woman addicted to bodybuilding.nice!

[hulk7510]

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/lauren-the-bodybuilder/p70h1h0?q=Addiction&rel=msn&from=en-us_msnhp&form=MSNHED&gt1=42007

[inkedleo88]

i only saw the clip. does anybody know what she does for a living? trophy wife?

[barbellman]

I've seen her at the arnolds. Her voice is 10x worse in person, using WAAY WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too much testosterone and a big ass growth gut. She's not even big either.

[GirlyMuscle]

Lauren Powers

She's in everything about female bbers. She makes her living by doing sessions, webcam, etc. Not married as far I know. Her mom looks younger than she is.

M1hl5KTiTu4

[barbellman]

Lauren Powers

She's in everything about female bbers. She makes her living by doing sessions, webcam, etc. Not married as far I know. Her mom looks younger than she is.

M1hl5KTiTu4


sessions?

[James Tucci]

I wish they had put her on the real house wives of OC. How awesome would've that been? lol

[GirlyMuscle]

sessions?

Muscle worship sessions. Wrestling sessions. google it.

[barbellman]

Muscle worship sessions. Wrestling sessions. google it.



oh laaaaaaaaaaaaawd I think I'd rather not :no:

[Ibarramedia]

She does not look like a fbb anymore and has transitioned to ballroom dancing but she still takes any offers and opportunities for any show fbb related. There are chances for other competitors to do other shows featuring fbbs but because of the dubious direction of some shows or because they just don't want to be profiled, other competitors just decline participating. Enter Lauren Powers by default. She has a business manager that looks out for stuff like this and books her immediately. She also lives in California so the proximity is there.

[Curt James]

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/lauren-the-bodybuilder/p70h1h0?q=Addiction&rel=msn&from=en-us_msnhp&form=MSNHED&gt1=42007

I looked for it on YouTube...

M1hl5KTiTu4

Someone mentioned that Lauren Powers has an agent who is very aggressive in seeking opportunities for her to get media exposure.

Remember Lauren's appearance in the Lady Gaga video with Beyonce?

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[Curt James]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1nLdNGnrAes/TRtfLiigfkI/AAAAAAAAB9E/en5T-gUyjq0/laurenpowersintelephone.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Powers

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1301762/

[Curt James]

I looked for it on YouTube...
(snip)

D'OH! :o

[barbellman]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1nLdNGnrAes/TRtfLiigfkI/AAAAAAAAB9E/en5T-gUyjq0/laurenpowersintelephone.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Powers

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1301762/








STARmeter:Down 53% in popularity this week.

LOL

[MisterSweden]

This looks like a real women who could give you a good neck massage.

If she does what she loves, who cares how she looks? I bet she lifts a lot more than the ordinary Joe at any Fitness Planet gym.

[Curt James]

She does not look like a fbb anymore and has transitioned to ballroom dancing but she still takes any offers and opportunities for any show fbb related. There are chances for other competitors to do other shows featuring fbbs but because of the dubious direction of some shows or because they just don't want to be profiled, other competitors just decline participating. Enter Lauren Powers by default. She has a business manager that looks out for stuff like this and books her immediately. She also lives in California so the proximity is there.

It's to Powers' credit that she pursues work, though, isn't it?

And other women in the industry are seeking publicity and media exposure. Have you seen these comedy videos starring IFPA Pro Yenny Polanco?

-GS0JwONeG8

6wmoWAHN8OI

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A different approach.

http://www.yenny-polanco.com/

http://musclememory.com/show.php?s=yenny+polanco&g=F

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1nLdNGnrAes/TRtj-lSvEXI/AAAAAAAAB9M/0FGRAdPjfs8/yennypolanco.jpg

[GirlyMuscle]

^^She's adorable! I love someone that make fun of themselves. :-)

[HammerStrength12]

Why does Lauren the only one on all these tv shows?

[HammerStrength12]

I've seen her at the arnolds. Her voice is 10x worse in person, using WAAY WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too much testosterone and a big ass growth gut. She's not even big either.


Damn ur right. She's all side effects and no muscle...

[toxic Avenger]

They have her lumped in with people that eat chalk and toilet paper.
I think some TV journalists should be slapped hard for this.

[MeatHead4Life]

did anyone else click on the chick who's addicted to chalk..... WEIRD!!!!!

[barbellman]

Damn ur right. She's all side effects and no muscle...


Yea sorry, not trying to shit on the lady, just telling it like it is. She talked to me at the Arnold, being friendly and I was in complete shock at her voice and face / stuble. Nice gal, just way way overboard with the hormones, but more so I'd say the GH her hands were fucking INSANE looking. Sweet gal though :yep:

[Mt. St. Gabriel]

This lady is part of the reason why I have to contsantly battle with female newcomers/ clients to my gym. They dont want to look like a man and then I have to explain to them that these women do steroids in order to sound and look like that. This is a huge missconception amongst woman who know nothing about our sport and lifestyle. They think if you lift heavy and train hard there gonna turn into big bulky men. Somebody either the women or the journalists need to disclose this information to the unsuspecting public before they air this kind of lifestyle video. Oh and by the way that is the same woman who said she "HELD ON TO HER FEMININITY" in the movie Bigger Faster Stronger. LMAO ! Clearly she is delusional... FYI you look like a transgender she male that is the reality

[Ibarramedia]

It's to Powers' credit that she pursues work, though, isn't it?

And other women in the industry are seeking publicity and media exposure. Have you seen these comedy videos starring IFPA Pro Yenny Polanco?

-GS0JwONeG8

6wmoWAHN8OI

MVp2Y6fgs6k

A different approach.

http://www.yenny-polanco.com/

http://musclememory.com/show.php?s=yenny+polanco&g=F

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1nLdNGnrAes/TRtj-lSvEXI/AAAAAAAAB9M/0FGRAdPjfs8/yennypolanco.jpg



Curt, I'm not against Lauren finding work. It helps pay her bills, but in reading posts and having conversations with competitors, I realize that the catch 22 here is that the competitors do not want to be portrayed negatively in the documentaries/tv shows that are being churned out by the different cable networks. I'm pretty sure you may have read about the different shows being produced involving FBBs in threads here at RX, at MD, SC and others. Typically a producer will approach a competitor and after an interview and research, the competitor declines and Lauren thus ends up with the role because she:

1) Wanted it so badly
2) If she waited for other competitors to take up the offer, but did not, then she enters the picture and takes it by default simply because no one else would want it.
3) Her manager approached her for it because she is connected with Hollywood. And because no one else would do it.

Usually after the program airs, the competitors who would have ended up on the show say they are thankful they did not accept the role because they did not like how the program edited the segments, made FBB to be a negative thing such as addicts, obssesive compulsives, fetishists, sessionists, all on performance enhancing drugs. There is nothing wrong with the fetishists, sessionists, webcammers, and those appearing in soft porn videos but it is not representative of all FBBs. The general public will think that they all do this.

Since it is a tv show, the producers want to sensationalize it and add a little intrigue or hook the audience into some drama like how they got into lifting or if they have eating disorders or if they were abused. The competitors want a show that will showcase the healthy benefits of resistance training, bodybuilding, eating a healthy diet and not the 'other' side of the industry pertaining to adult entertainment. All that might not be too interesting to the tv producers who want something juicy for their episode. the competitors on the other hand just want to be portrayed respectfully. Look it up and you will find that 99% of tv shows featuring fbb and documentaries involve Lauren Powers.

[Tre]

There are female schmoes, rather 'schmoettes', too.

[tammyp]

i hate the fact that lauren is the main stream media face of fbbing.

[DJTree]

This lady is part of the reason why I have to contsantly battle with female newcomers/ clients to my gym. They dont want to look like a man and then I have to explain to them that these women do steroids in order to sound and look like that. This is a huge missconception amongst woman who know nothing about our sport and lifestyle. They think if you lift heavy and train hard there gonna turn into big bulky men. Somebody either the women or the journalists need to disclose this information to the unsuspecting public before they air this kind of lifestyle video. Oh and by the way that is the same woman who said she "HELD ON TO HER FEMININITY" in the movie Bigger Faster Stronger. LMAO ! Clearly she is delusional... FYI you look like a transgender she male that is the reality

I like the way Charles Glass phrased it best: "Those women don't look like that by accident."

He goes on to talk about the chemicals and diet regimen, but that one sentence sums it up for me and always helps me when I address that question.

Woman: "I just want to tone. I really don't want to lift weights and next thing I end up looking like a bodybuilder."
Me: "Those women don't look like that by accident."

[test4life1]

I wouldn't touch her, way to manly, but her mom can defintly get it. She has that sexy well kept oc housewife look, i'd wreck her for sure.

[DJTree]

I'll say this though: It was an unpleasant jolt to go from that perfume ad featuring Shakira straight to Lauren Powers. :eek:

[DJTree]

Just watched the one about the guy "addicted" to pizza. He was crying with shame like he was a child-neglecting heroin addict. Poor guy.

Of course, all I could think was

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[NickD]

I agree with a lot of the statements mentioned (especially the voice, I love a girl with a sexy voice and not someone who sounds like she smoked 5 packs a day for 50 years even though she never touched one), however I believe more in the principle of being yourself and not caring about others as long as your are happy with who you are so if she is, who am I to judge?

[Curt James]

^^She's adorable! I love someone that make fun of themselves. :-)

Same here. :)


Why does Lauren the only one on all these tv shows?

Powers might seem delusional to many, but she's certainly no dummy. According to her Wiki page, she was her high school valedictorian and graduated from college with a business degree.

Her resume includes firefighter and ballroom dancer! Can you say diverse? I'm sure there are producers who see that and are intrigued.


(snip) Usually after the program airs, the competitors who would have ended up on the show say they are thankful they did not accept the role(snip)

Then Powers is doing other ladies a favor by figuratively jumping on those hand grenades of bad publicity. Still, I wonder what she was paid for that Gaga video. You think maybe twelve dollars? :rolleyes:


All that might not be too interesting to the tv producers who want something juicy for their episode. the competitors on the other hand just want to be portrayed respectfully. Look it up and you will find that 99% of tv shows featuring fbb and documentaries involve Lauren Powers.

No surprise that TV producers are looking for goofy or bizarre things to put on their programs. Shock value sells, too.

Powers is obviously no wallflower. Surfer, firefighter, Harley owner, bodybuilder, dancer... she's out there pursuing opportunities that—as you stated—other women are not.

Where's the agency which promotes this female ideal that the majority of the population would find satisfactory? :dunno:


There are female schmoes, rather 'schmoettes', too.

I'm sure that's true, too. Although I hate the term schmoe.

There are people who like muscle. And they are on a scale of intensity like fans of any sport or activity. I'm sure many here have that friend who has their van or car decked out in their favorite football team's colors as well as their house, sweatshirts, t-shirts, and other clothing and accessories all screaming football or NASCAR or whatever their particular interest happens to be. Extremists.


I like the way Charles Glass phrased it best: "Those women don't look like that by accident."

He goes on to talk about the chemicals and diet regimen, but that one sentence sums it up for me and always helps me when I address that question.

Woman: "I just want to tone. I really don't want to lift weights and next thing I end up looking like a bodybuilder."
Me: "Those women don't look like that by accident."

That's a neat quote, but it's not the most accurate, imo. I mean how many women out there have ever dieted down to see what's under all that?

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1nLdNGnrAes/TRuxv3rGmvI/AAAAAAAAB9c/F3-m9HB5AnA/example.jpg

Glass is right; they don't look like that by accident, but what would they look like if they took deliberate action including eating to get lean and lifting to build up? What would she look like after training?

Anyway, if Powers is the face of women's bodybuilding due to her media exposure and people don't like it, well, someone should work to offer an alternative, a different face or personality.

[AussieMuscle]

I recall Lauren Powers doing work for MD when Dave was there and also in the movie Bigger, Faster, Stronger.

Why can't someone like Hayley McNeff be the face of FBB in the public eye. It would be seen totally differently..

[GirlyMuscle]

I like the way Charles Glass phrased it best: "Those women don't look like that by accident."

He goes on to talk about the chemicals and diet regimen, but that one sentence sums it up for me and always helps me when I address that question.

Woman: "I just want to tone. I really don't want to lift weights and next thing I end up looking like a bodybuilder."
Me: "Those women don't look like that by accident."

As a trainer, I hear the "I don't want to get big and bulky" all the time. I'm gonna borrow this one!

[BABABOOEY]

Why do they always use Lauren Powers to represent female bodybuilders? She only won 2 NPC Califorornia titles (1 of em novice). I just saw her on Real Sports the other day and the panel dogged her pretty bad. Colett was on the same show and that fucken Bryant Gumble compared her to Thor.

They could of profiled a girl like Haley or Iris. Even then they'd find something negative to say about them.

[MeatHead4Life]

I recall Lauren Powers doing work for MD when Dave was there and also in the movie Bigger, Faster, Stronger.

Why can't someone like Hayley McNeff be the face of FBB in the public eye. It would be seen totally differently..



Yuuuup.

[Curt James]

Why do they always use Lauren Powers to represent female bodybuilders? She only won 2 NPC Califorornia titles (1 of em was novice class). I just saw her on Real Sports the other day and the panel dogged her pretty bad. Collet was on the same show and that fucken Bryant Gumble compared her to Thor.

They could of profiled a girl like Haley or Iris. Even then they'd find something negative to say about them.

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Hopefully McNeff can test that if "Raising the Bar: 4" is completed with her as one of the stars.

Iris has already been assaulted by the announcers on "Wipe Out".

I can't find the video, but the one guy kept calling her "that guy" or "man".

[pfunk]

Why doesn't someone like Haley, or any other FBB, get a hold of Lauren's Hollywood agent.

Shoot, if that agent can get Lauren jobs...

[Ibarramedia]

Same here. :)

<many snips>


Powers might seem delusional to many, but she's certainly no dummy. According to her Wiki page, she was her high school valedictorian and graduated from college with a business degree.



Then Powers is doing other ladies a favor by figuratively jumping on those hand grenades of bad publicity. Still, I wonder what she was paid for that Gaga video. You think maybe twelve dollars? :rolleyes:

That's not the point. The competitors want good publicity so that they can be taken seriously and respected and not looked upon as total circus freaks.


I can't read minds but I am guessing that they would rather no one did the shows than have Lauren become their voice since they feel she does not represent them. It might seem like asking a lot but what I am guessing they want is respectability in representation and new faces other than Lauren Powers. If the 'perfect' documentary about fbbs existed and they could look nto the future to see how it would exactly be done then other competitors would do it.


No surprise that TV producers are looking for goofy or bizarre things to put on their programs. Shock value sells, too.


^^ You said it, alright. ^^^

Powers is obviously no wallflower. Surfer, firefighter, Harley owner, bodybuilder, dancer... she's out there pursuing opportunities that—as you stated—other women are not.

Where's the agency which promotes this female ideal that the majority of the population would find satisfactory? :dunno:


There is no agency Curt. It's most of the competitors. Again, it is the producers that make the shows less than repectable. If all you want is publicity for the sake of publicity then by all means go ahead. The competitors want good features, good coverage, no negative stuff. In short they really want and believe that they should be looked upon as good role models for young girls.






Anyway, if Powers is the face of women's bodybuilding due to her media exposure and people don't like it, well, someone should work to offer an alternative, a different face or personality.

If they can make the show respectable, then they would do it. The thing is no one wants to do it because the show whether by design or not ends up bellittling the competitors, having them looked at condescendingly or portrayed as flawed individuals. Do you like that?

Why don't you ask Zoa Linsey, Helle Nielsen, Tina Chandler, Nicole Ball, Kayde Puckett, and many other FBB,FIT/FIG Bikini competitor what they want done in a show. If they had the power to do a show they way they want it done, I suspect it will be set up in a day in the life. With competitors interacting with family, going over the diet, footages of gym training, posing practice. Talking about the expenses for their suits and whatnot. But that may bore the producers to sleep. I don't know if I will have time to do research but I will dig out some threads on this shows and the comments included.

[Ibarramedia]

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Hopefully McNeff can test that if "Raising the Bar: 4" is completed with her as one of the stars.

Iris has already been assaulted by the announcers on "Wipe Out".

I can't find the video, but the one guy kept calling her "that guy" or "man".


That's what I mean Curt. Do you want to keep seeing shows like that?

[pfunk]

That's what I mean Curt. Do you want to keep seeing shows like that?

However, if we have more FBBs other than Lauren and Jayne Trcka getting national TV exposure, perhaps it could be a good thing. Maybe one of the girls will have pizzaz and/or captivate the viewing public.

The male BB physique was not popular and probably freaked a bunch of people out. It took a rare individual like Arnold to captivate the public's mind.

I want a girl like Sarah Hayes to get some pub. To me, she posseses a muscular version of the "girl next door' look

[2hot4u]

i wish they would pick a female bodybuilder that actually accomplished a record in competing in the sport of wbb like Cathy Le Francios or Yaxeni or betty pariso for example. and make it something respectable instead of constantly making our sport look bad and why is bb so addictive and not other sports like baseball or skating? Athletes spend more time on there sport to improve such as iceskating. No one thinks twice about a girl spending 2 hours of rink time to improve but a wbb is weird to workout??? come on folks let's get a clue!!!!!
Why doesn't someone like Haley, or any other FBB, get a hold of Lauren's Hollywood agent.

Shoot, if that agent can get Lauren jobs...

[Curt James]

That's what I mean Curt. Do you want to keep seeing shows like that?

No, what I want are announcers who are professional and show respect instead of going for the easy jab or stupid joke.

"Oh, look at her arms. They're bigger than mine. I'll call her a dude and it will be funny."

:rolleyes: :mad:


i wish they would pick a female bodybuilder that actually accomplished a record in competing in the sport of wbb like Cathy Le Francios or Yaxeni or betty pariso for example. and make it something respectable instead of constantly making our sport look bad and why is bb so addictive and not other sports like baseball or skating? Athletes spend more time on there sport to improve such as iceskating. No one thinks twice about a girl spending 2 hours of rink time to improve but a wbb is weird to workout??? come on folks let's get a clue!!!!!

Because people focus on appearance more often than the amount of hours put into a sport or activity. I say it comes down to insecurity. People with unusual physiques intimidate most average joes and janes. Just look at the rise of Planet Fitness or at least the popularity of their marketing approach.

Even many Gold's Gyms are now switching over to this "non-judgmental" approach to running a gym.

[Curt James]

The competitors want good publicity so that they can be taken seriously and respected and not looked upon as total circus freaks.

I can't read minds but I am guessing that they would rather no one did the shows than have Lauren become their voice since they feel she does not represent them. It might seem like asking a lot but what I am guessing they want is respectability in representation and new faces other than Lauren Powers. If the 'perfect' documentary about fbbs existed and they could look into the future to see how it would exactly be done then other competitors would do it.

If they can make the show respectable, then they would do it. The thing is no one wants to do it because the show whether by design or not ends up bellittling the competitors, having them looked at condescendingly or portrayed as flawed individuals. Do you like that?


I'm not getting the Lauren hate. If anyone wants an alternative then they're encouraged to create it. I suspect Powers would encourage any woman to follow her lead or make her own path.

This IFPA Pro Polanco looks like she has initiative or creative people pushing her.

Hayley has Mike Pulcinella filming her from what I've read of Mike's posts. Again, creative people in her corner. Seems as if Neff needs no pushing. She's putting herself out there. She competed in the recent BvP competition and is apparently pursuing RTB4.

Pulcinella, Palumbo, and her own drive should make Neff a very marketable FBB. Or perhaps she'll be the one to blaze that proverbial trail in the new WP division.

I have no issue with WP. More power to another division offering opportunities for athletes to compete. Just wasn't crazy about how Chic rolled it out. "Women's Bodybuilding is dead!" :cloud: :no:

[FitnBuf]

TLC just ran this program tonight in Colorado...the way they presented it was so negative. Like working out was a terrible thing! They were appalled that she trains six days a week....whatever!! Seems fine to me!

Then they was asking her in a sympathetic tone, when she had time for herself, and she replied sad acting like she has no time for herself....feeding into the crap!!

For me working out IS my time!! the entire theme of the program was negative to bodybuilding.

[Diabetic Muscle]

I watched a few mins of it but just turned it off. She isn't helping the cause at all just feeding into the stereotype. My god that girl with the thumb sucking was just stupid, grow up and get over it.

[Curt James]

TLC just ran this program tonight in Colorado...the way they presented it was so negative. Like working out was a terrible thing! They were appalled that she trains six days a week....whatever!! Seems fine to me!

Then they was asking her in a sympathetic tone, when she had time for herself, and she replied sad acting like she has no time for herself....feeding into the crap!!

For me working out IS my time!! the entire theme of the program was negative to bodybuilding.

From all her interviews she seems ultra-confident, so this seems as if she was putting on the sad act in order to get air time.

Gotta be about the Benjamins.

[Ibarramedia]

I'm not getting the Lauren hate. If anyone wants an alternative then they're encouraged to create it. I suspect Powers would encourage any woman to follow her lead or make her own path.

This IFPA Pro Polanco looks like she has initiative or creative people pushing her.

Hayley has Mike Pulcinella filming her from what I've read of Mike's posts. Again, creative people in her corner. Seems as if Neff needs no pushing. She's putting herself out there. She competed in the recent BvP competition and is apparently pursuing RTB4.

Pulcinella, Palumbo, and her own drive should make Neff a very marketable FBB. Or perhaps she'll be the one to blaze that proverbial trail in the new WP division.

I have no issue with WP. More power to another division offering opportunities for athletes to compete. Just wasn't crazy about how Chic rolled it out. "Women's Bodybuilding is dead!" :cloud: :no:



I never said I was criticizing Lauren Powers nor even hating on her. It's just that according to the competitors she is not totally representative of FBB. I'm having a hard time explaining this to you because we seem to be misunderstanding each other or you just feel like debating and arguing for the sake of it. You know that I support the competitors, I don't need to remind you of that because you know how I feel. Have you seen all the FBB related documentaries? I have and I recorded most of them. There are also video clips available on the web and I will create a thread featuring all of them so that you can view them and see for yourself.

Here are a few threads on FBB documentaries:

MSNBC Documentaries: Twisted Sisters - RX Muscle Forums

MSNBC: Twisted Sisters

Women's Bodybuilding on an upcoming episode of Real Sports - RX Muscle Forums

HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumble: Female Bodybuilders

Women in Bodybuilding on E! Channel - RX Muscle Forums

The E! Hollywood True Story: Femlae Bodybuilders

http://www.unrealmuscle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11276

http://www.unrealmuscle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13123&start=0

MSNBC Hooked: Muscle Women

http://www.unrealmuscle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13139&hilit=E%21+the+true+hollywood+story+female+bodybui lders

The E! Hollywood True Story: Female Bodybuilders

Thank GOD I Turned Down This "Opportunity"!!! - Siouxcountry.com

Thank GOD I Turned Down This "Opportunity"!!!

http://www.siouxcountry.com/showthread.php?t=2494&highlight=hooked%3A+muscle+women

http://www.siouxcountry.com/showthread.php?t=134&highlight=muscle+women+documentary

Muscle Women on MSNBC

Documentary on MSNBC - Siouxcountry.com

MSNBC: Twisted Sisters

Taboo: Female Bodybuilding - Siouxcountry.com

National Georgraphic's Taboo: Gender Benders (Female Bodybuilders)

Wednesday 10 PM EST / The E! True Hollywood Story: Female Body Builders - Siouxcountry.com

The E! Hollywood True Story: Female Bodybuilders

Women's Bodybuilding on an upcoming episode of HBO's Real Sports - Siouxcountry.com

HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumble: Female Bodybuilders

[Ibarramedia]

Some great posts by a competitor about MSNBC's Hooked: Muscle Women

I liked the documentary. K-Hawk and Collette Nelson were a good choice IMO. Both were pretty well spoken and openly discussed how they got in to bodybuilding. Fortunately, these two women shed some positive light on the sport. They both seem to be the opposite of the narcissistic, obsessive bodybuilder that the psychologist kept referring to. They provided a nice contrast to his seemingly narrow-minded views.

Yes, most of us do have a type A personality. I'm not sure one could be successful in this sport if they didn't. However, the psychologist made it seem as though a majority of FBB's had either low self esteem or psychological problems prior to bodybuilding.

The psychologist gave an example of a bodybuilder training through an injury (Collette's shoulder)and referred to it as a sign of obsessive behavior. Why is it that a football player who gets injured and insists on continuing to play is considered a hero and courageous??? Aren't these two the same thing!?

The problem I have is that the psychologist analyzing bodybuilding is neither an athlete nor does he seem to understand the sport of bodybuilding. Yes, he may study 'Muscle Dysmorphia', but he shouldn't generalize or imply that MANY bodybuilders have these problems. I'll be the first to admit that a select few do in fact have issues however, some of us just like going to the gym, having muscle and competing.

Another one by a competitor about The E! Hollywood True Story: Female Bodybuilders

The show was marginally fair. It did not profile any active fbbs, so the title of the show was very misleading. The most interesting people they should have profiled, only got little sound bites. The show would have been more interesting to profile Rebecca Swanson, whom they only gave a 10 second sound bite--what a complete waste! Or the Smith girl, (forgive me, her name is escaping me) and of course, no one can ever get enough of Colette Nelson, you can never go wrong with her! Here, they had the opportunity to profile real hardcore bodybuilders/athletes, and they just give them little blips. Colette is not only a sexy hardcore fbb, but she is no joke in the strength department, as she blew away the competition a few years ago at Raye Hollit's strength show in Cali. And Rebecca is using her powerlifting background to go into pro wrestling.

The most interesting, heart touching part was about Shelly Beattie, "Siren", of the old American Gladiator show. When I was an American Gladiator down in Florida, in 1997, I got to know her a bit, and she was truly a kindred spirit. I remember she was still married to John Romano back then, funny how they did not even mention that in the entire story. I was living over in Holland last year when she died, and Shannon Hall, "Dallas", called me and told me. She was perhaps one of the most gifted athletes I have ever known. I did not know she hung herself until earlier this year when someone posted the article on this forum, and they interviewed her friend, Cathy Sassin, about her depression throughout her life. I knew she suffered many problems and depression, yet she was so full of life and vigor, despite all of her problems.

The show primarily profiled WNBF figure girls (I did not even know of such a thing), and they interviewed the president of this organization who seemed all hell bent on administering "strict lie detector tests and urinalysis". What a joke. Both are beatable, and secondly, in the big picture, while I respect natural bodybuilders, these organizations act like they are better than the NPC/IFBB. Although they do not state it specifically, it is certainly implied. And, while the NPC and IFBB has done nothing to promote the consistency in judging (which would also take care of the women's "steroid problem") by choosing women that don't look like they have done a shitload of testosterone to place. The judges should have kept choosing girls like Nikki Fuller, Cory Everson, Shelly Beattie, and Lenda Murray. And of course, the mother of bodybuilding standards, Iris Kyle. These women possess an incredible level of aesthetic, beauty, symmetry, and yes, muscularity at the time of their finest hour on stage. If a woman looks like she could win a local level men's show, she should not be the winner. Ok, enough of the ranting about that.

The rest of the show was the typical Lauren Powers muscle worship sessions we have endured over and over again. Although she presents it quite tastefully, it's nothing novel. I refused the MSNBC show and the WE, Women's Entertainment, request to profile me on their shows a while back. I just think these shows always attempt to sensationalize women's bodybuilding and it always comes off as ridiculously stupid. I remember the executive producers calling me just before I left for Holland last year in a last ditch effort to get me on the show. I just see no value in exploiting the women that do this type of work, myself, nor the client. The people in this industry know very well how to find the women that session, and the "411". If anyone exploits me, it will be me, on my own terms, plain and simple.

So, all in all, it did not profile female bodybuilders as we know it, as the show claimed. Technically, yes, all of the women in this show meet the basic definition of being a "bodybuilder", but I wish they could have profiled more interesting female bodybuilders. However, the producers probably have a very difficult time finding fbb talent to interview for many fbbs fear exploitation.

I think the trailers were false advertising. A much softer, fluffier title would have been more appropriate, but not very compelling. But, I am sure the producers did their homework on the curb appeal of sensationalizing female bodybuilding in all shows to date, and thought it would be a good draw---sucker! >:( >:( http://www.unrealmuscle.com/forum/images/smilies/angry.gif LOL. Well, don't feel bad, I was one of them, too.

Cheers,
*****

This is from a thread about My Strange Addiction:

Guys, remember a few months ago when some guy from TLC was on here asking for a female to be in their new show? Well, I was offered and turned it down. ***** knows why, lol. The guy told me after a few talks that it was about strange addictions. Yeah, no thanks.

Well, guess who DID decide to be a part of this series? You'll have to watch the promo to find out...


Another comment:


I saw the previews for that show and was really shocked to see the female lifter clumped with toilet paper girl and detergernt eater...it's a shame that crazies like that crave the spotlight without consideration for others in the sport. It really shines a bad light on us when the general public already thinks we are crazy and don't get us. Really, I'm not sure how they could turn a normal fitness competitor like you kayde into a wierdo addict. Why isn't there a long distance runner or powerlifter or mma fighter on there...you can say the same about them.

Another competitor replied:

Agreed! I am so sick and tired of seeing documentaries on how bad it is to be a female bodybuilder! They act like we are abnormal! Eating laundry detergent, toilet paper, and sleeping with your blow dryer is far more whacked out than lifting and training to be strong and healthy. This country is definitely F**ed up with what is considered normal and abnormal! Someone needs to do a show on the positive side of female bodybuilding!

More:

Why is it bbing is an addiction or some form of mental illness but that isn't the case for ice skater, gymnasts, track athletes, ball players who all devote several hrs a day to their sport? or dancers or anything other hobby or sport?

I am so fucking tired of how fbbers are shown in the media

Fucking Lauren Powers is really not helping the image!!
and she barely competed at the local level

Why not show bbers who are parents, who work full time jobs etc


Curt, these are the voices of the competitors. Do you still think that all this has been good? Read what they have to say about thier displeasure. There were a couple of shows that I thought were good but turns out even they were negative and I did not realize it.

[Ibarramedia]

You might want to check out this thread:

FBB Documentaries and shows on TV - RX Muscle Forums

[Tre]

Why can't someone like Hayley McNeff be the face of FBB in the public eye. It would be seen totally differently..

Fast-forward to Hayley's arrival at 0:29 --

wj3dtfl-h0k


I'm sure that's true, too. Although I hate the term schmoe.

Why do you hate a word? It's just a collection of letters.

[hulk7510]

:erection::wanker:

[barbellman]

Fast-forward to Hayley's arrival at 0:29 --

wj3dtfl-h0k



Why do you hate a word? It's just a collection of letters.


whoaaaaaaa wtf is up with her voice? damn thats deep

[MeatHead4Life]

man, i really hope McNeff goes easy with da gear . . . She's super hott, but I would hate for her to get Lauren Powered if she's not careful.

[Curt James]

I never said I was criticizing Lauren Powers nor even hating on her. (snip)
I'm having a hard time explaining this to you because we seem to be misunderstanding each other or you just feel like debating and arguing for the sake of it. You know that I support the competitors, I don't need to remind you of that because you know how I feel.

The hate in general, Ibarramedia. Wasn't accusing you of wanting to destroy her or even disliking her. :beerbang:

She's a personality and has obviously pursued opportunities or created those opportunities.

[Curt James]

Why do you hate a word? It's just a collection of letters.

lol Really? Is that what a word is? ;)

The term "schmoe" is more often than not used as a pejorative. I don't see an interest in bodybuilding as something to be ridiculed.

Bodybuilding is a sport (or pageant :mad:
HATURZ) where fans can appreciate the physiques, learn about the athletes, and enjoy discussion and debate about the competitions.

Those who typically use the word "schmoe" are either a) joking good naturedly, b) trying to be insulting or c) the ever popular "Other".

I'm all about the lulz but believe the insults are unnecessary.

[Carolyn Bryant]

Yup, that's pretty sad when your mom looks younger than you. And here we are trying to promote health and wellness. And I ain't even gonna comment on dudes who bust a nutt being picked up by a girl. Oh wow, I just did.

[Curt James]

Yup, that's pretty sad when your mom looks younger than you. And here we are trying to promote health and wellness.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1nLdNGnrAes/TRzSuf1DPnI/AAAAAAAAB_Q/UGLo2qn-zu4/laurensmom.JPG

What would you attribute that to? I'm thinking UV exposure more than drugs. :dunno:


And I ain't even gonna comment on dudes who bust a nutt being picked up by a girl. Oh wow, I just did.

Although that's definitely not my thing, what's the difference between busting "a nutt being picked up by a girl" and busting that same nutt taking you by the hips and laying pipe? Let's keep our eye on the end result. :rolleyes:

As Dr. Ruuuuuuth might say, "Vhatever flllloatz your boat!"

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1nLdNGnrAes/TRzVEyDiP9I/AAAAAAAAB_Y/QGaVl5bQNwA/Westheimer-Ruth.jpg

[Ryan Wacht]

Same here. :)



Powers might seem delusional to many, but she's certainly no dummy. According to her Wiki page, she was her high school valedictorian and graduated from college with a business degree.

Her resume includes firefighter and ballroom dancer! Can you say diverse? I'm sure there are producers who see that and are intrigued.



Then Powers is doing other ladies a favor by figuratively jumping on those hand grenades of bad publicity. Still, I wonder what she was paid for that Gaga video. You think maybe twelve dollars? :rolleyes:



No surprise that TV producers are looking for goofy or bizarre things to put on their programs. Shock value sells, too.

Powers is obviously no wallflower. Surfer, firefighter, Harley owner, bodybuilder, dancer... she's out there pursuing opportunities that—as you stated—other women are not.

Where's the agency which promotes this female ideal that the majority of the population would find satisfactory? :dunno:



I'm sure that's true, too. Although I hate the term schmoe.

There are people who like muscle. And they are on a scale of intensity like fans of any sport or activity. I'm sure many here have that friend who has their van or car decked out in their favorite football team's colors as well as their house, sweatshirts, t-shirts, and other clothing and accessories all screaming football or NASCAR or whatever their particular interest happens to be. Extremists.



That's a neat quote, but it's not the most accurate, imo. I mean how many women out there have ever dieted down to see what's under all that?

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1nLdNGnrAes/TRuxv3rGmvI/AAAAAAAAB9c/F3-m9HB5AnA/example.jpg

Glass is right; they don't look like that by accident, but what would they look like if they took deliberate action including eating to get lean and lifting to build up? What would she look like after training?

Anyway, if Powers is the face of women's bodybuilding due to her media exposure and people don't like it, well, someone should work to offer an alternative, a different face or personality.

So when did you get permission to post a picture of my mom?!

[HammerStrength12]

lol Really? Is that what a word is? ;)

The term "schmoe" is more often than not used as a pejorative. I don't see an interest in bodybuilding as something to be ridiculed.

Bodybuilding is a sport (or pageant :mad:
HATURZ) where fans can appreciate the physiques, learn about the athletes, and enjoy discussion and debate about the competitions.

Those who typically use the word "schmoe" are either a) joking good naturedly, b) trying to be insulting or c) the ever popular "Other".

I'm all about the lulz but believe the insults are unnecessary.

Just because you are interested in bodybuilding doesn't mean you are a schmoe. A schmoe is someone who pays thousands of dollars to wrestle large women, lick their biceps, and jerk off with them in front of them. Anyone that degrades the women and the sport like that IMO deserves to be called whatever names there are.

[Tre]

lol Really? Is that what a word is? ;)

The term "schmoe" is more often than not used as a pejorative. I don't see an interest in bodybuilding as something to be ridiculed.

Bodybuilding is a sport (or pageant :mad:
HATURZ) where fans can appreciate the physiques, learn about the athletes, and enjoy discussion and debate about the competitions.

Those who typically use the word "schmoe" are either a) joking good naturedly, b) trying to be insulting or c) the ever popular "Other".

I'm all about the lulz but believe the insults are unnecessary.

Quit letting other people define your existence.

Be your own man - don't hate a word simply because YOU have given other people the power to define it in a negative light.

Doing that only makes you...well, a pussy. :p


Just because you are interested in bodybuilding doesn't mean you are a schmoe. A schmoe is someone who pays thousands of dollars to wrestle large women, lick their biceps, and jerk off with them in front of them. Anyone that degrades the women and the sport like that IMO deserves to be called whatever names there are.
^^A schmoe is also someone who takes the time to write 'definitions' like this...on a bodybuilding-related board. HTH

[Tre]

...

[Youngguns]

As a trainer, I hear the "I don't want to get big and bulky" all the time. I'm gonna borrow this one!

How does that line work? I'm a PT and a bodybuilder and I don't understand it myself...

[Tre]

As a trainer, I hear the "I don't want to get big and bulky" all the time. I'm gonna borrow this one!

When someone says that, tell them you'll put them on your special balance ball regimen that's *guaranteed* to prevent any semblance of bulking.

[Carolyn Bryant]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carolyn Bryant http://forums.rxmuscle.com/images/okay/buttons/viewpost.gif
And I ain't even gonna comment on dudes who bust a nutt being picked up by a girl. Oh wow, I just did.

Although that's definitely not my thing, what's the difference between busting "a nutt being picked up by a girl" and busting that same nutt taking you by the hips and laying pipe? Let's keep our eye on the end result. :rolleyes:

Difference is not the issue. Would they rather be up in some putang is. Truth, whatever floats your boat. Money floats mine.

[Hit-Girl]

^ Getting nice and ghetto up in here.

[Curt James]

Doing that only makes you...well, a pussy. :p

Honestly, I'm no fan of using "pussy" as a pejorative either.

And, Tre, do you own a lot of self-help books?

[Tre]

Honestly, I'm no fan of using "pussy" as a pejorative either.

And, Tre, do you own a lot of self-help books?
lol @ not a fan

Self-help books? Although they come in a variety of flavors to suit almost anyone's level of low self-esteem, the answer is 'no'. The problem clearly is not me.

I own my own shit. That is, I completely own anything and everything I do or say. No matter how many buttons they may have pushed, no one ever forced me to react with hostility or vulgarities. Those were my choices and I didn't care whether my positions were being dismissed by idiots. I make all the decisions in my world, which includes how I will react to the choices made by others who interact with my world.

I have no opposition to the concept of cooperation. I am, however, generally opposed to groupthink or those actions which lend themselves to a mob mentality.

Through this dialogue between us, without ever having met one another, I've been able to formulate an opinion about a behavior of yours I disagree with. Not that it's your goal to do so, but you'd have a difficult time convincing me that you independently concluded - without any influence whatsoever from sources outside yourself - that the term 'schmoe' was somehow a pejorative as opposed to being a veritable badge of honor.

It's certainly your right to reach that conclusion, however it may have come to you. It is NOT, however, your right to determine how anyone else will use or receive the term.

While we can certainly agree to disagree over use of the word, you don't have the absolute authority to establish the definition for me, nor I for you.