8 10 12 or longer

[Jack of All]

how long you guys like to run your cycles? i will be starting my first cycle soon and I am kind of undecided on how long to run it. Basic 500mg test cyp a week.

[NPCKnight]

minimum 12 now. you should run 12 weeks too. i ran my first 3 cycles of just test at 10wks and should have allowed for the 2 additional weeks.

[Swiper]

minimum 12 now. you should run 12 weeks too. i ran my first 3 cycles of just test at 10wks and should have allowed for the 2 additional weeks.

100% correct. IMO If done right (training, diet,) you'll get the best results off your first few cycles.

[bigdaddyd]

I also made the mistake of going 10 weeks and should have gone 12. Definitely 12 for me but everyone is different and reacts differently.

[tiramisu]

Depends on your goals.

[KindaSwol]

agreed.

[Jello]

Definitely 12 weeks, at 10 you will still be gaining a lot and not wanting to stop.

[Anthony]

esp for a first cycle what is the max you'd want to run - 16 weeks?

[Jacquester]

Definitely 12 weeks, at 10 you will still be gaining a lot and not wanting to stop.

Yes, 12 and you'll get the full benefits. just make sure to have your PCT ready-more important with long cycles. Should be nice and consistant at 500 for that period. Would recomend 250 2x/wk. My first was only 8 and after that 12s and once a 16precontest. Now it's constant with cruizes.

[BULLDOZER]

Until the gains stop or 20 weeks which ever comes first.

[iusealittle]

most of the time its 10, more recently its been 4wks!:D love me some shic's......

use.

[hilly]

12 weeks minimum for me

[indianamonster1986]

depends on money....

[Bigluva]

Yep yep!




52 weeks. :)

[Jack of All]

Yes, 12 and you'll get the full benefits. just make sure to have your PCT ready-more important with long cycles. Should be nice and consistant at 500 for that period. Would recomend 250 2x/wk. My first was only 8 and after that 12s and once a 16precontest. Now it's constant with cruizes.

Unfortunatly PCt is not a concern. i am hypogonadal so them small danglies dont do shit for me anymore. i will just go back to my HRT dose of 200mg a week.


Until the gains stop or 20 weeks which ever comes first.

I will definitly judge it from the gains but sounds like at least 12.

Thanks all.

[MiStyle]

no less then 12 for long esters. 8-10 for shorter, thats my theory

[Demorak]

I will most likely never run a 12 weeker again...took me forever to recover from even though i used an aggressive pct....dont think i was recovered fully until 6-8 months after....so never again....maximum 6 weeks for me

[collegelinebacker31]

would any of you recamend going over 12 weeks for a first cycle?

[Canuck_Muscle]

I would say 12 weeks as well. There is nothing wrong with getting that additional month of gains in espicially when it is your first cycle. I normally do 12.

[MrDiamondCalves]

I'm on week one of 12.

[HANEYCOLEMAN]

i personally like the 6-8 week cycles and only taking 3-4 weeks off before i am back on. this way i dont have long recovery periods and i dont have the problems with my nads. now i will say that in the winter i take it completely off and give my body the full winters rest but working it hard still in the gym.

[IanMazia]

Let me ask you guys this - Let's say you use a long ester of test, Cyp or Enan, and you frontload it so that you get stable blood levels in a week. Would you still recommend a 12-weeker?

[BABOON]

Run until you stop growing, switch compounds, rinse and repeat. Fuck short cycles.

[Swiper]

i personally like the 6-8 week cycles and only taking 3-4 weeks off before i am back on. this way i dont have long recovery periods and i dont have the problems with my nads. now i will say that in the winter i take it completely off and give my body the full winters rest but working it hard still in the gym.

I figured it out!!! you're a transsexual. Both man and women. :eek:

[Reloaded]

I'm surprised that swiper didn't recommend 20+ year cycles :)

[Swiper]

I'm surprised that swiper didn't recommend 20+ year cycles :)

LOL. you know i wouldn't recommend anything longer than my current 12 year cycle. that's just crazy. ;) :)

[ANABOLIC1]

Run until you stop growing, switch compounds, rinse and repeat. Fuck short cycles.

Boo-yah.

x 2

[robert c]

my doc has had me on 200mgs per week for 6months or so and it's great,my question is my test count is now 820 how high should it be to grow more?

[heavyiron]

my doc has had me on 200mgs per week for 6months or so and it's great,my question is my test count is now 820 how high should it be to grow more?
I like mine over 5,000.

[gymrat]

For ever or as money and supply permits.

[Jack of All]

For ever or as money and supply permits.

That is a sweet 1st post!

[Brock]

The longer I run the cycle, the better I retain the gains.

I think the magic # is right about 12-16 weeks.

[Random Letters]

16-20 weeks is perfect. Switch up compounds at the 8 or 10 week mark.

[Hendog]

I think 10 weeks is perfect for long esters and 8 weeks is perfect for Prop.

[almard]

I will go until gains stop, then I may up the doses little or go for PCT......

[Foreman_Rules]

Short cycles are much better. 6-10 weeks is best, but this depends on the esters. The only way to run a good longer cycle is to add new compounds in week 6-8, like tren or anadrol.

[almard]

Short cycles are much better. 6-10 weeks is best, but this depends on the esters. The only way to run a good longer cycle is to add new compounds in week 6-8, like tren or anadrol.


Short cycles are much safer, but you don't get your maximum result by going only 6-10 weeks.... compounds like Test, EQ, deca just start working at the 6 to 8 weeks of your cycle, so how that will be better? ....maby it will works with fast acting componuds like, Prop, tren, Dbol, but with the rest of AAs.... No way.

[NPCKnight]

Short cycles are much safer, but you don't get your maximum result by going only 6-10 weeks.... compounds like Test, EQ, deca just start working at the 6 to 8 weeks of your cycle, so how that will be better? ....maby it will works with fast acting componuds like, Prop, tren, Dbol, but with the rest of AAs.... No way.

Prop, tren, dbol, anadrol, NPP....what else do you need? everything can be manipulated with using a short ester so those short cycles work. As for EQ....no one is really gonna miss it on those short BLASTS. Save it for a 12+ weeker.

[Foreman_Rules]

Short cycles are much safer, but you don't get your maximum result by going only 6-10 weeks.... compounds like Test, EQ, deca just start working at the 6 to 8 weeks of your cycle, so how that will be better? ....maby it will works with fast acting componuds like, Prop, tren, Dbol, but with the rest of AAs.... No way.Bull shit. You can make amazing gains on 6-10 week cycles.....once you turn pro you can up the time and dose.....most fail here. :)

[ironstudent]

Bull shit. You can make amazing gains on 6-10 week cycles.....once you turn pro you can up the time and dose.....most fail here. :)

So what about us first timers and newbies, when we are reccomended 10-12 weeks of Test E. So maybe the second and so on cycle should be shorter, using prop?

[almard]

Prop, tren, dbol, anadrol, NPP....what else do you need? everything can be manipulated with using a short ester so those short cycles work. As for EQ....no one is really gonna miss it on those short BLASTS. Save it for a 12+ weeker.

Basically, You really don't need anything more......But how could you manage ED Injected?.....something like prop is going to hurt as hell bro..........:eek:

[iusealittle]

So what about us first timers and newbies, when we are reccomended 10-12 weeks of Test E. So maybe the second and so on cycle should be shorter, using prop?


i think so........the faster you get it in and get it out, the faster your body can get it self back to normal. for me Short High Intensity Cycles are the way to go.

[ironstudent]

Ah i c. I think i will try that next time i bulk. The "shic" method you speak of, is probably not a good idea for a prep or diet huh?

[iusealittle]

Ah i c. I think i will try that next time i bulk. The "shic" method you speak of, is probably not a good idea for a prep or diet huh?


well if you diet up for a show it could work. in a very shit time you could gain more weight then in a tipacle 10-12 wkr.

use.

[irishpride]

i think so........the faster you get it in and get it out, the faster your body can get it self back to normal. for me Short High Intensity Cycles are the way to go.
paul borreson was a huge advocate for shics, i have tinkered around with them and really liked them..now i stay on most of the time but i will still throw in a high dosed shic then back into cruise mode when i am leveling out with gains..