it?
Kids :confused:
Baldie
WTF is going on out there? Told you all DO NOT EAT YELLOW SNOW. Made you all sick did'nt it?
Kids :confused:
Baldie
haha, as if...we didn't get any snow. Well actually, we did get a dusting, but not enough to eat!
I think this flu might have been a blessing in disguise. I think I am going to be able to diet easier the rest of the way with this shock to my system.
I had 4 eggs today and nothing since. I figure since I have been a sloth for 4 days, I don't need to eat much.
will have protein powder in a few minutes
HeavyDutyGuy
02-09-2010, 01:49 PM
Sorry to hear you got sick. Seems like its going around, at least on this board, lol.
doing much much better today. I almost feel good enough to go train after work. maybe I will!
For Rick, keto enough for you today so far? lol
1,042 c
46.6 f
24.0 c
130.1 p
just ate meal 4, a 12 oz can of white meat chicken....now really going full bore on the keto
1,362 cal
55.6 f
24.0 c
184.1 p
esplendido
02-09-2010, 03:56 PM
Sorry, Mike....I didn't read back far enough to see that you were eating while sick. I want to see you succeed. Nothing more than that. I shut up now.....
Sorry, Mike....I didn't read back far enough to see that you were eating while sick. I want to see you succeed. Nothing more than that. I shut up now.....
I apologize to you as well...I am stressed out for several reasons, this contest being one of them.
I know you are trying to look out for me Rick!
I need to push for the last 24 days, just to say I did my best. I haven't been doing well for a couple of weeks and it shows in my pics which I am afraid to post. At best, I have tread water.
Tax season is grinding me down. missing a day of work is like missing a week in the summer! I always stress out about this time every year, it is so overwhelming.
To top it all off, got a call from the rental agent for my property in Kitty Hawk that I co own with my jr high school buddy. A ring of thieves has been operating in the area, and broke in our house and stole the fridge and stove, and busted out a window. None of this is covered by our insurance, and this is the time of year we have no cash coming in.
I was thinking of hosting a bodybuilder get together down there in the spring before the summer rental season hits. Anyone interested?
freebirdmac
02-09-2010, 06:07 PM
To top it all off, got a call from the rental agent for my property in Kitty Hawk that I co own with my jr high school buddy. A ring of thieves has been operating in the area, and broke in our house and stole the fridge and stove, and busted out a window. None of this is covered by our insurance, and this is the time of year we have no cash coming in.
I was thinking of hosting a bodybuilder get together down there in the spring before the summer rental season hits. Anyone interested?
Yeesh Mike. Sorry to hear about that.
kicker
02-09-2010, 06:08 PM
Hey Mike. Just checking in to see how your doing. Sorry to hear you've been ill. Glad you are feeling somewhat better though. Don't push it too hard in the gym for a couple day. You don't want a relapse. Rest and eat your protein. Oh and buy a real thermometer. haha
Bob45
02-09-2010, 08:07 PM
To top it all off, got a call from the rental agent for my property in Kitty Hawk that I co own with my jr high school buddy. A ring of thieves has been operating in the area, and broke in our house and stole the fridge and stove, and busted out a window. None of this is covered by our insurance, and this is the time of year we have no cash coming in.
I was thinking of hosting a bodybuilder get together down there in the spring before the summer rental season hits. Anyone interested?
That sucks about the rental place. A party sounds great. Has to be women too. The problem is with me is something always gets in the way and can never make it. I've wanted to go to The Arnold for several years and haven't made it yet for one reason or another.
I have other friend's that are accountants. I always hear how stressful this time is. I don't even bother them this time of year.
thanks everybody....wow, I felt so much better this afternoon. I went and did chest and abs after work. did not have my journal so I did not write the weight or reps down.
Upside down bosu ball pushups: 3 sets
bb bench: 2 sets at 155 ( my shoulder hurt really bad in the top right, never hurt before there, so I quit)
db pullovers: 3 sets
flat flys: 3 sets
incline flys: 3 sets
incline bench machine using neutral grip, no shoulder pain: 3 sets
ab roller: 20 20 16
kneeling cable crunches at 200 lbs:: 10 10 9
cable woodchopper things that Mactech described: 110 lbs, 10 10 10
felt great
finished out today by eating 1 oz of cashews at the office during the afternoon, then after I got home from the Y, I ate 3 eggs and a cup of egg whites.
finished at
1,855 cal
83.1 f
39.0 c
230.4 p
blu2xtreme
02-09-2010, 09:36 PM
Great job eating today and training after being so sick ...you rebounded well:)
being in shape helps a lot I think.
blu2xtreme
02-09-2010, 09:48 PM
being in shape helps a lot I think.
Being in shape helps in just about everything ...even fun stuff:p
Being in shape helps in just about everything ...even fun stuff:p
i will take your word for it.
blu2xtreme
02-09-2010, 09:55 PM
i will take your word for it.
I hoping you would bite ...and ask what fun stuff:p
kind of figured it out...I have a little bit of a brain.
blu2xtreme
02-09-2010, 10:03 PM
Your not very much fun tonight coach :D
Baldiewonkanobi
02-09-2010, 10:05 PM
Being in shape helps in just about everything ...even fun stuff:p
And....The smaller the belly the bigger your
feet
look.
Baldie
Your not very much fun tonight coach :D
low carbs again
And....The smaller the belly the bigger your
feet
look.
Baldie
now that seems to be working for me.
bodyhard
02-09-2010, 10:19 PM
Mike whatever the fuck you had is all over the place, my wife, daughter, son, DIL and BIL all have it. They are puking their fucking heads off and running to the bathroom. Good thing I rarely get sick or I would be having this shit too.
Mike whatever the fuck you had is all over the place, my wife, daughter, son, DIL and BIL all have it. They are puking their fucking heads off and running to the bathroom. Good thing I rarely get sick or I would be having this shit too.
I feel blessed, I only had the lower end version:hypno:
at least it didn't last a real long time.
Back day
lat pulldowns precor: 10/140 10/140 8/140 8/140. New machine and first machine where weight seemed heavier than marked
wide pullups: 8 9 7 8
neutral grip cybex pulldown. Almost a row motion: 9/250 8/250 10/240 9/240
underhand closegrip chins: 11 7 6 6
bb shrugs 295: 8 8 10 10
45 cardio
blu2xtreme
02-10-2010, 09:02 AM
Nice backtraining ...have a great day :hmn:
freebirdmac
02-10-2010, 09:18 AM
Happy to read you're eating and working out!! being sick sucks. Especially with what you had. I'd rather have a cold.
Nice backtraining ...have a great day :hmn:
It's tax season, so every day is a great day!!!!:p
Happy to read you're eating and working out!! being sick sucks. Especially with what you had. I'd rather have a cold.
Pam, I felt 110% yesterday afternoon, like I had never been sick...weird.
did my stats this morning, pretty much at a standstill for the past 3 weeks
weight 187.6
neck 16
Shoulders: 49.5
chest: 42
waist: 35.25
Hips: 38.25
Thigh: 23 1/8
Calf: 16.5
Bicep: 15 7/8 :(
Forearm: 13 1/8
last 3 measurement flexed cold, others relaxed cold.
Bob45
02-10-2010, 09:49 AM
It's tax season, so every day is a great day!!!!:p
Pam, I felt 110% yesterday afternoon, like I had never been sick...weird.
Same here. I suddenly was better. Here I thought it was the shots if Jagermeister I had with my Captain and Cokes.
At PF the numbers on the machines all seemed different. The high numbers always seem to make you feel better. We always say the numbers don't matter.
Same here. I suddenly was better. Here I thought it was the shots if Jagermeister I had with my Captain and Cokes.
At PF the numbers on the machines all seemed different. The high numbers always seem to make you feel better. We always say the numbers don't matter.
It is so weird how stomach flu works like that...you suddenly are better. It doesn't linger like a cold
these precor machines are the opposite, they are much heavier than they say.
I had trouble last night doing 120 on the incline bench machine
fitbody
02-10-2010, 09:57 AM
hang in there mike
hang in there mike
thanks, Dawn...I will.
I am really perplexed how I can do ab work and not have sore abs. this is so weird.
I never get sore from doing my arms and I work them the hardest of any body part.
But they got sore from 2+ hours of shoveling f'n snow.
I never get sore from doing my arms and I work them the hardest of any body part.
But they got sore from 2+ hours of shoveling f'n snow.
Yeah, it's funny how stuff like that happens.
I am perplexed I guess because I just started working them, they should be killing me just from the newness of it.
exciting, I was able to take a video with my iphone doing cable laterals...
not too good, but I had to post it.
YouTube- IMG_0487.MOV
Bob45
02-10-2010, 01:07 PM
Good video!
amazing how hard it is to do them when you free hand is not holding a post.
freebirdmac
02-10-2010, 01:22 PM
Where are you? You're too skinny to be seen!
Haha. Very funny. Say lean instead...The euphemism for skinny
freebirdmac
02-10-2010, 01:42 PM
Haha. Very funny. Say lean instead...The euphemism for skinny
Not kidding Mike, you are one lean guy!!
so I can go to pittsburgh to see baldie, I am looking at other shows. this is the middleweight 2nd place finisher in the Maryland NPC show in rockville. I think I can easily take this youngun. the show is 8/21 this year. I am tempted. I did not put the first place guys pic up, he was dominating. I did not see a Masters division other than one listed "State Masters". I am not from Maryland so not sure if I could enter
Also there is a show in Charleston SC that day too and I am seeing if Dr Smo wants to do it with me.
http://www.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_0752_LWXKLQKPRM.jpg
don't even have to travel...2 more shows in Norfolk to choose from...one in May and one in August! Both NPC.
Advice needed from Baldie/Joe/Rick. do I do May show or August show?
http://www.npcvirginia.com/upcoming_events
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