Scoobysnacks
03-12-2009, 11:22 AM
Okay, here is the thread, if it becomes a good discussion/debate etc I will sticky it, but for now, just a thread.
For now I will say I understand there are all kinds of points of view on this. Ive used varying methods.
1) What worked best for me was carbing up largely on Weds as I decreased water and had dropped the added sea salt to my diet a couple days prior. As the show neared carbs tapered, water continued to taper, friday was more of a fat load, once dry sodium was put back in, and then a bit of water before stage.
2) ive also had success with simply keeping diet fairly the same, upping carbs slightly friday while ceasing all sea salt on meals and condiments (so just sodium from my six meals) and cutting water off at bedtime. Few more carb, fat sodium meals before stage and I dry out and fill out nicely.
3) I have also used a large carb load on Tues or Weds with just normal water intake no added salts, then back to a low to moderate carb diet with sodium back to normal and water high to keep peeing with a bit added fats to hold the carb load (if fat wasnt high to begin with).
Im not a huge fan of all this using whiting or tilapia or only fish and asparagus unless you have weight to make or special circumstances, which usually I never advise someone to chase weight, but at the national levels sometimes it makes sense.
Obviously there are no particulars here, Im just talking in general.
Lastly, I tell everyone, if you really dont understand how to manipulate sodium, potassium, water, carbs and fats Id just do #2 above.
Some of the common mistakes are removing ALL sodium or removing sodium too soon. Trust me the body is smarter than you and will adjust for this, you may have about a 12-18 hr window where you can trick it. Cutting all water is not bright either.
Lets see where this goes. If you want to add something please do, if you want to ask something please do.
Other topics are when to stop training, when to stop cardio, when to last train legs and when to stop HIIT cardio and LISS cardio, etc.
Thanks
Ss
For now I will say I understand there are all kinds of points of view on this. Ive used varying methods.
1) What worked best for me was carbing up largely on Weds as I decreased water and had dropped the added sea salt to my diet a couple days prior. As the show neared carbs tapered, water continued to taper, friday was more of a fat load, once dry sodium was put back in, and then a bit of water before stage.
2) ive also had success with simply keeping diet fairly the same, upping carbs slightly friday while ceasing all sea salt on meals and condiments (so just sodium from my six meals) and cutting water off at bedtime. Few more carb, fat sodium meals before stage and I dry out and fill out nicely.
3) I have also used a large carb load on Tues or Weds with just normal water intake no added salts, then back to a low to moderate carb diet with sodium back to normal and water high to keep peeing with a bit added fats to hold the carb load (if fat wasnt high to begin with).
Im not a huge fan of all this using whiting or tilapia or only fish and asparagus unless you have weight to make or special circumstances, which usually I never advise someone to chase weight, but at the national levels sometimes it makes sense.
Obviously there are no particulars here, Im just talking in general.
Lastly, I tell everyone, if you really dont understand how to manipulate sodium, potassium, water, carbs and fats Id just do #2 above.
Some of the common mistakes are removing ALL sodium or removing sodium too soon. Trust me the body is smarter than you and will adjust for this, you may have about a 12-18 hr window where you can trick it. Cutting all water is not bright either.
Lets see where this goes. If you want to add something please do, if you want to ask something please do.
Other topics are when to stop training, when to stop cardio, when to last train legs and when to stop HIIT cardio and LISS cardio, etc.
Thanks
Ss