What kind of training do you guys do on DNP?

[desibaba]

With 500 mgs/day of this shit i feel like walking to the bathroom and back is a chore. What kind of workouts do most of you follow?

[s2h]

You do no training,i have said this in several posts dont take DNP it's a poison.I have taken it and there is no workout for it.The life getts sucked right out of you cause your cooking yourself.Just use some t3,clen eat clean and do some cardio and dump that crap!!

[SallyAnne]

I disagree. You can and should workout. Do the same thing you always do, but either shorten your workouts or lighten up a bit. Remember that you aren't going to be adding any muscle, so you just need to do a maintenance workout. I'd even suggest doing 30 minutes of really light cardio if you can manage it.

Just remember that more is not always better (usually worse) with DNP. I think a low dose over a longer period is better because you can function almost normally in the gym and at work, etc.

[desibaba]

you can function almost normally in the gym and at work, etc.

It just looks very unprofessional at work if you are sweating like a pig and cant talk because you are out of breath. But i guess i should suck it up and do what i can as far as workouts go. Im taking 500mgs/day of the Dinitro brand DNP and its kicking my ass.

[SallyAnne]

That would be the best kind. Did you try lowering it to 250 to see what kind of results you'd get? At a lower dose, the carb cravings aren't as strong, the water retention isn't as bad, & you have more energy. I have taken DNP in the past, but not for a long time. However, my fiance runs it once in a while and has found that a lower dose gets better results for him because he lead a normal life while on it.

[Anthony]

most of the sides are from hyperthermia (being too hot) rather than feeling tired - you feel tired becuase your body is working so hard to keep itself cool. If you can work out in a cold enough environment, I've found I have a lot more energy. Agree with other folks - top tolerable dosage is around 250-300 mg/day.

Off cycle, I can do good hard workouts in a 60-65 degree gym and regular low intensity cardio. Don't use DNP on cycle - even 150 mg /day will wipe you out - me at least.

[ANADROLicfreak]

none.lol

[jacshelb]

most of the sides are from hyperthermia (being too hot) rather than feeling tired - you feel tired becuase your body is working so hard to keep itself cool. If you can work out in a cold enough environment, I've found I have a lot more energy. Agree with other folks - top tolerable dosage is around 250-300 mg/day.

Off cycle, I can do good hard workouts in a 60-65 degree gym and regular low intensity cardio. Don't use DNP on cycle - even 150 mg /day will wipe you out - me at least.


I believe you, but why do you think this is? I'm just curious.

[D_T]

In the past I haven't been able to function on DNP. My clothes get soaked so I can't really wear street clothes. Now that I've been laid off maybe I should give it a short run.

[Anthony]

I believe you, but why do you think this is? I'm just curious.

AAS is, in effect, instructions to your body to grow. All the growth and related actions (clearing waste, digesting additional calories, etc) produces more heat. Without DNP I am warmer/sweat more easily on AAS. DNP does the same think without all the growth - your body's abilty to cool itself is working that much harder.

[diesel094]

i plan on doing a cycle of dnp during my pct... anything wrong with that?

[joe d]

screw dnp. that is some horrible stuff.

[Myth]

bump this thread! i want to hear more from DNP users

[AlphaMaleDawg]

DNP is fantastic and produces amazing results. I have done it with and without training. I say don't train at all and just make sure you aren't eating too many calories while on it.

[TheRage93]

DNP is terrible IMO. It can seriously kill you. I'm being serious.

[Big Barry]

DNP is terrible IMO. It can seriously kill you. I'm being serious.

Forum legend Sistersteel posted a thread on the dangers of DNP:-

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?8700-Dangers-of-DNP-All-you-Need-to-Know

[TheRage93]

Forum legend Sistersteel posted a thread on the dangers of DNP:-

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?8700-Dangers-of-DNP-All-you-Need-to-Know
mot to mention it turns your semen yellow lol

[s2h]

my view on DNP has changed since 3 years ago(thats wierd seeing a post that old)..at the time didnt fully understand some methods for DNP that i do now..live and learn..

[Big Barry]

my view on DNP has changed since 3 years ago(thats wierd seeing a post that old)..at the time didnt fully understand some methods for DNP that i do now..live and learn..

You probably terrified the guy... it looks like you're trying to save him from cooking himself like a lobster!

[KTTraining]

Thankfully I've never used DNP , but have read about it and can't understand why anyone would want to use it . Just curious , how shredded are you guys that use this stuff ? More so then when you just diet very tight ( no cheat meals ) for 16 weeks with the basic supplements , or does it just give an easy way out ( while it's doing who knows what to the body ? )

[joe d]

Thankfully I've never used DNP , but have read about it and can't understand why anyone would want to use it . Just curious , how shredded are you guys that use this stuff ? More so then when you just diet very tight ( no cheat meals ) for 16 weeks with the basic supplements , or does it just give an easy way out ( while it's doing who knows what to the body ? )

dnp has its place in a pre contest. it is stronger than anything else but its also way more harsh. if you use dnp it will allow you to eat more while getting stage ready. by doing this you can come in with more mass and the same condition. the huge but here is in how terrible it is on your health. your playing with fire with this stuff.

the case isnt always the easy way out. you could use that saying with anything we do really. some people need more than others to achieve the same results. dnp is real harsh, but it does produce drastic results. there is a fine line to success.

using dnp right can help you walk on stage with more mass and in the same condition than you would with any other plan without it, but your also going to be less healthy regardless of how safely you think your doing it.

the guys needing hefty doses of hefty drugs to get on the big boy stage are anything but healthy by show time as it is. adding dnp is a disaster waiting to happen. even if it doesnt hit you while your doing it. the stress on the organs will take its toll and most likely come back to haunt you later.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

DNP is terrible IMO. It can seriously kill you. I'm being serious.

Yea if you mega dose it like an idiot. Otherwise, clen is more dangerous due to the strain on the heart (again, dose dependent).

[AlphaMaleDawg]

my view on DNP has changed since 3 years ago(thats wierd seeing a post that old)..at the time didnt fully understand some methods for DNP that i do now..live and learn..

DNP is by far the most misunderstood drug that a bodybuilder can use. There is so much scary stuff on the internet about it, but most of it is unfounded and based on nothing scientific. For this reason, it's easy to understand why so many people are scared of it.

I learned a lot about it from Conciliator, who used to post everywhere about it. He spent his livelihood researching it basically and spoke highly intelligently about it.

[joe d]

DNP is by far the most misunderstood drug that a bodybuilder can use. There is so much scary stuff on the internet about it, but most of it is unfounded and based on nothing scientific. For this reason, it's easy to understand why so many people are scared of it.

I learned a lot about it from Conciliator, who used to post everywhere about it. He spent his livelihood researching it basically and spoke highly intelligently about it.

anyone know what ever happened to him?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

anyone know what ever happened to him?

Not a clue. He just kind of disappeared. Maybe he got bored of the forums and stopped studying DNP? Your guess is as good as mine

[Barrett]

I remember sticking my head in a bag of it one time and smelling the powder plumes of dust.. I felt like a had a fever for a couple hours.

[Myth]

I agree that Concilator was the foremost authority on DNP (at least on online forums). Wish he would pop up again.

For those who report bad side effects, did you take powder or crystal?

[joe d]

I agree that Concilator was the foremost authority on DNP (at least on online forums). Wish he would pop up again.

For those who report bad side effects, did you take powder or crystal?

i tried it 1 time. i started low and never raised the dose but id be lying if i tried to tell you what dose. i think it was powder. i stopped after about 2 weeks. unfortunately it took several months for the sweats to stop. my temp went really freaking high too. like 102 if i remember correctly. its not for me but i certainly wouldnt say its not going to be useful to some.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

i tried it 1 time. i started low and never raised the dose but id be lying if i tried to tell you what dose. i think it was powder. i stopped after about 2 weeks. unfortunately it took several months for the sweats to stop. my temp went really freaking high too. like 102 if i remember correctly. its not for me but i certainly wouldnt say its not going to be useful to some.

That's weird. I've used it 3 times and the sweats went away two days later after stopping. I've gone as low as 200mg and as high as 750mg. 750mg was a nightmare. If I ever need to use it again (trying not to), it would be low dose like 250mg until I lose the fat.

[Myth]

That's weird. I've used it 3 times and the sweats went away two days later after stopping. I've gone as low as 200mg and as high as 750mg. 750mg was a nightmare. If I ever need to use it again (trying not to), it would be low dose like 250mg until I lose the fat.
Sounds like you used crystal, no?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Sounds like you used crystal, no?

I've used both actually

[adpolice]

DNP recomps the body like nothing else,stimulants just provide energy and can really make u a wreck,flat and small while dnp is muscle sparing.It also amasing on how it improves insulin sensitivity.My take on dnp is that a small low dose longer cycle on a low carb diet and right supps is very safe

[AlphaMaleDawg]

DNP recomps the body like nothing else,stimulants just provide energy and can really make u a wreck,flat and small while dnp is muscle sparing.It also amasing on how it improves insulin sensitivity.My take on dnp is that a small low dose longer cycle on a low carb diet and right supps is very safe

100% in agreement with you, however, I think EC is pretty much mandatory if you take DNP for both energy and more importantly, appetite suppression. Longer low dose cycle is definitely the way to go. Safe and the sweating + lethargy are more tolerable.

[Myth]

DNP recomps the body like nothing else,stimulants just provide energy and can really make u a wreck,flat and small while dnp is muscle sparing.It also amasing on how it improves insulin sensitivity.My take on dnp is that a small low dose longer cycle on a low carb diet and right supps is very safe

Absolutely true! Glad someone brought up recomping with DNP!


100% in agreement with you, however, I think EC is pretty much mandatory if you take DNP for both energy and more importantly, appetite suppression. Longer low dose cycle is definitely the way to go. Safe and the sweating + lethargy are more tolerable.

Yeah, I've also found that EC really does help while on DNP. Also agree about longer, low dose cycles being more tolerable and safer.

I would wager that DNP (if taken with the correct ancillaries, or if the DNP is included in the right proprietary blend), both far more effective and far safer than ANY of its fat loss rivals on the market (or underground)!!!

[Ymir]

last run with dnp was 5 weeks 150mg's ED lost about 22-24 lb's kept all mass.

workouts are intense as possible duration 60-70 min, drink alot of fluids make sure you have a good intake of magnesium, kalium and natrium, anti oxidants etc.

cardio post workout 20min slow paced, felt fine cept when eating the body temp went really high and you get the sweats, diet was as usual no changed not more carbs than usual.

DNP with a real diet cannot be beaten in fatloss terms it kills everything else on the market and your HR is not affected as with clen/ec t3/t4 etc.

only stim I used was coffe, low dose long term is the way to go, and do not be afraid to take a spray water bottle with you to the gym to cool off with so you keep more fluids in the body (awesome trick) and so you can workout longer and harder, I use a spray water bottle always to cool myself off with instead of sweating, with or without DNP.

according to my calculation 150mg dnp(crystal) amps my metabolism with atleast 10-15%
yes I combined it with a cycle.

also get a fan beside the bed :) and the lethargy from dnp is a bonus helps with sleeping during a hard diet.

Tren with DNP can get really really painful, I keep away from tren if I'm going to diet on DNP.
test eq var is enough.

[s2h]

Thankfully I've never used DNP , but have read about it and can't understand why anyone would want to use it . Just curious , how shredded are you guys that use this stuff ? More so then when you just diet very tight ( no cheat meals ) for 16 weeks with the basic supplements , or does it just give an easy way out ( while it's doing who knows what to the body ? )

it will burn fat like no other..as for the easy way out..yeah it could fall into that category..DNP is best used far out from a show..so 20-14 weeks out..the kinda of diet it requires will differ form what most eat closer to a show..i would say its best use is to jump start a prep..

[s2h]

DNP is by far the most misunderstood drug that a bodybuilder can use. There is so much scary stuff on the internet about it, but most of it is unfounded and based on nothing scientific. For this reason, it's easy to understand why so many people are scared of it.

I learned a lot about it from Conciliator, who used to post everywhere about it. He spent his livelihood researching it basically and spoke highly intelligently about it.

it def gets a bad rap based mostly off parrot talk..when i said 3 yrs ago i disliked it so much that was based off of a personal use run i had with it and my experience with that..i didnt know the correct way to do it and thats what led to the bad experience..

there's a whole lot of things that go with BB that are really bad for you..is dnp that much different??

[Myth]

All good points, guys! My first cycle was with powder DNP in the middle of July lol, and let me tell you, that was almost unbearable! Then I found a great crystal proprietary blend and have had astounding results every cycle! In the TOTAL 12 weeks I've been on cycle, I've lost an average of 1/2lb pure fat per day.

Now I'm experimenting with recomping with DNP: I cycle 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, NO CARDIO (thank God!), diet stays the same at 2700kcal/day, with one high carb reefed per week, and 5-6 hard training days a week. So far it's worked pretty well. I'm on week 4 of my recomp experiment and I've gone from 190 @ 10% bf to 193 @ 9.5%, which is a damn good start to a recomp.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Absolutely true! Glad someone brought up recomping with DNP!



Yeah, I've also found that EC really does help while on DNP. Also agree about longer, low dose cycles being more tolerable and safer.

I would wager that DNP (if taken with the correct ancillaries, or if the DNP is included in the right proprietary blend), both far more effective and far safer than ANY of its fat loss rivals on the market (or underground)!!!

Glad to see someone knows what's up. Great post.

[1Zur1Fur]

Very interesting thread. I know local female figure competitors who use it and don't seem to report having issues. No idea what doses or brands. Always interesting when intelligent, experienced members share their knowledge with the newer crew. Thanks Guys (and gals).

[Myth]

If anyone else has experience with DNP, please share! We should make this thread worthy to be a sticky!

Personally, I've embraced the 2 week on/2 week off approach, while keeping calories at +-10% of maintenance the entire time. So what happens is that on my off weeks, I am in a very slight surplus, while forcing my body to adapt to a slightly higher caloric intake, in effect raising my overall BMR along with a bit of added muscle mass. Then during my on weeks, I keep diet the same, and since DNP works in skeletal muscle mitochondria, the more muscle you have, the more fat you will lose. In my opinion, DNP is the PERFECT recomp supplement!

[Myth]

To add to that, I might even toy around with a 4-6 week off/2-3 week on approach.

[DR.BB]

First, I don't think anyone should take DNP, but it is a personal choice, of course. Surprisingly, it is fairly well studied in medical journals and users who haven't already tracked down Concilator's reference probably should read them to gain a different, less sensationalistic view.
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/data/Journals/JAMA/6977/jama_108_25_006.pdf.png

[DR.BB]

more from Concilitator's list of references, again, none of this endorses its use. Just sharing info for anyone who is interested or has not attempted to track down from Concilator's reference list. Should read the medical lit before using any substance imo:
USE OF DINITROPHENOL IN OBESITY AND RELATED CONDITIONS
A PROGRESS REPORT
M. L. TAINTER, M.D.; A. B. STOCKTON, M.D.; W. C. CUTTING, M.D.
Journal of the American Medical Association. 1933;101(19):1472-1475. doi:10.1001/jama.1933.02740440032009.

ABSTRACT

We have recently suggested that alpha-dinitrophenol (1-2-4) might have therapeutic value in conditions in which an increased metabolic rate would be beneficial. Study of its pharmacologic properties shows that it has the power to increase metabolism to very high levels without causing important damage to vital organs and functions. Serious harm is apparently only caused by the drug in large doses which produce too great metabolic stimulation, with resulting fever. In low, or therapeutic, doses, the metabolism may be increased 50 per cent or more over considerable periods of time without unpleasant symptoms or toxicity. Such an action is useful in treating obesity, since the increased metabolism results in loss of weight, just as it does with thyroid medication. This paper is in the nature of a progress report on results obtained to date of treating 113 consecutive cases of obesity observed in clinic and private practice.

And this one from 2001 notes the dangers of DNP but summarizes that it or a related compound warrants investigation as a "viable" treatment of obesity:

Harper, J. A., Dickinson, K., Brand, M. D.
Mitochondrial Uncoupling as a Target for Drug Development for the Treatment of Obesity
Obesity Reviews, Volume 2, Number 4, 1 November 2001 , pp. 255-265(11)

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I'm so glad this turned into a great open minded thread. I am wondering do you guys lose a lot of fullness and pumps when running a low dose in the 250mg range? It's been a while since I've used a low dose like 200mg so I barely remember. I used at much as 750mg (NEVER AGAIN) and fullness sucked...but I was also eating low cals

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Another question. Has anyone used a low dose DNP WITHOUT a bodybuilding diet? Like did you take it and eat like a normal human being? If so, what were the results.

I'm getting so tired of eating in a deficit with all clean food that I'm thinking of just having a week to eat normally but use low dnp to kind of keep the fat off

[Myth]

I find my fullness is proportional to the dosage. If I run 250mg, I can stay pretty full because glycogen isn't as depleted. And that's with once carb meal a day. But at 500-750mg, forget about it, lol.

[Myth]

Another question. Has anyone used a low dose DNP WITHOUT a bodybuilding diet? Like did you take it and eat like a normal human being? If so, what were the results.

I'm getting so tired of eating in a deficit with all clean food that I'm thinking of just having a week to eat normally but use low dnp to kind of keep the fat off

Absolutely! I eat at maintenance on DNP and lose fat with no muscle loss. I've been eating the same amount for 6 months and have dropped 40lb of fat with the stuff. And I've NEVER starved AND I do a weekly MASSIVE refeed day to kickstart metabolism and replenish glycogen stores. I once did IFing with DNP and that was a recipe for muscle loss! I would advise eating at +-10% of maintenance and you should be golden! (assuming the product is legit lol)