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GirlyMuscle
10-14-2009, 04:34 PM
Size 4 model: I was fired for being too fat

Former Ralph Lauren model Filippa Hamilton is 5' 10" and 120 pounds

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If you asked people at random to describe Filippa Hamilton in a word, you’d hear a lot of synonyms for “gorgeous.” What you wouldn’t hear is “fat.”

And yet the 5-foot-10-inch, 120-pound model says that is essentially why she was fired by Ralph Lauren after eight years with the fashion designer.

“They said I couldn’t fit in their clothes anymore,” the size 4 stunner told TODAY’s Ann Curry Wednesday in New York. Hamilton said that Lauren wrote a letter to her agent saying, “We’re terminating your services because you don’t fit into the sample clothes that you need to wear.”

Ralph Lauren denied that she was fired for being too large.

“We consider her an important part of our imaging and branding,” the designer said in a statement to the media. “We regret that our relationship has ended as a result of her inability to meet the obligations under her contract with us.” (Read the company's full statement here.)

Hamilton denied not meeting her obligations to a company that she called her second family.

“I did everything that I could. I was very loyal to them. I was on time every time,” Hamilton told Curry.

Photoshopping controversy
The 23-year-old Swedish-French model, who had been working for Lauren since she was 15, told Curry that Ralph Lauren fired her in April through her agency. She said she had no intention of going public with her complaint, but changed her mind when a Photoshopped image of her in a mall in Japan showed up on the Internet site BoingBoing.com.

The advertising image, emblazoned with the Ralph Lauren name, showed a painfully emaciated woman. Bloggers were quick to point out that in the image Hamilton’s head was bigger than her hips.

“They Photoshopped her in a way that for me is grotesque and makes her look like a cartoon,” Geoffrey Menin, Hamilton’s attorney, told NBC News. “The trouble is that it’s damaging to her. Who wants to hire somebody that looks like that?”

Photoshopped pic...

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Ralph Lauren quickly removed the ad and moved legally to demand that the images be taken off the Web. “We have learned that we are responsible for the poor imaging and retouching that resulted in a very distorted image of a woman’s body,” the company said in a statement.

Despite the disclaimer, Hamilton said the distorted image moved her to speak out.

“It’s not a good example when you see this picture, every young woman is going to look at it and think that it is normal to look like that. It’s not,” she told Curry. “I saw my face on this super-extremely skinny girl, which is not me. It makes me sad. It makes me think that Ralph Lauren wants to have this kind of image. It’s an American brand ... and it’s not healthy, and it’s not right.”

She said being let go was an emotional blow. “I was very sad. I’ve been working with them since I was 15 years old. For me, they were my second family, so I was very hurt by this,” Hamilton said.

Fashion’s ‘vicious circle’
The thought that she is too fat to model is also devastating. Others in the industry agree.

Leslie Goldman, a body image expert, told NBC News: “The thought of this model being too fat is laughable. When you see her, she’s extremely tall and extremely thin. She has a perfect model’s body, but apparently not perfect enough.”

Kate White, the editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan magazine, joined Hamilton and Curry and agreed with Goldman. White said that the problem is something of a vicious circle.

“It really starts with the sample clothes. They’ve downsized. They’re now like a 2 or a 4. In some degree it relates to the Kate era,” she said, referring to Kate Moss, the super-thin supermodel whose career began in 1988 at the age of 14. “Before then, supermodels like Cindy Crawford and Christie Brinkley — they were really curvy. But they got skinnier and skinnier. The clothes got smaller. So it creates this cycle where you have to fit in the clothes to get the job, and then the models get smaller and that’s who we have to use in the fashion stories.”

White said that despite some recent efforts to show normal women in fashion magazines, women have to force the industry to change.

“I think women have to protest, and back it up, because sometimes women say they want real girls in stories, but often those stories don’t rate as well, and if you put a heavy celebrity on the cover, it may not sell as well,” White said. “Women have to complain and then back it up with their actions — with their pocketbooks.”

stephaniewicked
10-14-2009, 04:43 PM
I saw that on MSN.com earlier... No wonder poor young girls are starving themselves to try to fit in to look like a "model". I'm 5'1" and while I haven't weighed myself in a few weeks, I'm close to (if not actually at) 120 right now. How in the world 120lbs on a frame that tall is considered "fat" is beyond me!!

GeminiJedi
10-14-2009, 04:46 PM
I saw this and glanced over it with an "ick." How something as distorted as that sells is a testament to Western thinking--and that's totally messed up!

Disease states keep these Western Economies going. Psychological conditions such as body image disorders are perpetuated through these images. Psych meds and anti-depressants are a HUGE industry.

“Women have to complain and then back it up with their actions — with their pocketbooks.” So true! Women need to buy magazines with healthier women (note the lack of quotation marks) on the covers.

The Beast
10-14-2009, 04:50 PM
Well I agree that our society is image obsessed...although if we were so obsessed with being thin we wouldn't be the fattest nation out there. I also wish our models weren't stick figures but rather girls with some muscle on their frames. This obviously isn't going to happen anytime soon and it is her job to fit into the clothes for the company she represents. If she doesn't fit or wear them well then what is the company to do. She had a good run with them but there will always be another pretty face who can take a model's place. I don't know how she can complain about weight constraints when she is a MODEL...this is what she gets PAID to do and be, she choose it and if she is so offended then she should get a job that isn't based on her appearance.

Judge
10-14-2009, 04:59 PM
Druuna is the ideal of sexiness...I always wondered how can these girls like a bunch of bones can be called "models"?!

Gaoshang Xiongshou
10-14-2009, 05:01 PM
Pure insanity.

Stavman
10-14-2009, 05:11 PM
I just imagine Mugatu freaking out on her and kicking her out.

Gaoshang Xiongshou
10-14-2009, 05:24 PM
I just imagine Mugatu freaking out on her and kicking her out.


:lmao: Reps

Sistersteel
10-14-2009, 05:39 PM
And you wonder why women have eating disorders.

Sledge
10-14-2009, 07:06 PM
That Marilyn Monroe sure was a fat pig then.

PJ BRAUN
10-14-2009, 07:14 PM
Well I agree that our society is image obsessed...although if we were so obsessed with being thin we wouldn't be the fattest nation out there. I also wish our models weren't stick figures but rather girls with some muscle on their frames. This obviously isn't going to happen anytime soon and it is her job to fit into the clothes for the company she represents. If she doesn't fit or wear them well then what is the company to do. She had a good run with them but there will always be another pretty face who can take a model's place. I don't know how she can complain about weight constraints when she is a MODEL...this is what she gets PAID to do and be, she choose it and if she is so offended then she should get a job that isn't based on her appearance.

Very well said. I couldnt agree more. It is her JOB to be thin, and she got payed very well. Yes its ridiculous, and she is beautiful, but that is her job.

GirlyMuscle
10-14-2009, 08:01 PM
Come on....5'10" and 120 pounds is too fat to be a model???? Do the faashion designers expect them to also be alive? I guess that part doesn't matter as long as the clothes fit.

Ibarramedia
10-14-2009, 08:15 PM
I posted that on another forum today. Filippa had to come forward to set the record straight. People who don't know that the ad was photoshopped would think that she really looked like that. Even that was too much for the general public.

I wish there would be a market for fit femphysique models.....

tight booty
10-14-2009, 08:31 PM
She looks gorgous and that photo shopped image is gross! I don't blame her for getting upset about that photo. I think that better things will come for her. It's time to move on from Ralph Lauren.

fitmomma3
10-14-2009, 11:15 PM
Well I agree that our society is image obsessed...although if we were so obsessed with being thin we wouldn't be the fattest nation out there. I also wish our models weren't stick figures but rather girls with some muscle on their frames. This obviously isn't going to happen anytime soon and it is her job to fit into the clothes for the company she represents. If she doesn't fit or wear them well then what is the company to do. She had a good run with them but there will always be another pretty face who can take a model's place. I don't know how she can complain about weight constraints when she is a MODEL...this is what she gets PAID to do and be, she choose it and if she is so offended then she should get a job that isn't based on her appearance.AGREE!! And no one said she was FAT... this is how the MEDIA or she chose to spin it... they said she DIDN"T fit into the clothes...PERIOD, which is a SERIOUS REQUIREMENT FOR HER JOB. I also find it very hypocritical that now that she has been fired she all of a sudden wants to be the voice of healthy body image for girls. She said herself she has been with them since she was fifteen, she obviously felt comfortable portraying this image for the last 8 years. Now all of a sudden she thinks woman should protest because she was FIRED.

Want to talk about an ACTUAL promoter or healthy living and positive body image Alicia MArie (I know not everyone is a fan) but here's a woman who actually left the runway world because of not wanting to be stick thin and has built a name for herself as a FIT HEALTHY WOMAN. I have far more respect for her than a model scorned because she was fired.

I have a young daughter and I like anyone wants girls and women to have healthy body images BUT ANY ADULT with half a brain knowing what we know about models and airbrushing cannot even look at a cover of a magazine as reality, and should quickly teach their children the same. It is for entertainment JUST like TV and movies.

I kid you not when my daughter was like 6 one of those fructis commercials came on with the girls with the long silky STRONG hair and she said "MOM thats not true that shampoo doesn't make you're hair like that they only say that so you can buy it"... its a running joke in my family. If she can realize that as a child, why can't half of america?

Sorry for the rant lol I'm not siding with the idea that models should be stick thin... but I just HATE the way the media spins crap!

fitmomma3
10-14-2009, 11:20 PM
She looks gorgous and that photo shopped image is gross! I don't blame her for getting upset about that photo. I think that better things will come for her. It's time to move on from Ralph Lauren.
I would be upset too... but her being a model for years and Ralph Lauren having creative control over her images. I'm sure she was well aware that once you sign those images off on the dotted line, they could shop your head on a rhinos body... its not about YOUR IMAGE it is a bout the image the company is paying you for to represent them.

fitmomma3
10-14-2009, 11:27 PM
That Marilyn Monroe sure was a fat pig then.size 14 right and still probably one of the sexiest woman of all time!! Ironically that is the average size in America now. So she would have appealled to the masses even NOW :)

kraken
10-14-2009, 11:36 PM
Did she stop "doing" the right person?

J_Lynne
10-14-2009, 11:54 PM
size 14 right and still probably one of the sexiest woman of all time!! Ironically that is the average size in America now. So she would have appealled to the masses even NOW :)

But isn't a size 14 from back then the equivalent of a size 6 now? Vanity sizing is out of control in this country.

tight booty
10-15-2009, 12:51 AM
I would be upset too... but her being a model for years and Ralph Lauren having creative control over her images. I'm sure she was well aware that once you sign those images off on the dotted line, they could shop your head on a rhinos body... its not about YOUR IMAGE it is a bout the image the company is paying you for to represent them.
Absolutely, those photos belong to Ralph Lauren to do with them what they want. However, I would hate it too if I was disorted on purpose in a photo.

tight booty
10-15-2009, 12:52 AM
But isn't a size 14 from back then the equivalent of a size 6 now? Vanity sizing is out of control in this country.Yes, I think you are correct.

fitnita
10-15-2009, 07:15 PM
Come on....5'10" and 120 pounds is too fat to be a model???? Do the faashion designers expect them to also be alive? I guess that part doesn't matter as long as the clothes fit.

:lmao::headbang:

kungfuprincess007
10-16-2009, 12:48 AM
I agree with fitmomma3 that is hypocritical of her now to come out and say the industry needs to change after being in the industry so long.

Also, I think Tyra Banks is trying to change that industry bit by bit with the plus size models and shorter models on 'America's Next Top Model'.

A lot of the models are too thin and this industry needs a major re-model.

Sistersteel
10-16-2009, 01:07 AM
Bodybuilding and modeling have so much in common you could almost cross over from one into the other.

The lives of bodybuilders and models revolve around obsessive food habits and a warped perception of physical appearance.

They abuse diuretics. We abuse steroids.

We choke on protein. They choke on ice cubes.

We lose sleep over body fat readings. They lose sleep over scale readings.


Embrace the model in you today!


SS

Allifit
10-18-2009, 07:47 PM
Well I agree that our society is image obsessed...although if we were so obsessed with being thin we wouldn't be the fattest nation out there. I also wish our models weren't stick figures but rather girls with some muscle on their frames. This obviously isn't going to happen anytime soon and it is her job to fit into the clothes for the company she represents. If she doesn't fit or wear them well then what is the company to do. She had a good run with them but there will always be another pretty face who can take a model's place. I don't know how she can complain about weight constraints when she is a MODEL...this is what she gets PAID to do and be, she choose it and if she is so offended then she should get a job that isn't based on her appearance.

I agree Jen. In no way, shape or form is she FAT, nor is she unattractive, but she's working as a model in the high fashion industry, which, as we all know, is laden with stick thin models. It's insane for her to want to work in that industry then complain about the standards that are in place there (which she was well aware of). She's beautiful, and certainly NOT FAT, but rather then complain she should perhaps just move on from her modeling career. It's a business, like anything else.

Caleb56
10-19-2009, 07:03 AM
I agree Jen. In no way, shape or form is she FAT, nor is she unattractive, but she's working as a model in the high fashion industry, which, as we all know, is laden with stick thin models. It's insane for her to want to work in that industry then complain about the standards that are in place there (which she was well aware of). She's beautiful, and certainly NOT FAT, but rather then complain she should perhaps just move on from her modeling career. It's a business, like anything else.
a buisness will never change if everybody just ignores it.