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AMC
02-03-2010, 10:30 AM
In conjunction with diet and cardio, what do you guys recomend for a fat burner. I am looking to cut for a show in June, not natural, I am going to do a cutting cycle, Winstrol, Mastron, etc. Wondering what fat burners you guys like. I picked up some Syntheslyn and their lypid transporter.

I was thinking of trying Fastin.

thesamewords
02-03-2010, 01:11 PM
cayenne peppers

juggernaut
02-03-2010, 01:19 PM
Cytomel paired with clen

juggernaut
02-03-2010, 01:24 PM
how old are you?

ypmm5
02-03-2010, 02:20 PM
AlrI's poisin and Hyperdrive are both great products as well as Chris Aceto's Noradranaline.

Nitro Fueled Barbie/Mel Marx
02-03-2010, 02:29 PM
Cytomel paired with clen

I agree!!!!

AMC
02-03-2010, 05:09 PM
Age 29. I have some clen, I have heard mixed things about that. That it only works for a few days.

juggernaut
02-03-2010, 06:56 PM
Age 29. I have some clen, I have heard mixed things about that. That it only works for a few days.

And by your answer, I can see that you haven't done any research into chemical compounds. Do some work and come back with answers to your questions. Here's a question: Post your diet, what does it look like?

Con
02-03-2010, 09:27 PM
1 bronchaid, 200mg caffine, 1 baby asprin aka ECA stack 30 minutes prior to an hour of stepmill has been working very well for me.

juggernaut
02-04-2010, 06:03 AM
Con, Aspirin has been shown not to be necessary and isnt needed. And you are short-changing it because the EC stack needs to be taken at 3x intervals during the day-starting of course, with a gradual week buildup of 1 EC dosage for 2-3 days, then 2x intervals for 3 days, then if you can handle it, 3x intervals during the day.

Joshua H
02-12-2010, 01:41 PM
Clen if your willing to go into an untested show of course, otherwise from a supplement standpoint I say VPX Meltdown. Why, research proves its worth, not once but twice in large heterogenous samples using the pill right from the bottle, not just the ingredients in the supplement but the real thing.

GRAVESY
02-19-2010, 03:00 PM
Con, Aspirin has been shown not to be necessary and isnt needed. And you are short-changing it because the EC stack needs to be taken at 3x intervals during the day-starting of course, with a gradual week buildup of 1 EC dosage for 2-3 days, then 2x intervals for 3 days, then if you can handle it, 3x intervals during the day.


What do you think about adding Yohimbine to the EC (ECY stack).?

Thought the aspirin had an extending effect on the effects of both E and C?

Heard something in grapefruit helped this stack aswell, read that in BodyOpus.

JAR OF NATTY
03-03-2010, 10:29 AM
Bronkaid and Yohimbine and Caffeine. Bronkaid is my savior as of rite now. full time mid terms, part time job and contest prep dont go together so well.

joe293
04-01-2010, 12:38 PM
Age 29. I have some clen, I have heard mixed things about that. That it only works for a few days.


Clen, T3 and Ketotifin.......problem solved.

Chadstallion
04-01-2010, 01:00 PM
over the counter: Barracuda.
I cut the pill in half otherwise get too wired all day long. cuts appetite and gives me a great energy boost for hours.

juggernaut
04-01-2010, 04:18 PM
Clen if your willing to go into an untested show of course, otherwise from a supplement standpoint I say VPX Meltdown. Why, research proves its worth, not once but twice in large heterogenous samples using the pill right from the bottle, not just the ingredients in the supplement but the real thing.
you do realize that these studies are paid for by the company themselves?

MusclesMarinara
04-01-2010, 08:32 PM
I saw good results with VPX meltdown...

Might go a different route this time if i even need one before the show.

daywalker72
06-02-2010, 12:50 PM
how many weeks out do you start the clen?

Die4Mass
06-02-2010, 02:49 PM
Clenbuteral worked great for me byitself, plus my diet was dialed in to a "T" but i could definitely tell that clen was beneficial the last 5weeks once my metabolism starting slowing down.

joe293
06-03-2010, 10:24 AM
how many weeks out do you start the clen?


Depends on how fat you are......you can run it a long time with Ketotifin;)

daywalker72
09-01-2010, 12:31 PM
Im going to try 120mcg ED clen, 12.5 mcg ED t3
does this sound ok? and how much ketotifin? ill be running for 4.5 weeks (ive already been running the t3 for a week)

GRAVESY
09-01-2010, 01:29 PM
people generally start low on clen and work their way up, not start at the top.

daywalker72
09-01-2010, 01:41 PM
ok.
they also taper off as well right?

GRAVESY
09-01-2010, 03:03 PM
should be able to find the protocol in the chemical sction
there are two types
on like Dave's and one that is based off a two week-20day cycling

daywalker72
09-01-2010, 03:24 PM
ok thanks

joe293
09-02-2010, 09:04 AM
ok.
they also taper off as well right?

With Clen I simply start small and work my way up. A small dose works well for a few weeks then stalls. Add a little more for a few more weeks etc etc. When I've done this a month or more I add ketotifin at night and run it as long as i need.

getcarved
10-17-2010, 10:06 AM
Im going to try 120mcg ED clen, 12.5 mcg ED t3
does this sound ok? and how much ketotifin? ill be running for 4.5 weeks (ive already been running the t3 for a week)


Please google BigAndy69 FAQ before you start. Please.

Also adding yohimbine to ECA is done by some, but it would spell heart attack for me.

kentuckyslim
10-24-2010, 10:13 PM
USPLabs OxyElitePro...LOVE it.

s2h
10-24-2010, 10:15 PM
USPLabs OxyElitePro...LOVE it.i like this one also...