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TheJackHammer
02-27-2009, 11:12 AM
i was just wondering what all the different winstrol copies OTC were out on the market now? thanks

BarbellBeast
02-28-2009, 02:15 PM
You a Fed, Boy?

Dom
02-28-2009, 02:35 PM
I like the ones shaped like Fred, Wilma, and Barney myself.:D Taste good and make you grow like a weed!

TheJackHammer
03-01-2009, 09:17 PM
You a Fed, Boy?

no i just want to know what i can take during my contest prep diet to make things alittle better. i dont know anything else except for winabol and was wondering what else there were.i dont want illegal ones just the ones i can get at the store

J2jud
03-02-2009, 03:15 AM
no i just want to know what i can take during my contest prep diet to make things alittle better. i dont know anything else except for winabol and was wondering what else there were.i dont want illegal ones just the ones i can get at the store

There are compounds similar to Wini....
Anything with this compound should be similar.
[3,2-c]-pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol

TheJackHammer
03-02-2009, 10:09 AM
There are compounds similar to Wini....
Anything with this compound should be similar.
[3,2-c]-pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol

thanks. so would this Anabolic Xtreme Prostanozol be worth my time or should i keep looking. also has anyone ever use winabol or prostanozol? and if so how was it

BarbellBeast
03-02-2009, 06:12 PM
Prostanazol is still around? Keep in mind only about 10% that you take actually makes it to your blood and to the muscle. Taking it with fat and/or taking DHB(or drinking grapefruit juice with it) will help bring that number up a bit, but you still have to does pretty high to see similar gains. Also look into Furazabol-like chemicals. They did the same thing taking the 17aa off Furaz making it a legal compound for now. Many people like the Furaz compound better than the winny compound. I try the Furaz stuff next week so I'll let you know what I think between the 2.

TheJackHammer
03-02-2009, 06:24 PM
thanks bro im looking forward seeing what the results are

TheJackHammer
03-09-2009, 01:16 PM
There are compounds similar to Wini....
Anything with this compound should be similar.
[3,2-c]-pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol

5a- androstano[2,3-c]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether 50mg *
how about this would this work the same

BarbellBeast
03-10-2009, 01:28 AM
5a- androstano[2,3-c]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether 50mg *
how about this would this work the same

Winstrol compound vs. Furazabol compound. Nearly the same but like cypionate and enanthate, most seem to have a preference(the Furazabol stuff)

J2jud
03-10-2009, 03:11 AM
5a- androstano[2,3-c]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether 50mg *
how about this would this work the same

Basically..... yes.

TheJackHammer
03-10-2009, 09:09 AM
Basically..... yes.

thank you

TheJackHammer
04-22-2009, 11:30 AM
hey i just bought winabol and i was wondering what i could use after as a pct? hopefully something cheap and easy to take. would taking Formadrol work fine?

J2jud
04-26-2009, 03:13 PM
hey i just bought winabol and i was wondering what i could use after as a pct? hopefully something cheap and easy to take. would taking Formadrol work fine?

Look into using either formestane + test booster for 4 weeks. I wouldn't recommend anything with divanil in it.

TheJackHammer
04-27-2009, 12:30 AM
Look into using either formestane + test booster for 4 weeks. I wouldn't recommend anything with divanil in it.
What about using nolvadex. Cause I still have alot

J2jud
04-29-2009, 11:05 PM
What about using nolvadex. Cause I still have alot

Use it. I always tell the people I advise that using a SERM is 100x better than using an AI. This is especially true when recovery rates are increased and strength is kept ;)

TheJackHammer
05-01-2009, 10:44 AM
Use it. I always tell the people I advise that using a SERM is 100x better than using an AI. This is especially true when recovery rates are increased and strength is kept ;)

what dose should i run it at. (20/20) sould this work since its not that strong

TheJackHammer
05-07-2009, 01:04 PM
what would be a good thing to stack with the winabol to help with a cutting cycle

JustLuke
05-07-2009, 02:37 PM
what would be a good thing to stack with the winabol to help with a cutting cycle
probably something dry like an EPI. the winni is not going to aromatase since it's a DHT derivative, but the EPI will reduce the aromatization that is taking place. one thing you will have to look out for on a cutting cycle and stacking dry compounds is joint pain.

needtogetaas
08-12-2010, 02:53 AM
katanadrol 2.0

only one thats dosed correctly!!!!

https://www.mrsupps.com/Product-Katanadrol-v2.0_34.aspx

daft205
03-13-2011, 02:22 PM
katanadrol 2.0

only one thats dosed correctly!!!!

https://www.mrsupps.com/Product-Katanadrol-v2.0_34.aspx

Yeah the furaz compounds are probably the closest OTC to winstrol- and katandtol has the proper dose and enough caps to do a decent run in one bottle.

HammerStrength12
03-13-2011, 02:31 PM
Furazadrol is the only clone i can think of. What's the dosing like for that? I do know that you need at least 2-3 bottles to get decent results.

daft205
03-13-2011, 03:33 PM
100-300mg per day is pretty common dosing. Katandtol is 50mg caps, 150 caps per bottle- so you could definitely get at least a four week run outta one bottle, depending how dose it.

beezy13
03-13-2011, 03:49 PM
Even 300 seems low. Most people take close to double that, is there something about the formulation of katana that makes it more effective?

HammerStrength12
03-13-2011, 04:02 PM
Even 300 seems low. Most people take close to double that, is there something about the formulation of katana that makes it more effective?


I'm pretty sure 250-300 was the ideal range. I suppose one could take 350, but noone would be able to afford 600+, that cost you like 500 bucks for a cycle...

"Rodz"
03-13-2011, 04:17 PM
well you get 250 a day/30 days for $85. Pretty good IMO, Im running it with another compound

HammerStrength12
03-13-2011, 04:28 PM
well you get 250 a day/30 days for $85. Pretty good IMO, Im running it with another compound

That's not a bad deal. The original stuff as like 50 bucks for a 60 pill bottle I believe.

"Rodz"
03-13-2011, 04:37 PM
Sounds about right, i think it was 90 caps, i like the idea of stacking it rather than overdosing the one product

GRAYHORSE
03-13-2011, 08:48 PM
hey i just bought winabol and i was wondering what i could use after as a pct? hopefully something cheap and easy to take. would taking Formadrol work fine?

Now you just need 3 more bottles to make it decent cycle.
CEL P-Stanz or Furuza-A would be MUCH lighter on the wallet.

beezy13
03-14-2011, 10:24 AM
I'm pretty sure 250-300 was the ideal range. I suppose one could take 350, but noone would be able to afford 600+, that cost you like 500 bucks for a cycle...


Yeah I guess I shoulda clarified, you had metioned Furaza, and right now you can get 3 bottles for about $80 so its not that bad. Yeah I know real gear is much cheaper but we're talking legal but still effective. I don't know that 300mg would be enough, with it being non-methyl. I've just seen alot use it around 600 and get pretty good results. Although if someone knows something that would make a cycle at 300mgs/day effective then I'd say thats pretty cheap

Young Gotti
03-14-2011, 12:40 PM
helladrol for 6 weeks, with katanadrol for the last 4 weeks....the slice and dice cycle

HammerStrength12
03-14-2011, 08:41 PM
Yeah I guess I shoulda clarified, you had metioned Furaza, and right now you can get 3 bottles for about $80 so its not that bad. Yeah I know real gear is much cheaper but we're talking legal but still effective. I don't know that 300mg would be enough, with it being non-methyl. I've just seen alot use it around 600 and get pretty good results. Although if someone knows something that would make a cycle at 300mgs/day effective then I'd say thats pretty cheap

That's a lot cheaper than I thought. So furazadrol is less expensive that Need2's clone. Why is the 2nd so overpriced?

As for the dosing, I think you might be thinking of BOLD. Bold is generally run upwards of 600mg+, but I've never heard of anyone going that high w/ fura. Usually they'll stack it with halo or SD.

daft205
03-14-2011, 10:46 PM
That's a lot cheaper than I thought. So furazadrol is less expensive that Need2's clone. Why is the 2nd so overpriced?

As for the dosing, I think you might be thinking of BOLD. Bold is generally run upwards of 600mg+, but I've never heard of anyone going that high w/ fura. Usually they'll stack it with halo or SD.

It isn't more expensive- this-HammerStrength12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Rodrigues
well you get 250 a day/30 days for $85. Pretty good IMO, Im running it with another compound
That's not a bad deal. The original stuff as like 50 bucks for a 60 pill bottle I believe.

Everywhere I looked the other compound you mentioned is roughly $50 for sixty pills- katandrol has 150 for $85, plus there's usually a 10 or 15% off coupon available and free shipping- it's a very competitive price for a quality furaza product.

HammerStrength12
03-14-2011, 10:54 PM
It isn't more expensive- this-HammerStrength12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Rodrigues
well you get 250 a day/30 days for $85. Pretty good IMO, Im running it with another compound
That's not a bad deal. The original stuff as like 50 bucks for a 60 pill bottle I believe.

Everywhere I looked the other compound you mentioned is roughly $50 for sixty pills- katandrol has 150 for $85, plus there's usually a 10 or 15% off coupon available and free shipping- it's a very competitive price for a quality furaza product.

Yea I've never seen furazadrol for the price beezy said, but if he's right, it's cheaper - 3 bottles for 80 bucks = 180 pills for 80 bucks.

beezy13
03-15-2011, 12:52 AM
Lockout supplements has CEL's version for 3 bottles for about $80, I've never taken it so you're right Hammer I may be confusing it with bold. I know a couple people and they did stack it with hdrol, but I coulda sworn then went pretty high cause its not a methyl. I may just have to check with them again.

GRAYHORSE
03-15-2011, 08:50 AM
Lockout supplements has CEL's version for 3 bottles for about $80, I've never taken it so you're right Hammer I may be confusing it with bold. I know a couple people and they did stack it with hdrol, but I coulda sworn then went pretty high cause its not a methyl. I may just have to check with them again.

Buy far the cheapest you will find Furuza-A or P-Stanz, any CEL or any PH/DS for that matter. :D

Young Gotti
03-15-2011, 09:01 AM
Lockout supplements has CEL's version for 3 bottles for about $80, I've never taken it so you're right Hammer I may be confusing it with bold. I know a couple people and they did stack it with hdrol, but I coulda sworn then went pretty high cause its not a methyl. I may just have to check with them again.

or you can get 3 bottles of forged Orastan-E for $55

beezy13
03-15-2011, 11:16 AM
or you can get 3 bottles of forged Orastan-E for $55

Orastan E is not usually as well liked as A. Much better results and reviews with people using Orastan A. But people are free to use whatever they want.

Young Gotti
03-15-2011, 12:07 PM
Orastan E is not usually as well liked as A. Much better results and reviews with people using Orastan A. But people are free to use whatever they want.

yeah i agree, most ppl like A, just throwing out the option

beezy13
03-15-2011, 12:16 PM
yeah i agree, most ppl like A, just throwing out the option

Yeah, I was just throwing it out there. I've never used either so its all really what friends have told me. Just thought I'd say it because people do note a difference between the 2.

Young Gotti
03-27-2011, 08:20 PM
got my bottle of helladrol and kantandrol....slice and dice time...but what would you recommend, running the katandrol for 4 weeks at 250 or 6 weeks at 200....the first option works and works well since the hella kicks in right around the time you introduce the katanadrol....any opinions on the other option?

HammerStrength12
03-27-2011, 10:55 PM
got my bottle of helladrol and kantandrol....slice and dice time...but what would you recommend, running the katandrol for 4 weeks at 250 or 6 weeks at 200....the first option works and works well since the hella kicks in right around the time you introduce the katanadrol....any opinions on the other option?

I always like running the non-methyls longer than the methyls.