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partsRheavy
03-04-2010, 05:14 PM
Have fun and "break a leg" up there "on stage"!!!!!!

gman
03-04-2010, 08:55 PM
Plan on beating ABP in a tough battle!

gman
03-04-2010, 08:56 PM
My transformation article goes live tomorrow

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/over-40-transformation-mike-gartman.htm

freebirdmac
03-04-2010, 09:12 PM
My transformation article goes live tomorrow

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/over-40-transformation-mike-gartman.htm

Awesome words of wisdom Mike! The grasshopper has caught the fly :yep:

AVBG
03-04-2010, 09:14 PM
congrats Mike!

Oldsuperman
03-05-2010, 01:33 AM
I'm here! Where is everyone? Man this place is gonna rock! So much stuff! Went to the Amateur Bikini competition. Over 30 amazing babes strutton their stuff! Tomorrow strong man, gymnastics, ballroom dancing, power lifting, arm wrestling, bodybuilding amateur and pro show, figure, fitness and on and on and on...

Not to mention over 100s of booths full of stuff! Gonna be a blast!

Baldiewonkanobi
03-05-2010, 06:31 AM
http://articles.elitefts.com/iron-brothers/entertainment-at-the-arnold-b-i-n-g-o/


Baldie


.....ballroom dancing Supe??.....chit and here I sit in 70 degree So Calif......chit!!!!

AnglicanBeachParty
03-05-2010, 06:37 AM
http://articles.elitefts.com/iron-brothers/entertainment-at-the-arnold-b-i-n-g-o/


Baldie


.....ballroom dancing Supe??.....chit and here I sit in 70 degree So Calif......chit!!!!

The year I took my entire family to the Arnold, we saw ballroom dancing, competitive cheerleading, strongman, and I can't remember what all else.

There's just too much to do here!

blu2xtreme
03-05-2010, 07:39 AM
Congrats Mike just read your transformation article ...I am so proud of my coach:)
See Ya later ...we will be cheering loudly :yep:

BEAST MODE
03-05-2010, 07:42 AM
My transformation article goes live tomorrow

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/over-40-transformation-mike-gartman.htm

Congrats bro! Have fun in Columbus!

bamazav
03-05-2010, 09:02 AM
Great article Mike. Have fun.

Baldiewonkanobi
03-05-2010, 10:20 AM
Just took a peek over in Buyoursuppliments.com. Major congrats Mike. You deserve this and it WILL be the catalyst you need to drop that additional weight and win your first show. You better be full of your bad self damn it!!


Baldie

blu2xtreme
03-05-2010, 02:34 PM
Mike and Paul before contest ...they are to sweet
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/FriMar05134115EST2010.jpg

Baldiewonkanobi
03-05-2010, 03:11 PM
MORE :yep:

Sally Anne also posting rapid fire oics on the main Forum.


Baldie

blu2xtreme
03-05-2010, 05:28 PM
They both did great ...Mike was sweating up a storm ...I think he was a little nervous :)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/mikeArnold2010038.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/FriMar05170255EST2010.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/mikeArnold2010032.jpg

blu2xtreme
03-05-2010, 05:31 PM
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/mikeArnold2010054.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/mikeArnold2010052.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/mikeArnold2010049.jpg

blu2xtreme
03-05-2010, 05:33 PM
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/mikeArnold2010048.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/mikeArnold2010047.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/mikeArnold2010042.jpg

AnglicanBeachParty
03-05-2010, 05:44 PM
Thanks for the pics, blu! It was so cool to meet you!!

freebirdmac
03-05-2010, 05:48 PM
Very good picts of two very cool guys! Both of you look great!

blu2xtreme
03-05-2010, 05:54 PM
Thanks for the pics, blu! It was so cool to meet you!!

Great to meet you too:)
Hopefully I will see you for the workout in the morning

AnglicanBeachParty
03-05-2010, 06:00 PM
Great to meet you too:)
Hopefully I will see you for the workout in the morning

Yes, I plan to be there!

kicker
03-05-2010, 06:08 PM
Looks like a great time guys! Live it up! ha ha

gman
03-05-2010, 06:30 PM
Just got to schmidts sausage Haus. Beer, brats and a big dessert are on the agenda!

Had a blast. Will post my thoughts later. Thanks for being the photographer Paula. Thank tammy for doing the video!

kicker
03-05-2010, 06:31 PM
Sounds good! Gonna go have a beer myself!

blu2xtreme
03-05-2010, 06:49 PM
A few pics I missed that are pretty cool - then my friends are pulling me off the laptop to go out:)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/columbus070.jpg

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/columbus069.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/columbus068.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/columbus037.jpg

Baldiewonkanobi
03-05-2010, 10:32 PM
Damn....wish I were there. This is GREAT!!!!!


Baldie

blu2xtreme
03-05-2010, 10:38 PM
Damn....wish I were there. This is GREAT!!!!!


Baldie

Wish you would of been here too...Mike would of loved it so would Blu

I will get pics tomorrow morning too!

freebirdmac
03-05-2010, 10:43 PM
Congrats Mike!!! How'd it feel being in front of that crowd?

AVBG
03-05-2010, 10:47 PM
Was Rick there?

AnglicanBeachParty
03-05-2010, 11:06 PM
Hey gman, now we are "rock stars" in Muscle Central, too!

RX Muscle Forums - View Single Post - SallyCam 2010 from the Arnold Expo!

AnglicanBeachParty
03-05-2010, 11:07 PM
Was Rick there?

Sure was!

I must've talked to him for the better part of an hour!

Baldiewonkanobi
03-06-2010, 06:26 AM
Pics continue to come up in the main Forum.

NOW WHAT DOES WIFIEPOO THINK??????

Baldie

ParadiseCup
03-06-2010, 06:42 AM
hope you guys are having fun in Ohio !!

AnglicanBeachParty
03-06-2010, 06:58 AM
Pics continue to come up in the main Forum.

NOW WHAT DOES WIFIEPOO THINK??????

Baldie

I'd be interested in hearing what your wife thought, too, Mike. It was really nice to meet her. Does she have "Arnold Expo shock syndrome"?


hope you guys are having fun in Ohio !!

You know it!

fatbackgoal
03-06-2010, 07:22 AM
Great job Mike, you looked awesome. Ready to kill it in the gym with you this morning.

gman
03-06-2010, 07:31 AM
Not seeing the pics. Just a couple in Sally annes thread. Did I miss some?

I actually kind of enjoyed it, so maybe I can be a member of the "mirror whore coalition" now

on my cell, will try to write a good summary post when I can get to a computer

GirlyMuscle
03-06-2010, 08:19 AM
You looked awesome, Mike! Now on to the comp prep!!!

BEAST MODE
03-06-2010, 09:21 AM
How you feeling now Mike? You more motivated now that you've spent a day at the Arnold?

buckimscl
03-06-2010, 10:29 AM
Great time yesterday and great meeting Mike, Paul and Paula. Good job guys!!

bamazav
03-06-2010, 04:01 PM
Great pictures guys. I hate that I missed all the fun. I will be there to see the show in a few months.

Baldiewonkanobi
03-06-2010, 04:03 PM
Still no Saturday training pics?? :mad:




Baldie

blu2xtreme
03-06-2010, 10:03 PM
Here's some pics for you Mike ...

sorry it took so long Baldie ...I was really busy having fun in Columbus :hypno:
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/016-3.jpg

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/025.jpg

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/030-3.jpg

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/049.jpg

Baldiewonkanobi
03-07-2010, 06:03 AM
Now we are talkin!! This is what I like. ABP's pics and these. Some of my most cheerished moments in life have been training and training with others. Mike...Not only have you dramaticly changed into a Bodybuilder....Ed has yet again upped it a notch. His back is thicker (head balder....cool) and his tris in that back shot are Olympian. Ed...how did you do that?

Thanx blu.

Baldie

AnglicanBeachParty
03-07-2010, 06:42 AM
Hey Mike --- somebody put a picture of Bruce Willis on your forum! Yippee-ki-yay Mother F**ker! Looking like a bodybuilder in my book.

Dr Smo

LOL ... I posted one of the onstage pics of us from Friday on my FaceBook page.

My sister commented. Her first comment was that my color was much better than with what I had used before (Jan Tana).

Her 2nd comment was:

"And I didn't know Bruce Willis was going to be in the show with you--that's really cool."

Baldiewonkanobi
03-07-2010, 07:06 AM
Ya know.....




Baldie

bamazav
03-07-2010, 08:00 AM
Thanks for the pics Blu. It is great that those of us who were unable to travel to Columbus can still participate, even if it is indirectly.

Mike and Bruce do kinda favor. Not sure if that is a compliment or not?

gman
03-07-2010, 09:18 AM
Hey everyone...finally got to a computer. Thanks for all the well wishes! Paul was a great guy and we had a fun time. I was a little nervous at first when I stripped down, but Mr G made it easy. It was a great experience to pose in public in a "practice" show. I actually was enjoying which worries me a litte bit, I guess I am member of the Mirror Whore Coalition now (right Ed?)

I was a little disappointed that Paul and I didn't win anything but a t-shirt, but that's ok. I did it to do it, not to win something.

My leg was shaking toward the end when I tried to spike my right calf, so I had to try to switch legs a couple of poses. I did ok considering I have only been posing for about 3 weeks now.

I went to the Schmidt's Sausage Haus for an epic cheat meal: 2 plates of German sausage, cabbage and potato salad, most of a 32 oz stein of beer, and 1/2 lb peanut butter and chocolate cream puff.

What an experience! I am ready now for my 12 week show prep...Esplendido concurred with my coach that 15 lbs is the number I need to lose, which will put me right at 170.

Training with Ed was a great experience....he got my form correct on tricep pushdowns and overhead rope extensions, as well as helped me with my front relaxed

joedemarco
03-07-2010, 03:36 PM
Congratulations, Mike! Great job.

bigdaddyd
03-07-2010, 05:52 PM
Great job G

bcapprentice
03-07-2010, 07:03 PM
Now that you are a full fledged bodybuilder I hope that you won't forgett as wonnabe's.

gman
03-07-2010, 11:20 PM
First 10 minutes of the main event.

YouTube- RxMuscle Master's Challenge

GirlyMuscle
03-07-2010, 11:31 PM
You both looked great, Mike. COngrats! Hey..and Baldie's pretty hot.

But hey, wasn't there supposed to be suppliments or something as prizes for this thing?

MsGuns
03-08-2010, 12:31 AM
CONGRATS Mike! I missed meeting yall...I met Paul bc he stopped by the EJM booth...

blu2xtreme
03-08-2010, 01:13 AM
Great seeing you again Mike ...thanks for letting me tag along to the gym it was one of the best parts of the trip:)

Baldiewonkanobi
03-08-2010, 05:53 AM
[quote=GirlyMuscle;910777]You both looked great, Mike. COngrats! Hey..and Baldie's pretty hot.

Thats not Baldie....thats a 25 pound bigger and 15 year younger/handsomer version....Ed Cook, Old Superman....one of the best.

Mike, one more lesson as you spiral into the darkness of mirror whorism...WHENEVER a camera is around, chest UP, head on top of your shoulders...not forward and pull up your lats bringing out delt width. Ed is a master at this.

Baldie

gman
03-08-2010, 06:27 AM
You both looked great, Mike. COngrats! Hey..and Baldie's pretty hot.

But hey, wasn't there supposed to be suppliments or something as prizes for this thing?

Yes, that's what the original challenge was supposed to be, supplements as prizes...we each won a t-shirt, 2xl, so I have to wash it in boiling water and put it in the oven so I can wear it! lol

Not a big deal, I did it for the challenge, not for the prize!


CONGRATS Mike! I missed meeting yall...I met Paul bc he stopped by the EJM booth...

I didn't know where you were going to be or I would have stopped by too!


Great seeing you again Mike ...thanks for letting me tag along to the gym it was one of the best parts of the trip:)

You should start a second job as a photographer, you were really good at it!


[quote=GirlyMuscle;910777]You both looked great, Mike. COngrats! Hey..and Baldie's pretty hot.

Thats not Baldie....thats a 25 pound bigger and 15 year younger/handsomer version....Ed Cook, Old Superman....one of the best.

Mike, one more lesson as you spiral into the darkness of mirror whorism...WHENEVER a camera is around, chest UP, head on top of your shoulders...not forward and pull up your lats bringing out delt width. Ed is a master at this.

Baldie

Thanks, Baldie...lesson learned is: always pose, never relax when a camera is around.

Don't tell Ed, but my legs are better than his! :p

Mac
03-08-2010, 06:31 AM
Good job Mikey. Now on to the next one.

AnglicanBeachParty
03-08-2010, 06:49 AM
Don't tell Ed, but my legs are better than his! :p

I think your legs look better in the Saturday pics than in the pics from the event on Friday.

It could be just difference in lighting, but if it is a diet/water thing, you'll want to figure that out before your contest in May.

gman
03-08-2010, 08:17 AM
Paul, i am sure it was the 4000 calorie German buffet I ate Friday night including the half pound cream puff !

axioma
03-08-2010, 08:23 AM
congrats, sorry I missed this thing. you look like you had a blast, that is what it is all about!

Bob45
03-08-2010, 08:45 AM
You guys looked great. I liked the video. Hope you had fun! Now it's back to tax season.

gman
03-08-2010, 02:14 PM
Here is a pic ed cook took of us from the side
a little different view of our most muscular pose

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/6adf9ff0.jpg

gman
03-08-2010, 02:16 PM
congrats, sorry I missed this thing. you look like you had a blast, that is what it is all about!

it was almost too fun. Makes me a little worried!


You guys looked great. I liked the video. Hope you had fun! Now it's back to tax season.

Yes. Real life is no fun Bob!

gman
03-08-2010, 02:22 PM
Legs today. Not heavy

feet together squats: 15/135 10/185 10/185
sldl:10/185 10/205 7/225
seated leg curls: 3 sets
leg extensions: 3 sets

back on contest diet

11 weeks, 5 days out

gman
03-08-2010, 02:25 PM
part 2 of posedown as best as I could get. Has the crowd cheer off

YouTube- Masters challenge part 2

blu2xtreme
03-08-2010, 02:29 PM
Video was cool
Are you wiped out from the whole expeirence?
I didn't compete and I am totally wiped.

Can't wait to see the results for the real contest prep .... You will rock:)

AnglicanBeachParty
03-08-2010, 03:26 PM
Here is a pic ed cook took of us from the side
a little different view of our most muscular pose

Holy cow, I look scrawny from that angle!

That's a perennial problem for me: I disappear when viewed from the side!

bamazav
03-08-2010, 04:13 PM
Hey Mike, great videos and pictures. Your hosts could have used some decorating help on their stage set up. That must have been a a bit distracting.

Looking forward to seeing everything in person in May.

On a more personal note, I have found out this week that we share some physical issues that I would like to talk with you some more about. When you get time, I realize it is tax season so I am not in a hurry, can you email or call me? Thanks.

gman
03-08-2010, 05:27 PM
Video was cool
Are you wiped out from the whole expeirence?
I didn't compete and I am totally wiped.

Can't wait to see the results for the real contest prep .... You will rock:)

I got pretty dehydrated on Friday and really never caught back up the entire weekend. I ate like crap for 2 of the 3 days (friday night and Sunday) I was there too, and that didn't help.

I do think I will do well in my contest. I am at 12% bf right now and looked only bad in my lower torso, so at 4% I will look great I think


Holy cow, I look scrawny from that angle!

That's a perennial problem for me: I disappear when viewed from the side!

Time to bulk!


Hey Mike, great videos and pictures. Your hosts could have used some decorating help on their stage set up. That must have been a a bit distracting.

Looking forward to seeing everything in person in May.

On a more personal note, I have found out this week that we share some physical issues that I would like to talk with you some more about. When you get time, I realize it is tax season so I am not in a hurry, can you email or call me? Thanks.

I will try to call you tomorrow sometime after I get back from an appointment, or at least email you!

The whole thing was distracting because it was in a vendor exhibition hall with about 100,000 people milling around...but once it started I was able to concentrate pretty well.

gman
03-08-2010, 05:30 PM
More observations from watching the video again.

I am pretty fat still for a bodybuilder
I need to pose, pose and pose some more to get more stamina on holding poses
Need to learn to flex my lats (ed gave me some good tips, so I can work on it)
will need to invest in a real good custom spray tan job, janna tan doesn't cut it for me
I enjoyed it way too much!

bamazav
03-08-2010, 05:51 PM
More observations from watching the video again.

I am pretty fat still for a bodybuilder
I need to pose, pose and pose some more to get more stamina on holding poses
Need to learn to flex my lats (ed gave me some good tips, so I can work on it)
will need to invest in a real good custom spray tan job, janna tan doesn't cut it for me
I enjoyed it way too much!
Don't get all down on us. Now you have some clear goals to work for. We are going to be there to push you to attain your goal.

kicker
03-08-2010, 05:53 PM
Not fat for someone about 12 weeks out and not nearly as fat as me. You did good. Remember that.

gman
03-08-2010, 06:00 PM
Don't get all down on us. Now you have some clear goals to work for. We are going to be there to push you to attain your goal.

No, didn't mean it to sound down, just as a motivational tool...I have a long ways to go to be competitive in my real show, and I know it. It is really going to help me to have done this challenge.


Not fat for someone about 12 weeks out and not nearly as fat as me. You did good. Remember that.

Thanks, kicker. I am really happy with how I look now. Maybe 5 more lbs and I will be ecstatic for this to be my off season weight! I have only 15-20 to go for my show and I am looking forward to it!

gman
03-08-2010, 06:01 PM
Today's food:

2 scoops whey preworkout
2 scoops of whey and navel orange after workout
10 egg whites and 2 oz of sweet potato
2 scoops of whey

will have broiled tuna and salad for dinner with 1 oz of olive oil as dressing

then for meal 6, will have 8 oz of chicken.

BEAST MODE
03-08-2010, 06:12 PM
I just ate before I read today's food...glad I did because I'd be starving otherwise.

gman
03-08-2010, 06:30 PM
I just ate before I read today's food...glad I did because I'd be starving otherwise.

very funny!

this is 2000 cals a day, so it's not like I am on a low cal diet, Rich!

BEAST MODE
03-08-2010, 07:21 PM
It looks that way!

gman
03-09-2010, 06:12 AM
Finally got the courage up to weigh myself.

186.2, meaning I gained almost 2 lbs since Thursday morning. To be honest I feel thinner, so I am not sure what's up with that. But I ate like crap Friday night, and Sunday all day, just hungry beyond reason. I honestly was almost thinking it would be worse than 2 lbs, so I guess I should be happy!

Yesterday I started back on my contest diet and did not eat a single extra bite, so I hope it comes back off and keeps going now

bamazav
03-09-2010, 06:49 AM
Weekend probably shocked your metabolism. Don't be surprised if you see a quick loss of 4 - 5 lbs.

Baldiewonkanobi
03-09-2010, 07:24 AM
Might want to add Balsamic vinegar 50/50 with that oil on salad. Zero cals and helps with the blood PH from all the whey. Stress = weight gain (in my case bloat). And, don't ask me why. I was the poster child for that yesterday.

Bloatie

bigdaddyd
03-09-2010, 08:05 AM
That sure doesn't look like 2000 calories.

gman
03-09-2010, 09:21 AM
Weekend probably shocked your metabolism. Don't be surprised if you see a quick loss of 4 - 5 lbs.

sure hope so!


Might want to add Balsamic vinegar 50/50 with that oil on salad. Zero cals and helps with the blood PH from all the whey. Stress = weight gain (in my case bloat). And, don't ask me why. I was the poster child for that yesterday.

Bloatie

hopefully bloatie wii be baldie again soon!

Will pick up some balsamic today


That sure doesn't look like 2000 calories.
It is depending on the brand of whey. Plus I take 80 cals worth of fish oil, etc

gman
03-09-2010, 09:27 AM
Chest day and posing. Trying to go heavier

db flat bench: 10/65 7/75 5/80 4/85

inc db press:65's 8 6 6 5

flat flys 55's: 8 6 5

Inc flys 55's: 7 5 4

10 min posing

bigdaddyd
03-09-2010, 03:52 PM
nice workout G.

gman
03-09-2010, 04:20 PM
Thanks, D!

Just got back at 330 from a client and finally ate meal 3 at 4pm. I am a little behind!

Meal 4 is just protein powder so I can do that at 5:30 or so and catch up a little.

gman
03-09-2010, 07:08 PM
I am still at work and have had 4 meals. No way to eat all 6 today, that's ok, I need to make up for the weekend anyway!

Mac
03-09-2010, 08:40 PM
So how did your body respond to the influx of all those extra carbs this past weekend?

gman
03-09-2010, 08:51 PM
So how did your body respond to the influx of all those extra carbs this past weekend?

I looked better on saturday and even better on Sunday than I did at the contest!

blu2xtreme
03-09-2010, 08:57 PM
I looked better on saturday and even better on Sunday than I did at the contest!

You looked great at the workout on Saturday ...hard to imagine you looking any better on Sunday ...well maybe I can;)

gman
03-09-2010, 09:21 PM
You looked great at the workout on Saturday ...hard to imagine you looking any better on Sunday ...well maybe I can;)

funny thing is, I look even better now than I did Friday...weird.

freebirdmac
03-09-2010, 09:27 PM
funny thing is, I look even better now than I did Friday...weird.

Carbs. Bet you're not as flat. You might even get the "whoosh" this week.

gman
03-09-2010, 09:35 PM
by whoosh are you meaning a big drop in weight?

I am also back on the low carb train so back to flat very soon!

today I did not eat exactly what my coach gave me, I need to start cooking fish somehow, plus was supposed to eat 50g of sweet potato but could not find them at Kroger at all

1: 2 scoops whey
2: postworkout MetRx protein bar in car on way to client
3: 10 egg whites
4: 2 scoops whey, navel orange
5: 8 oz of chicken
6: 2 scoops of whey, 2 tbsp of sugar free chocolate syrup, 10 peanuts mixed in

freebirdmac
03-09-2010, 09:37 PM
by whoosh are you meaning a big drop in weight?

I am also back on the low carb train so back to flat very soon!

today I did not eat exactly what my coach gave me, I need to start cooking fish somehow

1: 2 scoops whey
2: postworkout MetRx protein bar in car on way to client
3: 10 egg whites
4: 2 scoops whey
5: 8 oz of chicken
6: 2 scoops of whey, 2 tbsp of sugar free chocolate syrup, 10 peanuts mixed in

Yep. Carb loads like that can be followed by the "whooshing" of weight loss.

Oldsuperman
03-10-2010, 02:55 AM
It was great to see and train next to you guys! A pleasure to meet Blu! I was up till about 4AM the night before, so I was glad Mike set a date to train or I'm sure I wouldn't have made it that day!

I was invited to a few clubs with a nameless supplement company Friday night. Finally at 3AM I said to them, "done! Take me to the hotel". I haven't been clubbing in over 30 years! I'M TOOOOOO OLD FOR THAT KINDA CRAP! LOL! :banana:

Anyway, we shot off the guns at a great meat head gym. Lots of big beef and clapping, slapping steal!

Just a note at to the two great men that stood on that stage Friday. My hats off to those guys! They had a huge crowd that was having a great time and you could see the admiration from them as they watched these two men go through their moves. I WAS AND STILL AM INSPIRED!!!

Baldie
My friend, I keep training hard. I keep working on my weak points. I'll be at the 2011 Masters Nats and the No Americans. This time I'll have my head screwed on straight. My sweetheart will be there this time or I will not! I've come to the age that I'm just more stable when she is by my side.

Celluco picks up all my bills and take amazing care of me. So that pressure is off my mind! If you guys want any of thier products, go to their web site www.celcucor.com (http://www.celcucor.com) and add promo code, oldsuperman, and you'll get free shipping and 10% off.

I'm doing what I can to get then to send me to Master Nats this July. We'll see!!

Again Mike. I love ya brother. Soooo proud of ya! Popps:hmn:

gman
03-10-2010, 06:07 AM
Popps, I feel blessed I got to train with you. Just one session and I feel even more like a bodybuilder!

I knew last night as I was getting ready for bed that I had lost some weight pretty fast. I could tell by how my abs looked and my pants were loose more than usual.

183.4!, down almost 3 in one day, and I did eat all 6 meals yesterday

freebirdmac
03-10-2010, 06:13 AM
Whoosh! :D

Mike, how'd your wife like the show, your new physique, and how's her weight loss going?

Mac
03-10-2010, 06:42 AM
I looked better on saturday and even better on Sunday than I did at the contest!

You have just seen how your body responded to carb loading and probably much lower stress levels.

AnglicanBeachParty
03-10-2010, 08:48 AM
Just a note at to the two great men that stood on that stage Friday. My hats off to those guys! They had a huge crowd that was having a great time and you could see the admiration from them as they watched these two men go through their moves. I WAS AND STILL AM INSPIRED!!!


The privilege of meeting was all mine. You are an inspiration to me!

I've talked to my wife a lot about both you and Baldie. She gets you mixed up, still, but is impressed with both.

blu2xtreme
03-10-2010, 09:02 AM
Popps, I feel blessed I got to train with you. Just one session and I feel even more like a bodybuilder!

I knew last night as I was getting ready for bed that I had lost some weight pretty fast. I could tell by how my abs looked and my pants were loose more than usual.

183.4!, down almost 3 in one day, and I did eat all 6 meals yesterday

Traveling seems to be good for your weight loss ... all the different activity and excitement.
Do you have posing practice starting back up Friday ?

gman
03-10-2010, 11:07 AM
Posing lessons do start again on Friday, but I have been practicing again yesterday and today...need to get in much better condition!

Today I did back, I really am trying to lift heavier

Deadlifts (really suck at these now): 6/225 warmup, 6/275 5/315 2/335 4/335

Inverted rows: 14 15 14 13

underhand closegrip pulldowns 185 lbs (honest weight on the new machine): 8 7 7 6

bentover db rows, both hands at once, 85's: 7 8 8 8

10 minutes posing practice.

Mac
03-10-2010, 11:25 AM
Deadlifts (really suck at these now): 6/225 warmup, 6/275 5/315 2/335 4/335



Hey, that's about all I am doing, so quit saying I suck too!

gman
03-10-2010, 11:40 AM
Just bothers me because I usually do 365-385 for 4 reps!!!!

I think I hurt my back too at these lighter weights...might go see my chiro if it doesn't get better by tomorrow.

gman
03-10-2010, 12:58 PM
did mention before how I am really really really digging not doing cardio?

I have decided now that it's getting warmer, to go ahead and incorporate intervals a couple of times a week outdoors....wind sprints more than likely. Never seen a sprinter who was not jacked.

Mac
03-10-2010, 01:20 PM
Check this out Two sessions are better (http://www.ergo-log.com/twohalfhourjoggingsessions.html) than one longer one.

This was always a theory of mine and now there is scientific evidence to prove it!

gman
03-10-2010, 01:25 PM
Good article

i have read so many articles with scientific backing to shoot down long bouts of slow cardio, I will never do it again.

Just going to do short interval sessions and maybe hike in the park on Sunday morning now that it's warm again!

Mac
03-10-2010, 01:29 PM
Long slow cardio WILL work, but it's not as effective. HIIT is where it's at. Much more productive and does not take as much of your time.

It's great for controlling blood sugar levels after eating.

gman
03-10-2010, 03:39 PM
I am sold on it so I will try it this weekend!

today's food:

2 scoops whey, navel orange

postworkout, protein bar, Metrx (after I ate this I went and bought Lean Body drinks to leave in the car for mornings when I couldn't get a whey shake)

lunch: 8 oz chicken breast, 2 oz of sweet potato

snack: 2 scoops of whey.

I am determined to get below 180 in 2 weeks, come hell or high water.

HeavyDutyGuy
03-10-2010, 04:13 PM
Hey, that's about all I am doing, so quit saying I suck too!
for a middle weight that isnt bad- you will get it back- Deads are so funny- I either rock them or bomb........no other lift do I do that on..

bigdaddyd
03-10-2010, 04:16 PM
Deadlifts (really suck at these now): 6/225 warmup, 6/275 5/315 2/335 4/335

Thats not bad Mike....I'm not sure where you think you should be....but thats not bad at all buddy.

gman
03-10-2010, 04:18 PM
for a middle weight that isnt bad- you will get it back- Deads are so funny- I either rock them or bomb........no other lift do I do that on..


Thats not bad Mike....I'm not sure where you think you should be....but thats not bad at all buddy.

doing 365-385 for reps in the recent past, plus did 2 at 425 not too long ago.

I realize I was 15-20 lbs heavier then, maybe that counts for something, but fat does not lift the bar!

esplendido
03-10-2010, 06:41 PM
Long slow cardio WILL work, but it's not as effective. HIIT is where it's at. Much more productive and does not take as much of your time.

It's great for controlling blood sugar levels after eating.

But HIIT takes your heart rate over 130 and enters into anaerobic work, which burns glucose, not fat. If Mike is trying to hold muscle, he'll burn it to provide glucose since he's eating low carb. HIIT is not good cardio for contest prep!

gman
03-10-2010, 06:51 PM
this is always an interesting debate

If you do 5 50 yd dashes with a walk back to the starting line in between as your cardio, don't see how that's a muscle burner.

freebirdmac
03-10-2010, 07:04 PM
:popcorn:

gman
03-10-2010, 09:46 PM
well, right now I am doing the ultimate anabolic cardio.....NONE!

so there is nothing to debate as of now!

bodyhard
03-10-2010, 11:05 PM
well, right now I am doing the ultimate anabolic cardio.....NONE!

so there is nothing to debate as of now!


:D Nice way of just saying fuck it for now :D

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 12:45 AM
Make sure you get your cardio debate figured out before you make me do any again:D
I haven't done any in over 2 weeks and my weight is not going up ( had lost some during the trip but that was a false lose I am sure )

Great job on your contest prep eating!
Looking foward to your next progress pics they will be great I am sure!!

gman
03-11-2010, 05:12 AM
:D Nice way of just saying fuck it for now :D

exactly...why do it if it isn't needed? I am losing about the same rate as I was before when I was doing it.



Make sure you get your cardio debate figured out before you make me do any again:D
I haven't done any in over 2 weeks and my weight is not going up ( had lost some during the trip but that was a false lose I am sure )

Great job on your contest prep eating!
Looking foward to your next progress pics they will be great I am sure!!

Who is the one who told you to not do so much cardio???? (it wasn't me, remember?) Hint, Lynrd Skynrd song.

I will be sure to post some pics, especially when I get under 180!

gman
03-11-2010, 05:46 AM
Official weigh in day

183.2 (down 1.2 since last Thursday)
34.5" waist (down about 1/2 or so since last week)

two things have me a little stressed:

chest is down to 41 1/2
and worst of all my thighs are barely 23" now!

Mac
03-11-2010, 07:22 AM
Throw the f'n tape measure away!

Mac
03-11-2010, 07:24 AM
But HIIT takes your heart rate over 130 and enters into anaerobic work, which burns glucose, not fat. If Mike is trying to hold muscle, he'll burn it to provide glucose since he's eating low carb. HIIT is not good cardio for contest prep!

It worked well for me, but I was not on a keto diet. It's what occurs when you're done with HIIT and the fat burning process continues.

Bob45
03-11-2010, 08:28 AM
Official weigh in day

183.2 (down 1.2 since last Thursday)
34.5" waist (down about 1/2 or so since last week)

two things have me a little stressed:

chest is down to 41 1/2
and worst of all my thighs are barely 23" now!

Fat does help a lot with size. I wouldn't worry about it. You looked pretty thick in the pictures. You wanted a May show. You can't expect muscle size and being on a calorie deficit for months. Just sayin.

gman
03-11-2010, 09:23 AM
Throw the f'n tape measure away!

I think I will only measure my waist for a while!


It worked well for me, but I was not on a keto diet. It's what occurs when you're done with HIIT and the fat burning process continues.

Exactly...Who wants to spend 2 hours a day walking!?


Fat does help a lot with size. I wouldn't worry about it. You looked pretty thick in the pictures. You wanted a May show. You can't expect muscle size and being on a calorie deficit for months. Just sayin.

I know, Bob. My legs look better now than ever, so I should not even care!

gman
03-11-2010, 09:25 AM
Went to East Coast Gym and signed up for a one month membership just to see if it works to drive that far before I commit to permanent.

Did a shoulder workout:

Seated cybex shoulder press, wide: 4 sets
Db laterals, normal grip: 4 sets
Front bb raises: 4 sets
DB laterals, palms facing mirror: 4 sets
Bentover reverse flys: 4 sets
Wide grip rows to the sternum, slightly bent forward at the waist: 4 sets

10 minutes posing.

Definitely seeing the loss in the mirror. I guess 1 lb shows now.

gman
03-11-2010, 09:32 AM
the epic cheat meal at Schmidt's with my friend Eric:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010%20Arnold%20Classic/bigbeeratschmidts.jpg

gman
03-11-2010, 09:32 AM
eric and his gf Ivana enjoying a 1/2 lb peanut butter and chocolate cream puff. I had the same thing...it was better than sex!

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2010%20Arnold%20Classic/creampuffs.jpg

Mac
03-11-2010, 09:38 AM
1/2 lb peanut butter and chocolate cream puff. I had the same thing...it was better than sex!


Somebody is doing something wrong then.

AnglicanBeachParty
03-11-2010, 09:39 AM
I'm averting my eyes from those cream puffs. For now, anyway. :drool:



"One day it will be mine ... Oh, YES, it will be mine."

gman
03-11-2010, 09:45 AM
Somebody is doing something wrong then.

You obviously never had one of these cream puffs. :hypno:


I'm averting my eyes from those cream puffs. For now, anyway. :drool:

If you look at the other pic, I had two plates of food that size, plus 28 oz of that 32 oz beer, before I ate the 1/2 lb cream puff.

I lost a lb this week.

Go figure!!!

Mac
03-11-2010, 09:47 AM
You obviously never had one of these cream puffs. :hypno:


You obviously never had great sex.



If you look at the other pic, I had two plates of food that size, plus 28 oz of that 32 oz beer, before I ate the 1/2 lb cream puff.

I lost a lb this week.

Go figure!!!

Amazing what the body does when it is not overstressed.

Learn from this.

gman
03-11-2010, 09:54 AM
You obviously never had great sex.



Amazing what the body does when it is not overstressed.

Learn from this.

OK...let's call it a tie...great sex = cream puff! lol

I think doing no cardio, switching to higher protein and lower fat diet( it was easy to cheat with nuts and peanut butter), and the fact I am posing every day, are all contributing. Plus I think my body is used to this now and is starting to burn more efficiently...at least I hope so!

Mac
03-11-2010, 09:56 AM
OK...let's call it a tie...great sex = cream puff! lol


OK, a tie it is. Next time, put the two together, and BAM!

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 10:44 AM
OK...let's call it a tie...great sex = cream puff! lol


Never ...never is food better then sex ...especially great sex !


OK, a tie it is. Next time, put the two together, and BAM!

That might make a cream puff worth it :p

gman
03-11-2010, 10:47 AM
When's the last time anyone had great sex?

Cream puffs and sex sounds really good! In a perv sort of way

gman
03-11-2010, 10:52 AM
OK I give up.....

great sex is definitely better than a 1/2 lb peanut butter and chocolate cream puff!

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 10:53 AM
When's the last time anyone had great sex?

Cream puffs and sex sounds really good! In a perv sort of way


Giving out that kind of info could be very dangerous ...since it was very recent:hypno:

Food and sex together is always good in a perv kind of way;)

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 10:55 AM
OK I give up.....

great sex is definitely better than a 1/2 lb peanut butter and chocolate cream puff!

When it happens ...you will know it ...you will never need a cream puff as a special treat again :p

gman
03-11-2010, 10:59 AM
ummmm....uhhhhh. ....hmmmmm...



anyway, I feel a lot leaner today, did I mention that?

Mac
03-11-2010, 11:35 AM
But HIIT takes your heart rate over 130 and enters into anaerobic work, which burns glucose, not fat. If Mike is trying to hold muscle, he'll burn it to provide glucose since he's eating low carb. HIIT is not good cardio for contest prep!

More scientific evidence just released today showing 70% intensity vs. 35% and resulting fat loss was higher in the 70% group.

Up beat cardio (http://www.ergo-log.com/upbeatcardiosession.html)

gman
03-11-2010, 11:37 AM
every study seems to state that nowadays. how many skinny fat distance runners do you see? Lots. How many skinny fat sprinters do you see? NONE

AnglicanBeachParty
03-11-2010, 11:57 AM
every study seems to state that nowadays. how many skinny fat distance runners do you see? Lots. How many skinny fat sprinters do you see? NONE

I think this is misleading, though.

Everyone and his uncle enters 5K and 10K races these days. Some of them have horrible physiques. All the front-runners, though, are lean.

Hardly anyone is a recreational sprinter. Otherwise you'd see skinny-fat people doing that, too. It is a "filtered" sample, while the distance running population is "unfiltered".

Mac
03-11-2010, 12:08 PM
Everyone and his uncle enters 5K and 10K races these days. Some of them have horrible physiques.

You are backing up his assertions. Not just ' everyone ' enters a 5k. The majority of them have what you say, horrible physiques.

gman
03-11-2010, 12:41 PM
let me put it another way: would you rather look like Frank Shorter or Ben Johnson?

bodyhard
03-11-2010, 12:46 PM
.it was better than sex!



Better than sex??????? :hypno::hypno:

When's the last time anyone had great sex?



Mike please tell me you are kidding!

Man I fuck my brains out every other day, sometimes everyday!

How could anything be better than sex?

gman
03-11-2010, 12:49 PM
I am kidding, John!

Just wanted everyone to know how good the cream puff was, and went a little over the top!

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 12:57 PM
I am kidding, John!

Just wanted everyone to know how good the cream puff was, and went a little over the top!

Shouldn't joke about sex ...people get testy :hypno:

gman
03-11-2010, 01:02 PM
Shouldn't joke about sex ...people get testy :hypno:

I figured that out.

It was a great way to get activity on my thread wasn't it?

bodyhard
03-11-2010, 01:30 PM
I figured that out.

It was a great way to get activity on my thread wasn't it?


Sex always makes a thread active/sexy, but it is better if it was on a females thread, not that you are not sexy Mike, you-big-looking-like-bruce willis-hunk-of-a-man! :drool:

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 01:32 PM
Sex always makes a thread active/sexy, but it is better if it was on a females thread, not that you are not sexy Mike, you-big-looking-like-bruce willis-hunk-of-a-man! :drool:

Mike is very sexy ...who would of guessed:dunno:

I think I did :p

gman
03-11-2010, 01:35 PM
Bruce Willis just called and asked me to be his body double in his next movie....

Me, sexy???? Don't see it, but I am vain that's for sure.

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 01:37 PM
Bruce Willis just called and asked me to be his body double in his next movie....

Me, sexy???? Don't see it, but I am vain that's for sure.

With vanity comes confidence and sexiness ;)

bodyhard
03-11-2010, 01:47 PM
Bruce Willis just called and asked me to be his body double in his next movie....

Me, sexy???? Don't see it, but I am vain that's for sure.


Impossible you are way too big and muscular to be his double.

bigdaddyd
03-11-2010, 02:56 PM
Went to East Coast Gym and signed up for a one month membership just to see if it works to drive that far before I commit to permanent.

Did a shoulder workout:

Seated cybex shoulder press, wide: 4 sets
Db laterals, normal grip: 4 sets
Front bb raises: 4 sets
DB laterals, palms facing mirror: 4 sets
Bentover reverse flys: 4 sets
Wide grip rows to the sternum, slightly bent forward at the waist: 4 sets

10 minutes posing.

Definitely seeing the loss in the mirror. I guess 1 lb shows now.

Good workout Mike. Is the posing kicking your ass? It's tough stuff!!

gman
03-11-2010, 02:58 PM
it's kicking my ass and I am hardly doing it...10 seconds per pose. I think I need to be able to hold for 60 seconds each one.

bigdaddyd
03-11-2010, 03:00 PM
When I was doing it last summer I was the same....about 10-15 seconds for 7-9 minutes and I was sweating like a pig.

Its good for you though so keep it up.

gman
03-11-2010, 05:20 PM
I will D...I think it's helping to bring the weight down.

gman
03-11-2010, 05:20 PM
I am hungry as #$%#$@#@#$ today for some reason, almost unbearably so.

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 05:25 PM
I am hungry as #$%#$@#@#$ today for some reason, almost unbearably so.

It must be all the talk about sex and cream puffs :p
It made me hungry too;)

gman
03-11-2010, 05:27 PM
whatever it takes to get you to eat enough!

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 05:29 PM
whatever it takes to get you to eat enough!

I will have to be happy with applesauce and whey for now ...maybe slide a little peanut butter into it:)

gman
03-11-2010, 05:35 PM
applesauce, whey and peanut butter. not what I would have picked, but at least you would be eating!

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 05:42 PM
applesauce, whey and peanut butter. not what I would have picked, but at least you would be eating!

I have an odd appetite for things ...never know what I will crave

gman
03-11-2010, 06:42 PM
It's very strange but I am not hungry at all now. I think I am going to have a hard time eating again tonight. I have had 4 meals today.

blu2xtreme
03-11-2010, 07:06 PM
It's very strange but I am not hungry at all now. I think I am going to have a hard time eating again tonight. I have had 4 meals today.

I feel that way now too...must of been the thought of my last meal

gman
03-11-2010, 09:23 PM
Managed to eat meal 5...that's going to be it

Today's food

2 scoops whey pre workout
labrada lean body shake and a navel orange postworkout
8 oz rotisserie chicken breast and 1/2 sweet potato
2 scoops of whey, 5 bagel crisps (not on diet, oops)
pint of egg beaters

gman
03-12-2010, 09:21 AM
arms and abs

overhead rope extensions: 4 sets of 10-12 130lbs
ez bar skullcrushers: 4 sets 0f 7-8 at 85lbs
one arm overhead db extensions: 6/35 9/30

incline db curls both arms at once using 35's: 4 sets of 7-9
BB cheat curls, 135 lbs: 5 7 6 5 serious heaving going on, but it definitely hurt biceps too
drop set of straight bar cable curls, 130 down to 20

3 sets of hanging knee raises: 20 15 15

183.2 again, so seems like I am going to stay down.... :)

I did end up eating a 6th meal last night, protein powder and a handful of peanuts blended in ice and water

gman
03-12-2010, 09:47 AM
my triceps are already hurting, a good sign to be sure.

blu2xtreme
03-12-2010, 09:51 AM
my triceps are already hurting, a good sign to be sure.

Is it a good hurt or a bad hurt :p

gman
03-12-2010, 09:57 AM
Is it a good hurt or a bad hurt :p

Yes

gman
03-12-2010, 10:00 AM
I used my $50 store credit from winning the over 40 Trnasformation of the Week on the other site to buy NO Shotgun. Never tried a preworkout drink before. I think it helped a lot, at least I looked better after getting my arms pumped!

gman
03-12-2010, 10:54 AM
I do believe I am the hungriest I have ever been right now, no lie.

Baldiewonkanobi
03-12-2010, 10:55 AM
I do sneak in a Labrada Strawberry from time to time....yummy. 40 protein and 1 carb if I recall. Expensive...$6 for two at our local super. Over $7 for two at Vitamin Shoppe.

I am also hungry...very hungry.

Baldie

gman
03-12-2010, 11:02 AM
I do sneak in a Labrada Strawberry from time to time....yummy. 40 protein and 1 carb if I recall. Expensive...$6 for two at our local super. Over $7 for two at Vitamin Shoppe.

I am also hungry...very hungry.

Baldie

I got 12 for 39, so it is pricey, but it has 40g protein, 9g fat, and 9g carbs, 5 of which are fiber.

I have no clue why I am starving...I guess 4 scoops of whey and a navel orange isn't very much food

Baldiewonkanobi
03-12-2010, 11:20 AM
Last week I was so hungry I was almost outta my mind, had the actual shakes, so I went to (hurried to) a local fast food joint and had their Double Angus Cheese Burger served on a lettuce wrap instead of a bun and with mustard only. 4 gm carbs and fat and protein up the yangus. Did the trick as I slooooowly ate it chased down with a diet rasberry flavored green tea.

Try that.....

Baldie feelin yo pain

gman
03-12-2010, 11:21 AM
Last week I was so hungry I was almost outta my mind, had the actual shakes, so I went to (hurried to) a local fast food joint and had their Double Angus Cheese Burger served on a lettuce wrap instead of a bun and with mustard only. 4 gm carbs and fat and protein up the yangus. Did the trick as I slooooowly ate it chased down with a diet rasberry flavored green tea.

Try that.....

Baldie feelin yo pain

Would love to try it...gonna be strong though. I get an 8 oz chicken breast in 40 minutes! with 1/2 a small sweet potato. Should hold me off for a while!

gman
03-12-2010, 12:55 PM
Glad I waited...I am only 11 weeks out you know! and 15 lbs yet minimum to lose!

Got a rotisserie chicken breast from Fresh Market and am having the 1/2 sweet potato now, and I am feeling a lot better!

gman
03-12-2010, 01:07 PM
it was kind of funny in Sally Anne's pic thread from the Arnold. There was a pic of me and Paul doing side chest shots, and someone jokingly said I looked like Stan Efferding as a natty.

I pulled up a pic of him and he is a freak....maybe I need some secret sauce after all! lol

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs159.snc1/5932_1125875838890_1586981229_308048_4004803_n.jpg

blu2xtreme
03-12-2010, 01:18 PM
it was kind of funny in Sally Anne's pic thread from the Arnold. There was a pic of me and Paul doing side chest shots, and someone jokingly said I looked like Stan Efferding as a natty.

I pulled up a pic of him and he is a freak....maybe I need some secret sauce after all! lol




I see the resemblance but your cuter ;)

gman
03-12-2010, 01:21 PM
I see the resemblance but your cuter ;)

that's sweet, Paula


I wonder how much money I would have to spend on gear to even get anywhere near that size?

gman
03-12-2010, 01:22 PM
I see the resemblance but your cuter ;)

that's sweet, Paula


I wonder how much money I would have to spend on gear to even get anywhere near that size?

He is 6'1" and 240 on stage, 270 offseason, so never mind!

gman
03-12-2010, 11:06 PM
latest posing pics...hope I won't need the coach to put me exactly the right way for much longer:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/5b8a0863.jpg

gman
03-12-2010, 11:11 PM
.........

gman
03-12-2010, 11:12 PM
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/d9f19768.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/c9cd7657.jpg

gman
03-12-2010, 11:14 PM
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/8595e78d.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/313f3962.jpg

gman
03-12-2010, 11:17 PM
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/7dcbe9dc-1.jpg

gman
03-12-2010, 11:47 PM
found out from coach tonight why we don't do side relaxed turned slightly with arms twisted like they do in the pros....

it's illegal in the NPC in the state of Virginia to do it the way the pros do. Since my coach is the head judge and I am in a show he is running, I better not do it illegally!

blu2xtreme
03-13-2010, 01:03 AM
Lat and back double bi are looking great
nice looking side chest too!!!

gman
03-13-2010, 06:31 AM
Thanks, Paula.

Baldie will be happy to know my coach told me he doesn't care what I weigh or how much I have lost, he goes by how I look.

Last night Heidi worked with me mostly and Marvin interjected sometimes. He asked her what had improved the most since last time they saw me 2 weeks ago....it was delts.

I wish the fat would get done everywhere else so I could get it off my lower back and sides.

Baldiewonkanobi
03-13-2010, 07:05 AM
Your coach is correct. What you DON'T do on stage is almost more important as what you do...do. Part of the Smoke and Mirrors. As I pose now I remind myself...WE DON'T DO THAT...REMEMBER? You need to come up with a different 'Front abs/legs' pose. I don't recall if thats a NPC mandantory??

The 'reply' part of my PM is broken. Get my reply this morning?

Baldie

Mac
03-13-2010, 07:28 AM
You're looking good Mike. Your side chest is your best shot IMO.

I think your elbows are too low in both your front and double-bicep poses.

Baldie, an AB pose is a required one in NPC.

Here's the list

FRONT DOUBLE BICEP
SIDE CHEST POSE
BACK DOUBLE BICEP
TRICEP EXTENSION
ABDOMINAL POSE
FRONT LAT SPREAD
BACK LAT SPREAD
MOST MUSCULAR

AnglicanBeachParty
03-13-2010, 07:35 AM
Your coach is correct. What you DON'T do on stage is almost more important as what you do...do. Part of the Smoke and Mirrors. As I pose now I remind myself...WE DON'T DO THAT...REMEMBER? You need to come up with a different 'Front abs/legs' pose. I don't recall if thats a NPC mandantory??

Baldie, the Ab/Thigh shot is a mandatory NPC pose, but they allow many ways of doing it.

gman
03-13-2010, 09:08 AM
Your coach is correct. What you DON'T do on stage is almost more important as what you do...do. Part of the Smoke and Mirrors. As I pose now I remind myself...WE DON'T DO THAT...REMEMBER? You need to come up with a different 'Front abs/legs' pose. I don't recall if thats a NPC mandantory??

The 'reply' part of my PM is broken. Get my reply this morning?

Baldie

Yes, got your PM, 6:30 my time or yours? Better if it's 6:30 my time

The thigh ab pose is mandatory, I have never seen it done any other way. The reason I look like shit is because I am fat. Once the fat comes off I will look a lot better!

gman
03-13-2010, 09:14 AM
this is the illegal side relaxed pose

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg123/AustrianOakJr/IMG_0622Small.jpg

gman
03-13-2010, 09:15 AM
You're looking good Mike. Your side chest is your best shot IMO.

I think your elbows are too low in both your front and double-bicep poses.

Baldie, an AB pose is a required one in NPC.

Here's the list

FRONT DOUBLE BICEP
SIDE CHEST POSE
BACK DOUBLE BICEP
TRICEP EXTENSION
ABDOMINAL POSE
FRONT LAT SPREAD
BACK LAT SPREAD
MOST MUSCULAR

Thanks, Mac... I agree my elbows should be up....I had her telling me so many things I kept missing something! Last night was mostly emphasizing trying to get my lats to spread!

gman
03-13-2010, 09:16 AM
Baldie, the Ab/Thigh shot is a mandatory NPC pose, but they allow many ways of doing it.

I need to look, I don't recall any other way, but I am wrong probably!

Mac
03-13-2010, 09:24 AM
It's an AB pose, not an ab/thigh pose. Try standing with both legs together and don't crunch too much. Lift up your rib cage, shoulders and chest high and then contract your abs. If your bodyfat were lower, you could crunch more if needed but you need smoke and mirrors here.

gman
03-13-2010, 09:25 AM
It's an AB pose, not an ab/thigh pose. Try standing with both legs together and don't crunch too much. Lift up your rib cage, shoulders and chest high and then contract your abs. If your bodyfat were lower, you could crunch more if needed but you need smoke and mirrors here.

I think maybe you are right, but I have never seen anyone not stick their leg out. It acutally is called ab-thigh isolation in the jargon I read.

Especially when you have good legs, you have to draw attention to them and away from your fat ass midsection! lol

Coach could always change it as I lean out. He already changed my side relaxed because I looked to tensed up in Columbus the way I was doing it.

Mac
03-13-2010, 09:27 AM
no it's not, it's ab-thigh isolation at least in virginia. It's required to do the thigh part

Must be a Virginia thing. NPC rules page does not spell this out to include the thigh. I digress.

gman
03-13-2010, 09:30 AM
Must be a Virginia thing. NPC rules page does not spell this out to include the thigh. I digress.

not sure, I edited my post after seeing pics of other people not sticking their leg out!

I do think it's mainly because my legs are so good and my abs so bad that he has me doing it this way right now.

gman
03-13-2010, 09:32 AM
I never thought I would say I needed to bring my quads up to match my hams, but I think I do now that I see the pics!

I need to get the outer sweep especially...my legs are flat down the sides when viewed from the front!

gman
03-13-2010, 09:42 AM
here is my new and improved side relaxed

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/b79306cc.jpg

my front relaxed...have to concentrate on spreading lats without trying to use my arms to do it. arms need to stay closer to sides, and I need to avoid rolling traps over and shoulders forward...just flex my lats...I cannot feel them so it's hard to flex them:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/c06c8972.jpg

blu2xtreme
03-13-2010, 09:49 AM
The relaxed poses are looking better ...
funny how the "relaxed" is almost harder to pose

Mac
03-13-2010, 09:51 AM
Legs look f'n great! turn your feet outward just a little more to help with quad flare.

Mac
03-13-2010, 09:53 AM
Take your pictures in a slightly softer light without the guy on the treadmill. LOL

AnglicanBeachParty
03-13-2010, 09:57 AM
It's an AB pose, not an ab/thigh pose. Try standing with both legs together and don't crunch too much. Lift up your rib cage, shoulders and chest high and then contract your abs. If your bodyfat were lower, you could crunch more if needed but you need smoke and mirrors here.

That is not correct.

The NPC magazine itself calls it out as "Abdominals with One Thigh" ...

Check out Page 134 in this PDF file:

http://www.michigannpc.com/NPC%20Bodybuilding%20Division%20Rules-2010.pdf

At every NPC show I've attended, the head judge calls for: Abdominal pose, one thigh extended.

AnglicanBeachParty
03-13-2010, 09:58 AM
The relaxed poses are looking better ...
funny how the "relaxed" is almost harder to pose

I agree! Front Relaxed pose is really looking good, Mike.

Mac
03-13-2010, 09:59 AM
Ok, whatever. I copied and pasted the above from the official NPC rules page. It simply states Abdominal pose.

AnglicanBeachParty
03-13-2010, 10:08 AM
Check out Page 134 in this PDF file:

http://www.michigannpc.com/NPC%20Bodybuilding%20Division%20Rules-2010.pdf

Mike, in the picture at the bottom of that page, half the guys are doing it the way you do it. The other half have their legs all the way extended (or hyperextended) at the knee to contract the quads as much as possible. Mine look truly weak doing the second way, so I do it your way, basically.

I think you could improve it a bit by bringing your extended foot more directly in front of your body. Play around with it, and see what your posing coach thinks.

gman
03-13-2010, 10:30 AM
I will talk to the coach and at least see the reasoning....he has me lock down on the MM pose, but on the ab-thigh, he wants me to spike my calf

Mac
03-13-2010, 11:46 AM
Follow your coaches advice, not mine.

Baldiewonkanobi
03-13-2010, 11:47 AM
Thanx for joining me for breakfast this morning. How 'bout that great coffee?? The must have spiked it because all I got nap wise when I got home was 15 min. :mad:

Been thinking about all this posing talk...front, side, relaxed, what music?, mandantories and I think I have come upon a routine that is just....YOU.

YouTube- Best ever body building posing!

Baldie

Mac
03-13-2010, 11:52 AM
I will talk to the coach and at least see the reasoning....he has me lock down on the MM pose, but on the ab-thigh, he wants me to spike my calf

So it's an ab-thigh-calf pose. :yep:

gman
03-13-2010, 01:23 PM
So it's an ab-thigh-calf pose. :yep:

it's a draw-attention-away-from-abs-at-all-costs" pose

gman
03-13-2010, 01:24 PM
I just cooked up a carton egg beaters...made palatable by dumping some Frank's Hot Wing Sauce (boy is this hot), and a bunch of Land O Lakes Sharp Cheddar Seasoning.

It almost tastes good!

gman
03-13-2010, 02:05 PM
just got the Raising the Bar Trilogy in the mail! So excited to get to watch these, and get even more obsessed!

blu2xtreme
03-13-2010, 02:14 PM
just got the Raising the Bar Trilogy in the mail! So excited to get to watch these, and get even more obsessed!


Cool ...let me know how they are!
I thrive on being obsessed ...it works for some of us:p

bamazav
03-13-2010, 07:56 PM
Thanx for joining me for breakfast this morning. How 'bout that great coffee?? The must have spiked it because all I got nap wise when I got home was 15 min. :mad:

Been thinking about all this posing talk...front, side, relaxed, what music?, mandantories and I think I have come upon a routine that is just....YOU.

YouTube- Best ever body building posing! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9Jt9hfN-Ws&feature=related)

Baldie
Now I know I will be in the crowd in May. I can't even imagine Mike doing the robot, the wave or any other form of a break dance. I want to be sure to get this on video. :yep:

gman
03-13-2010, 08:07 PM
I will see if Marvin thinks I can do the robot!

gman
03-14-2010, 01:42 PM
Went to Y and did side delts. They need to get bigger so decided to try to work them 2x a week for fun

hammer grip lateral: 4 sets
incline db laterals normal grip: 4 sets
cable laterals: 4 sets

ab roller 2 sets of 20

posing afterwards

bamazav
03-14-2010, 03:28 PM
Good job Mike. Lats feel like toast?

Missed you yesterday, long day.

gman
03-14-2010, 08:24 PM
Good job Mike. Lats feel like toast?

Missed you yesterday, long day.

not lats David, lateral raises!

Middle delt! Not sore right now, maybe in the morning they will be!

gman
03-14-2010, 08:54 PM
taking Baldie's advice and adding calf training back in starting tomorrow on leg day!

blu2xtreme
03-15-2010, 12:33 AM
taking Baldie's advice and adding calf training back in starting tomorrow on leg day!

Mike with better calves ....scary :hypno:

Hope you had a great Sunday and an even better Monday :)

gman
03-15-2010, 09:20 AM
problem is, I didn't do them again today, Paula...time change messed me up and I woke up at 6:15...my body thinks it was 515.

Did legs, but no calves:

feet together squats: 20/135 12/185 10/205 10/205
sldl: 12/205 10/225 8/245 7/245
close stance leg press, feet low on sled: 20/8 plates, 14/12 plates 13/12 12/12

that's it. pretty wimpy

freebirdmac
03-15-2010, 09:31 AM
I really hate this time change crap!!!

Baldiewonkanobi
03-15-2010, 11:04 AM
Just when you think you have Gods gift of calfs.....


Baldie

gman
03-15-2010, 11:32 AM
I have tears streaming down my face now...my dreams have been shattered!

gman
03-15-2010, 12:33 PM
I really hate this time change crap!!!

me too...wasn't tired at 10 because my body thought it was only 9

but then I wake up at what my body thought was the normal time and it was an hour late

bodyhard
03-15-2010, 01:10 PM
me too...wasn't tired at 10 because my body thought it was only 9

but then I wake up at what my body thought was the normal time and it was an hour late

I honestly don't know why the time change bothers anyone, the shit doesn't do a goddamn thing to me, honestly, I don't even fucking feel the difference. Same shit different day.

gman
03-15-2010, 01:10 PM
I woke up at the same time John, the clock was just different! It's not me, it's the clock

bodyhard
03-15-2010, 01:15 PM
I woke up at the same time John, the clock was just different! It's not me, it's the clock


LOL, I hear ya man, but my wife and just people around me in general are always saying "Aww man we lost an hour, it is throwing me off" Or "Yes today we get back an hour"

And I am like what the fuck are you talking a bout, its all the same fucking thing, but then again I can get up whenever I feel like it :D :D

gman
03-15-2010, 01:17 PM
i thought you never slept anyway!

bodyhard
03-15-2010, 01:19 PM
i thought you never slept anyway!


LOL me?? Man all i do is sleep, I just don't go to sleep early like you guys. I will go to sleep like 2-3 in the AM and then wake up at like 12:00 or 1. But lately because of my pup I been getting up early like 9:30 ish.

gman
03-15-2010, 01:19 PM
I took my blood pressure at mom's yesterday:

108/67 !!!!! About the best ever

bodyhard
03-15-2010, 01:21 PM
I took my blood pressure at mom's yesterday:

108/67 !!!!! About the best ever


Is that good? Seriously I don't know shit about blood pressure.

gman
03-15-2010, 01:32 PM
Is that good? Seriously I don't know shit about blood pressure.

it's the blood pressure of a 18 year old.

I always was running 130/95 most of my life, even when I was 18

bodyhard
03-15-2010, 01:40 PM
it's the blood pressure of a 18 year old.

I always was running 130/95 most of my life, even when I was 18


What about an 18 year old that has high blood pressure?

Can you be more specific?

What is a good highblood pressure in general regardless of age?

I know I am lazy I hate fucking searching shit :D

gman
03-15-2010, 01:45 PM
120/70 is really good I believe

130 on the top is getting to be high
85 on the bottom is getting to be high.

you can have high top number and normal bottom, or vice versa.

Not sure if this is true, but I heard the top number is the stroke risk when high, and the bottom number is the heart attack risk when high...could be old wives tale

bodyhard
03-15-2010, 01:47 PM
120/70 is really good I believe

130 on the top is getting to be high
85 on the bottom is getting to be high.

you can have high top number and normal bottom, or vice versa.

Not sure if this is true, but I heard the top number is the stroke risk when high, and the bottom number is the heart attack risk when high...could be old wives tale


Thanks man!

gman
03-15-2010, 04:39 PM
I ordered the Raising the Bar trilogy from Mike Pulcinella...I am in the middle of the first DVD and it is really awesome. Well worth $54 for all 3. I am seeing bodybuilding from the inside, and it reaffirms my obsession so far.

I am totally amazed at how much Dave Pulcinella was eating while cutting. 21 egg whites and 3 whole eggs for meal 1, for example

Mac
03-15-2010, 04:42 PM
When you're done watching the DVDs, send them to me.

gman
03-15-2010, 04:46 PM
When you're done watching the DVDs, send them to me.

I will trade for your "Secrets of Big Delts" DVD

Mac
03-15-2010, 04:54 PM
I will trade for your "Secrets of Big Delts" DVD

OK, that's a fair and easy trade. I don't have a DVD though.

You know what blasted my delts the best?

Heavy DB Rows - 6-8 reps with the 150s - 10lbs under my BW
my laterals always hurt after these

Heavy DB lateral fly - one DB at a time - lose form but under control the entire way

Lots of Rear delt machine and cables from the bottom.

MsGuns
03-15-2010, 05:11 PM
Mike, I forgot to see my clock fwd and was late to church yesterday....uugghh
OMG who's (whose) calf shot was that? DAYUM!

gman
03-15-2010, 10:41 PM
Mike, I forgot to see my clock fwd and was late to church yesterday....uugghh
OMG who's (whose) calf shot was that? DAYUM!

don't know whose calf that was, but it was sick!

gman
03-15-2010, 10:42 PM
since Paul put up his before pic, I had to do the same...this is about 3 weeks after I started lifting in 2005, Julyish.

about 235-240 lbs and covered in fur:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/beforefront.jpg

blu2xtreme
03-15-2010, 10:43 PM
since Paul put up his before pic, I had to do the same...this is about 3 weeks after I started lifting in 2005, Julyish.

about 235-240 lbs and covered in fur:



Your about as furry as a Buffalo :p

You have done amazing stuff ....proud of you

Mac
03-15-2010, 10:45 PM
since Paul put up his before pic, I had to do the same...this is about 3 weeks after I started lifting in 2005, Julyish.

about 235-240 lbs and covered in fur:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/beforefront.jpg

Holy shit gman. I don't recall seeing this picture. Incredible transformation.

gman
03-15-2010, 10:51 PM
this was me at almost the peak of fatness. I had actually lost 5-7 lbs before this pic was taken.

can you believe my chiro could see a bodybuilder in there somewhere...something about good symmetry.

gman
03-16-2010, 05:24 AM
finished watching Raising the Bar 1 last night. I am determined not to be one of the guys Mike Pulcinella filmed up there who he said didn't belong because of lack of conditioning!

Great movie by the way

On to RTB 2!

gman
03-16-2010, 05:26 AM
Your about as furry as a Buffalo :p

You have done amazing stuff ....proud of you

didn't see this last night Paula..

thank you, I done pretty good for an old guy.

pretty much 40 years of neglect and I still managed to do something good...our bodies do forgive us sometimes