Mike and Paula's Journal of Life, Love and Ever-Changing Goals

[Oldsuperman]

I would love to get a career out in vegas when I am done with school I could really be living the dream then... Wouldnt have to worry about snow anymore or being cold, just getting big and cleaning water... Thats what I dream about lol

My brother lives outside of Vegas about 30 miles, Logandale. They love it. I like it except for summer. 110 plus heat is just to freakin HOT HOT HOT!!! Vegas sucks. Been going there on business for years about twice a year and it's just the same ol shit over and over again. The shows are great just so much fucking money! I usually find the free shows in one of the casino bars and park myself drinking diet.


not sure if I would like the heat...I hate Va Beach in the summer.

I would love to live in Tahoe or Flagstaff.

Me too! Love Tahoe and Flagstaff!

[blu2xtreme]

My brother lives outside of Vegas about 30 miles, Logandale. They love it. I like it except for summer. 110 plus heat is just to freakin HOT HOT HOT!!! Vegas sucks. Been going there on business for years about twice a year and it's just the same ol shit over and over again. The shows are great just so much fucking money! I usually find the free shows in one of the casino bars and park myself drinking diet.



Me too! Love Tahoe and Flagstaff!

I go Atv riding out in Logandale all the time - might go with my brothers family Sat. - my Australian Cattle dog came from a ranch in Lodandale.

[gman]

chest day

Decline pushups, sort of to warm up the shoulders: 50 35
Power presses off the rack...lower to rack and start over each rep: 8/185 5/205 5/205
Incline bb presses: 10/155 5/175 5/165 4/165
Incline db presses, higher angle than bb ones: 6/70 6/65 5/65 5/60 6/60
Incline flys, low incline: 7/50 6/50 6/50
Low to high cable flys: 9/60 10/60 8/60

60 minutes on exercise bike...would not pick up my heart rate, I must be dead

[gman]

Baldie gave me the idea to put my goals down on paper (or cyberpaper)

10% bf by Christmas (about 190lbs)
4% by Arnold
Then cruise at 10% for a few weeks, cut again and do my first show, the Lenda Murray in Norfolk.
Reassess based on how I do and feel at that show but tentatively I want to then make the move to strongman, but stay under 200lbs forever.

[Down4whatever]

Baldie gave me the idea to put my goals down on paper (or cyberpaper)

10% bf by Christmas (about 190lbs)
4% by Arnold
Then cruise at 10% for a few weeks, cut again and do my first show, the Lenda Murray in Norfolk.
Reassess based on how I do and feel at that show but tentatively I want to then make the move to strongman, but stay under 200lbs forever.

I like it!! Sounds close to what I would like to do, but mine is on a longer time-line and I choose PL'ing instead of Strongman.

Good stuff, Mike! I'd like to change careers to something athletic related within 5 years....yeah right :dunno:

[gman]

I am looking at opening a supplement store...first one will be run by good friend here...second one by you, 3rd one by me.

Sound like a plan?

the longer I am a CPA, the more I can't stand it...I like people too much now..can't stand sitting still and doing numbers anymore.

If I find a cash box of $100s in my attic, I will quit tomorrow

[Down4whatever]

I am looking at opening a supplement store...first one will be run by good friend here...second one by you, 3rd one by me.

Sound like a plan?

the longer I am a CPA, the more I can't stand it...I like people too much now..can't stand sitting still and doing numbers anymore.

If I find a cash box of $100s in my attic, I will quit tomorrow


Sounds awesome!!! I'm curently downsizing my lifestyle--paying off debt and should be ready to live off 35-40k within the next 3 years. We'll see.

When are you opening the first one?

[gman]

Still doing due diligence work which is a fancy name for doing spreadsheet to see if it will make money.

If I do it, first one will be in May after tax season...possibility that my son may run it after he graduates from UVA this May...also have a good friend here who has an interest. Now I need to figure out where to get 30k to put into it.

It will cost about 75 k up front, and I figure I need 30k of my own to get the bank to loan me the rest. There's the rub...I have one nickel to rub together. COuld cash in my Roth IRA, I guess.

[Down4whatever]

Yeah, run the numbers 10 times before dipping into retirement......then run them again...scary shiz. I have nothing and I'm tired of it. Sounds cliche, but if I'd quit getting involved with irresponsible women, I'd be much better off. (I can't push all the blame on them though)

[gman]

retiring is never going to happen for me anyway, I have 35k in my IRA...too late to start now.

[gman]

206.6 today...progress of any kind is still progress!

[freebirdmac]

If you pay attention to the food allergy people you'll get extra business :)

[gman]

wanna be my partner and be in charge of that?

Actually the stores are too small now to carry a huge variety of items and tend toward fitness centered supplements, but they do want to get more generalized over time.

It's a small local chain that is just starting to franchise.

[freebirdmac]

It doesn't have to be a huge variety. For example I use CEE, BCAA, Glutamine, beta-alanine powders to avoid the crap in pills and other mixes. Baldy may be onto a pea protein w/o sulfites.

[gman]

they do carry almost all the NOW line of supplements including those you mention...they even have them on the shelf in alphabetical order...how cool is that?

[Baldiewonkanobi]

Hey you all are not alone on the dream of getting into the 'industry'. I failed at Bodybuilding clothing in the 90s even with the OP Ocean Pacific guys on board. I am that 16 year old white kid in northern Canada dreaming that hockey will get him out of the village and to the city lights...I am that 18 year old black kid shooting baskets until midnight in Compton, Ca. dreaming that basketball will score him a big crib and some major bling.

If I make it to the Vegas suppliment show I will be in front of people like BioCell who patented Hyaluronic acid oral delivery. I can show them MRIs of my bone on bone knees and Docs reccomendation for knee replacements with a video of me leg pressing 800 pounds for reps. I should be their spokesman. (would need to get these teeth capped first). I will see others with a similar message. I am always workin to get out of the ghetto.

Baldie

[Bacon Boy]

wanna be my partner and be in charge of that?

Actually the stores are too small now to carry a huge variety of items and tend toward fitness centered supplements, but they do want to get more generalized over time.

It's a small local chain that is just starting to franchise.

Don't forget about me but this is outside the scope of what I am going to school for lol, so maybe not then but still it would pretty cool to get in that deep, I would just need enough $ to pay bills and living expenses, supps, and competition fees lol:drool:

[gman]

Don't forget about me but this is outside the scope of what I am going to school for lol, so maybe not then but still it would pretty cool to get in that deep, I would just need enough $ to pay bills and living expenses, supps, and competition fees lol:drool:

hey you could live at the beach too, how cool would that be

[Bacon Boy]

Honestly I would perfer beach as long as it doesnt get cold!

[gman]

gets cold here in the winter...spring summer and fall are nice

[Shadow]

Baldie gave me the idea to put my goals down on paper (or cyberpaper)

10% bf by Christmas (about 190lbs)
4% by Arnold
Then cruise at 10% for a few weeks, cut again and do my first show, the Lenda Murray in Norfolk.
Reassess based on how I do and feel at that show but tentatively I want to then make the move to strongman, but stay under 200lbs forever.

I'm thinking of making that my first show as well. Probably not next year, but the year after. It's a national qualifier, right?

[gman]

yes I believe it is a qualifier..

i just want to motorboat your avatar

[Shadow]

yes I believe it is a qualifier..

i just want to motorboat your avatar

LOL, me too. :yep:

[gman]

I am getting so tired of getting so tired....it started earlier than usual today. I feel like going to bed and it's only noon, I usually make it to 3 before this feeling hits.

[Down4whatever]

I am getting so tired of getting so tired....it started earlier than usual today. I feel like going to bed and it's only noon, I usually make it to 3 before this feeling hits.


I feel for ya......that's the number one reason why I don't do keto; I fall apart without carbs. :(

[gman]

I may have to do a cheat meal soon, I am wiped out. I wanted to get under 200 first, but that's at least 6 weeks away...I am at 30 days with no carbs now.

[Down4whatever]

I may have to do a cheat meal soon, I am wiped out. I wanted to get under 200 first, but that's at least 6 weeks away...I am at 30 days with no carbs now.

I think you should....with one caveat--give up the scale for 2 solid weeks. This starving yourself is making you obsess about the scale again, dawg.

Have you ever tried a simple 250P, 150C, 60F meal plan? Seems to me it would be easier on you and cardio would be your wild card.

[Baldiewonkanobi]

I prefer keeping Mickey all fucked up and bouncing off the walls like a windup toy in a shoe box.

Baldie

[gman]

I think you should....with one caveat--give up the scale for 2 solid weeks. This starving yourself is making you obsess about the scale again, dawg.

Have you ever tried a simple 250P, 150C, 60F meal plan? Seems to me it would be easier on you and cardio would be your wild card.

normally would agree...time is short and obsessing is actually correct now! lol

32 lbs in 16 weeks, it is all about obsessing unfortunately.

The lesson learned is to never let myself get above 190-195 ever again.


I prefer keeping Mickey all fucked up and bouncing off the walls like a windup toy in a shoe box.

Baldie

I love it, don't you!

actually popped 2 VPX Meltdowns, they should be kicking in any time now.

[Down4whatever]

Only reason I say give up the scale is that you really have very little options on variables to change--food is at the bare minimum--cardio is virtually maxed out.

I just thought taking a few weeks off from measuring would work nicely for you, but I guess we're all built differently and are driven by different motivators :dunno:

[gman]

In theory you are right, in practice, if I don't weigh every day, I put weight on so fast I might as well give up...I have to be OCD on this shit or it doesn't work.

i hear tell of people doing upwards of 3 hours of cardio a day in contest prep...in fact, I believe i heard that out of Esplendido of all people...not sure if it was him, but it seems it was.

[joedemarco]

I may have to do a cheat meal soon, I am wiped out. I wanted to get under 200 first, but that's at least 6 weeks away...I am at 30 days with no carbs now.

If you're following a keto diet plan, why aren't you doing a weekly cheat meal? According to Dave, that's part of the plan.

[gman]

I did Dave's plan from Dave himself...the cheat meal destroyed my whole week's progress. I spent then entire next week just getting back to square again.

I was eating 2700 calories a day and doing 110minutes of cardio a day toward the end...and losing no weight. I would gain 4 lbs on the cheat meal, and then lose 3-4 the whole next week.

In all fairness, towards the end Dave told me to limit my carbs on cheat meal to less than 100g, and I gave up shortly thereafter...12 weeks in.

[joedemarco]

I did Dave's plan from Dave himself...the cheat meal destroyed my whole week's progress. I spent then entire next week just getting back to square again.

Maybe you were over eating on your cheat meal? A lot of people turn a Saturday evening "cheat meal" into a 10,000 calorie day....lol

[gman]

Maybe you were over eating on your cheat meal? A lot of people turn a Saturday evening "cheat meal" into a 10,000 calorie day....lol

Exactly....I was doing the 25 year old heavy AAS user cheat meal.

I don't think 10,000, but probably 4,000-5,000 cals on cheat meal day.

Doesn't seem like a cheat meal unless you get to really cheat! :)

when he said limit carbs to 100g, I remember thinking WTF kind of cheat meal is that? I get to eat a baked potato as my cheat meal...lol

If anyone can talk me into doing one every week or two, give me a suggestion or two on what to eat, and convince me I won't gain weight from it...I am all ears.

[freebirdmac]

In theory you are right, in practice, if I don't weigh every day, I put weight on so fast I might as well give up...I have to be OCD on this shit or it doesn't work.

i hear tell of people doing upwards of 3 hours of cardio a day in contest prep...in fact, I believe i heard that out of Esplendido of all people...not sure if it was him, but it seems it was.

***cough***bs***cough*** You see water fluctuations and freak out. In the past your weekly weekend cheats were pretty lousy and left you feeling bloated and fat for a week. Then you'd repeat. Seeing daily weight changes (water) just screws with your head. You're chained to that damn scale and keep forgetting how it lies to you. Giving up is just being weak-willed and falling off your diet. Saying your body just won't lose fat.

Do the required carb up. Plan the foods and keep it clean. Don't exceed the calorie limits. Do it right. Lord knows if you can't get your diet under control and be comfortable with it now, you're screwed as soon as you stop this diet plan.

You're like a drug addict. Your brain is fucking with you and trying to get you to go back to your old way of eating. It's trying to convince you that you were destined to be fat so why try. Why go through this pain? And you're listening again.

[gman]

you told me to plan and keep it clean...how much more OCD is that than weighing every day?

this is a sprint this time. I have no alternative but to lose 32lbs in 16 weeks. Not generalities about lifelong eating habits...this is war.

And I am not going to give into my brain this time...I am better than that.

[joedemarco]

Exactly....I was doing the 25 year old heavy AAS user cheat meal.

I don't think 10,000, but probably 4,000-5,000 cals on cheat meal day.

Doesn't seem like a cheat meal unless you get to really cheat! :)

when he said limit carbs to 100g, I remember thinking WTF kind of cheat meal is that? I get to eat a baked potato as my cheat meal...lol

If anyone can talk me into doing one every week or two, give me a suggestion or two on what to eat, and convince me I won't gain weight from it...I am all ears.

Some Saturdays, I would use a egg plant parm sub and some french fries. It would fill/satisfy me and not cause any problems for me weight wise. (Of course, I never would weigh myself on Sunday mornings).

Pretty much whatever I was craving during the week, I would use as my cheat meal on Saturday. The cheat meal would work wonders for me. By Monday of the following week, I would always feel leaner and more ripped. If you are doing keto, you have to throw in a cheat meal. You are doing yourself more harm then good by not having a weekly cheat meal.

[gman]

I will try it Joe...I am just so afraid to do it...

I need to do it reasonably, like eat at Outback and get a sweet potato with my steak, maybe a slice or two of that yummy bread, and nothing more than that.

I used to listen to the hyped up claims of people on here that would talk about eating nonstop for 2 hours, ice cream, cookies, spaghetti, pizza, and then say they were down 10lbs 2 days later...

Not going to do that again... (see Pam, I do listen to you just don't like hearing the truth sometimes)

[freebirdmac]

you told me to plan and keep it clean...how much more OCD is that than weighing every day?

this is a sprint this time. I have no alternative but to lose 32lbs in 16 weeks. Not generalities about lifelong eating habits...this is war.

And I am not going to give into my brain this time...I am better than that.

I was referring specifically to the carb up meal. Good carbs like sweet potato, oats, a banana... not alcohol, or hot dogs, or BBQ. Plan it out.

[freebirdmac]

I will try it Joe...I am just so afraid to do it...

I need to do it reasonably, like eat at Outback and get a sweet potato with my steak, maybe a slice or two of that yummy bread, and nothing more than that.

I used to listen to the hyped up claims of people on here that would talk about eating nonstop for 2 hours, ice cream, cookies, spaghetti, pizza, and then say they were down 10lbs 2 days later...

Not going to do that again... (see Pam, I do listen to you just don't like hearing the truth sometimes)

Don't waste your carb up on bread. You need to make the most of the carbs you eat by eating ones that will do something for you. Taste buds don't count.

[gman]

I was referring specifically to the carb up meal. Good carbs like sweet potato, oats, a banana... not alcohol, or hot dogs, or BBQ. Plan it out.

sorry I snapped. I knew what you meant...

need to be deliberate on my cheats...not just go to a party and eat because it's cheat meal day.

[Baldiewonkanobi]

Well Mike this is looking more and more like a collective effort to push you across the finish line....like it or not. Quite a pit crew you are putting together.

Baldie

[gman]

If I don't make it with this kind of support, I might as well go drive off a bridge!

I am in it to win this time. I have used every excuse and rationalization in God's creation, and am not going to do it anymore. I have said this before...it is not that hard it just takes consistency and determination.

[gman]

I think I am going to start taking these Meltdowns more often...I feel great now that they kicked in...who the hell knows if they burn fat or not, but they at least wake me up.

[joedemarco]

Don't waste your carb up on bread. You need to make the most of the carbs you eat by eating ones that will do something for you. Taste buds don't count.

I disagree, when it comes to a cheat meal on a keto diet. Taste buds do count. A cheat meal is simply a weekly meal added in to satisfy your cravings and stimulate your metabolism. If I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong, the cheat meal also keeps your thyroid functioning properly while on a keto diet.

[Down4whatever]

I think I am going to start taking these Meltdowns more often...I feel great now that they kicked in...who the hell knows if they burn fat or not, but they at least wake me up.

You're a walking billboard for your potentially new business :yep:

[freebirdmac]

I disagree, when it comes to a cheat meal on a keto diet. Taste buds do count. A cheat meal is simply a weekly meal added in to satisfy your cravings and stimulate your metabolism. If I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong, the cheat meal also keeps your thyroid functioning properly while on a keto diet.

Not if it means going overboard. If you're vulnerable to the white flour/junk/processed foods it can be a disaster. Outback's bread may taste really good, but you're better off staying away and getting some real nutritional value out of those carbs. The thyroid/metabolism doesn't need empty carbs. Especially at a deficit.

[TheTransformator]

G...go by the mirror...leave the scale for what it is...your bodyweight will fluctuate during the day anyway...it is not a machine...just do your thing and try to weigh yourself a minimal amount...that stress...extra cortisol...will do you no good at all...keep at it...!

[joedemarco]

Not if it means going overboard. If you're vulnerable to the white flour/junk/processed foods it can be a disaster. Outback's bread may taste really good, but you're better off staying away and getting some real nutritional value out of those carbs. The thyroid/metabolism doesn't need empty carbs. Especially at a deficit.

I agree, that going overboard is a major problem for a lot of people in regards to a weekly cheat meal. It shouldn't be a "sugar feast" by any means. According to Dave, a cheat meal is something relatively simple such as a burger and fries. It's not pizza, ice cream, cookies, etc.

However, as I stated earlier, it should be something you enjoy and satisfies your cravings. You don't have to be overly concerned with the meal being "nutritious".

[gman]

You're a walking billboard for your potentially new business :yep:

now the weirdness feeling is setting in from these things...the kind of hyper feeling in the pit of your stomach


Not if it means going overboard. If you're vulnerable to the white flour/junk/processed foods it can be a disaster. Outback's bread may taste really good, but you're better off staying away and getting some real nutritional value out of those carbs. The thyroid/metabolism doesn't need empty carbs. Especially at a deficit.

hey, I resemble that remark!


G...go by the mirror...leave the scale for what it is...your bodyweight will fluctuate during the day anyway...it is not a machine...just do your thing and try to weigh yourself a minimal amount...that stress...extra cortisol...will do you no good at all...keep at it...!

trying to do better T....I always weigh at the same time...right after getting up and going to the bathroom. It's a hard habit to break weighing every day...people who are chronic overweight folks like me just are so programmed to do it. I am going to do my best to stay off. Taping the waist at the navel is so much more telling.


I agree, that going overboard is a major problem for a lot of people in regards to a weekly cheat meal. It shouldn't be a "sugar feast" by any means. According to Dave, a cheat meal is something relatively simple such as a burger and fries. It's not pizza, ice cream, cookies, etc.

However, as I stated earlier, it should be something you enjoy and satisfies your cravings. You don't have to be overly concerned with the meal being "nutritious".

Will do one and not go overboard...I promise. Now need to decide when to do it.

[freebirdmac]

I agree, that going overboard is a major problem for a lot of people in regards to a weekly cheat meal. It shouldn't be a "sugar feast" by any means. According to Dave, a cheat meal is something relatively simple such as a burger and fries. It's not pizza, ice cream, cookies, etc.

However, as I stated earlier, it should be something you enjoy and satisfies your cravings. You don't have to be overly concerned with the meal being "nutritious".

Mike is an outliner here. He's been down this path before. his cheats tear him up psychologically. The resulting bloat and scale gain just kills him. He loses all confidence that he's losing fat. For others who know their bodies it's not such a big deal. I also disagree that nutrition isn't a consideration.

Hamburger and fries. To me that's a cheat meal for maintenance or bulking. All you're getting is bread and fried potatoes.

[gman]

thinking sushi right now.

or steak and baked potato

chili made with hamburger and beans is also high on my list.

I am Mike and I am a cheatoholic...Pam is right, I have a real mind game problem doing them...if I do them a lot more reasonably I have a fighting chance to be successful.

[freebirdmac]

Sounds like you have your carb up meals planned for the next three weeks! Oh! Thanksgiving is in 3 weeks!

[gman]

had that one planned weeks ago!

I had it already planned to eat one serving of stuffing, one serving of potatoes with gravy, and one slice of pumpkin pie with dream whip.

Lots and lots of turkey breast, green beans to make up the difference!

[blu2xtreme]

Great new avi Mike....
Lookin sexy ;)

[freebirdmac]

had that one planned weeks ago!

I had it already planned to eat one serving of stuffing, one serving of potatoes with gravy, and one slice of pumpkin pie with dream whip.

Lots and lots of turkey breast, green beans to make up the difference!

Now that's a great cheat meal!

[gman]

Great new avi Mike....
Lookin sexy ;)

Thanks, Blu.

I am getting there slowly but surely


Now that's a great cheat meal!

I wish Thanksgiving came more often...it's my favorite meal!

[Baldiewonkanobi]

I disagree, when it comes to a cheat meal on a keto diet. Taste buds do count. A cheat meal is simply a weekly meal added in to satisfy your cravings and stimulate your metabolism. If I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong, the cheat meal also keeps your thyroid functioning properly while on a keto diet.

Google Leptin. Leptin lasts 2 weeks before it needs a re charge.

Baldie

[gman]

so you're saying I am doing pretty good for a leptin depleted guy?

[gman]

Although leptin is a circulating signal that reduces appetite, in general, obese people have an unusually high circulating concentration of leptin.[23] These people are said to be resistant to the effects of leptin, in much the same way that people with type 2 diabetes are resistant to the effects of insulin. The high sustained concentrations of leptin from the enlarged adipose stores result in leptin desensitization. The pathway of leptin control in obese people might be flawed at some point so the body doesn't adequately receive the satiety feeling subsequent to eating.

Baldie, I just don't understand what doing keto has to do in any way with the above statement. Or why you would need to replenish leptin every two weeks by cheating and eating a shitload of carbs

[joedemarco]

Mike is an outliner here. He's been down this path before. his cheats tear him up psychologically. The resulting bloat and scale gain just kills him. He loses all confidence that he's losing fat. For others who know their bodies it's not such a big deal. I also disagree that nutrition isn't a consideration.

Hamburger and fries. To me that's a cheat meal for maintenance or bulking. All you're getting is bread and fried potatoes.

I think most would agree that Dave Palumbo is "the man" when it comes to the keto diet for contest prep. If I'm not mistaken, Dave has mentioned in the past that the burger and fries was one of his favorite cheat meals during contest prep. You really need to read some of his articles/post on this subject. A good source is Dave's Q&A thread. He answers many detailed questions about his keto contest diet and the associated cheat meals.

[gman]

I worked with him, Joe...I just was too self defeating at the time. I will definitely consider hiring him again when I am in real contest prep next summer.

[fitbody]

I worked with him, Joe...I just was too self defeating at the time. I will definitely consider hiring him again when I am in real contest prep next summer.

TRAINING with DAVE PALUMBO why would you consider it ?
why wouldn' you just hire him now ?
at $1000 / yr for diet, training, coaching, off season, precontest, right thru show, unlimited emails, for less than $100 / month
here's the link for training prices http://davepalumbo.com/ProductsPages/consutlingservices.htm#16wk

4 month offseason is $400
16 wk precontest is $500

i give him my highest recommendation as a trainer / coach
i'm on my 2nd yr with him
and he's stuck with me for life

here's his email: Dave Palumbo: [email protected]
tell him i sent you ! :)

[gman]

I did hire him, FB!

I was working with him, not just following his diet! I gave up after 12 weeks...I wasn't very successful at it. I couldn't take the cardio at 110 minutes a day....I was doing it all post workout because it was tax season, doing it in two sessions was not an option.

Cash flow is not there right now for it, my profession is very seasonal, and I am a couple of paychecks behind right now, or it would be very tempting to hire him for the Arnold Challenge. I paid for my trip with credit card miles!

[fitbody]

I did hire him, FB!

I was working with him, not just following his diet! I gave up after 12 weeks...I wasn't very successful at it. I couldn't take the cardio at 110 minutes a day....I was doing it all post workout because it was tax season, doing it in two sessions was not an option.

Cash flow is not there right now for it, my profession is very seasonal, and I am a couple of paychecks behind right now, or it would be very tempting to hire him for the Arnold Challenge. I paid for my trip with credit card miles!

i read where you did hire him...
timing has to be right too though eh...
and yeah i dig it on the dough right now
PT is slower than ever been in my life
economy is sucking up here, i held longer than most, but feelin it now
at least you got some of the knowledge from him...
his coaching is unparelleled the support & care he gives is amazing
i wish you all the best Gman !;)

[gman]

I recommend him highly too FB! He responded to every email I sent him within four hours...most of the time within an hour...and I bombarded him at first. I love keto and feel good on it most of the time...I probably am tired now because I am not doing my carb meal like I should be. I feel ready though, I have gone a month and have had only a couple of bad moments.

Hope the economy gets better for you up there. Like I said, I feel blessed that you are hanging around with us..

[gman]

VPX meltdown has worn off...going to bed at 8 tonight. I hate being so tired. hope the jets don't go all out tonight.

[Baldiewonkanobi]

Just checked your VPX fix....Synephrine...zowie...thats in my just before I lift drink...Getyourrocksoff XM Plus. Love the shit. I'm sadly HOOKED.

Baldie

[Oldsuperman]

I go Atv riding out in Logandale all the time - might go with my brothers family Sat. - my Australian Cattle dog came from a ranch in Lodandale.

I go into the Mesa and ride to everytime I visit! Blast!!!!


yes I believe it is a qualifier..

i just want to motorboat your avatar

Hmmmmm...... :bouncy:

Mike! I just gotta say, your Avi look amazing! God I'm proud of ya brother!!! :hmn:

[blu2xtreme]

I go into the Mesa and ride to everytime I visit! Blast!!!!



This taken at the Logandale trails ...way fun:yep:

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/Jan2009004.jpg

[fitbody]

I recommend him highly too FB! He responded to every email I sent him within four hours...most of the time within an hour...and I bombarded him at first. I love keto and feel good on it most of the time...I probably am tired now because I am not doing my carb meal like I should be. I feel ready though, I have gone a month and have had only a couple of bad moments.

Hope the economy gets better for you up there. Like I said, I feel blessed that you are hanging around with us..

l know Dave amazes me
i got him to help me with some of my clients this yr
my training partner compete at BC's
when she came out onstage i was like oh oh...
i emailed Dave on my blkberry
he got right back to me to tell me what to do with her...

i worked with another trainer IFBB pro cost me a fortune
wouldn't return emails, texts, calls, it was aweful
Dave answers all his own emails and response quickly to each one
not only the support but guidance in every aspect
he's always been there for me when i needed him
he's never let me down
HE'S THE EPITOME OF AN INCREDIBLE COACH
he's got me as a client for life !

makes sure you are gettin all your fats !
are you takin Omegalyze ???
cuz if you aren't and you're doing a non-fat day it'll really help
try to afford those
and get off the damn stimulants
they'll fuck you up and make you more tired than without them
yeah when you''re wire you're rockin' but then crashing
Dave recommends no stimulants eh
but then you would know that
the lipolyze & somalyze work good by Species no stimulants in there...

[fitbody]

Like I said, I feel blessed that you are hanging around with us..

you're sweet !
maybe i'm ride your ass seein' Bucky went a-wall on us all !??:confused:
where is that man ???
probably working himself into the ground
either that or gettin laid ;)

[blu2xtreme]

Mike - Hijacking your thread - your thread seems to get the most love and I work all day ...like a real person:) so I will leave my question to your care.

Gloves? Have always worn and will always wear them but these last few weeks even wearing gloves I am getting callous and doing the back workout tonight hurt by hands bad especially the area getting callouses.
I wear a thinner glove because my hands are tiny and gripping the bar was hard in the past with padded gloves.
I am a dental assistant and my hands hurting is not a good thing.
I need glove suggestions and if versa grips are a good option for the pull exercises?
Thanks Mike for letting be use you- I owe you;)

[gman]

Just checked your VPX fix....Synephrine...zowie...thats in my just before I lift drink...Getyourrocksoff XM Plus. Love the shit. I'm sadly HOOKED.

Baldie

Just think on VPX bottle, I believe it says to take 2 3x a day...hell I would probably explode if I did that.


I go into the Mesa and ride to everytime I visit! Blast!!!!



Hmmmmm...... :bouncy:

Mike! I just gotta say, your Avi look amazing! God I'm proud of ya brother!!! :hmn:

Thanks Ed...my wife saw that pic and said "Is that you?"

[gman]

l know Dave amazes me
i got him to help me with some of my clients this yr
my training partner compete at BC's
when she came out onstage i was like oh oh...
i emailed Dave on my blkberry
he got right back to me to tell me what to do with her...

i worked with another trainer IFBB pro cost me a fortune
wouldn't return emails, texts, calls, it was aweful
Dave answers all his own emails and response quickly to each one
not only the support but guidance in every aspect
he's always been there for me when i needed him
he's never let me down
HE'S THE EPITOME OF AN INCREDIBLE COACH
he's got me as a client for life !

makes sure you are gettin all your fats !
are you takin Omegalyze ???
cuz if you aren't and you're doing a non-fat day it'll really help
try to afford those
and get off the damn stimulants
they'll fuck you up and make you more tired than without them
yeah when you''re wire you're rockin' but then crashing
Dave recommends no stimulants eh
but then you would know that
the lipolyze & somalyze work good by Species no stimulants in there...

I am taking 6 fish oils a day per doctor orders. I got bad HDL cholesterol, so am taking lots of fish oil and niacin. He wants me to try krill oil after the fish oil is gone, it is supposed to be better for you and a smaller dose needed.
I know the stimulants aren't the best thing, just needed them yesterday so bad just to keep from falling asleep.



you're sweet !
maybe i'm ride your ass seein' Bucky went a-wall on us all !??:confused:
where is that man ???
probably working himself into the ground
either that or gettin laid ;)

If Buck doesn't show up soon (or even if he does), I can always use the ass-kicking.

I think he saw my pic and is afraid now.

[gman]

Mike - Hijacking your thread - your thread seems to get the most love and I work all day ...like a real person:) so I will leave my question to your care.

Gloves? Have always worn and will always wear them but these last few weeks even wearing gloves I am getting callous and doing the back workout tonight hurt by hands bad especially the area getting callouses.
I wear a thinner glove because my hands are tiny and gripping the bar was hard in the past with padded gloves.
I am a dental assistant and my hands hurting is not a good thing.
I need glove suggestions and if versa grips are a good option for the pull exercises?
Thanks Mike for letting be use you- I owe you;)

Versa grips have a cult following, but I use straps, which I highly recommend...I got these (don't you love the flaming skulls)

http://www.prowriststraps.com/inc/sdetail/93974

versa grips are good too from all accounts I read.

For gloves, I don't use them, but my chiro does and believe it or not he uses a pair of wide receiver gloves that you can buy at the major sporting good stores...Nike I think is his brand. He says they are tough, but thin so you can still feel the bar.

Others feel free to chime in to help Blu

[gman]

on the subject of straps, the guy I ordered mine from is a great guy...you could email him and ask him about your situation. It might be that different ones are better for women or something like that..

Pam or fitbody?

[Baldiewonkanobi]

WTF? 2am in La La Land and I'm looking at a black and white avitar that shows my man is gettin it done. WYG bro. I'm doing my first of many stimulants...coffee. On the HDLs and HDL/LDL ratio Google Beta Sistosterol. Shit also shrinks the ol prostate.

I looked over Dave's client list for 2009 competitions and their success. Impressive. He does this for a living and does it well. How he handles so many at once....amazing. He then somehow finds time to do this site, post a lot, Q&A, travel all over hell and gone, interviews, radio thing, and somewhere in there family and training. I read his Q&A regarding nutrition and prep. Similar to what I have been preaching for decades....brought current.

Back to your most recent pic. Your pecs a peeking out. Cool. Your lean face is now looking warrior like. Also cool.

Find the Lipotropics?

Baldie

[freebirdmac]

on the subject of straps, the guy I ordered mine from is a great guy...you could email him and ask him about your situation. It might be that different ones are better for women or something like that..

Pam or fitbody?

I'll post my answer in her journal.

[Baldiewonkanobi]

Another option...my supplier:

http://www.prowriststraps.com/weight_lifting_belt_powerlifting_belt_Exercise_bel t_workout_belt


Baldie

[gman]

same guy baldie...his site is like a toy store for lifters

[gman]

I'll post my answer in her journal.

thanks, Pam.


WTF? 2am in La La Land and I'm looking at a black and white avitar that shows my man is gettin it done. WYG bro. I'm doing my first of many stimulants...coffee. On the HDLs and HDL/LDL ratio Google Beta Sistosterol. Shit also shrinks the ol prostate.

I looked over Dave's client list for 2009 competitions and their success. Impressive. He does this for a living and does it well. How he handles so many at once....amazing. He then somehow finds time to do this site, post a lot, Q&A, travel all over hell and gone, interviews, radio thing, and somewhere in there family and training. I read his Q&A regarding nutrition and prep. Similar to what I have been preaching for decades....brought current.

Back to your most recent pic. Your pecs a peeking out. Cool. Your lean face is now looking warrior like. Also cool.

Find the Lipotropics?

Baldie

Beta sistoserol, will look at that later when I get time...heading out to lift now.

Dave's secret is that he sleeps 2 hours a day, that's what I heard anyway.

Thanks on the pic...I am seeing it too...looking better every day. It may not be coming off fast, but it's coming off in the right places!

[TheTransformator]

What are you talking about G...your avatar...your belly is already looking better...keep at it...!

[fitbody]

I'll post my answer in her journal.

the greatest straps ever have rubber on the straps and neoprene that goes around your wrists

WSF girp tech rubberized lifting straps (padded)

i just picked up a pair yesterday to send to "Jimmy the Bull"
if you can't find them let me know
i'll ship some to you they're not expensive
like $14 canadian plus shipping
you can email me: [email protected]

Dawn

[AnglicanBeachParty]

What are you talking about G...your avatar...your belly is already looking better...keep at it...!

^^^ What he said. ^^^

[buckimscl]

Good job G!!!

[fitbody]

I am taking 6 fish oils a day per doctor orders. I got bad HDL cholesterol, so am taking lots of fish oil and niacin. He wants me to try krill oil after the fish oil is gone, it is supposed to be better for you and a smaller dose needed.
I know the stimulants aren't the best thing, just needed them yesterday so bad just to keep from falling asleep.




If Buck doesn't show up soon (or even if he does), I can always use the ass-kicking.

I think he saw my pic and is afraid now.



good on fish oil, in omegalyze theres fish oils too eh

just got email from Bucky, thank God
he was just busy at work

[gman]

What are you talking about G...your avatar...your belly is already looking better...keep at it...!


^^^ What he said. ^^^


Good job G!!!

I know I look better, aren't you guys scared about the contest now, ABP and Buck? I am only 4 weeks in, imagine 16 from now

[gman]

Tough back day today

Deads: 10/225 8/315 6/365 4/385 2/405

Wide grip pullups, straps: 8 7 5 6 5

close grip underhand chins, no straps: 6 5 6 5 4

Bentover reverse flys: 7/55 8/55 7/55

45 minutes of cardio

Postworkout meal of 1 pint of eggbeaters (warning do not cook a whole pint in a bowl in the microwave, it tastes like I am eating rubber), added some salsa and hot sauce...side dish 1.5 tbsp of pb

[AnglicanBeachParty]

I know I look better, aren't you guys scared about the contest now, ABP and Buck? I am only 4 weeks in, imagine 16 from now

Let's just say I am becoming more vigilant.

[Baldiewonkanobi]

Add two Omega egg yolks to that pint of whites and scramble them....I just did that 5 min ago and eating them now...yummy...along with P nutt butter. GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE. I too did back this morning. Are you peaking??


Baldie

[gman]

Add two Omega egg yolks to that pint of whites and scramble them....I just did that 5 min ago and eating them now...yummy...along with P nutt butter. GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE. I too did back this morning. Are you peaking??


Baldie

did the 2 eggs and egg whites for meal 1...I could eat eggs every meal and be happy

I didn't peek, did you?

[gman]

Let's just say I am becoming more vigilant.

i won't tell you that I was sucking my stomach in with all my being.

[gman]

I wanted to do 4 reps at 405 to beat my pr of 3, but only managed 2. Not bad, but next time I am going to try harder.

[TheTransformator]

I know I look better, aren't you guys scared about the contest now, ABP and Buck? I am only 4 weeks in, imagine 16 from now

I like this attitude...keep that close...the hard work is paying off...!

[freebirdmac]

I know I look better, aren't you guys scared about the contest now, ABP and Buck? I am only 4 weeks in, imagine 16 from now

Can you imagine what you will look like 16 weeks from now? :yep:

[Bacon Boy]

Tough back day today

Deads: 10/225 8/315 6/365 4/385 2/405

Wide grip pullups, straps: 8 7 5 6 5

close grip underhand chins, no straps: 6 5 6 5 4

Bentover reverse flys: 7/55 8/55 7/55

45 minutes of cardio

Postworkout meal of 1 pint of eggbeaters (warning do not cook a whole pint in a bowl in the microwave, it tastes like I am eating rubber), added some salsa and hot sauce...side dish 1.5 tbsp of pb


Welcome to my life... Except with egg beaters I just drinkem, because you can, and regular eggs I cook but I am up too 36 whites a day on training days non 24 I also make a keish with throwing oats in with it but you dont eat that kinda stuff anymore...

[gman]

BB, just can't drink those things, actually I should try it and see if they are as gross as I think.



good article on krill oil

http://www.examiner.com/x-2994-Phoenix-Alternative-Medicine-Examiner~y2009m6d28-Krill-oil-better-than-fish-oil

[freebirdmac]

BB, just can't drink those things, actually I should try it and see if they are as gross as I think.



good article on krill oil

http://www.examiner.com/x-2994-Phoenix-Alternative-Medicine-Examiner~y2009m6d28-Krill-oil-better-than-fish-oil

My daughter wanted the Krill oil she saw advertised as the pills were smaller. I don't remember the brand but the stuff was like $35 at Walgreen's.

[gman]

Can you imagine what you will look like 16 weeks from now? :yep:

the world is not ready for it...

[Bacon Boy]

I wont lie the texture is fucking gross!

[gman]

My daughter wanted the Krill oil she saw advertised as the pills were smaller. I don't remember the brand but the stuff was like $35 at Walgreen's.

not sure if this is apples to apples, but 9.99 online

http://www.vitacost.com/Nutraceutical-Sciences-Institute-NSI-KriaXanthin-Antarctic-Krill-Oil-with-Natural-Astaxanthin?csrc=GPF-835003005413

[gman]

I wont lie the texture is fucking gross!

maybe I stick with microwave, rubber with salsa on it is not so bad.

[Bacon Boy]

the world is not ready for it...

ARE YOU? Your going to get stared at a lot everywhere you go, some people may think your an athlete of sorts, the grocery store will be like a comed club to you... The laady at the register will always have something negative to say about how that many eggs or that much red meat isnt good for you, and you laugh cause shes the cow, Man vs Food will become your new favorite show, its better than porn...

Weights wont matter it weighs how much you want it too, you will be putting as much effort into deads at 225 as 405 just less reps, you will become that guy at the gym, your chiro will put you on his wall of important clients, GET IT G, ACHIEVE VICTORY!

[gman]

Hell yeah, BB! I am ready for it.

I already get the stares at Kroger....15 packages of Hickory Smoked tuna, 3 dozen eggs, 10 bags of frozen veggies, 4 jars of peanut butter. What a strange order you have!

Man vs Food is much better than porn...I totally agree

Trying my damndest to make my chiro and my doc proud since they are both bodybuilders...I want to look better than either one of them. I know I can do it too.

I feel sorry for the others up against me in Columbus because they really don't have a prayer.

[Down4whatever]

I feel sorry for the others up against me in Columbus because they really don't have a prayer.

You're prob right regarding you vs. me.....not many BB'ers at 6'1" 179 these dayz, lol. My biggest fear is looking like a female BB'er with those stats. (no disrespect to the ladies, they would look awesome at those stats)

[gman]

ABP is built along your lines, it takes all kinds...conditioning is the key!

[Down4whatever]

FYI, I'm doing a quasi-Mike day on food today--as far as calorie count is concerned. Planned out all the meals and looks like 2,075!!


:byeb: bye bye bubba-billy big gut :D

[gman]

so the bulking is officially over?

[Down4whatever]

so the bulking is officially over?

Yeah, this week is maintenance or just below--averaged out; carb cycling FTW

[blu2xtreme]

so the bulking is officially over?


Yeah, this week is maintenance or just below--averaged out; carb cycling FTW

So we get a new avi from you soon too...I hope
Been looking at that avi forever...not that it's not nice;)

Mike's new avi is so hot ...you have to keep up:p

[gman]

black and white makes me look better...I could have been in movies 50 years ago!

[Down4whatever]

So we get a new avi from you soon too...I hope
Been looking at that avi forever...not that it's not nice;)

Mike's new avi is so hot ...you have to keep up:p


lol, ok, gonna try and get some progress pics (or lack of progress) up tonight!

[gman]

lol, ok, gonna try and get some progress pics (or lack of progress) up tonight!

thanks for the warning! lol

just giving you shit, Matt.

About damn time

[blu2xtreme]

black and white makes me look better...I could have been in movies 50 years ago!

Take a compliment will you ...your looking great
Say ...hell yes I do :yep:


lol, ok, gonna try and get some progress pics (or lack of progress) up tonight!

woo hoo ...will be looking for them :p

[gman]

I know I look great...I have had women attacking me at the gym...could barely get my training done today.

[blu2xtreme]

I know I look great...I have had women attacking me at the gym...could barely get my training done today.

Way to go .... Unleash that animal in you ;)

[gman]

not tired this afternoon yet...maybe the fact I went to bed at 815 last night helped.

No way I can do that every night. Getting up at 5 is a given, but can only move the bedtime so early. 8:15's even earlier than my 10 year old's bedtime!

[gman]

for a preview of what I might look like when I get leaner...here is a pic of my son from about 1 1/2 years ago when he was lifting a lot...he weighed about 180 in this pic and he is 5'10"

I am starting to see how I resemble him, or is it vice versa?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/500/medium/muscles31.jpg

[Bacon Boy]

You training abs at all yet? I wished I would have started training them a lot harder (intensity wise) but I am making up for it now...

[blu2xtreme]

for a preview of what I might look like when I get leaner...here is a pic of my son from about 1 1/2 years ago when he was lifting a lot...he weighed about 180 in this pic and he is 5'10"

I am starting to see how I resemble him, or is it vice versa?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/500/medium/muscles31.jpg

Great looking boy ....( no cougar )

Get's it from his daddy ;)

[gman]

You training abs at all yet? I wished I would have started training them a lot harder (intensity wise) but I am making up for it now...

no abs so far...no calves either.

[gman]

Great looking boy ....( no cougar )

Get's it from his daddy ;)

at least half I guess!

[Down4whatever]

Though I'd share Matt's version of cut diet:

Calories 2,122
Pro 48%
Fat 21%
Fiber 5%
NetCarb 26%


2 whole egg, scrambled
3 Egg whites, scrambled
1.5 cups Enriched Milk, 1%
1 Bagel, Health Crunch
Naturally More Peanut Butter, 1 Tbsp

1 cup cottage cheese, 1%
Multi Grain Sandwich Thin

Chicken breast, 8 oz
Broccoli & Caul, 3 cups

Tomato Pesto Tuna Pouch, 4.5oz
1.5 cups Enriched Milk, 1%

Tilapia Fillets(10oz)
1/2 Can Hominy

1 cup Enriched Milk, 1%
1 scoop Scivation whey

[gman]

that sounds like some good eating, Matt.

One of these years I will try to lose weight not keto...but not this year.

[Down4whatever]

that sounds like some good eating, Matt.

One of these years I will try to lose weight not keto...but not this year.

I wasn't trying to get you to convert, just submitting for comparison :yep:

[gman]

I knew that...it sounds like a good plan...I would like to try it sometime.

Carbs are not my friend right now. Once I get my food habits to where food is fuel only, then I might try it!

[Down4whatever]

I knew that...it sounds like a good plan...I would like to try it sometime.

Carbs are not my friend right now. Once I get my food habits to where food is fuel only, then I might try it!

The jury is still out on this plattitude in my mind. When I dropped my weight before, I was a slave to this way of thinking and led to many stall-outs. This time will be my testing ground on the ol' 'carbs are the enemy' way of thinking.

[gman]

I seem to cheat a lot more when I try to eat a "reasonable' amount of carbs. For now I am better off not eating them at all.

I know it's some sort of psychological issue with me...or it could actually be serotonin, which I actually tested low on. Low serotonin can make you crave carbs big time.

[gman]

gonna sign off, it's getting late for me...gotta get up at 5.

don't derail my thread while I am gone, remember to do that in bucki's thread.

[Down4whatever]

I seem to cheat a lot more when I try to eat a "reasonable' amount of carbs. For now I am better off not eating them at all.

I know it's some sort of psychological issue with me...or it could actually be serotonin, which I actually tested low on. Low serotonin can make you crave carbs big time.


Interesting.....I think I have heard that about the seratonin.

Who knows, in 3 weeks, I may abandon the plan, but for now I'm subscribing to the K.I.S.S philosophy, lol. Calories in versus calories out, FTW

[freebirdmac]

Interesting.....I think I have heard that about the seratonin.

Who knows, in 3 weeks, I may abandon the plan, but for now I'm subscribing to the K.I.S.S philosophy, lol. Calories in versus calories out, FTW

That's how it is, cals in versus cals out. Now if you want to manipulate water then carbs come into play.

Of course in Mike's case he has to get his carb cheating under control. :p

[blu2xtreme]

gonna sign off, it's getting late for me...gotta get up at 5.

don't derail my thread while I am gone, remember to do that in bucki's thread.

Trying my damndest to think of how to mess up your thread since I can't do cardio I need a hobby tonight :yep:
I'm so sweet these days I can't even think of anything evil :p

[Down4whatever]

Trying my damndest to think of how to mess up your thread since I can't do cardio I need a hobby tonight :yep:
I'm so sweet these days I can't even think of anything evil :p


You could post pics of delicious food :D

[blu2xtreme]

You could post pics of delicious food :D

You know what that would be evil...
worse sexy girls with delicous food then he would have to look :yep:
Thanks Matt owe you one;)

[blu2xtreme]

Finding pics of girls eating...easy
finding them eatind food ..very hard:p

[Down4whatever]

Finding pics of girls eating...easy
finding them eatind food ..very hard:p


Ummmm, wow :yep:

good luck with that!

Ps. I started a journal!

[freebirdmac]

You know there are restaurants that serve sushi on women. :p

[blu2xtreme]

You know there are restaurants that serve sushi on women. :p

Found those pics but the girls were way skinny
Mike doesn't seem like the cardio bunny type
might have to give it a try:)

[buckimscl]

Hey Gman, checking in late.

[blu2xtreme]

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/fork_me_spoon_me.jpg

[buckimscl]

Hey, where's this thread going???

[blu2xtreme]

Hey, where's this thread going???

I'm not good when I am bored...or is it I'm really bad when I am bored;)

[buckimscl]

Hmmm, I like you either way;)

[Down4whatever]

http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/photos/IMG_9212_copy_copy.jpg

[blu2xtreme]

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/top-5-sexiest-burger-ad.jpg

[blu2xtreme]

Hmmm, I like you either way;)

I like you too Bucki;)

http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/photos/IMG_9212_copy_copy.jpg

Thanks Matt for helping :)

[freebirdmac]

This stuff ought to wake Mike up in the am :yep:

[buckimscl]

Blu, you are bad.......I like it :)

[blu2xtreme]

This stuff ought to wake Mike up in the am :yep:

That was the plan ...much more fun then cardio:yep:


Blu, you are bad.......I like it :)

I kind of grow on people a lovable pain in the ass :hugme:

[blu2xtreme]

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/0512st_zhooters_girls2005_pinup.jpg

[blu2xtreme]

Last one I tortured Mike enough:p

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/640929-dying-for-a-feed.jpg

[buckimscl]

Food porn, ya gotta love it.

[Gerb]

what's up gman? just checking in.

[gman]

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss190/blu2xtreme/top-5-sexiest-burger-ad.jpg

right now I would rather have the burger.:drool:

[gman]

what's up gman? just checking in.

after waking up to the food porn, I don;t know... I ate 3 boxes of cereal and a gallon of milk for breakfast... :hypno:

[Baldiewonkanobi]

Yeah right....and I poured Jack Daniels over my Fruit Fucking Loops then smoked a dubie while spanking my monkey over a Carrot Top picture.

Baldie

[bigdaddyd]

Yeah right....and I poured Jack Daniels over my Fruit Fucking Loops then smoked a dubie while spanking my monkey over a Carrot Top picture.

Baldie
OK, that is just a disturbing though.....very disturbing

[fitbody]

right now I would rather have the burger.:drool:

don't think about food as in burgers etc...
think of it as... (see attached pic)
this is what you need to focus on
cuz what you think about you bring about
you focus on wha you are not supposed to have and eat
you'll end up fuckin up and eatin it
DISTRACTION IS THE KEY !!!!!!!!!
have you seen the movie "THE LOVE GURU"?
if not you have to get it...
it's one of the funniest movies i've ever seen
of course he's a Canadian !
and anyway it talks about distraction

wherez my whip ???
i told you i was gonna ride ur ass...
you betta listen up or else...

[fitbody]

Food porn, ya gotta love it.

no YOU GOTTA STOP IT BUCKY OR ELSE
read my above post to mike please
i mean this
i know...
trust me
like you told me to trust you
its a 2 way street baby

[blu2xtreme]

Yeah right....and I poured Jack Daniels over my Fruit Fucking Loops then smoked a dubie while spanking my monkey over a Carrot Top picture.

Baldie


OK, that is just a disturbing though.....very disturbing

Not a image I want this early in morning :no:

[bigdaddyd]

Not a image I want this early in morning :no:
I am really wishing i would have eaten my cottage cheese before reading that!

[gman]

fitbody, thanks for riding my ass...joking about cheating probably leads to a lot of negativity....won't do it again!

Baldie, that is the funniest fucking thing I have read in months. Disturbing that one mind could think of something like that, but funny as hell.

[freebirdmac]

Yeah right....and I poured Jack Daniels over my Fruit Fucking Loops then smoked a dubie while spanking my monkey over a Carrot Top picture.

Baldie

LOL! :lmao:

[gman]

shoulder day

bb front raise with 75lbs total: 10 12 10 10 10
hammer grip laterals with 25's: 10 10 9 8 9
seated shoulder press on max rack smith machine: 4/90 7/70 6/70 5/70 5/70, no bar weight counted just the plates
wide grip oly bar upright rows with 85 lbs total: 8 7 7 8 8

30 minutes on precor crosstrainer...135bpm average, finally found a machine that works to get my heart rate up a little...

[Baldiewonkanobi]

GMAN wives/girfriends are interesting creatures. On a sunny Venice Beach July 4th, just finished morning pre judging, I was strolling with wifie poo hand in hand along the waters edge. She in a sun dress, me in my flame red posing trunks. She had not made one single comment about my final presentation physique wise (must have been pretty good...I won the show) all day...not a peep. The beach was crowded with 10s of thousands of sun worshipers. We passed a gaggle of 20ish bikini girls right near the waters edge. Two of them jumped up and came bouncing right to us. Boobs galore. One said to wifie poo...."Don't take this wrong but we think your old man is HOT". GMAN...I got a hand squeeze and an approval look from wife. She just smiled and nodded to the girlies.


Baldie

[gman]

Wives are funny...my wife thinks I am loony for trying this at 48. I am hoping she gets more and more supportive the further along I get. She has started spying to make sure I don't cheat, reminds me to cook chicken for the week, etc.

[gman]

I am trying to figure out how much fiber is in these fiber tabs I take that I got from vitamin shoppe:

it's called Fiber Blend....do I just add up the milligrams of each thing and assume it is 100% fiber?

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 3
Servings Per Container 100


Amount Per
Serving
% Daily
Value

Oat Bran (Avena Sativa)(Hulls)
930 Mg
N/A*

Apple Pectin (Malus Domestica)(Fruit)
210 Mg
N/A*

Prune (Prunus Domestica)(Fruit)
75 Mg
N/A*

Lactobacillus Acidophilus Providing 20 Million Live Organisms
6 Mg
N/A*

Rice Bran (Oryza Sativa)(Hulls)
825 Mg
N/A*

Citrus Fiber (Citrus Aurantium)(Peel)
150 Mg
N/A*

Psyllium (Plantago Ovata)(Husks)
120 Mg
N/A*

CABBAGE (BRASSICA CAROTA)(STEMS AND BUDS)
18 Mg
N/A*

Carrot (Daucus Carota)(Root)
9 Mg
N/A*

Broccoli (Brassica Oleracea)(Stems & Buds)
6 Mg
N/A*

Soy Fiber (Glycine Max)(Seed)
150 Mg
N/A*

[gman]

here is a weird ass out of the blue question:

should I start shaving all over just to get in the bodybuilder mindset or am I still not lean enough to bother with it?

Would love to hear opinions...

[blu2xtreme]

Hey I never got a thank you for your wonderful eye candy you woke up to:p

I say start shaving now - get use to it - it is who you are now a bodybuilder:)

[gman]

You were evil, why should I thank you for that! ;)

Shaving will take hours the first time, maybe I can fit it in. I end up having to do it in shifts the first time because the trimmer batteries die and need recharging right in the middle.

Damn, I hate being Irish....so much damn body hair.

[Baldiewonkanobi]

Shaving and keeping yourself lanolized does present a better mind set. Dials you in just a tad tighter. Ya gotta keep after the forearms or the wife will really object if you rub against her with the 5 o'clock shadow. Have wife shave the back. The new flatter belly and a manstyle bikini porn shave will really make the ol stecker peck out. ;) (Are our girl members pulling up a comfortable chair as they read this??) Come to think of it....I need to shave down again. Geezerdom has got me looking like a Mountain Gorilla Silver Back.


Baldie

[blu2xtreme]

Always Baldie always enjoy your posts:)

[Down4whatever]

Go for it dude! I keep well shaved--about once a week. I will leave the forearms until I'm diced up a bit....not sure why, haven't taken that leap of faith yet :D

[blu2xtreme]

Go for it dude! I keep well shaved--about once a week. I will leave the forearms until I'm diced up a bit....not sure why, haven't taken that leap of faith yet :D

How long does it take you .....any video;)

[gman]

Shaving and keeping yourself lanolized does present a better mind set. Dials you in just a tad tighter. Ya gotta keep after the forearms or the wife will really object if you rub against her with the 5 o'clock shadow. Have wife shave the back. The new flatter belly and a manstyle bikini porn shave will really make the ol stecker peck out. ;) (Are our girl members pulling up a comfortable chair as they read this??) Come to think of it....I need to shave down again. Geezerdom has got me looking like a Mountain Gorilla Silver Back.


Baldie

Never once shaved the bikini area, so that's going to be frightening....

forearms and legs I did before and I did look pretty ripped...it's nice because you can see a lot more muscle when the view isn't blocked

here a couple of years back in my attempt at T-barring with a tricep rope...turned it into a shrug! I am shaven in this pic.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/namtrag/2647_76688306404_737736404_2861615_.jpg

[gman]

Go for it dude! I keep well shaved--about once a week. I will leave the forearms until I'm diced up a bit....not sure why, haven't taken that leap of faith yet :D

my forearms are pretty diced already, so I can go ahead


How long does it take you .....any video;)

it takes so long the video camera would run out of batteries before the good part.

Seriously it will take me upwards of 1 1/2 to 2 hours, and that's without the bikini area. I figure another half hour at least

[Down4whatever]

How long does it take you .....any video;)

LOL, no vids--that would be scary. Prob 30 minutes

I prefer the bikini area to be clean shaven as well; clean freak here :yep:

[Gerb]

this journal is filled with madness

[gman]

this journal is filled with madness

I have an excuse for going 5 weeks with no carbs!

the rest of these people, I have no idea what their excuses are

[freebirdmac]

Go for the shaving now. And keep up with it for good!

Just don't admit to it in some other OV35 misc forum or you'll be derided as some sort gender confused metrosexual and an example of the downfall of men :)

[gman]

I prefer the bikini area to be clean shaven as well; clean freak here :yep:

cannot compute doing this, I am very uncoordinated.

[gman]

Go for the shaving now. And keep up with it for good!

Just don't admit to it in some other OV35 misc forum or you'll be derided as some sort gender confused metrosexual and an example of the downfall of men :)

worried about the locker room more than the misc forum....hell I know the people at the Y...I guess just wear a sign that says "bodybuilder" on it.

[gman]

gotta slow down on the food today, I am at 1300 calories after only 3 meals.

Meal 4 and 5 will be 2 scoops of whey each time

[gman]

ok, mapped out my remaining meals and I will be fine if I do whey twice and then eat 3 eggs and a cup of egg whites for meal 6

2,080
79.6g fat
73.5g carbs (damn protein powder has 5 g a scoop, and cashews suck too...gonna switch to almonds)
285.2g protein

[blu2xtreme]

LOL, no vids--that would be scary. Prob 30 minutes

I prefer the bikini area to be clean shaven as well; clean freak here :yep:

Smart man.... Keeps the ladies happy too;)

[freebirdmac]

worried about the locker room more than the misc forum....hell I know the people at the Y...I guess just wear a sign that says "bodybuilder" on it.

Oh I could see a whole bunch of haters there. Even if you identify yourself as a competitor.

Just smile and tell them how much the ladies like it :D

[blu2xtreme]

ok, mapped out my remaining meals and I will be fine if I do whey twice and then eat 3 eggs and a cup of egg whites for meal 6

2,080
79.6g fat
73.5g carbs (damn protein powder has 5 g a scoop, and cashews suck too...gonna switch to almonds)
285.2g protein

I will give you some of my food...
I share nicely .... Just don't tell :p

[gman]

Oh I could see a whole bunch of haters there. Even if you identify yourself as a competitor.

Just smile and tell them how much the ladies like it :D

they all think I am nuts anyway to be trying to lose fat....oh you look great, what are you doing trying to lose weight? that kind of shit.

screw em, right?


I will give you some of my food...
I share nicely .... Just don't tell :p

blu, it needs to be the other way around...you give me food and I will be even more over pace!

[bodyhard]

Go for the shaving now. And keep up with it for good!

Just don't admit to it in some other OV35 misc forum or you'll be derided as some sort gender confused metrosexual and an example of the downfall of men :)


Fucking priceless!! :D :D

[Down4whatever]

Thought I'd post one more pic 4 ya.....this one always makes me salivate :yep:

[gman]

Thought I'd post one more pic 4 ya.....this one always makes me salivate :yep:

I forgive you, the pic was worth it.

[bodyhard]

Thought I'd post one more pic 4 ya.....this one always makes me salivate :yep:
Damn what a fucking ass I would suck the fart right out of her ass!

[Asmolenski]

Hey Mike - instead of spending so much time on these forums why not get your ass back in the gym and do more cardio? Just kidding man - well sort of... :daz:

Just checking on you - looks like you are making progress - the only problem is that you are getting too damn skinny :bsflag:

Keep up the hard work and make me proud - I need a poster child for my clinic! :goodluck:

Dr Smo

[gman]

Hey Mike - instead of spending so much time on these forums why not get your ass back in the gym and do more cardio? Just kidding man - well sort of... :daz:

Just checking on you - looks like you are making progress - the only problem is that you are getting too damn skinny :bsflag:

Keep up the hard work and make me proud - I need a poster child for my clinic! :goodluck:

Dr Smo

Will do Allen...

I do spend too much time in here. I wish being a CPA were more interesting so I would work harder...do you have a test for adult onset ADD?

If I were single with no responsibilities I would be working at a gym or supplement store right now!

[Baldiewonkanobi]

10 days out from a BB show I got an enigual hernia doing chins of all things. 48 hours later I'm on an IV drip naked under a sheet in the OR and half zoned from the 'just to relax you' drugs. Two nurses come in to prep me with a bowl, razor blades and towels. They pull back the sheet and are astonished that I am 'baby boy' freakin hairless..... "You trying to put us out of work *big boy?". The Doc was equally surprised that I had skin over muscle in the pubic/groin area. "This will be easy".


* refering I'm sure to muscle mass not genitle mass. It was cold as hell in that OR anyway.....

Baldie

[gman]

I hate the doctor office shrinkage that occurs...always in direct proportion to how hot the nurse is!

[Down4whatever]

Lucky for me I was out cold for my colonoscopy back in March......3 females watching a guy stick a tube up my ass must've been embarassing for anyone awake

[gman]

Luckily I have 1 year 328 days left until I have to worry about a colonoscopy.

You can tell I am not stressed about it, can't you?

[blu2xtreme]

10 days out from a BB show I got an enigual hernia doing chins of all things. 48 hours later I'm on an IV drip naked under a sheet in the OR and half zoned from the 'just to relax you' drugs. Two nurses come in to prep me with a bowl, razor blades and towels. They pull back the sheet and are astonished that I am 'baby boy' freakin hairless..... "You trying to put us out of work *big boy?". The Doc was equally surprised that I had skin over muscle in the pubic/groin area. "This will be easy".


* refering I'm sure to muscle mass not genitle mass. It was cold as hell in that OR anyway.....

Baldie

You are the best poster ever ...love the - I am 'baby boy' freakin hairless ...love your stuff

[Down4whatever]

Luckily I have 1 year 328 days left until I have to worry about a colonoscopy.

You can tell I am not stressed about it, can't you?

LOL, by then I'll be a natural Pro at them as I have to get them every two years.....they're really not that bad.....even the prep was not too terrible

[freebirdmac]

LOL, by then I'll be a natural Pro at them as I have to get them every two years.....they're really not that bad.....even the prep was not too terrible

Agree. No biggie. I'm due for my second one next year. Five year call back for me.

[gman]

my wife would differ on the prep a little. 1 quart of gatorade with whatever nasty laxative they made her mix in was not a fun time. the actual procedure, no problem, she was out for that.

[Down4whatever]

Mike, I'm gonna buy you this shirt!!! You better wear it everyday at the gym :yep:

Sorry about the food :D

[freebirdmac]

my wife would differ on the prep a little. 1 quart of gatorade with whatever nasty laxative they made her mix in was not a fun time. the actual procedure, no problem, she was out for that.

Tell her to ask for the pills instead. You still have to drink something, preferably alternate gatorade with ginger ale, but nothing tastes yucky.

[bigdaddyd]

Go for it dude! I keep well shaved--about once a week. I will leave the forearms until I'm diced up a bit....not sure why, haven't taken that leap of faith yet :D
Do it G. I do it all once a week man. good stuff. I get a little grief now and then about the arms but everyone knows why now, so it eventually stops.

And I'm Sicilian buddy!

[buckimscl]

Checkin in G.

[blu2xtreme]

Do it G. I do it all once a week man. good stuff. I get a little grief now and then about the arms but everyone knows why now, so it eventually stops.

And I'm Sicilian buddy!

I have Italian uncles ...scary hairy :eek:

Smooth is nice :yep:

[gman]

Mike, I'm gonna buy you this shirt!!! You better wear it everyday at the gym :yep:

Sorry about the food :D

what food?

was that good fitbody?

[gman]

Tell her to ask for the pills instead. You still have to drink something, preferably alternate gatorade with ginger ale, but nothing tastes yucky.

it was not the taste of the stuff, it was the ordeal of what happened next!

[Down4whatever]

it was not the taste of the stuff, it was the ordeal of what happened next!

Multiple ass explosions...........

[gman]

Do it G. I do it all once a week man. good stuff. I get a little grief now and then about the arms but everyone knows why now, so it eventually stops.

And I'm Sicilian buddy!

Only people hairier than Irish are Sicilian....

I am going for it this weekend...


Checkin in G.

doing good buck


I have Italian uncles ...scary hairy :eek:

Smooth is nice :yep:

it's going to be weird being smooth again. I remember the ladies at the pool when my daughter had swim meets last time I shaved my legs...they were looking at my legs and thinking how weird I was, either that or they were jealous their's weren't as nice as mine!

[gman]

Multiple ass explosions...........

i wasn't going to say it.

[Down4whatever]

it's going to be weird being smooth again. I remember the ladies at the pool when my daughter had swim meets last time I shaved my legs...they were looking at my legs and thinking how weird I was, either that or they were jealous their's weren't as nice as mine!

Just don't go completely crazy and shave off your eyebrows......that would look creepy. :nonono:

[bodyhard]

Gman looking sic in the AV man, keep this shit up!

[gman]

Gman looking sic in the AV man, keep this shit up!

hell yeah!

I am wearing a pair of 34 jeans right now....a little tight in the waist but not bad....

[bodyhard]

hell yeah!

I am wearing a pair of 34 jeans right now....a little tight in the waist but not bad....


Dude on the real, you have an excellent base and in the pic of you doing the err ummm shrugs LOL you can see some serious muscle there man!

I feel you are gonna surprise a lot of people!

Once again see you at the Arnold man, now stop with all the pussy shit and take no fucking prisoners man!

[gman]

ended up with the following macros...

2,099 82 g fat 84g carb 280g protein

[gman]

Dude on the real, you have an excellent base and in the pic of you doing the err ummm shrugs LOL you can see some serious muscle there man!

I feel you are gonna surprise a lot of people!

Once again see you at the Arnold man, now stop with all the pussy shit and take no fucking prisoners man!

that was fucking 2 years ago too...I think I am even better now...

I told you guys first place was a foregone conclusion---ME

[bigdaddyd]

that was fucking 2 years ago too...I think I am even better now...

I told you guys first place was a foregone conclusion---ME
I love your confidence man!

I'm sorry I will be crushing it!

[bodyhard]

that was fucking 2 years ago too...I think I am even better now...

I told you guys first place was a foregone conclusion---ME


Ahhh love it!!!!!

[bodyhard]

I love your confidence man!

I'm sorry I will be crushing it!


Now this is what I am talking about. Good guys finish fucking last!

[fitbody]

what food?

Was that good fitbody?

good boy !
Right on
here's some more food for thought...
JUST THINK OF ME AS YOUR FOOD COP

[bigdaddyd]

Now this is what I am talking about. Good guys finish fucking last!
Absofreakinglutely

I'm planning on crushing everyone. I don't think failure, or 2nd place. I think win....period

[gman]

think all you want...you're going to get your ass kicked after which I will buy you a beer.

[bigdaddyd]

Really? I will take that beer...anyway...LOL

[blu2xtreme]

think all you want...you're going to get your ass kicked after which I will buy you a beer.


Really? I will take that beer...anyway...LOL

A lot of drink buying going on around this Masters group ...
sounds like the party celebrating will rock or you all will be sick
in the parking lot :hypno:

[buckimscl]

Not me. Drinking has never been an problem, as long as there is enough alcohol then there is no problem.

[blu2xtreme]

Not me. Drinking has never been an problem, as long as there is enough alcohol then there is no problem.

Cool one person will be able to keep up :p

[buckimscl]

Went ot Cleveland in Sept and got hammered. 13 shots (12 tequila 1 Crown) while drinking beer. I'm not a professional drinker but I do play one on TV.

[blu2xtreme]

Went ot Cleveland in Sept and got hammered. 13 shots (12 tequila 1 Crown) while drinking beer. I'm not a professional drinker but I do play one on TV.

I enjoy a drink or two ...to many tequila shots would do me in
I'm not a professional flirt but I play one on the Internet....
I guess everyone will find out for sure in Columbus

[buckimscl]

I am an incurable flirt. Always have been since I was a little kid!;)

[buckimscl]

Here's a new avi just for you Blu. I like this one better.

[blu2xtreme]

Here's a new avi just for you Blu. I like this one better.

Not bad ...but not bunnies :no:
I think I flirt because I like using the blue smilie guy ;)

Or because I really like boys alot :drool: ;)

[buckimscl]

:beerbang:I noticed you are using the blue guy a lot, oh yeah, and the other thing to.

[blu2xtreme]

:beerbang:I noticed you are using the blue guy a lot, oh yeah, and the other thing to.

Really like smilies :yep:

Mike...I owe you a drink for taking over your thread 2 nights in a row :drunk:

[buckimscl]

Maybe he won't notice.

[blu2xtreme]

Maybe he won't notice.

Could happen ...been looking for a good pic to give it a
camouflaged effect

[buckimscl]

Hmmmm. I got it. Mike, pay not attention to that man behind the curtain......

[blu2xtreme]

Hmmmm. I got it. Mike, pay not attention to that man behind the curtain......

Maybe your right a little to late to hide the hijacking of his thread...
next time we use your place;)

[buckimscl]

Come on over Blu. I've always got room for you;)

[gman]

Maybe he won't notice.

Notice what?

[gman]

Arm day and a good one at that

incline db extension, one db in each hand, sort of held together: 12/45 12/45 10/50 10/50

Bench dips with feet on another bench, 45lb plate on lap: 15 20 20 14 17

Oly bb curls, 135lbs: 5 5.5 4 5 4...felt awesome, cheated a little but who gives a shit?

Low pulley bar cable curls: 5 sets, weight doesn't matter on this crappy crossover we have

30 minutes of cardio at 132 bpm

[gman]

was 204.2 this morning, might be an aberration since I ate 5 meals yesterday and 4 of them were whey shakes, not much solid food yesterday except egg whites and nuts.

If not an aberration, then I am really happy!

In the mirror at the Y with the bright fluorescent light shining down, I could almost see a hint of abs...definitely starting to get a line down the middle, at least a hint of one.

[Down4whatever]

Nice arm blast!!! 135lb curls made my elbow hurt just reading it.

I bet that 204 is accurate; you're killing it!!

I'll be joining you Sunday :hypno: I think this week or 10 dayz of pre-dieting is gonna help me alot! I still weighed in at 200 this morn, so no biggie

[gman]

Nice arm blast!!! 135lb curls made my elbow hurt just reading it.

I bet that 204 is accurate; you're killing it!!

I'll be joining you Sunday :hypno: I think this week or 10 dayz of pre-dieting is gonna help me alot! I still weighed in at 200 this morn, so no biggie

thanks, Matt. I think the higher dose of fish oil (6 a day), and the fact I started taking MSM and COQ-10, are all helping that elbow...no pain at all today

you are going to be real successful on this cut...you are starting at a decent weight to begin with..

I have lost 10-11lbs and still need to lose 29. You only need 21...so kill it

[blu2xtreme]

Notice what?

Hey Bucki it worked:p


was 204.2 this morning, might be an aberration since I ate 5 meals yesterday and 4 of them were whey shakes, not much solid food yesterday except egg whites and nuts.

If not an aberration, then I am really happy!

In the mirror at the Y with the bright fluorescent light shining down, I could almost see a hint of abs...definitely starting to get a line down the middle, at least a hint of one.

Great job ...your killing it for sure :yep:

[fitbody]

ok wherez my progress pix ??????
i want full body head to toe
front
back
side
and no hand / camera in front of body
therez gotta be another human who can do this for you fuck

[gman]

ok wherez my progress pix ??????
i want full body head to toe
front
back
side
and no hand / camera in front of body
therez gotta be another human who can do this for you fuck

you will have it tomorrow...I think my wife can handle it! I haven't had her take pics in a long time!

should I try to flex up and suck in the gut, or just stand relaxed, or both?