Imaginary Lat Syndrome

[Gaoshang Xiongshou]

With the Arnold Weekend upon us, I want to ask about something that is seen regularly during the weekend.

Now, am I here to bash it? No... those who have it manage to speak badly enough for themselves without words ever being spoken. However, I would like to know exactly WHY people have ILS, or think they need to.

[MusclesMarinara]

can you give us a definition of ILS...

[Skeletor]

can you give us a definition of ILS...

Your avatar, but without the lats.

[JamesWebb]

they have the intense desire for the rest of the world to think they are as big as they think they are.

[Gaoshang Xiongshou]

can you give us a definition of ILS...


A guy who has no lats to speak of, but has his arms flared out so far, he looks like he is waiting for a gust of wind to help him take off.

[GetLean]

Your avatar, but without the lats.

I was more looking at just his avatar.

[SoxFan11]

http://articles.elitefts.com/iron-brothers/entertainment-at-the-arnold-b-i-n-g-o/

[Bryan Hildebrand]

i expect some pics of this syndrome so that the young guys can corret this massive public nuisance.

[Bryan Hildebrand]

http://badshah.net/custom/Latitus%202009.08.15.jpg

[Con]

can you give us a definition of ILS...
People that hold their arms like you are now but not only for a picture but for all the time.

[Dade]

Hopefully one day they'll find a cure before it's too late.

[Sean Katterle]

One of the worst sufferers of ILS I have ever come across is Doodley Roobley or whatever the fuk his name is. He thinks of himself as a benchpress champion (with a bench shirt on of course, SURPRISE!) I feel bad for him because his ILS is compounded by his contracting imaginary benchpress numbers disorder.

Normally, I would never make fun of someone just because they look like a regular guy on the street but this guy claims to be the bronze world medalist in the benchpress, a 16 x world record holder and on his website it calls him "One of the hottest lifters in the world." Plus, when I joked about his having ILS he tripped out like I was trying to ruin his benchpressing career (career?) I marked him down as reason # 482 why bench shirts should be banned. Here he flexing his 174 pounds of massive muscle!

http://www.doctorbench.com/images/gallery/apf_ca_2007/apf_ca_2007_1.JPG

http://www.doctorbench.com/images/gallery/apf_nationals_2007/apf_nationals_2007_3.jpg

http://www.doctorbench.com/images/gallery/upa_030109/upa_030109_2.jpg

[JamesWebb]

16 X world record in the special olympics maybe.

[Ninja Loco]

So.....We can join his website and rail on this toolcloset? Because it looks like he can be easily made to cry. Literaly.

[GetLean]

You know what, give the guy credit. It is probably more strenuous to hold your arms in that awkward position than it is to put on the muscle.

[ypmm5]

http://articles.elitefts.com/iron-brothers/entertainment-at-the-arnold-b-i-n-g-o/

That was funny Sox.

[Gaoshang Xiongshou]

You know what, give the guy credit. It is probably more strenuous to hold your arms in that awkward position than it is to put on the muscle.


You may be on to something. Reps for recognizing this :lmao:

[-BLP-]

i had walk like this in my room in the dark thinking i have dorian lats after lats prop injection , no one seen me but i can tel this " it's FUN"

[anabolic fyre]

My fuckin gym is full of these teens like this, they walk around in wife beatas skinny as hell prob like 140lbs tops, nd alywas have their shoulders flared foward nd arms out, cant stand it. Or they stand their with their sidekicks nd text while flexin lol such dumbasses.

[exit2010]

i usually give them hand signal like i am guiding in a plane when i see them . . . with those imaginary lats they need to land safely

[Piotr Rasputin]

Yeah, no need to go to a show to see this. I see it all the time in the gym, especially when they are around people bigger than they are or when there is a cute girl nearby.

[BigJD69]

We should have an Bros vs. Pros Event and all the proceeds will go to trying to find a cure for this annoying disorder!

[Deano]

Another pet hate of mine is "who can wear the tightest T shirt" or put another way,"which fully grown male can fit in a childs T shirt competition!" I believe George Farah is a good example of this behaviour. Sorry I can't find any pics as I'm stuck in a traffic jam while typing this on my blackberry, but I'm sure someone will be able to find some.

[Ninja Loco]

One of the worst sufferers of ILS I have ever come across is Doodley Roobley or whatever the fuk his name is. He thinks of himself as a benchpress champion (with a bench shirt on of course, SURPRISE!) I feel bad for him because his ILS is compounded by his contracting imaginary benchpress numbers disorder.

Normally, I would never make fun of someone just because they look like a regular guy on the street but this guy claims to be the bronze world medalist in the benchpress, a 16 x world record holder and on his website it calls him "One of the hottest lifters in the world." Plus, when I joked about his having ILS he tripped out like I was trying to ruin his benchpressing career (career?) I marked him down as reason # 482 why bench shirts should be banned. Here he flexing his 174 pounds of massive muscle!

http://www.doctorbench.com/images/gallery/apf_ca_2007/apf_ca_2007_1.JPG

http://www.doctorbench.com/images/gallery/apf_nationals_2007/apf_nationals_2007_3.jpg

http://www.doctorbench.com/images/gallery/upa_030109/upa_030109_2.jpgDude I need a link to this socket wrench's website. Ive been googling and found nothing.


Edit: ok im a tool as well. all I had to do was check the link, lol. Toolness knows no bounds. Ima go hate on this fag.

[cook]

I had a buddy.900 lbs. squatter other lifts to match and also competed as bodybuilder.About 290 with a tremendous build.He worked as a doorman at a club.It used to be funny these kids with the ILS would come into the club all blowed up and then walk right into him and then you could see them deflate as soon as they saw him.

[hulk7510]

YouTube- Max Outt, Arrogant Personal Trainer... Episode 2: Imaginary Lat Syndrome

[Sean Katterle]

Dude I need a link to this socket wrench's website. Ive been googling and found nothing.


http://www.doctorbench.com/

He's one of the clowns who got me banned from posting comments on Powerlifting Watch (the biggest news site for the sport.) I'm a bi-monthly columnist for Iron Man Magazine, a freelance writer for Powerlifting USA and my company promotes the pro raw powerlifting at Ronnie Coleman's tradeshow but the owner of the site banned me because Doodley Roobley and his fellow shirt specialists cried non-stop that I was disrespecting them and their elite lifting accomplishments. So, slam away cause this censorship douche bag deserves it.

[crashcrew56]

Sean, you should be banned. You are a loud mouth and a pain in the ass, you show so much disrespect to so many lifters.

As a promoter of a large cash meet you should try to learn some professionalism.

[crashcrew56]

http://articles.elitefts.com/iron-brothers/entertainment-at-the-arnold-b-i-n-g-o/


This deserves it's own thead

[Ninja Loco]

http://www.doctorbench.com/

He's one of the clowns who got me banned from posting comments on Powerlifting Watch (the biggest news site for the sport.) I'm a bi-monthly columnist for Iron Man Magazine, a freelance writer for Powerlifting USA and my company promotes the pro raw powerlifting at Ronnie Coleman's tradeshow but the owner of the site banned me because Doodley Roobley and his fellow shirt specialists cried non-stop that I was disrespecting them and their elite lifting accomplishments. So, slam away cause this censorship douche bag deserves it.
Im familiar with you. Im a big fan of IM magazine.


There's nowhere to post comments on his site, though. I have to email him and thats really no fun.

[Sean Katterle]

Sean, you should be banned. You are a loud mouth and a pain in the ass, you show so much disrespect to so many lifters.

As a promoter of a large cash meet you should try to learn some professionalism.

The high squatting, mega layer, no squat walk out, belly benching, hands on spot, anything goes lifters always refer to it as "disrespect" when someone points out that that's what they're doing.

Some guy who's raw benching 440 learns how to use a double ply bench shirt and pushes 700 pounds off his chest then goes around claiming a 700 pound benchpress is a joke. So, when I point out that they're really a 440 pound bencher and a 700 pound shirt bencher it's disrespect in their eyes.

I know it's easier to pretend and to practice group ego boosting hypnosis without someone reminding you that it's not really you who's moving all of the weight, but I'm not planning on going away anytime soon and the vast majority of educated lifters in the gym think you're a fraud anyways because they're wise to the bench shirts and powerlifting suits now. (Thanks to people pulling back the curtain and doing away with the lie that the shirts and suits are just for "support".)

[crashcrew56]

A shirt bench is noit a raw bench, and I don't think anyone mistakes the two. APF style lifting is just that, nobody is trying to say that the squats and benchs there are the same as the raw walked-out ones, they are two different worlds. Just because some lifters here and there get passed with bullshit lifts is no reason to shit on every equipped lifter.

Outside of powerlifters, whenever I get asked my benc I give them my raw number, not my equipped, because they arn't asking for my equipped bench press. Most powerlifters are the same way.

[crashcrew56]

Oh yeah, and congrats on a chemically enhanced 405 bench and 500lb deadlift, what a huge accomplishment

[Sean Katterle]

Oh yeah, and congrats on a chemically enhanced 405 bench and 500lb deadlift, what a huge accomplishment

You're getting your facts screwed up. One time someone asked me what my best raw bench was and I said 405 pounds. Another time someone asked me if I'd ever used steroids and I said that over the course of 22 years in the gym I did one 30 day cycle of 50mg of dbol a day and two 60 day cycles of 500 to 750mg of Sustanon once every 7-10 days.

I took the dbol for a month when I turned 30 years old and I ran the two 60 day Sustanon cycles when I was 33/34 (taking 90 days off between each 60 day cycle.) Why did I use those drugs? Because I was working 50 hours a week as an assistant manager for Starbucks + 20 hours a week running my business and my ability to recover was becoming seriously inhibited by lack of rest and sleep and I really wanted to get from the mid/high 300s to four wheels on the bench, but was unable to do so on so little sleep, missed meals due to work and with painfully average natural ability.

So the multi ply shirt/suit lifters turned that into "Sean took tons of steroids just to raw bench 405 pounds!"

Personally, I don't care if people use steroids or not. My company's contest promotions do not test for them. If I could go back in time I'd probably have used steroids at an earlier age. But, looking at my genetic heart condition (congestive heart failure) that I didn't know about until I was 35 years old, that useage may have killed me as that's an unhealthy combination (I already sped the damage up by drinking too much caffeine, stressing out too much in life and not allowing myself time to unwind.)

[Sean Katterle]

Just because some lifters here and there get passed with bullshit lifts is no reason to shit on every equipped lifter.


That's just it. I've NEVER "shit on every equipped lifter." It's the frauds I call out who cry that because they apparently don't want to be singled out. I only criticize the extreme fringe of the circus side of the sport but their defense is "he's insulting ALL of us." They try and make it an Us vs Him argument so the spotlight is turned away from their deception.

Like when I was laughing at the bencher who got caught stuffing stuff inside his bench shirt to decrease the range of motion. His rebuttal was "Sean's attacking us because we choose to use bench shirts!" No, I was attacking HIM because he had rolled up knee wraps or something making a rectangular shelf underneath his shirt.

Or the guy who cuts his squats 4" high and claims it to be good. I'll point that out and he'll say "Sean's attacking our whole federation of lifters! He's disrespecting the ABC federation!" when in fact I'm just knocking him for his blatant high squatting.

[Loki]

Most teenagers have it lol

And LOTS of Joe's at the gym who weight 170-190lbs and think they're Jay Cutler or Wolf haha Truly BIG guys don't need to walk around with ILS they really are just fuckn BIG

[Ibarramedia]

http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_O5C5215.jpg

One person who does not have to worry about imaginary lat syndrome is Alina Popa. She has far bigger and better lats than these jokers and she even walks normally without flaring out her lats like these wannabe kids.

[jaykay]

http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_O5C5215.jpg

One person who does not have to worry about imaginary lat syndrome is Alina Popa. She has far bigger and better lats than these jokers and she even walks normally without flaring out her lats like these wannabe kids.

Oh my...I...I...I am in love...

[cook]

I have noticed through the years the better a bodybuilder gets the less of this they have.

[MusclesMarinara]

I was more looking at just his avatar.

im pretty sure thats how your arms are supposed to be if your doing a rear relaxed pose?

wheres your pic?.....

[JamesWebb]

posing for a picture is posing for a picture, walking around in a pose all day is ILS.

[crashcrew56]

You're getting your facts screwed up. One time someone asked me what my best raw bench was and I said 405 pounds. Another time someone asked me if I'd ever used steroids and I said that over the course of 22 years in the gym I did one 30 day cycle of 50mg of dbol a day and two 60 day cycles of 500 to 750mg of Sustanon once every 7-10 days.

I took the dbol for a month when I turned 30 years old and I ran the two 60 day Sustanon cycles when I was 33/34 (taking 90 days off between each 60 day cycle.) Why did I use those drugs? Because I was working 50 hours a week as an assistant manager for Starbucks + 20 hours a week running my business and my ability to recover was becoming seriously inhibited by lack of rest and sleep and I really wanted to get from the mid/high 300s to four wheels on the bench, but was unable to do so on so little sleep, missed meals due to work and with painfully average natural ability.




LOL @ your excuse for taking steroids, just admit that you wanted to take them, there is nothing wrong with that, but it's pathetic that you felt that you need to make a reason for using.

Try this, working 85-90 hours a week and getting 4-6 hours of sleep a night. I stilll managed to find time/energy to train and train my ass off.

[JustLuke]

This guy is hilarious, truly mediocrity at it's finest.

I'm number three! I'm number three! I'm number three!:lmao:
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[PSARG]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/ronniecolemanwalkin.jpg

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Imaginary lats.

[Sean Katterle]

LOL @ your excuse for taking steroids, just admit that you wanted to take them, there is nothing wrong with that, but it's pathetic that you felt that you need to make a reason for using.

Try this, working 85-90 hours a week and getting 4-6 hours of sleep a night. I stilll managed to find time/energy to train and train my ass off.

I didn't give you an excuse for why I used steroids. I told you my motivation and reason for taking them.

Look, I'm not gonna invest too much of my time debating with someone named crashcrew56 on an internet message board. I'm glad that you have time to post so much during your 90 hour work week (that's over 12 hours a day, 7 days a week average) and your ass reducing exercise sessions. But I've got a company to run, personal training to conduct, my own lifting and health to look after and a live in girlfriend to socialize with. You can continue crying out for more of my time but you're not gonna get too many more minutes of it.

The bottom line is, you're weak on specifics and facts and you're big on making generalities and dramatically defensive, broad sweeping statements. I've heard all of your points and counter points dozens of times over the 9 years I've worked in the industry so carry on and I'll keep on running my promotional company and conducting my work as a professional weight lifting journalist.

[Sean Katterle]

I said that over the course of 22 years in the gym I did one 30 day cycle of 50mg of dbol a day and two 60 day cycles of 500 to 750mg of Sustanon once every 7-10 days.

I took the dbol for a month when I turned 30 years old and I ran the two 60 day Sustanon cycles when I was 33/34 (taking 90 days off between each 60 day cycle.)

Personally, I don't care if people use steroids or not.

And the reason I included all of the information above is that there's miles of distance between using what I outlined and running stacks of test + deca + anadrol + dbol + fina + whatever. I know guys who go on 2 grams of juice a week + daily orals and stay on for 4 months straight. Some of them never come off and they just bridge between cycles.

So when my opponents (the fringe of the unlimited shirt/suit and loosely judged powerlifting crowd) attack me saying that I "took steroids" to raw bench 405 many people assume that I was jacked to the gills when doing so and that was hardly the case. But yes, I do know that using steroids is still using steroids. It's like pissing in someone's lemonade. Whether you just drip some piss into the glass or fill it up it's still pissed in lemonade.

Right now I'm on doctor prescribed HRT to counter the hormone lowering effects of all the heart meds I'm on (metoprolol, hydralazine, lanoxin, furosemide and lisinopril) and I take 100 - 150mg of test enanthate once every 7-9 days. Does that make me a juicer? LOL

My company doesn't conduct drug tests at our promotions because I don't work for the DEA and if I wanted to catch people using drugs I would have gotten a career in law enforcement. I'm a strong believer in personal freedoms and, even though I've never been a heavy user, I choose the don't ask/don't care approach to the subject.

[brandonp005]

My fuckin gym is full of these teens like this, they walk around in wife beatas skinny as hell prob like 140lbs tops, nd alywas have their shoulders flared foward nd arms out, cant stand it. Or they stand their with their sidekicks nd text while flexin lol such dumbasses.


haha...got a couple of those at my gym as well...especially in the summer when the college kids are in for break...lol

[Ibarramedia]

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp360/ibarramedia1/Alina%20Popa/DSC01018.jpg

[Dunkelheit23]

It's mostly just fat kids

[GetLean]

im pretty sure thats how your arms are supposed to be if your doing a rear relaxed pose?

wheres your pic?.....

I've got bigger muscels than you.. so why does it matter?

[flaccid_member]

It's mostly just fat kids

That and with partial forearm stubble. Usually combined with Under Armour and/or a "popped" collar.

That and a penchant for wearing sweatbands makes the ILS all the more apparent.

[Izzie Werner]

If you have an imaginary lat syndrome, you may be carrying a rolled-up carpet. (https://www.globalwebpage.com/invisible-lat-syndrome-meaning/)