my journey to 240

[MadHatter67]

im starting my next cycle in 2 weeks, wanted to go ahead and start this log a little early so i can get some feedback from what im doing before i start the compounds.

it will be a 10 week bulk
weeks 1-10: 100 mgs/test prop mon, wed, fri
400 mgs/week test e/c blend (total weekly dose 700 mgs)
50 mgs/ed anadrol preworkout
12.5 mgs/ed aromasin, if gyno flares up will bump to 25 mgs/ed

pct:
12.5-25 mgs/ed aromasin
clomid will start 2 weeks after last inj, will run 4 weeks 100,100,100,50.
hcg if i can get it at 2500 iu's 2x per week.

a little about myself:
been training for about 11 years, started using gear 2 years ago. i have about 5 cycles under my belt using test e,c,p, sust, tren, dbol, and deca. this will be my first run with anadrol, so im pretty excited to see what it does for me.

stats:
will be 26 yrs old, 6'1'' currently 215 about 12% bf. arms are 17'', quads 25'', waist just under 35'', chest is 47'', around shoulders is 52''.

support supps:
2400 mgs red yeast rice split in 2 doses
1300 mgs omega 3's with breakfast
low dose asprin

goals:
reach 240 lbs and stay around 12% bf. i will be happy to hit 230-235, but i want to push it and say 240. my last cycle i gained 28 lbs in 11 weeks, and only lost 3-5 lbs when i came off...not too bad.

training:
mon: chest
tues: back
weds: shoulders
thurs: arms
fri: legs
sat-sun: off

i only hit one body part per day, with arms and legs being the exception. i use the HIT style of training, heavy weight, low reps. 12-15 working sets per muscle group. once i start this cycle i may start using more high volume, but for now this is what i use.

[MadHatter67]

forgot my diet, it will look something like this:

meal 1: weight gainer
meal 2: 4 whole eggs, 2 egg whites, 2 sl bacon, 1 bagel with jelly, 2 pcks of oatmeal if still hungry
meal 3: 10 oz chicken breast, sweet potato with butter, fiber 1 bar
meal 4: 10 oz chicken breast, 1 cup rice
meal 5 (post workout): 2 scoops whey
meal 6: 1/2 lb ground beef or bison, baked potato with cheese and butter
meal 7: whatever the wife makes for dinner
i eat peanut butter thruout the day as a snack.

if my calculations are correct this diet puts me at around 4500-5000 cals per day. i get up pretty early and am up late at night so i have time to eat all that and i dont really have to force food down.

all right gents, there it is. feel free to critique or point me in the right direction if something is flawed.

[MadHatter67]

one more thing...cardio will be done 3x per week, walking on tredmill with slight incline. i also have a 2 year old great dane that i have to walk on the mornings that im home, and if anyone has ever walked one of those dogs you will know how much work that shit is. so really i guess i will be getting some type of cardio everyday.

[joe-ali]

Hey brother. Everything looks good except ur goal. Sounds to me like u and I have same bodytype, full ecto morph. I want to be honest and say with measurements like that u are around 15percent or more. Us ectomorphs look much leaner while holding higher bfpercentages bro.

If I can give u a piece of advice, don't go by the scale. Make ur goal to add an inch or more to ur arms, maybe 2inch to ur legs while getting ur waist down to 33 or less.

I made the same mistake this last summer and made a goal to get to 260, and I got to 258, but my arms went from 19- to 19.5 yet I gained like 25lbs. Although I still had a 6pack I lost most of that when I dieted down. So I realized I gained mostly water and fat.

Lastly if your going to train hit style make sure u have a training partner who knows it well. The biggest mistake I see is people who say they train hit alone or just use a spotter. That isn't hit brother that is just making your training faster.

I hope you not think I am attacking you brother, I just see that we are similar in bodytype and training style. Just side note, once I focused on growing muscle not weight I am off cycle for 8weeks yet my arms are a much leaner 19.5 while my waist is under 32. Good luck hatter!

[MadHatter67]

no offense taken joe-ali. you make a good point about gaining the weight but not seeing the measurements go up. i do plan on taking measurements every couple weeks to keep track of whats going on. thanks for the reply! reps.

[joe-ali]

Thanks brother, keep posting everything. You should get some great gains. Your time to get big! I can't wait to start again myself!! Hahha

[Shadow]

forgot my diet, it will look something like this:

meal 1: weight gainer
meal 2: 4 whole eggs, 2 egg whites, 2 sl bacon, 1 bagel with jelly, 2 pcks of oatmeal if still hungry
meal 3: 10 oz chicken breast, sweet potato with butter, fiber 1 bar
meal 4: 10 oz chicken breast, 1 cup rice
meal 5 (post workout): 2 scoops whey
meal 6: 1/2 lb ground beef or bison, baked potato with cheese and butter
meal 7: whatever the wife makes for dinner
i eat peanut butter thruout the day as a snack.

if my calculations are correct this diet puts me at around 4500-5000 cals per day. i get up pretty early and am up late at night so i have time to eat all that and i dont really have to force food down.

I would change this around a bit. Have the two packs of oatmeal instead of the bagel with jelly. Throw some fruit in if you like.

If you MUST have bacon, try turkey bacon. Personally I'd opt for some steak or ground beef.

Butter? I'd avoid it. Or use VERY sparingly. Easy way to do sweet potatoes: peel, cut into cubes, toss in olive oil, sprinkle on cinnamon, bake for an hour on 350. You can also do basil, salt, and pepper instead of the cinnamon.

Easy on the cheese.

Add olive oil to whatever you can stomach. Easiest is shakes. It's an effective way to add good calories.

You want good gains, not fat. Even on gear, diet comes first. It's a supplement to a good diet. Keep it mostly clean, just eat MORE. If you're still hungry, eat more of what you just ate. I would also toss a chest meal in after leg and back days, maybe one on the weekend too.

[MadHatter67]

thanks shadow, i will take what you suggest into concideration. whenever i can afford steak or we have some leftover ground beef i do use that with my breakfast instead of the bacon. the sweet potato idea sounds great, i will give that a try. ive just been microwaving mine lately and its pretty nasty...hince the butter. and i will also add some fruit into my breakfast...good point on that. i do have a cheat meal/day on the weekends, and i always make sure to have a good solid meal after slaying my legs or back. thanks again, and reps.

[MadHatter67]

im gunna post up my workouts also so you guys can see where my strength is at now, and hopefully where it goes. also it will help to get some feed back if you guys think im not where i should be.

here was todays workout
chest:
hammer strength wide chest: 2 plates per side x 12 (2 sets here for warm up)
3 plates x 10
3 plus 25 x 8
4 plates x 6
incline bench: 135 x 12 (warm up)
185 x 10 (warm up)
225 x 8
275 x 6
295 x 4
flat dumbell: 80 x 12
90 x 10
100 x 6
110 x 6
incline cable flyes: 110 x 12
125 x 10
125 x 10

also weighed in this morning and was 217.

[Shadow]

Damn, that's pretty strong.

[MadHatter67]

thanks shadow, i try to give it hell.

[MadHatter67]

todays workout.

back:
wide grip pull ups: 3 sets of 10

under hand barbell rows:
135 x 12 (warm up)
185 x 10
225 x 8
245 x 6
275 x 6

seated cable rows
110 x 12 (warm up)
180 x 10
200 x 8
220 x 6 drop set to 170 x 12

wide grip pull downs:
(i do these facing away from the machine so my knees arent under the pads. i feel that i get a better contraction and it makes the movement a little more difficult)
130 x 12
160 x 10
160 x 10

back extensions:
3 sets of 12 (holding a 25lb plate)

[MadHatter67]

arms today...i usually dont use this much volume, but i got a great pump from the start and just wanted to keep going.

rope press down
80 x 3 sets of 20 to warm up the elbows

striaght bar curls
95 x 12 (warm up, 2 sets)
115 x 10
135 x 8, 6, 6

JM press (this move is relatively new to me)
135 x 6
155 x 6, 6

incline cable curls
110 x 10
125 x 10, 8

skull crushes
95 x 12
115 x 10, 8, 6

reverse grip ez bar curl
95 x 10, 2 sets

1 arm reverse grip cable extensions
50 x 12
60 x 10
70 x 10

preacher curls
125 x 12, 10

rope press downs
110 x 12
120 x 12

[MadHatter67]

alright, starting the cycle early...i have my own reasons, its not important enough to write...anyways,

50 mgs drol
200 mgs test e/c blend
100 mgs test prop

inj site: right glute
inj was pain free, will see how it feels tomorrow.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift

legs (50 mgs drol taken about 15 minutes prior.)

squats
135 x 10, 8 (2 warm up sets)
225 x 6
315 x 8
405 x 4 drop to 225 x 8

stiff leg deads
135 x 10 (warm up)
185 x 8
225 x 8 (2 sets)

leg press
445 x 12
535 x 10
625 x 8
715 x 6

lying leg curls
115 x 12 (3 sets)

extensions
110-125 x 3 sets of 30 (10 reps toe outward, 10 neutal, 10 in)

seated calf
3 sets with 45 plus 10. 15-20 reps.

my right glute was a little tender today from the inj last night, which made squatting a little uncomfortable. i dont think the tenderness is due to either esters im using, probably just because its been a while since i injected there. also, im not sure how long it takes to start feeling the effects of drol, but my legs got pumped way faster than usual today, and i was able to handle heavier weights thru the whole workout even tho we shortened rest times.

[MadHatter67]

shoulders today

shrugs:
135 x 15
225 x 12
315 x 12
365 x 12
365 x 10
shrugs from behind-225 x 12 2 sets

side dumbell raises
25 x 12
30 x 12
35 x 10
35 x 10 drop to 25 x 8

seated military press
135 x 12, 10
185 x 8
225 x 6
245 x 6

rear pec-deck
70 x 15
80 x 15
90 x 15

cable side raises
30 x 12
40 x 10
40 x 8

injected 200 mgs test e,c blend, 100 mgs prop into left glute about 30 minutes preworkout, also took 50 mgs anadrol at the same time.

im really trying to bring up my side delts since im a taller guy to help acheive that x frame. i think its important to share this: i had shoulder surgery 2 years ago to fix a broken clavicle, now i have a bone graft, plates, and screws in my right shoulder area, so i cant make huge jumps in weight, i have to slowly pyramid up to my working sets.

[vicmartinez]

Good Log, Hope you get to reach your goal.

[MadHatter67]

thanks vic.

[MadHatter67]

UPDATE:
took my BP 3 times yesterday 2 of those times it was 150/85...so as you can see its a little elevated. im using 4 red yeast rice extract per day, also taking an asprin with the drol and having to take an aleve around 8 p.m. because the headache starts creeping back up. my appetite is also a little supressed. i feel like i have to force myself to start eating, but im still able to house down some food...i thought that is kinda weird. if anyone has any advice on how to combat these sides of drol please let me know, this is my first time using the stuff. i have access to HCTZ, i know that will help with the HBP but i dont want to use it unless i absolutely have to.

[joe d]

UPDATE:
took my BP 3 times yesterday 2 of those times it was 150/85...so as you can see its a little elevated. im using 4 red yeast rice extract per day, also taking an asprin with the drol and having to take an aleve around 8 p.m. because the headache starts creeping back up. my appetite is also a little supressed. i feel like i have to force myself to start eating, but im still able to house down some food...i thought that is kinda weird. if anyone has any advice on how to combat these sides of drol please let me know, this is my first time using the stuff. i have access to HCTZ, i know that will help with the HBP but i dont want to use it unless i absolutely have to.

just stop taking it. think realistically about what your doing to your body right now. your body cant handle what your putting into it.

[Shadow]

UPDATE:
took my BP 3 times yesterday 2 of those times it was 150/85...so as you can see its a little elevated. im using 4 red yeast rice extract per day, also taking an asprin with the drol and having to take an aleve around 8 p.m. because the headache starts creeping back up. my appetite is also a little supressed. i feel like i have to force myself to start eating, but im still able to house down some food...i thought that is kinda weird. if anyone has any advice on how to combat these sides of drol please let me know, this is my first time using the stuff. i have access to HCTZ, i know that will help with the HBP but i dont want to use it unless i absolutely have to.

I think I read that you take all 50 right before working out. Try splitting the dose. If that doesn't help, do like joe d said, and stop taking it.

[MadHatter67]

thanks for the input guys, i will try what shadow said for a couple days to see if it helps at all, and if its not made a difference then i will just stop using it. it sucks because im not even a week into using the stuff....just another learning experience i guess.

[Shadow]

thanks for the input guys, i will try what shadow said for a couple days to see if it helps at all, and if its not made a difference then i will just stop using it. it sucks because im not even a week into using the stuff....just another learning experience i guess.

You've gotta try stuff to know if you're gonna like it. Might turn out a-bombs aren't for you. I'd do 25 in the morning with breakfast, and then the other 25 right before working out (unless these two are close together).

[MadHatter67]

i was kinda late with breakfast this morning so i will just take a half dose before workout. i normally have breakfast at about 6 a.m. lifts go between 1:00 and 5:00, that seems like it should be enough time. like i said, im not above dropping them from the cycle, but if there is a way to get around the sides then i will try that first, so again, thanks for the advice.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift
chest

incline barbell
135 x 12 (2 sets for warm up)
185 x 10
225 x 8
275 x 6
315 x 4
335 x 2 (NEW PR!!)

pec deck
120 x 12
140 x 12
150 x 10

flat barbell
225 x 8
275 x 5 (3 sets)

seated calves
3 sets of 20

standing calves
3 sets of 20

seated incline calf
2 sets of 15

volume was kept pretty low today, no reason inparticular. took 25 mgs anadrol preworkout, i didnt notice any hbp sides while i was lifting, which i was concerned about...i think the real test for that will be tomorrow for back, and again on leg day. tonight i pin 200 mgs test e/c blend, 100 mgs test prop in right delt, this will be my 3rd shot. my right glute (where the first inj was) has finally stopped hurting....4 days of pain isnt too bad. the left glute didnt hurt but maybe one day. since i stared this cycle on a wednesday i will try to post up a weekly report of my weight and all my measurements every weds.

[MadHatter67]

update:
anadrol has been dropped from the cycle. after having a headache for the past 2 days, despite cutting the dose in half i decided to cut the drol, so the cycle is now just 700 mgs/week of test. took today off from the gym, plan on hitting back tomorrow.

[Shadow]

Well, that sucks bro. Now you know drol's not for you! Good luck with the rest of the cycle.

[MadHatter67]

i was at work yesterday and wasnt able to post up yesterdays lift so here it is.
legs:
squats
135 x 10 (2 sets for warm up)
225 x 8
315 x 8
365 x 6
405 x 5

stiff leg deads standing on a bench
135 x 12
185 x 10
225 x 5 (2 sets)

leg press
4 sets 10-12 reps, weights went 4 plates per side, then 5, 6, and 7 for the final set

lying leg curl super set with seated leg curl
115 x 8 (lying) then 100 x 10-12 (seated)

extensions
100 x 20 (2 sets)

[MadHatter67]

todays lift
arms
straight bar curls
95 x 12 (2 sets warm up)
115 x 8
135 x 6 (2 sets)

close grip bench
135 x 12
225 x 10
275 x 6
275 x 4 drop to 185 x 10

preacher curls
85 x 10
105 x 10
105 x 8

skull crush
95 x 12
115 x 10
115 x 8

hammers dumbells
55 x 10 (3 sets)

rope press down
110 x 12
120 x 12
120 x 10

[MadHatter67]

start point after week 1 arms17 arms17 1/8chest49 chest49around shoulders52 around shoulders53calves16 calves16quads25 quads25 3/4waist35 waist35 weight217 weight 221


im posting my measurements from week to week in order to keep track of my gains. i realize that some of my gains this week is water from the drol, hopefully next weeks measurements will see some gain also.

since quitting the drol i feel 100x better...no headaches, appetite is raging again...drol is just not for me.

[MadHatter67]

starting point
arms: 17
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist:35
quads: 25
calves: 16
weight: 217

end of week 1
arms: 17 1/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 53
waist: 35
quads: 25 3/4
calves: 16
weight: 221

i realize that some of that quad size is from where they are still pumped from yesterday. but the shoulder and arm measurement is without a pump.

[Shadow]

Solid gains for the first week. Good job.

[IAMLEGEND]

You should have tried Hawthorne Berries for the elevated BP, they always do the trick of reducing my BP.

[MadHatter67]

if i decide to try my luck with it again then i will use the hawthorne berry extract, thanks for the advice. i was using red yeast rice extract and asprin, but that didnt help at all.

update: felt a little itch in my nips today, have been running aromasin at 12.5 mgs/ed, if gyno flares up as im sure it will, i will bump the dose to 25 mgs/ed. my right delt is red and splotchy from mondays inj...nothing to be alarmed at, my right delt has always done that from the very first cycle i did. the shots i do with the test e/c blend along with the prop actually hurt worse than just the prop shots...i think that this is due to the concentration of the blend.

shot 100 mgs prop and 200 mgs test e/c blend in left glute tonight. bled a little more than normal but other than that everything was smooth.

i missed back and shoulders this week due to my "bosses" and them fucking with my work schedule. i will make up for it next week tho.

[MadHatter67]

forgot to add that i took my BP 2 days after dropping the drol and it dropped to 135/75. still a little high but nothing compared to the 150/85 that it was while using the drol.

[crashcrew56]

if i decide to try my luck with it again then i will use the hawthorne berry extract, thanks for the advice. i was using red yeast rice extract and asprin, but that didnt help at all.

update: felt a little itch in my nips today, have been running aromasin at 12.5 mgs/ed, if gyno flares up as im sure it will, i will bump the dose to 25 mgs/ed. my right delt is red and splotchy from mondays inj...nothing to be alarmed at, my right delt has always done that from the very first cycle i did. the shots i do with the test e/c blend along with the prop actually hurt worse than just the prop shots...i think that this is due to the concentration of the blend.

shot 100 mgs prop and 200 mgs test e/c blend in left glute tonight. bled a little more than normal but other than that everything was smooth.

i missed back and shoulders this week due to my "bosses" and them fucking with my work schedule. i will make up for it next week tho.

By "bosses" do you mean assholes that stay around long enough to finally be put incharge of people, yet did jack shit to earn it?


forgot to add that i took my BP 2 days after dropping the drol and it dropped to 135/75. still a little high but nothing compared to the 150/85 that it was while using the drol.

interval cardio...

[MadHatter67]

By "bosses" do you mean assholes that stay around long enough to finally be put incharge of people, yet did jack shit to earn it?



interval cardio...

yes, that is exactly what i mean. what is it with u and this interval cardio??? hahaha

[retwa]

Why are you only shooting the prop M,W,F? Would be better to just go EOD at least...then you'd effectively be at a stable 750mg/wk, instead of having levels drop off over the weekend.

[HammerStrength12]

just stop taking it. think realistically about what your doing to your body right now. your body cant handle what your putting into it.

Have to agree with joe. Ignoring vitals like that would be foolish.

edit: didnt see that you dropped it, smart move! You could always try tbol, dbol or var.

[MadHatter67]

Why are you only shooting the prop M,W,F? Would be better to just go EOD at least...then you'd effectively be at a stable 750mg/wk, instead of having levels drop off over the weekend.

im also running a test e/c blend at 400 mgs/week, 200 mgs on monday and 200 mgs on friday, along with the 100 mgs of prop m,w,f. so its a total of 700 mgs/week of test. i feel pretty stable so far, granted its only a little over one week into the cycle...no gyno...yet, no acne, no mood swings. thanks for checking out my log tho.


Have to agree with joe. Ignoring vitals like that would be foolish.

edit: didnt see that you dropped it, smart move! You could always try tbol, dbol or var.

i think i will throw in some super dmz for the last 4 weeks of the cycle just for shits and gigs. thanks for the input hammer.

[joe d]

bp still high means you need to do more. cardio, water, low salt foods, celery, low dose asprin, etc. hawthorn? berry works but takes a while to start. next cycle start it a couple weeks before your cycle.

whats your bf% and how much cardio are you doing?

pin prop ed for best results or eod minimum.

[MadHatter67]

i havent clipped for body fat, but if i had to guess id say between 12-15% im doing cardio about 3x per week. i dont want to take supps, or herbal stuff to help the HBP, i would rather see if doing cardio alone will help. i will take BP again tomorrow and see where im at. i would love to be able to pin prop ed or any other compound for that matter, but im at work between 24 and 48 hours at a time so pinning ed isnt an option for me at the moment.

[crashcrew56]

bp still high means you need to do more. cardio, water, low salt foods, celery, low dose asprin, etc. hawthorn? berry works but takes a while to start. next cycle start it a couple weeks before your cycle.

whats your bf% and how much cardio are you doing?

pin prop ed for best results or eod minimum.


i havent clipped for body fat, but if i had to guess id say between 12-15% im doing cardio about 3x per week. i dont want to take supps, or herbal stuff to help the HBP, i would rather see if doing cardio alone will help. i will take BP again tomorrow and see where im at. i would love to be able to pin prop ed or any other compound for that matter, but im at work between 24 and 48 hours at a time so pinning ed isnt an option for me at the moment.


I think you should try doing some cardio that's going to get your HR a little higher, I don't think the low intensity cardio is doing anything for you, and drop the salt.

[MadHatter67]

here is a back shot my wife took to show my sun burn but i actually thought my back looks really good so i wanted to share it. i wasnt gunna post up any pics, but fuck it...if you know who i am, just keep it to yourself.

[MadHatter67]

I think you should try doing some cardio that's going to get your HR a little higher, I don't think the low intensity cardio is doing anything for you, and drop the salt.

fine, fine...i will try it your way. i dont eat alot of salty food really. just cheese and butter once a day...and peanut butter, but ive cut back on that.

[MadHatter67]

camera died...will post more pics sometime later.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift
back
wide grip chins
bodyweight x 10 (2 sets)
bodyweight + 25 x 6 (2 sets)

db row
75 x 12
100 x 10
100 x 8
100 x 8 (this was the heaviest db in the gym at work)

pulldowns facing away from machine
130 x 12
150 x 10 (2 sets)

seated rows
150 x 12
180 x 10
200 x 10 (2 sets)

deadlifts
135 x 10
225 x 8
315 x 6
405 x 6
495 x 2 (NEW PR!!)

nothing out of the ordinary to report on, still no gyno, acne hasnt increased from normal, mood is stable. my muscles have been feeling more full lately. have a sore ass cheek from fridays inj...normal for me. i charlie horsed my calf yesterday so i dont know when i will be able to train them...hopefully soon. didnt get a chance to take my BP today, will do it tomorrow.

[joe-ali]

Hatter I wish u post ur back shots when u started so we could see the progress which I am sure is probably substantial. Keep it up bro.

As for ur probs with abombs, if ur not drinking at least 6liters of water and another 6glasses of greentea stay away from it. I had problems with it until I did that, but it also killed my appetitie, now I just use when dieting to hold mass and strength..

[MadHatter67]

thanks joe-ali, like i said, i wasnt going to post up any pics but now that i have those two up there i wish i would have taken some pics before i started the cycle. tomorrow marks week 2 of the cycle. as for the abombs, i thought i was drinking plenty of water, but i guess that could have been a problem. im not completely put off from them...i would try them again but i would definately use all the support supps that people have told me about instead of just using one or two.

[MadHatter67]

yesterdays workout was
shoulders:
5 sets presses
cable side raises
rear pec deck
fst7 side raises
shrugs

i cant remember weights, reps, or sets right now...having a little amnesia. it was an awesome shoulder workout, got a pump right away, felt strong, and didnt want to leave the gym...almost made my workout partner puke.

shot 100 mgs prop and 200 mgs e/c blend in right glute yesterday. starting to feel more agressive...got behind some asshole doing 15 UNDER the speedlimit on the way home from work and felt like i was going to explode behind the wheel. other than that acne is normal, no gyno or itchy nips...everything seems normal.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift
chest:
DB flat bench
70 x 12
80 x 10
100 x 8
110 x 8
120 x 8
130 x 6
70 x 12 (2 sets)

incline BB
135 x 10
225 x 8
245 x 6 (2 sets)

hammer iso bench
2 plates each side x 12 (2 sets)
2 plates each side x 8

pec deck
100 x 12
110 x 10
110 x 10

i was gassed after all those sets on flat DB, my shoulder held up pretty good...no pain there, started feeling some pain in my left elbow after the hammer iso bench. feeling pretty strong. taking tomorrow off. will post up this weeks weight/measurements on thursday.

[MadHatter67]

shot 100 mgs prop in right delt tonight...pretty routine inj. notice that my traps have more pop to them which im pretty happy about. will post up this weeks measurements tomorrow.

[MadHatter67]

ok here are the measurements gents...

starting point
arms: 17
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist:35
quads: 25
calves: 16
weight: 217

end of week 1
arms: 17 1/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 53
waist: 35
quads: 25 3/4
calves: 16
weight: 221

end of week 2
arms: 17 1/4
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52 1/2
waist: 35 1/4
quads: 25 1/2
calves: 16
weight: 221.3

ok so as you can see, my shoulder measurement went down 1/2 inch, my quads went down 1/4 inch, my arms are up by 1/8 inch, and my waist is up 1/2 inch. as far as the sum of my measurements being down by around 1/2 inch, i think that may be due to whatever bloat i had going on with the abombs...as for my waist, ive noticed the past 3-4 days that im feeling gassy and bloated...not like retaining water bloated...so im bumping up my digestive enzymes, and shifting my meals around so that im not taking in a ton of dense calories before bed. if you guys have any input im open to suggestions.

now, here is todays lift
arms:
rope extensions to warm up the elbows
100 x 15-20, 2 sets

striaght bar curl
45 x 12 warm up
65 x 10 warm up
95 x 8
115 x 6
135 x 6

DB hammer curl
60 x 10
65 x 8

1 arm preacher curl
80 x 8
80 x 6
80 x 20 (using both hands)

incline DB curl
50 x 7 (2 sets pulling both DBs at same time)

nautilus seated dip
1 plate each side x 15
2 plates x 12
3 plates x 10
3 plates x 8

v-bar press down
170 x 10
190 x 12
190 x 10

reverse grip ez bar extension
130 x 10 (3 sets)

i wasnt really feeling todays lift for some reason. i had to lift in the morning, which i hate so i think that kinda fucked with my mind set. ive been having some elbow pain the last week so i decided to stay away from skull crushes and close grip bench which i figured out leaves you not shit for a good tri workout....this also contributed to my mind set. i did do 15 minutes of interval cardio on the step mill...that shits brutal...thanks B.

[fireazm]

great log man

[MadHatter67]

thanks for checking it out fireazm....reps.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift:
legs
squats
135 x 12 wide stance
135 x 12 close
225 x 12 wide (2 sets)
225 x 12 close (2 sets)
seated curls
110 x 20
120 x 15 (3 sets)
leg press
315 x 15 wide
315 x 15 close
405 x 15 wide
405 x 15 close
lying curl
100 x 15 (3 sets)

3 sets for calves

i wanted to try something a little different today so i went with alternating wide and close stance, and higher reps than i do normally. it really blew my legs up, i had one hell of a pump.

todays inj is 100 mgs prop, 200 mgs e/c blend in left delt.

no sides yet, no gyno or acne...pretty comfortable cycle so far.

[crashcrew56]

Leg workout looks good, except for one thing, you should definetly be using more weight on the squats, I know you can handle it.

[MadHatter67]

yea i know...weve already talked about it so no need to post up anything else.

update:
adding masteron prop at 400 mgs/week.

so todays inj was 100 mgs prop, 200 mgs e/c blend, and 100 mgs mast into right glute. it was a fucking whopping shot and im anxious to see if my cheek is sore tonight or tomorrow. ive never shot that much volume into any muscle before. i will also be dropping aromasin...after reading HI's profile of mast im gunna try this out and see if the AI properties of mast actually work for me, he also mentions that 400 mgs/week is a proper dose, so thats where i came up with that.

other than that, still no acne or gyno...measurements will be posted up on weds this week due to the fact that thursday i will be making my way to ohio for ZE AHNOLD!!!!

[MadHatter67]

this weeks workouts are going to get shuffled around so that i will be able to train chest friday with some friends in ohio, and back thursday with my pops. so heres todays lift

arms:
close grip bench
185 x 12
225 x 10
275 x 6
315 x 5
185 x 12

reverse ez bar curl
120 x 12
170 x 6
180 x 6, drop to 100 x 12

straight bar extensions (3 drop sets)
120 x 12-100 x 12
150 x 12-120 x 12
160 x 12-120 x 10

hammer DB curls
65 x 10
70 x 8

rope extensions
120 x 12
140 x 10
150 x 10

cable curls (as if doing a front dbl bi pose)
60 x 12
70 x 12
70 x 12

this was an awesome workout, got an amazing pump right off the start. hope this sets the tone for this weeks workouts.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift
shoulders:
DB military press
70 x 12
85 x 12
100 x 8
100 x 7
60 x 12

leaning side raises
25 x 12
30 x 12
30 x 12

rope high pulls - super setted with rear pec deck
70 x 12 - 60 x 12
85 x 12 - 80 x 10
85 x 12 - 80 x 10

nautilus press
110 x 12 (3 sets)

3 sets of shrugs.

good lift, great pump, noticing improved vascularity thru shoulders.

[MadHatter67]

i forgot to post this, but my right glute HUUUURTS. that 2.5 ml shot i did yesterday has got me feeling like im walking around with an orange in my ass cheek. i think next time i will split it up into 2 shots so im not inj so much volume.

[crashcrew56]

According to the textbook answer you can inject up to 5ml into a large muscle like the glute.

[Shadow]

Strange. Only time I ever got a knot from injecting a lot of volume into glutes or quads was when the needle moved around too much.

[MadHatter67]

According to the textbook answer you can inject up to 5ml into a large muscle like the glute.

i know, thats why i asked you about how much volume you could inj before i went ahead and shot all that.


Strange. Only time I ever got a knot from injecting a lot of volume into glutes or quads was when the needle moved around too much.

its not really a knot...its not hard, red, splotchy, or hot. it just feels kinda heavy on my glute, and you can only see/feel it when i flex my glutes.

[MadHatter67]

here are the measurements after week 3.

starting point
arms: 17
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist:35
quads: 25
calves: 16
weight: 217

end of week 1
arms: 17 1/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 53
waist: 35
quads: 25 3/4
calves: 16
weight: 221

end of week 2
arms: 17 1/4
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52 1/2
waist: 35 1/4
quads: 25 1/2
calves: 16
weight: 221.3

end of week 3
arms: 17 7/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist: 34 7/8
quads: 25 3/4
calves:16
weight: 222

ok, so i believe part of the reason my chest and shoulder measurement hasnt changed is because i havent trained them this week...just my speculation...i might be wrong. and i will say a little of that arm measurement is a small pump from training 2 days ago, so i will say they are 17 3/4.

here is what i have gained after 3 weeks,
3/4 of an inch on my quads
3/4 of an inch on my arms
lost 1/8 inch around my waist
gained 5 lbs.

from my past cycle experience, i usually start to notice the size gains around week 4, so hopefully next weeks measurements will show some good gains across the board.

also, it seems that my damn calves dont want to respond. i usually train them twice per week, fairly high reps, usually 2 exercises of 3 sets...im open to suggestions on how to get some growth in my calves.

not sure if i mentioned my goals, but i want to add some side and rear delt mass, chest and arm thickness, quad sweep, and calf size. i guess im going after that X-man look being that im a taller guy. any suggestions for this are appreciated.

[MadHatter67]

ive also notice my tear drop has came out rather nicely the past week and a half or so.

[Shadow]

its not really a knot...its not hard, red, splotchy, or hot. it just feels kinda heavy on my glute, and you can only see/feel it when i flex my glutes.

That's what I meant, lol.

Nice gains!

[Shadow]

Oh, also.

Drop the reps on calves on one of the days. Try one day low reps and another high. For rear delts, I noticed that by doing them FIRST, with two different moves, they came up significantly.

[MadHatter67]

thanks for the input shadow, i will give both of those suggestions a try.

[MadHatter67]

Hatter I wish u post ur back shots when u started so we could see the progress which I am sure is probably substantial. Keep it up bro.

As for ur probs with abombs, if ur not drinking at least 6liters of water and another 6glasses of greentea stay away from it. I had problems with it until I did that, but it also killed my appetitie, now I just use when dieting to hold mass and strength..

this photo was taken about a week before i started my cycle, so you can compare it to the one that was taken at about week 2.5 and see what you think. top photo is 2.5 weeks into cycle, bottom photo is about a week prior to starting.

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=87561&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1298158321 (http://forums.rxmuscle.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=87561&d=1298158321)

[MadHatter67]

todays lift:
legs
squats
135 x 12
225 x 10
315 x 10
365 x 8
405 x 6

leg press
425 x 10 (knee hurt like hell)
335 x 12 (2 sets)

hacks
135 x 12
225 x 10

extensions
7 toes out, 7 in, 7 striaght x 3 sets

curls
125 x 12 (2 sets)

so as soon as i finished my warm up with 225, i went to sit on a bench and my knee popped and as soon as this happened my whole lower right leg hurt like hell and i couldnt put hardly any weight on it. this is the second time this has happened to me (also i have a history of knee/joint pain). i powered thru the squats with my trusty knee wraps but then when i went to the presses it flared up agian. this seriously fucked my mindset and i couldnt refocus on the lift. i did what i thought was enuf to not completely waste the day, but by no means am i in any way pleased with this lift. even as i sit here writting this, just the slightest bend in my knee aches.

on another note. i will be shooting 150 mgs mast and 100 mgs prop in divided doses tonight. one inj in the right delt, the other in the left delt...im doing this because i plan to hit chest friday and i dont want to have any wierd tightness in one delt and not the other. my right glute seems to be feeling better as the day has gone on, the only time i can feel it now is getting in and out of my truck.

speaking of hitting chest friday...B, you better bring your A game!!!

[crashcrew56]

I bring nothing less than my A game.

[MadHatter67]

just did tonights inj's...150 mgs mast in right delt, 100 mgs prop in left delt. right delt is a little tight, as i said before this is normal for my right delt for some reason. left delt feels fine, prop inj was smooth as silk. mast inj i think i hit some scar tissue or something, there were a couple pauses where the plunger had to really be pressed hard.

[MadHatter67]

just got back from my weekend at the arnold classic, and it was a blast. caught a lift friday at metro fitness, saw kai in there, got my ass kicked by the thurmanator.

now about my training...was able to get 335 x 3 on flat bench, and 120 x 6-8 on incline DB. also shot 100 mgs prop, 150 mgs mast, and 200 mgs e/c blend in left glute. not too sore but i think doing that shot the day before driving 6 hours has caused it to be more sore than it normally would. i noticed a couple days ago that my skin is waaay more oily than normal, but i havent had any acne flares. i know that mast is a pretty strong androgen so im not sure if thats causing the excess oil, or if its from all the greasy food i ate this weekend, probably a combo of both.

took my BP tonight and its at 122/80, so its good to see thats back to normal.

tomorrow its back to the normal grind...should be hitting back but we'll see how it goes.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift:
back
wide grip pull ups
3 sets body weight 10-12 reps

palms facing pull downs
180 x 12
200 x 10
210 x 8
220 x 6

hammer 1 arm rows
2 plates each side x 10
3 plates x 8
4 plates x 6
2 plates x 15

t-bar rows
2 plates x 10
3 plates x 8
4 plates x 7
5 plates x 6

pull overs
3 sets with 4 plates 10-12 reps

todays shot was 100 mgs prop, 150 mgs mast, 200 mgs e/c blend. it was nice to be back in the gym after a few days off and eating like shit. still no gyno or acne flares, have been off aromasin for 4 days now...skin is still super oily.

[MadHatter67]

figured i would share a photo of my weekend at the arnold, and the best part was that we just stumbled into the line for ronnie, and only waited about 10 minutes.

[MadHatter67]

i was at work yesterday so i wasnt able to post up my lift so here it is

shoulders:
standing over head press
95 x 12
115 x 12
155 x 10
185 x 7
205 x 5 (PR)

arnold press
55 x 12
60 x 12
65 x 11

DB side raises
25 x 12
30 x 12
35 x 12
35 x 12

DB shrugs
100 x 15 (3 sets)

cable rear delt
25 x 12
30 x 15
30 x 15

had an awesome pump going on after during that workout. noticed some nice vascularity in my shoulders.

UPDATE: i stopped the aromasin a week ago to see if the masteron would work as an AI for me...not the case. started noticing sore/swollen nips about 2 days ago so im starting up the aromasin again at 25 mgs/ed, once its under control i will drop to 12.5 mgs/ed.

shot 100 mgs prop in left delt, 100 mgs mast in right delt...the only reason im splitting these shots is personal preference...i dont like having one shoulder feeling tight and not the other. i also feel wider when i do these shots like this, its just a mental thing.

week 4s measurements will be posted up later today. im anxious to see where im at. im gunna go ahead and call it....my waist will probably be up a little due to all the shit i ate at the arnold.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift was
arms
BB curl
95 x 10
135 x 6
145 x 6
145 x 5

rolling DB extension
50 x 10
60 x 8
50 x 10

hammer curls
70 x 10
75 x 8
75 x 7

jm press
135 x 7 (2 sets)

preacher curls
125 x 12 (3 sets)

1 hand reverse press down
60 x 12 (3 sets)

had a nice pump going during this lift, had to keep myself from doing more volume.

ok here are the measurements for the week:
starting point
arms: 17
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist:35
quads: 25
calves: 16
weight: 217

end of week 1
arms: 17 1/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 53
waist: 35
quads: 25 3/4
calves: 16
weight: 221

end of week 2
arms: 17 1/4
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52 1/2
waist: 35 1/4
quads: 25 1/2
calves: 16
weight: 221.3

end of week 3
arms: 17 7/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist: 34 7/8
quads: 25 3/4
calves:16
weight: 222

end of week 4
arms:17 3/4
chest:49
around shoulders:53 3/4
waist:35 1/8
quads:25 3/4
calves:16 1/8
weight:225

ok so the increase in my shoulder measurement is pretty drastic, this is probably due to the fact that i trained them yesterday, and inj them this morning. nonetheless, i wanted to post up that measurement to see how much it varies from next week. i want another 3/8 of an inch on my arm atleast, my waist will go down once i detox from all the shit i ate over the weekend. and calves are up 1/8 of an inch, finally. it seems like some things increase one week, then others increase a next week...i really dont care as long as im seeing progress.

[MadHatter67]

todays lif
legs:
squats
135 x 10
225 x 8
315 x 8
405 x 5
455 x 2 drop set to 225 x 8

lying leg curl
100 x 12
115 x 12
120 x 11
120 x 11

press
315 x 20
405 x 15
495 x 15
585 x 15

stiff leg dead
185 x 10
195 x 7
195 x 7

walking DB lunges
40lbs lunging 35 yards (3 sets)

seated leg curl
130 x 15
130 x 15

felt really good during this leg day, knees held up nicely. my legs actually went numb on the last set of presses which i thought was kinda cool.

tonight i will be inj 100 mgs prop, 150 mgs mast, and 200 mgs e/c blend into left glute.

only sides im experiencing are elevated body temp/excess sweating, oily face, sore/puffy nips.

[Shadow]

I might have missed this, but why the mast?

[MadHatter67]

I might have missed this, but why the mast?

why not the mast? haha, i have like 4-5 bottles of it laying around, never used it before so i decided to give it a go. and i figured that since i dropped the drol, using the mast to bump the overall weekly AAS to over a gram/week wouldnt be a bad idea.

[Shadow]

Ah ok, gotcha.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift
chest
incline BB
135 x 12
225 x 12
275 x 8
315 x 5
315 x 5

flat DB
115 x 8
120 x 6 (felt some popping in the shoulder)
75 x 12

cable fly, hi to low
60 x 12 (3 sets)

hammer decline press
1 plate x 12
2 plates x 12

i can count on one hand the number of times in my 10 years of training that i have done decline bench...so that shows you how often i do it. the only reason i did it today was because some schmoe was on the bench i wanted taking forever. the incline was a PR for me, ive never done 5 solid reps with that weight, and never for 2 sets like that. i had a really good pump going thru the whole lift and felt really strong.

still no sides to report, gyno and oily skin hasnt gotten any worse, libido is up, aggression is slightly elevated, had my BP done over the weekend and its 122/80. i was noticing last night that i have put on some good mass in my tear drops, which is something ive always wanted to bring up.

tonights inj is 100mgs prop, 150 mgs mast, 200 mgs e/c blend, divided doses into both delts.

[Mike Conley]

Good lift dude!!!!

[Shadow]

What are you doing about the gyno?

[BigJD69]

If you are still having problems with headaches try adding CoQ10 and or L-Arginine!

[MadHatter67]

Good lift dude!!!!

thanks bro.


What are you doing about the gyno?

aromasin, 25 mgs/ed.


If you are still having problems with headaches try adding CoQ10 and or L-Arginine!

thanks for the tip, i will definately keep that in mind for the next time i use any orals.

[fireazm]

love the log

[MadHatter67]

thanks man, i try to put as much info as i can think of in here.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift
back:
deadlifts
135 x 10
225 x 8
315 x 6
405 x 6
455 x 5

wide grip pull ups
bodyweight x 12
bw + 25 x 7 (2 sets)
bw x 12

underhand bb row
135 x 12
225 x 10, 8, 8

behind the head pull downs
130 x 12 (3 sets)

DB pull overs
55 x 12 (3 sets)

lift felt pretty good, my right delt (as always) is tight from last nights inj so it was a little uncomfortable to do some of the exercises but i tried to power thru it. im thinking about seeing if a heat pad would help ease the aching, if not its nothing i cant handle.

measurements for the end of week 5 go up tomorrow. hopeful to see some nice additions from last week.

[crashcrew56]

back workout looks good, you close to a PR with that deadlift?

[MadHatter67]

my PR off the floor is 495 x 2, i just did that like 3 weeks ago. thats probably a PR for reps with that weight, but i dont keep up with higher rep PRs.

[MadHatter67]

ok here are the measurements for the week:
starting point
arms: 17
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist:35
quads: 25
calves: 16
weight: 217

end of week 1
arms: 17 1/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 53
waist: 35
quads: 25 3/4
calves: 16
weight: 221

end of week 2
arms: 17 1/4
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52 1/2
waist: 35 1/4
quads: 25 1/2
calves: 16
weight: 221.3

end of week 3
arms: 17 7/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist: 34 7/8
quads: 25 3/4
calves:16
weight: 222

end of week 4
arms:17 3/4
chest:49
around shoulders:53 3/4
waist:35 1/8
quads:25 3/4
calves:16 1/8
weight:225

end of week 5
arms: 17 7/8
chest:47***
around shoulders: 53 1/4
waist:34 3/4-34 7/8
quads: 25 3/4-25 7/8
calves: 16 1/8
weight: 225

todays lift was arms...terrible lift, rushed, got to the gym nearly 2 hours late. ok, as you can see pretty much everything is up with my waist measurement down and weight staying the same. overall im pleased, after all im after measurements, not weight.

the mast is definately hardening me up, i can see more definition in my shoulders and midsection and i havent changed my diet at all. i started sleeping with just a sheet to stop the night sweats and so far its worked, trade off is i get pretty cold at times.

gyno is under control, no acne (surprisingly), libido is definately wayyy up, aggression still slightly elevated which is expected. i notice my facial hair is growing at an incredible rate, i could probably use a shave twice per day....i cared enough that is. other than that everything is good, no joint pain or anything.

[MadHatter67]

forgot to mention, about my chest measurement...im an idiot and this whole time ive been taping i have read the 46 as a 49, seeing as how i had the tape measure upside down....my bust.

[Mike Conley]

Man I miss the behind the head pulldowns. Dr. said not to do stuff behind the head anymore though. With them and presses overhead and behind the head the cut in my shoulders made the peak in my biceps much more noticeable

[MadHatter67]

Man I miss the behind the head pulldowns. Dr. said not to do stuff behind the head anymore though. With them and presses overhead and behind the head the cut in my shoulders made the peak in my biceps much more noticeable

yea im a big fan of behind the head pulldowns. i dont go above 130 on them tho, i have had one shoulder surgery and im not looking for another. and since ive incorporated them and standing over head press i have noticed more fullness to my entire shoulder girdle.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift:
shoulders:
standing OHP 4 sets
front raises 3 sets
DB laterals 3 sets
DB rear laterals 3 sets
cable laterals 3 sets
farmers walks 3 sets

i forgot my notepad and i dont remember the poundage used here. this is quite a bit more volume than normal but i figured i can handle it.

mondays inj in my right delt is still sore and somewhat interferred with todays lift but i tried not to let it effect me too much.

im liking the test/mast combo...i feel like im getting harder by the day and my pumps have been outrageous lately.

[Mike Conley]

todays lift:
shoulders:
standing OHP 4 sets
front raises 3 sets
DB laterals 3 sets
DB rear laterals 3 sets
cable laterals 3 sets
farmers walks 3 sets

i forgot my notepad and i dont remember the poundage used here. this is quite a bit more volume than normal but i figured i can handle it.

mondays inj in my right delt is still sore and somewhat interferred with todays lift but i tried not to let it effect me too much.

im liking the test/mast combo...i feel like im getting harder by the day and my pumps have been outrageous lately.

What you running them at??

[MadHatter67]

700 test, 400 mast per week, 25 mgs aromasin ed

[MadHatter67]

UPDATE:
got my blood work results today, liver and kidney values are prefect, RBC and WBC are .6 above normal, cholesterol is slightly elevated....for whatever reason my T and E values werent on there but it was good to see that my organs and cholesterol are doing good.

[J Burns]

OHHHHHH SHIT!!! Man I feel stupid! Thanks for the heads up and not making me look any more stupid!!!

[J Burns]

I was looking at everything so wrong!!!! I dont wanna get huge just healthy. Thanks for the heads up I deleted that thread and I think I just might try your routine. Man I feel STUPID! Keep it up and you will hit that 240 and I just might too!:yep:

[MadHatter67]

OHHHHHH SHIT!!! Man I feel stupid! Thanks for the heads up and not making me look any more stupid!!!

dude, respond to questions about your thread IN your thread...not in mine. nobody is making you look stupid, your doing a pretty good job of that yourself. c'mon man.

[MadHatter67]

I was looking at everything so wrong!!!! I dont wanna get huge just healthy. Thanks for the heads up I deleted that thread and I think I just might try your routine. Man I feel STUPID! Keep it up and you will hit that 240 and I just might too!:yep:
why did you delete the thread? you would have gotten an answer, you would have just had to eat a little shit for that opening remark. dont go off of my routine, this is what i have put together over about 10-11 years of trial and error in training and 3 years of AAS use. put in work to research, and figure out what works for you.

[MadHatter67]

been a few days since i posted last...took the weekend off, and spent last night at work. anyways, todays lift....

chest:
flat bench
135 x 12
225 x 10
275 x 7
315 x 6
325 x 6
365 x 1, drop to 225 x 12

incline db
70 x 12
80 x 11
80 x 12

flat db fly
50 x 12 (3 sets)

cable hi-lo
50 x 12
55 x 12
55 x 12

i was very pleased with todays lift...its been a while since i was under that amount of weight. had an insane pump going.

no new sides, no acne, skin still oily, gyno still there...but not getting any bigger. like i said earlier, i feel like im getting harder by the day. so far im really liking the test/mast combo and im anxious to see what happens when i throw dbol in the mix next time i bulk.

[caribeman]

Mad, this is an awesome read. What benefit have you found in using Masteron? Or do you think 700mg of Test alone would have been just fine? Reason why I asked is that while researching Masteron I've found most use it while cutting and while having a very low BF%. Thanks.

[MadHatter67]

Mad, this is an awesome read. What benefit have you found in using Masteron? Or do you think 700mg of Test alone would have been just fine? Reason why I asked is that while researching Masteron I've found most use it while cutting and while having a very low BF%. Thanks.

thanks man, i appreciate it...im sure that 700 mgs/week of test would have been fine. my main reason for adding in the mast is to push my total weekly aas over 1 gram, and i had a good bit of it laying around and wanted to try it out.

what have i noticed since adding mast into the cycle?...outrageous pumps, vascularity, and i feel harder every time i go in the gym. i can see a change in my midsection, yet my measurements and weight havent changed.

some not so good thing i have experienced with adding the mast...oily skin, kind of uncomfortable injections, and an overall increase in core body temp...if i sleep with anything more than a sheet, i wake up and have literally sweat thru the covers and pillow...its kinda gross.

ah, i also tried to use mast as an AI, which was an epic fail and i DONT recommend anyone do this!!! haha. my gyno flared up about 4 days after stoping my aromasin.

[MadHatter67]

ok todays lift
shoulders:
standing OHP
135 x 10
185 x 6
185 x 6
135 x 10

cable laterals superset with rear pec deck
30 x 10-90 x 10
35 x 10-100 x 12
40 x 10-100 x 12

front DB raise
30 x 15
35 x 10
40 x 10

DB high pulls
30 x 12
40 x 12
40 x 10

behind the head press
3 sets of 95 x 15

had a great pump thru the workout...some elbow pain on the OHP, thats why i only did 2 heavy sets. noticed some veins crossing over my traps so i was pretty impressed with that. overall good lift....will post up this weeks measurements later tonight or tomorrow.

[spude]

thanks man, i appreciate it...im sure that 700 mgs/week of test would have been fine. my main reason for adding in the mast is to push my total weekly aas over 1 gram, and i had a good bit of it laying around and wanted to try it out.

what have i noticed since adding mast into the cycle?...outrageous pumps, vascularity, and i feel harder every time i go in the gym. i can see a change in my midsection, yet my measurements and weight havent changed.

some not so good thing i have experienced with adding the mast...oily skin, kind of uncomfortable injections, and an overall increase in core body temp...if i sleep with anything more than a sheet, i wake up and have literally sweat thru the covers and pillow...its kinda gross.

ah, i also tried to use mast as an AI, which was an epic fail and i DONT recommend anyone do this!!! haha. my gyno flared up about 4 days after stoping my aromasin.

really? mast has been the only ai i use while bulking and i've never had any problems...then again we are all different but weren't you the same guy who was complaining about too low estro a while back? 'cos i think that the reason for those gyno symptoms was not the actual amount of e floating around but rather the sudden change...maybe if you had slightly decreased aromasin little by little to zero it would be possibly that no problems had occurred...:dunno:...i still kinda feel that 400mg mast a week and 25mg aromasin a day is a bit overkill with 700mg test...especially if you're trying to build more mass

[MadHatter67]

really? mast has been the only ai i use while bulking and i've never had any problems...then again we are all different but weren't you the same guy who was complaining about too low estro a while back? 'cos i think that the reason for those gyno symptoms was not the actual amount of e floating around but rather the sudden change...maybe if you had slightly decreased aromasin little by little to zero it would be possibly that no problems had occurred...:dunno:...i still kinda feel that 400mg mast a week and 25mg aromasin a day is a bit overkill with 700mg test...especially if you're trying to build more mass

im not whoever it was that was complaining about low E. my gyno wasnt flaring up at all on 700 mgs/week of test using 12.5 mgs ed of aromasin. i overlapped the use of aromasin and mast for about a week then i dropped the aromasin. and about 4-5 days later i had a lump a little bigger than a pea under my left nip. last time my gyno flarred up like that i just used aromasin at 25 mgs/ed and about 2 weeks later it was back to normal. i would agree that 400 mgs mast and 25 mgs aromsin would probably be a little over kill if my test dose was around 500, or if i were using more than 25 mgs/ed on the current cycle. then again like you said, we all respond differently and i dont respond to using mast as an AI.

[the bull eso]

good log bro keep it up..

[MadHatter67]

ok here are the measurements for the week:
starting point
arms: 17
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist:35
quads: 25
calves: 16
weight: 217

end of week 1
arms: 17 1/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 53
waist: 35
quads: 25 3/4
calves: 16
weight: 221

end of week 2
arms: 17 1/4
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52 1/2
waist: 35 1/4
quads: 25 1/2
calves: 16
weight: 221.3

end of week 3
arms: 17 7/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist: 34 7/8
quads: 25 3/4
calves:16
weight: 222

end of week 4
arms:17 3/4
chest:49
around shoulders:53 3/4
waist:35 1/8
quads:25 3/4
calves:16 1/8
weight:225

end of week 5
arms: 17 7/8
chest:47***
around shoulders: 53 1/4
waist:34 3/4-34 7/8
quads: 25 3/4-25 7/8
calves: 16 1/8
weight: 225

end of week 6
arms: 18
chest: 48
around shoulders: 53 1/2
waist: 35
quads: 25 3/4
calves: 16 1/4
weight: 225

the measurements this week were taken pretty much as soon as i woke up. i was actually worried that i wasnt going to see any gains this week, ive had some joint pains which have lead to some shitty lifts. i increased my calories this week by about 500. im super happy that i finally broke that 18" mark for arms, that was a main goal i had. another 1/4 inch on shoulders surprised me...ive noticed more definition there so i thought the measurement would be down slightly. i was blown away by my chest measurement, and also happy to see another 1/8 inch on calves. overall i couldnt be happier with this weeks measurements.

[spude]

im not whoever it was that was complaining about low E. my gyno wasnt flaring up at all on 700 mgs/week of test using 12.5 mgs ed of aromasin. i overlapped the use of aromasin and mast for about a week then i dropped the aromasin. and about 4-5 days later i had a lump a little bigger than a pea under my left nip. last time my gyno flarred up like that i just used aromasin at 25 mgs/ed and about 2 weeks later it was back to normal. i would agree that 400 mgs mast and 25 mgs aromsin would probably be a little over kill if my test dose was around 500, or if i were using more than 25 mgs/ed on the current cycle. then again like you said, we all respond differently and i dont respond to using mast as an AI.

ok mate...thx for your honest answer! so are you gonna get back to 12,5 mgs after you've taken care of those symptoms or will you continue at 25 mgs a day? anyway, nice progress! good luck!

[MadHatter67]

yea i plan on going down to 12.5 mgs in another week. thanks for checking out the log.

[MadHatter67]

hit a new PR for squats yesterday....495 x 1. thats a 40lb increase from my old pr.

[crashcrew56]

Where's the workout at?

[Dadup]

hit a new PR for squats yesterday....495 x 1. thats a 40lb increase from my old pr.
nice job! thats alot of weight

[Fah-Q]

Great work man! 1" on your arms in 6 weeks, hell yes!

[MadHatter67]

Where's the workout at?

workout was
squats
135 x 10
225 x 6
315 x 4
405 x 1
475 x 1
495 x 1

lying leg curl
3 sets of 12 @ 120

leg press 3 sets of 15 @ 315

i wanted to get that squat and then have a light leg day, so thats all i did


nice job! thats alot of weight

thanks man, i fell it the day, and 2 days after. my knees, shins, and ankles ache.


Great work man! 1" on your arms in 6 weeks, hell yes!

thanks bro, ive really been trying to bring my arms up...im pretty happy with the gains.

[MadHatter67]

todays lift
chest
flat BB
135 x 12, 10 (warm ups)
225 x 8
275 x 8
315 x 6

inc DB
100 x 10
110 x 6
90 x 10

hammer strength wide chest
2 plates x 12
3 plates x 10
4 plates x 10

cable cross overs
60 x 15
70 x 12
80 x 12

v-bar press down
120 x 15
180 x 12
210 x 12
230 x 10

this felt like a pretty solid workout concidering i was kinda crunched for time. adding the v-bars at the end really blew up my tris. im going to be hitting arms teice a week in an effort to really stimulate so new growth over the final few weeks of this cycle.

[MadHatter67]

today was
back
wide grip chins
body weight 3 sets 10-12

underhand BB rows
135 x 12
185 x 10
225 x 8
275 x 6

seated row superset with behind head pull downs
200 x 12/120 x 12 (3 sets)

DB pullovers
60 x 15
70 x 12 (2 sets)

cable straight bar curls
90 x 12
130 x 12
140 x 10 (2 sets)

pretty good workout, as always i had a great pump in the lats...i wanted to do some deadlifts but my hips/glutes hurt from squats and yesterdays inj.

[MadHatter67]

ok here are this weeks measurements
starting point
arms: 17
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist:35
quads: 25
calves: 16
weight: 217

end of week 1
arms: 17 1/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 53
waist: 35
quads: 25 3/4
calves: 16
weight: 221

end of week 2
arms: 17 1/4
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52 1/2
waist: 35 1/4
quads: 25 1/2
calves: 16
weight: 221.3

end of week 3
arms: 17 7/8
chest: 49
around shoulders: 52
waist: 34 7/8
quads: 25 3/4
calves:16
weight: 222

end of week 4
arms:17 3/4
chest:49
around shoulders:53 3/4
waist:35 1/8
quads:25 3/4
calves:16 1/8
weight:225

end of week 5
arms: 17 7/8
chest:47***
around shoulders: 53 1/4
waist:34 3/4-34 7/8
quads: 25 3/4-25 7/8
calves: 16 1/8
weight: 225

end of week 6
arms: 18
chest: 48
around shoulders: 53 1/2
waist: 35
quads: 25 3/4
calves: 16 1/4
weight: 225

end of week 7
arms: 17 7/8
chest: 48 1/16
around shoulders: 53 3/4
waist: 34 3/4
quads: 26
calves: 16 1/4
weight: 225.3

so my waist is down from the start and i havent changed my diet, only do cardio 1-2x per week...i contribute this to the mast...im seeing better detail thru my midsection and shoulders as well as overall hardness and vascularity. gained another 1/4 inch on quads and shoulders which is good since im going for that x-man frame..and a side note, there is no inj swelling to account for that shoulder measurement...its accurate. small gain on my chest, no gain for calves...but i have only trained them once this week, and arms are down slightly which im not too concerned about since i just started training them 2x per week, im sure i will make that up and then some. ah, and ive only went up .3 lbs....1/4 inch off waist + overall measurements increased = solid muscle gained. atleast thats how i see it.

[Fah-Q]

NIIIIIIIIIICE! Waist down, weight up? Moy Bueno!

[Mike Conley]

Full inch on the quads from the start! Nice work dude!!!!!!!!!!

[MadHatter67]

NIIIIIIIIIICE! Waist down, weight up? Moy Bueno!


Full inch on the quads from the start! Nice work dude!!!!!!!!!!

thanks guys. had my weight and BF done this morning. on a completely empty stomach (not even a protein shake) i weighed in at 225 and 12%. my body fat was done by tape, its not the best method but its all i had. i feel that its slightly off, but not by much. i was figuring myself to be 10-12%...12 being on the high side. i can see my seratus and 4 of 6 abs, either way im happy with it. waist measured in at 34 1/2 also.

[crashcrew56]

If you have your abs visible then I would put you at about 10

Good work though, even though your neck isn't as big as mine

[MadHatter67]

B, there are alot of things on me that arent as big as yours...neck, waist, ass, BF...just to name a few, hahaha.

[MadHatter67]

little update...ive been sick with some kind of chest congestion and painful cough. every time i start breathing heavy it triggers me coughing and hurts like a bitch, also been a challenge to eat anything thats not liquid. needless to say i havent hit the gym in about 4 days while i try to beat this thing. im expecting all measurements to be down this week due to this bout of sickness...first time ive been sick in a loooong time.

[Sieve]

little update...ive been sick with some kind of chest congestion and painful cough. every time i start breathing heavy it triggers me coughing and hurts like a bitch, also been a challenge to eat anything thats not liquid. needless to say i havent hit the gym in about 4 days while i try to beat this thing. im expecting all measurements to be down this week due to this bout of sickness...first time ive been sick in a loooong time.
Happened to me too lately, destroyed my prep for a comp.
Just rest, wish you good health.

[MadHatter67]

^^^thanks man. ive been trying to take it easy but try telling a 2 year old that his dad is sick...doesnt phase them. haha. its whatever tho, im not gunna put any of this before family.

[TheHeath]

^^^thanks man. ive been trying to take it easy but try telling a 2 year old that his dad is sick...doesnt phase them. haha. its whatever tho, im not gunna put any of this before family.

Priorities in line. What a cool thread/personal story. I'm living vicariously thru you while I rehab.

[joe-ali]

Nice work hatter! Good to see u focused on changes to ur body over just weight. Keep it up bro.

[J.thom]

solid log

[MadHatter67]

alright im firing up the log again. took a couple months off of gear and had to drop down about 12 lbs for personal reasons but ive kept training. im 2 weeks into my current bulk cycle which is 750 mgs/wk of test enan, and 20 mgs/ed of dbol, and 12.5 mgs/ed aromasin...will run this until ????

2 weeks ago my weight was 221-222 and this morning i weighed in at 229. this is the heaviest ive ever been at the start of a cycle so im pumped to see where this takes me.

ive changed my training to be more power lifter oriented just to pack on some thickness. i hit back 2x per week, one light day and one heavy day, same with chest and hamstrings. i only train 4 days a week right now and im seeing really good steady gains in size and strength even before i started the cycle.

i wont be taking any measurements this time around, might post a pic now and then. also wont be posting every lift that i do or every inj that i do...only the ones that really stand out.

my diet is rediculous right now, this dbol makes me super hungry so if i had to guess i would say my daily caloric intake is mid to high 4000s. dont care about gaining a little fat, will take care of that down the road.

[MadHatter67]

ive been away from the site for a while due to the outrageous amount of viruses that were going around, but heres an update. currently weighing 237 which is the most ive ever been. broke a new PR for deadlifts with a 565, and one for bench with 405. still using 750 mgs/wk of test e and 20 mgs/ed dbol, aromasin 12.5 mgs/ed.

[BigJD69]

any recent pics?

[MadHatter67]

no recent pics, i may try to take some this week if i get a chance and post them up.

[crashcrew56]

Those are some pretty badass PRs, someone must've written you up a pretty solid training cycle.

[MadHatter67]

^^^yea i like to call him my own personal guru. i forsee my raw PRs being higher than yours in the near future!

[crashcrew56]

We'll see about that

[MadHatter67]

ran out of dbol a few weeks ago so im just using 750 mgs/wk of test, just switched from enanthate to cyp, got about 4 weeks left to go with this cycle. im currently weighing 235-237 still. ive switched my training up a little more because ive decided to try my hand at a strongman competition so ive added in some split jerks, and things to work on explosiveness. ive also stopped using straps when i lift so that i can work on grip strength. i was able to pull 565 with out straps, so my grip is a little stronger than i thought.