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not2big
02-11-2009, 01:15 PM
where do you admin. your sites, do you rotate your injection sites, and if so, where?

Johnny Phenomenon
02-11-2009, 01:24 PM
I rotate (depending on the compound) delt, quad, delt, quad, glute, glute...repeat.

Jello
02-11-2009, 01:25 PM
Always rotate your sites. Helps reduce the amount of scar tissue you will get. I pin both glutes, delts, quads, biceps, and pecs. Have not tried calves, or lats yet.

marcus300
02-11-2009, 01:25 PM
Yes rotate sites, also alot of info for you at http://www.howtodoinjections.com/im.html

Johnny Phenomenon
02-11-2009, 01:39 PM
Always rotate your sites. Helps reduce the amount of scar tissue you will get. I pin both glutes, delts, quads, biceps, and pecs. Have not tried calves, or lats yet.

Ever hit a nerve or vein?

THUNDERGOD
02-11-2009, 01:41 PM
Delt, glute, lats.

Jello
02-11-2009, 01:42 PM
Ever hit a nerve or vein?

Scared as shit the first time I tried, but next to the glutes, probably the most pain free stops to pin for me. No never hit a nerve or had to re-pin because of blood.

not2big
02-11-2009, 01:49 PM
only doing 1 injection a week...rotating glutes should be fine huh?

Johnny Phenomenon
02-11-2009, 01:53 PM
only doing 1 injection a week...rotating glutes should be fine huh?

What compound? And I would split it into at least 2 shots, this will give you better blood stability and less crashes.

TaylorB
02-11-2009, 01:55 PM
delst quads glutes ventrogluetal traps

not2big
02-11-2009, 01:57 PM
What compound? And I would split it into at least 2 shots, this will give you better blood stability and less crashes.

i'm doing 300 mg of test c and two 20 units injections of HCG

Crexis
02-11-2009, 02:07 PM
2cc's of test in my delts per week atm.. Usually take my glutes aswell but delts are so easy when your girlfriend injects :D

Johnny Phenomenon
02-11-2009, 02:09 PM
i'm doing 300 mg of test c and two 20 units injections of HCG

Why so low? HRT?

not2big
02-11-2009, 02:13 PM
yea...good guess...why you think thats low...anabolics 9th addition talks about considerable gains when admin 200-600mg a week based on patience blood work before therapy..your thoughts?

Johnny Phenomenon
02-11-2009, 02:31 PM
I think if you are doing HRT, that dose is replacing hormones and bringing you to a "natural" state. I always go at least 500mg of test, but that is just a preference thing; I would rather be sure and not take a chance on minimal gains and 500 isn't that high IMO.

not2big
02-11-2009, 02:41 PM
so what are you normally stacking with the test, anything? ill see where im at when this run is over..if i haven't gained like i think i should have..i will up it to 400-450. my HRT guy is saying the HCG and 300 mg with .5 mg of arimidex should put my levels at around 400..that should be significant for a 10-15lb gain with correct diet and exercise i would think...

Johnny Phenomenon
02-11-2009, 02:49 PM
so what are you normally stacking with the test, anything? ill see where im at when this run is over..if i haven't gained like i think i should have..i will up it to 400-450. my HRT guy is saying the HCG and 300 mg with .5 mg of arimidex should put my levels at around 400..that should be significant for a 10-15lb gain with correct diet and exercise i would think...

I have used EQ, dbols, anadrol and they all worked wonderfully. I'm waiting to try test/tren next. Yeah go with what you think will work, but that was just MHO. Sometimes when you have been training low normal levels will give you a huge kick. Good luck.

not2big
02-11-2009, 03:32 PM
yea...my first cycle so we'll see what happens..i am optimistic for sure...if i'm not where i want to be...we'll go from there..thanx for the input brother

Darkhrse99
02-11-2009, 08:02 PM
I've been rotating delts and glutes.

~BG~
02-11-2009, 08:14 PM
I agree, get rotating as soon and as many sites as you can. I have some hard spots already here and there in my glutes . Your quads can be shot in a few places, find the ones that are least painful, delts are cake and glutes. Give the quads a few injects to get used to it, mine hurt maybe the first 4 times now theres no pain.

~BG~
02-11-2009, 08:16 PM
ventrogluetal
I wish I could have someone show me exactly where that is, Ive seen the diagram but Im still a little if'y when it comes to doing it. Everybody has different size hands lol.

Bigmorgs
02-11-2009, 08:23 PM
Delts and Quads.

Heard of Bi's Chest and Lats but never been game......

Formula94
02-12-2009, 03:25 AM
1.5cc ed: delts, quads, glutes. I'm only in week one so I'm sure I'll be trying new sites within the next few weeks. Thinking lats and traps.

militantmuscle
02-12-2009, 03:44 AM
Shock when you talk about dosages, you have to take into account natural endogenous levels (which is roughly 50mg weekly, which divides into 7mg daily). Testosterone cypionate has an active life of 15-16 days, which means its half life is 7-8 days. In other words, one shot of Test Cyp 200 would disperse 100mg in 7-8 days, and the rest in another 7-8 days.

Base your dosages on your bodyweight (you should be around <10% bf to use your bodyweight as a reference) to determine how much exogenous testosterone you really need to illicit a maximum response without elevating cortisol and estrogen.

not2big
02-12-2009, 10:07 AM
hmmm sounds credible i'm taking an estrogen inhibitor for e production..so i should be good there..just wonder why people are running 600+ a week..i can see400-500, even 600...i've read studies where people have seen optimal gains from 200-600 a week...i'm just not buying i'm not going to see ANY gains off 300 a week while using HCG also

luv2lft
02-20-2009, 08:50 PM
what size pin are you using for delts

chucksm00th
02-20-2009, 11:05 PM
delts, glutes,quads (teardrops), tri's, lats, traps...done bi's but too painful

maxititer
02-20-2009, 11:36 PM
do it as slow as only possible, other wise oil bubble inside muscle guaranteed;
pull the plunger back before pushing, to be sure it is not in vein;

militantmuscle
02-21-2009, 01:54 AM
hmmm sounds credible i'm taking an estrogen inhibitor for e production..so i should be good there..just wonder why people are running 600+ a week..i can see400-500, even 600...i've read studies where people have seen optimal gains from 200-600 a week...i'm just not buying i'm not going to see ANY gains off 300 a week while using HCG also


Honestly, it's the whole more is better mentality, the up the dose bro! attitude.

There will come a point and time when an experienced athlete will run 600+ mg, depending on the amount of bodyweight and his cycle design, but most novice users will not need that amount.

And yes, provided you are putting your body in the ideal anabolic state with training and nutrition, you will grow for a fact, even with 300mg of test. If you can grow without test, why can't you grow when you add 300mg/wk???

Aaron Singerman
02-21-2009, 03:23 AM
I've always been a glutes only guy... recently I have switched to hitting by lateral and rear heads of my delt. It's nice to switch from a 22g to a insulin needle...

FYI, You can inject any oil through a insulin syringe. Just pull out the stopper and load the needle through the back. Put the stopper back on and get rip of the excess air... and PRESTO... it's ready to go. Since I can't reach my side delts easily and can't even get close to reaching my rear delts, I have Amy (GF) do it for me... strangely, she loves doing it... I think she actually looks forward to it!

I only posted this about the insulin syringes and injecting oil because when I posted something similar on MD, a while ago, people freaked out... they had never heard of this before... So, if you haven't, it's worth a try!

chucksm00th
02-21-2009, 10:51 AM
I've always been a glutes only guy... recently I have switched to hitting by lateral and rear heads of my delt. It's nice to switch from a 22g to a insulin needle...

FYI, You can inject any oil through a insulin syringe. Just pull out the stopper and load the needle through the back. Put the stopper back on and get rip of the excess air... and PRESTO... it's ready to go. Since I can't reach my side delts easily and can't even get close to reaching my rear delts, I have Amy (GF) do it for me... strangely, she loves doing it... I think she actually looks forward to it!

I only posted this about the insulin syringes and injecting oil because when I posted something similar on MD, a while ago, people freaked out... they had never heard of this before... So, if you haven't, it's worth a try!

Agreed...been doing that way (loading from back ) for the last year or so..i guess i got tired of standing there for an 1hr trying to load up a insulin drawing it out like any old regular pin lol

bigdaddyd
02-21-2009, 11:25 AM
I was chicken to do anywhere but the glute since I learned how from the internet. LOL

maxititer
02-21-2009, 12:05 PM
I'm using insulin syringe all the time for sub c injections.

here is what I use to load oil into syringe

ANABOLIC1
02-21-2009, 12:12 PM
I rotate delts, glutes, biceps, pecs.

Mainly delts though.

To the guy that said biceps hurt, it is not bad at all.

Pecs is a blast.

Aaron Singerman
02-21-2009, 12:16 PM
I was chicken to do anywhere but the glute since I learned how from the internet. LOL

I was the same way, but as scar tissue built I had to find other sites.