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Good Grip
01-03-2011, 01:51 AM
MAP from Primordial Performance vs. HUMAPRO from ALRI

Wich one is better, or is one better suited for certain times versus being good at anytime? Ive gone through more than 5 bottles of Humapro and can say that it does work pretty good. Right now im using Humapro and Ultimate Muscle Protein from Beverly nutrition and seeing good results. Im thinking of either adding MAP or replacing Humapro with it and see how it goes.

hatefulONE
01-03-2011, 11:46 AM
I use a scoop of map and 3 scoops ibcaa's post workout with some gatorade powder and waxy maize, then about 30 minutes later I do a whey shake with some complex carbs, seems to do the trick for me, very little doms and recovery is great. Never tried humapro so I can't compare.

beezy13
01-03-2011, 01:46 PM
never tried map so I can't say but it'd be hard to believe it could taste better than HP. So even if they were exactly the same I'd pick HP just on taste. My results with HP have been amazing so I doubt I'll be switching anytime soon.

NYJetsFan80
01-03-2011, 02:58 PM
never tried map so I can't say but it'd be hard to believe it could taste better than HP. So even if they were exactly the same I'd pick HP just on taste. My results with HP have been amazing so I doubt I'll be switching anytime soon.
Same here beezy!:yep:Get the apple cider flavor its the best and absolutely delicious!:drool::drool::drool:

Jason Newman
01-03-2011, 03:18 PM
MAP for my pre-workout does me nice!

but ive never tried the humapro....

Shariff Abel
01-03-2011, 03:33 PM
I like to stick with Humapro i love Author products.
Humapro All the way and ALRI Industry is top trusted very amazing product ! i love it and i will always stick with it.

Wrex
01-03-2011, 03:40 PM
I was a humapro doubter in the beginning, but now I use both the powder and the pills... Strength and weight has gone up since I switched whey for humapro.

AVBG
01-03-2011, 05:08 PM
If humapro is working for ya, then why switch it? for some people it takes years to get on something that is so effective..I wouldnt mess around with something thats getting the job done.

Good Grip
01-03-2011, 06:33 PM
If humapro is working for ya, then why switch it? for some people it takes years to get on something that is so effective..I wouldnt mess around with something thats getting the job done.

I just remember when Humapro was released and people were comparing it to MAP and I was like, "whats map?" and is "this the stuff primordial makes?" I never got an answer, so I started using humapro (tablet form) and it was different to use, but it worked good.

As far as changing what worked for me, well Progenex was working absolutely great and then they dramatically changed the formula. No way im goin to buy the new stuff. I started buying primordial's stuff in december of 2009 and really like their products, so im just curious to see if it works. Plus its on sale right now.

Im goin to buy a tub of the map and report back you guys after a month to see how different they are.

Gerb
01-03-2011, 06:43 PM
Humapro and Chain'd Out is all you need IMO.

I am also a big fan of Beverly Intl. products so UMP is a great whey IMO. However, just curious why you are using whey and humapro as humapro is the ideal whey replacement. I have completely dropped all whey and eat 6 solid protein meals plus 2 humapro meals. I don't think I can ever go back to whey. ... but I do miss chocolate shakes!!!! so I guess I can understand why people might still keep some in the diet.

ryansm
01-04-2011, 08:48 PM
I have been interested in trying out Humapro, right now I use MAP spread out over the day in several servings, and have had better results than using BCAA's. From what I understand Humapro can be used the same way?

Good Grip
01-05-2011, 02:42 AM
Humapro and Chain'd Out is all you need IMO.

I am also a big fan of Beverly Intl. products so UMP is a great whey IMO. However, just curious why you are using whey and humapro as humapro is the ideal whey replacement. I have completely dropped all whey and eat 6 solid protein meals plus 2 humapro meals. I don't think I can ever go back to whey. ... but I do miss chocolate shakes!!!! so I guess I can understand why people might still keep some in the diet.

Ill usually start my day with humapro (6 to 8 tablets), some times ill have an actual protein shake (1 scoop of muscle provider and 1 scoop of ump). Ill then do morning calistenics and prepare breakfast wich is 5 whole eggs. It just depends on my situation and how I feel. If im hungrier ill opt for the shake. If im not, ill start my day with humapro.

Sometimes it just boils down to time. You want those extra 5-10 minutes of sleep and it compresses your morning, so its nice to have options. Also, Humapro does not suppress hunger as well as a protein shake.

HammerStrength12
01-06-2011, 02:08 PM
The only major difference I can see between Primordial's product and ALR's is the B vitamins. MAP seems to contain all the same aminos and more.

The Big Sexy
01-06-2011, 02:12 PM
The only major difference I can see between Primordial's product and ALR's is the B vitamins. MAP seems to contain all the same aminos and more.

I'm not the guy to break this down - but there is a process that ALR uses for Humapro that effect the delivery of the EAA's. I can put it in laymen's terms - but not the science talk. I think that is another difference.

HammerStrength12
01-06-2011, 02:18 PM
I'm not the guy to break this down - but there is a process that ALR uses for Humapro that effect the delivery of the EAA's. I can put it in laymen's terms - but not the science talk. I think that is another difference.

And I'm sure Eric has done the same w/ his product.

The formulation is almost identical. If you want to use ALR science as a reason why your product is better, that's fine, but Eric should also be allowed to use PP science - which I'm sure he has as well.

At the end of the day they're both good products and you can't go wrong with either IMO. I'm just not seeing the evidence that 1 is vastly superior to the other.

The Big Sexy
01-06-2011, 02:30 PM
And I'm sure Eric has done the same w/ his product.

The formulation is almost identical. If you want to use ALR science as a reason why your product is better, that's fine, but Eric should also be allowed to use PP science - which I'm sure he has as well.

At the end of the day they're both good products and you can't go wrong with either IMO. I'm just not seeing the evidence that 1 is vastly superior to the other.

Are we talking about PP's Maximum Absorbed Protein? If so, I can point out a more than a few differences in the product.

adpolice
01-06-2011, 02:38 PM
What is the difference between humapro and an EAA supplement like animal nitro which has been around for many years?And since MAP is a complete protein that will break down into amino acids after digestion why is the one product better than the other?:dunno:

The Big Sexy
01-06-2011, 02:44 PM
What is the difference between humapro and an EAA supplement like animal nitro which has been around for many years?And since MAP is a complete protein that will break down into amino acids after digestion why is the one product better than the other?:dunno:

Well, that's part of the big difference between MAP and Humapro - MAP appears to be predigested casein protein - whereas Humapro is not. Humapro is not from cow milk - Casein is.

As far as Animal Nitro - One of the big deals with Humapro is the delivery system. The way Author formulates it all of the EAA's arrive at the same time. By taking them separate or not having them arrive at the muscle at the same time - can cause waste and non-utilization of the various amino acids.

Again, I'm not a science guy - I'm an athlete - but this is my understanding of the product. I'm sure ALR mentions this on his Humapro Q/A somewhere.

adpolice
01-06-2011, 02:51 PM
Well, that's part of the big difference between MAP and Humapro - MAP appears to be predigested casein protein - whereas Humapro is not. Humapro is not from cow milk - Casein is.

As far as Animal Nitro - One of the big deals with Humapro is the delivery system. The way Author formulates it all of the EAA's arrive at the same time. By taking them separate or not having them arrive at the muscle at the same time - can cause waste and non-utilization of the various amino acids.

Again, I'm not a science guy - I'm an athlete - but this is my understanding of the product. I'm sure ALR mentions this on his Humapro Q/A somewhere.

Thanks!I am usually very suspicious when it comes to supplements since i've been ripped off many times.Humapro receives great reviews from customers so i'll give it a try;)

ryansm
01-06-2011, 09:41 PM
MAP is a very solid product, I'm sure Humapro is as well, regardless they are both very effective.

HammerStrength12
01-06-2011, 10:43 PM
Thanks!I am usually very suspicious when it comes to supplements since i've been ripped off many times.Humapro receives great reviews from customers so i'll give it a try;)

Go with MAP. I need Primordial to stay in business so that the Andro Series can come out.

Good Grip
01-07-2011, 03:40 AM
Ive actually used Univeral Nutrition's Animal Nitro several times, good product. Id take it befor and after a workout and eat a snickers bar for an insulin spike. The only 2 things Humapro doesnt have goin for it is you cant take it with meals that contain protein, and it doesnt suppress hunger like a protein shake. Ive got 3 tubs of Map coming so ill make the comparison soon.

Lately ive been taking mass tabs before meals and density after to get a good amount of amino acids in the body. Both are from Beverly Intl. great products and they sponsor my brother. But to make a good comparison ill use MAP solo for 1 month and gauge progress, gains, recovery etc..

shredstack
01-07-2011, 04:27 AM
Ive actually used Univeral Nutrition's Animal Nitro several times, good product. Id take it befor and after a workout and eat a snickers bar for an insulin spike. The only 2 things Humapro doesnt have goin for it is you cant take it with meals that contain protein, and it doesnt suppress hunger like a protein shake. Ive got 3 tubs of Map coming so ill make the comparison soon.

Lately ive been taking mass tabs before meals and density after to get a good amount of amino acids in the body. Both are from Beverly Intl. great products and they sponsor my brother. But to make a good comparison ill use MAP solo for 1 month and gauge progress, gains, recovery etc..

I have no vested interest in either company but I can tell you that 1 month is not long enough to see if the product is working. 1 month is about the time it takes Test E to start exerting it's effects lol.

The Big Sexy
01-07-2011, 08:52 AM
Thanks!I am usually very suspicious when it comes to supplements since i've been ripped off many times.Humapro receives great reviews from customers so i'll give it a try;)

Good deal man. You won't be disappointed... best product I've used.

Good Grip
01-07-2011, 12:23 PM
I have no vested interest in either company but I can tell you that 1 month is not long enough to see if the product is working. 1 month is about the time it takes Test E to start exerting it's effects lol.

I ordered 3 tubs of map from their recent sale, so if it doesnt last me more than a month ill buy more. Im curious though, because humapro did come out in a powder version. That means im also goin to have to try the powdered version at some point and compare taste.

ryansm
01-07-2011, 02:34 PM
Ive actually used Univeral Nutrition's Animal Nitro several times, good product. Id take it befor and after a workout and eat a snickers bar for an insulin spike. The only 2 things Humapro doesnt have goin for it is you cant take it with meals that contain protein, and it doesnt suppress hunger like a protein shake. Ive got 3 tubs of Map coming so ill make the comparison soon.

Lately ive been taking mass tabs before meals and density after to get a good amount of amino acids in the body. Both are from Beverly Intl. great products and they sponsor my brother. But to make a good comparison ill use MAP solo for 1 month and gauge progress, gains, recovery etc..

I have actually used Beverly International liver tabs in the past spread out through the day, about 50 a day and loved it. I have been using MAP in a similar way, and have experienced the same with a slight leaning out effect and no change to my diet other than the MAP.

Good Grip
03-06-2011, 08:38 PM
So in the main theads on this site, "the 5 top proteins" became a Humapro thread. Now that ive used both MAP and Humapro ive become a MAP believer ( yes even though I became a rep in the end of January 2011 ) after goin through my 3 tubs of it. Humapro is good also and I had used it succesfully last year. But Auther has not addressed the question of PeptoPro compared to Humapro, how do they stack against each other?

Costco77
03-07-2011, 06:06 AM
The only major difference I can see between Primordial's product and ALR's is the B vitamins. MAP seems to contain all the same aminos and more.

http://masteraminoacidpattern.com/

http://www.drcolbert.com/images/products/MAP-MasterAminoAcid.jpg

This is the MAP they're talking about Hammer, not the Primordial Performance "Maximum Absorbed Protein."

adpolice
03-07-2011, 06:23 AM
This is the same product also88907

Costco77
03-07-2011, 07:10 AM
^Correct, so are all these....http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/amino.html

Costco77
03-07-2011, 08:06 AM
Amino Acid Supplements < Intact (whole) Proteins

HammerStrength12
03-07-2011, 02:51 PM
I lmao at "map vs steroids"

http://masteraminoacidpattern.com/compare_ster/index.php

I guess aminos are better than test and tren for muscle density and strength :)

beezy13
03-07-2011, 02:58 PM
I lmao at "map vs steroids"

http://masteraminoacidpattern.com/compare_ster/index.php

I guess aminos are better than test and tren for muscle density and strength :)


They really have a chart comparing the 2.. how are these even remotely comparable? I don't know that I've seen anything like that before.

HammerStrength12
03-07-2011, 03:11 PM
^^

They're both equally effective too!

beezy13
03-07-2011, 05:35 PM
That is a probelm right there. No wonder the Govt is looking into the supps industry, and wants to run/regulate it. Why can't we just be honest...Supps are good, people Should use them BUT Steroids are the real deal. Steroids are serious business not to be taken lightly but if used correctly they are effective, safe and are what actually give people the results they see in magazines.

Costco77
03-07-2011, 07:20 PM
I lmao at "map vs steroids"

http://masteraminoacidpattern.com/compare_ster/index.php

I guess aminos are better than test and tren for muscle density and strength :)

Notice the NNU and other claims from this site HammerStrength....eerily similar

Good Grip
03-09-2011, 04:48 AM
Just to be clear, im talking about MAP from Primordial Performance.