Top 5 Strongest Andros'?

[Everex238]

was just curious (in order) what the top 5 strongest andro's are?

[maxititer]

first two

1. metribolon (used as standard for evaluation of androgenic activity of other steroids)
2. fluoxymesterone

on third place perhaps will go trenbolone

drostanolone - strong androgen too

[Everex238]

yeah, i was wondering if halo was number 1... what do you think 5 is? maybe anadrol?

[maxititer]

here is one old, but nice abstract of an article on that topic. according to it halo has quite low binding affinity to AR.

in what degree those or another steroids are androgenic will depend of its ability to bind androgen receptor first of all.

Our knowledge about AR receptor are far from complete, it is very complicated area of research and grossly neglected. For decades it is was debated if AR can stimulate directly proliferation of muscle satellite cells or not, now we know it can. When science in such a mess, wiser would be to rely on practical experience.


Relative binding affinity of anabolic-androgenic steroids: comparison of the binding to the androgen receptors in skeletal muscle and in prostate, as well as to sex hormone-binding globulin.

Saartok T, Dahlberg E, Gustafsson JA.
It is unclear whether anabolic steroids act on skeletal muscle via the androgen receptor (AR) in this tissue, or whether there is a separate anabolic receptor. When several anabolic steroids were tested as competitors for the binding of
[3H]methyltrienolone (MT; 17 beta-hydroxy-17 alpha-methyl-4,9,11-estratrien-3-one) to the AR in rat and rabbit skeletal muscle and rat prostate, respectively,

MT itself was the most efficient competitor.

1 alpha-Methyl-5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone (1 alpha-methyl-DHT; mesterolone) bound most avidly to sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) [relative binding affinity (RBA) about 4 times that of DHT].

Some anabolic-androgenic steroids bound strongly to the AR in skeletal muscle and prostate [ RBAs relative to that of MT:
MT greater than 19-nortestosterone ( NorT ; nandrolone)
greater than methenolone (17 beta-hydroxy-1-methyl-5 alpha-androst-1-en-3-one) greater than testosterone (T)
greater than 1 alpha-methyl-DHT].

In other cases, AR binding was weak (RBA values less than 0.05):
stanozolol (17 alpha-methyl-5 alpha- androstano [3,2-c]pyrazol-17 beta-ol), methanedienone (17 beta-hydroxy-17 alpha-methyl-1,4-androstadien-3-one), and fluoxymesterolone (9 alpha-fluoro-11 beta-hydroxy-17 alpha-methyl-T).

Other compounds had RBAs too low to be determined (e.g. oxymetholone (17 beta-hydroxy-2-hydroxymethylene-17 alpha-methyl-5 alpha-androstan-3-one) and ethylestrenol (17 alpha-ethyl-4- estren -17 beta-ol).

The competition pattern was similar in muscle and prostate, except for a higher RBA of DHT in the prostate. The low RBA of DHT in muscle was probably due to the previously reported rapid reduction of its 3-keto function to metabolites, which did not bind to the AR [5 alpha-androstane-3 alpha, 17 beta-diol and its 3 beta-isomer (3 alpha- and 3 beta-adiol, respectively)].

Some anabolic-androgenic steroids (only a few synthetic) bound to SHBG (1 alpha-methyl-DHT much greater than DHT greater than T greater than 3 beta-adiol greater than 3 alpha-adiol = 17 alpha-methyl-T greater than methenolone greater than methanedienone greater than stanozolol). The ratio of the RBA in rat muscle to that in the prostate (an estimate of the myotrophic potency of the compounds) was close to unity, varying only between about 0.4 and 1.7 in most cases.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 400 WORDS)

[Everex238]

interesting read bro

[Anthony]

cheque drops (Mibolerone) are way up there

[maxititer]

Mibolerone was on demand, even despite of it's absolutely crazy price, becasue it was not on WADA list for long time.

[Everex238]

always wanted to try those damn cheque drops

[BABOON]

I have 100 sublingual cheque drops sitting in a bag in my fridge. I never got round to using them. Now I'm saving them just incase war breaks out.

[Anthony]

crush those commies with your giant diseased liver!

one more - dimethyltrienolone. Probably stronger than metribolone but very little research.

[Everex238]

i dont even know any sources carrying metribolone or dimethyltrienolone lol.... whatever happened to MENT? is that ever going to come out?

[dan12]

cheque drops (Mibolerone) are way up there
I have always wanted to try cheque drops.

[Everex238]

I have always wanted to try cheque drops.

yeah i know. wish it was more available. i hear eye pee's suck ass

[Everex238]

where does anadrol rank?

[maxititer]

Anadrol/Oxymetholone same androgenic as testosterone, but has very good myotrophic index 3.20 compare testosterone 0.36. that means anadrol 9 times more effective for muscles hypertrophy then testosterone.

[Everex238]

Anadrol/Oxymetholone same androgenic as testosterone, but has very good myotrophic index 3.20 compare testosterone 0.36. that means anadrol 9 times more effective for muscles hypertrophy then testosterone.

damn. thanks bro, didnt even know that

[Brock]

was just curious (in order) what the top 5 strongest andro's are?


dimethyltrienolone unless I am mistaken

[Brock]

I have 100 sublingual cheque drops sitting in a bag in my fridge. I never got round to using them. Now I'm saving them just incase war breaks out.


LOL, I have 100 Anadrol tabs hidden just incase I go back to jail. I am going to have my girlfriend smuggle them in to me in her ass.

[Everex238]

LOL, I have 100 Anadrol tabs hidden just incase I go back to jail. I am going to have my girlfriend smuggle them in to me in her ass.

hahaha, nice man

[musclempire]

Wow..a "when i go to prison stash" and a girl willin to sneak them in..doesnt get anymore hardcore than that lol

[Everex238]

Wow..a "when i go to prison stash" and a girl willin to sneak them in..doesnt get anymore hardcore than that lol


haha. you have that right my friend!

[Bluestorm]

According to Llewellyns literature the androgenic to anabolic dissociation for the highest androgenic levels falls like this:
----------------------------------androgenic------anabolic
Cheque Drops(Mibolerone)--------------1,800------4,100
Dimethyltrienolone------------------------10,000+-----10,000+
Halotestin(Fluoxymesterone)------------850------1,900
MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)-------650------2,300
Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)-------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000
Tren (all esters)-500------500

[Everex238]

According to Llewellyns literature the androgenic to anabolic dissociation for the highest androgenic levels falls like this:
----------------------------------androgenic------anabolic
Cheque Drops(Mibolerone)--------------1,800------4,100
Dimethyltrienolone------------------------10,000+-----10,000+
Halotestin(Fluoxymesterone)------------850------1,900
MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)-------650------2,300
Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)-------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000
Tren (all esters)-500------500

great post! wow. wish i could find metribolone. what is the normal dose for that?

[Bluestorm]

Sources were carrying the powder not too long ago.
Doses are less than 1mg per day. I did see a couple logs showing guys using 1mg or more per day, but I think those were bullshit.
As harsh as this compound is(hepatoxicity), mcg doses are the best bet. And duration should not last more than 4 weeks.

[Everex238]

holy shit, mcg doses?? wow, i guess 1g would last FOREVER

[Everex238]

wait, is Methyltrienolone also methyl trenbolone? or are they different?

[Bluestorm]

Metribolone is methyltrienolone. It is basically methylated tren.
...but I do believe there is or rather was a pro hormone or something on the market called "methyl trenbolone". Lots of people confused the two. If you are getting real, legit methyltrienolone, it is some super potent stuff.

[Everex238]

gotcha. so metribolone is methyltrienolone and the average dose per day is less than 1mg?