? How long do I qualify for a National show?

[pillowtalk]

Hi Gang,

I have a question that I hope someone can answer:

I won the Overall in my State NPC Bodybuilding Show in March of 2008. I then went on to compete in the Emerald Cup in April 2008 in which I placed 2nd in my class. During that year I was told that I qualified for a National level show for two years thereafter. Does that mean I can only do a National show up until March of 2010 or until the END of 2010 before I need to re-qualify?:dunno:

Thanks for your help!

[GirlyMuscle]

I think it's for the entire season.

[sassy69]

Hi Gang,

I have a question that I hope someone can answer:

I won the Overall in my State NPC Bodybuilding Show in March of 2008. I then went on to compete in the Emerald Cup in April 2008 in which I placed 2nd in my class. During that year I was told that I qualified for a National level show for two years thereafter. Does that mean I can only do a National show up until March of 2010 or until the END of 2010 before I need to re-qualify?:dunno:

Thanks for your help!

L- Starting in 2009, the cut-off for national qualification was cut to 1 year from 2 years. So you still qualify for the 2 year window, but when the year ends, I'm not sure. I want to say at the end of the following competition season, but I'll wait & see if anyone confirms more specifically. Or you could shoot an email to the NPC folks - e.g. Pam Betz or Peter Potter.

[tammyp]

it is til the end of the season. what show are you thinking about?

[Suzanne]

I thought the last year to get 2 yr was 2007

so those competing in 2008 only had rest of 2008 plus all of 2009
i could be wrong

[pillowtalk]

Ok, thanks Ladies. Not sure what show I will do Tammy, something later in the year because I took a lil too much time off this year:o I do recall them saying the rule changed to 1 year at the beginning of 2009 tho, like Jill said, so hopefully I just squeaked by. Thanks again.
Lisa

[sassy69]

I thought the last year to get 2 yr was 2007

so those competing in 2008 only had rest of 2008 plus all of 2009
i could be wrong

It should be w/ 2008 as the last year to carry over the 2 yr limit- it wouldn't be fair to pull out that extra year from under someone's belt if they won it on the pre-2009 terms and were planning their competitions accordingly.

[~gymdiva~]

no I actually think it was the people in 07 got grandfathered in but 08 did not...I had some friends panicking about it but it wound up not mattering so I didn't pay attention past that....

[tammyp]

my friend is good for 2010 ..he didnt place top 5 this season, but i still qualified from last year. so this is why i say yes.

[hayleym88]

so if i qualified for nationals in this aug09 i am qualified for shows this up coming summer? what about team u in september?? ehh why is this so confusing lol

[pillowtalk]

Ok I just emailed my former coach Noel Fuller who was (is?) also an NPC judge. He says I need to re-qualify after April 2010. Phuck. (Shoulda had my shit together and did the Alaska State Show again this March.)

[sweetjane57]

so if i qualified for nationals in this aug09 i am qualified for shows this up coming summer? what about team u in september?? ehh why is this so confusing lol

you are qualified for ANY National show through Dec. 31st, 2010

[Suzanne]

It should be w/ 2008 as the last year to carry over the 2 yr limit- it wouldn't be fair to pull out that extra year from under someone's belt if they won it on the pre-2009 terms and were planning their competitions accordingly.

they didn't pull an extra year this new rule was decided at the meeting at nationals in 2007 to begin in 2008 so from 2008 onward only 1 yr qualification

[pillowtalk]

Hmm, sounds like I ought to email the NPC directly and find out what the correct answer here is....If anyone else finds out before me, please post up. Thanks.

[s2h]

its 1 year my training partner had to requalify on 2 weeks notice in 08 because he thought he had 2 years(he didnt make it placed 4th HW state champs n 2 weeks prep) not bad for being 2 months out from being in real shape!!!

[sassy69]

they didn't pull an extra year this new rule was decided at the meeting at nationals in 2007 to begin in 2008 so from 2008 onward only 1 yr qualification


Hmmm, ok --- shit its been a year & I'm old & blonde... so I guess 2007 was the last yr to grandfather in.

[TTTG]

The qualifications run through the end of the calendar year and the new rule took effect for the 2008 season. So, for example, Justine won the lightheavies at the 2008 Jr nationals. That qualified her for any national show through the end of 2009. Since she did not make the top 5 at the 2009 nationals she will have to do a qualifier first during 2010 if she would want to do a national show anytime during 2010.

[TTTG]

This is going to be an interesting year at some local qualifiers because this is really the first year many will need to requalify. So, there will be some doing their first contest not realizing the new rule and be shocked to see a national level competitor or two show up and take the overall.

[ParadiseCup]

TTTG is correct in that ALL qualifications go through the end of the calendar year, not from when your contest was

[Jodie]

and us old farts that qualified can do Master Nationals no matter the 1 yr rule correct?

[tammyp]

they didn't pull an extra year this new rule was decided at the meeting at nationals in 2007 to begin in 2008 so from 2008 onward only 1 yr qualification

it was decided in atlanta in 08 Suz, not 07. this is confusing....but i do believe its explained on the NPC site.

[tammyp]

from npc site:

Beginning in 2008, eligibility is reduced to one year for National contests with the exception of the Nationals and USA Championships that have two (2) years of eligibility.
Eligibility for athletes that qualified in 2007 will be grandfathered under the previous eligibility.

[sassy69]

from npc site:

Beginning in 2008, eligibility is reduced to one year for National contests with the exception of the Nationals and USA Championships that have two (2) years of eligibility.
Eligibility for athletes that qualified in 2007 will be grandfathered under the previous eligibility.


Here's the NPC published statement - 2008 NPC Board of Governors Meeting - Rules & Regs Changes (http://npcnewsonline.com/new/2009BOGMeeting.html)



December 1, 2008

TO : District Chairpersons

FROM : Jim Manion

SUBJECT : 2009 RULE CHANGES AND BIKINI DIVISION GUIDELINES

At our November 20, 2008 meeting in Atlanta, Georgia the following rules/changes were mandated:



A new division – NPC Bikini – was implemented. (See attached guidelines and rules)
New Rules for National Contests:

An athlete may qualify in any division – bodybuilding, fitness, figure and in 2009 bikini however when they enter a national contest they must select one division as a competitor. IF they qualify in more than one division they must select only one division – no crossovers
For all other contests, crossovers are permitted at the discretion of the promoter with the District Chairpersons approval.
If a competitor qualifies as a Masters competition, they are limited to compete in the masters divisions only.


Beginning in 2008, eligibility is reduced to one year for National contests with the exception of the Nationals and USA Championships that have two (2) years of eligibility.

Eligibility for athletes that qualified in 2007 will be grandfathered under the previous eligibility.


The overall second place in women’s bodybuilding at the USA Championships will receive her pro card – the same as the men at this contest.
Fitness is reduced to two (2) rounds. Each round is scored at 50% of the final score

Two piece suit. And,
routine round


Figure is reduced to one (1) round

Two piece suit


The NPC registration fee for 2009 is $85.00

[little d]

Ok, now I am really confused. These are the shows I did recently:

* 2007 Continental USA Won Overall Womans Bodybuilding. This is a national qualifier.
* 2008 Illinois State I took 1st in Masters lw and 1st in Open, also a National qualifier.
* 2009 Masters Nationals in PA. I took 2nd in 35 lw and 3rd in 45 lw.

So now I have 2 questions...
1. Do contestants need to secure top 5 at the Masters to re-qualify to do Masters National again?
2. Because I didnt do a regular National show does this mean I have to re-qualify to do...let say the North American in 2010?:confused:

[tammyp]

If a competitor qualifies as a Masters competition, they are limited to compete in the masters divisions only.


from reading the above, i think you have to do masters only and qualify for open.

[sassy69]

If a competitor qualifies as a Masters competition, they are limited to compete in the masters divisions only.


from reading the above, i think you have to do masters only and qualify for open.


This is what I read out of this too - your last Open qual was in 2008, and per the NPC BOD note, as of 2008, your qual in 2008 is only good thru the end of 2009.

[little d]

Ok thanks Tammy, Sassy... I messed up I guess last year...

So I will try to re-qualify for an open and do the Masters in 2010, 2 shows.

Then in 2011, I can do the open like USA's and Masters right?

Dam this is confusing.. I thought Masters was a Nationals too! I am so new at this! Sorry .. showing how dumb I am...

[Suzanne]

If a competitor qualifies as a Masters competition, they are limited to compete in the masters divisions only.


from reading the above, i think you have to do masters only and qualify for open.

this is true if at a local level and qualify in masters division but not sure if that is also true if you place top 5 at masters nationals should ask sandy or another national judge

[shawnclapp]

Here is a link to the 2009 NPC Rule Changes. Have fun translating.

http://www.npcnewsonline.com/new/2009BOGMeeting.html


Hi Gang,

I have a question that I hope someone can answer:

I won the Overall in my State NPC Bodybuilding Show in March of 2008. I then went on to compete in the Emerald Cup in April 2008 in which I placed 2nd in my class. During that year I was told that I qualified for a National level show for two years thereafter. Does that mean I can only do a National show up until March of 2010 or until the END of 2010 before I need to re-qualify?:dunno:

Thanks for your help!

[sassy69]

Here is a link to the 2009 NPC Rule Changes. Have fun translating.

http://www.npcnewsonline.com/new/2009BOGMeeting.html


Already linked in post 23 :) Beetcha!

[tiramisu]

I read the ruling twice and have no idea what it means.

[little d]

Thanks Suzanne, I really appreciate you guys taking the time here! I guess I will have to ask Chuck Sanow for my particular case. I wish they made the rules so everyone could understand. Wow, this just gave me a totally full schedule for this year..quite frankly, I really dont like doing more than 2 shows in a year... that going to be tough on this old body!

[Suzanne]

Thanks Suzanne, I really appreciate you guys taking the time here! I guess I will have to ask Chuck Sanow for my particular case. I wish they made the rules so everyone could understand. Wow, this just gave me a totally full schedule for this year..quite frankly, I really dont like doing more than 2 shows in a year... that going to be tough on this old body!

Just email Sandy

[little d]

Suzanne.. who is Sandy and what is her email? I really appreciate your help..I am kinda in the dark ...:confused: Dang woman, I want your legs they are awesome!!!!

[sassy69]

Suzanne.. who is Sandy and what is her email? I really appreciate your help..I am kinda in the dark ...:confused: Dang woman, I want your legs they are awesome!!!!

Sandy, along w/ Peter Potter, is one of the NPC National Registrars, and also the "women's contact" for the national shows.

Sandy (Ranalli) Williamson
PO Box 70029
Riverside, CA 92513
phone: 818-400-1060
fax: 951-785-5667
[email protected]

[little d]

Thanks Sassy!! I will email her today! Hoping she has good news for me...

[Suzanne]

Suzanne.. who is Sandy and what is her email? I really appreciate your help..I am kinda in the dark ...:confused: Dang woman, I want your legs they are awesome!!!!
Thank you!


sandy (ranali) williamson national judge she is who we se send national show entry form to. Dont know top of my head and at airport