Why isn't Adequan available for human use??

[lyssyfbaby]

Is it because it actually works??

[lyssyfbaby]

Adequan

Chemical Name: Polysulfated Glycosaminoglycan (PSGAG)
Drug Class: Injury Repair Agent

Adequan is a water based injectable which has been available for a long time for the purposes of joint repair, but never really caught on in the bodybuilding world. In the world of athletics, it was rumored that a very good international rugby team (with a low injury rate) were using loads of Adequan. This seemed to make sense, because while it was not approved at that time for human use, the country that team was from had a very big market for horse racing…and that’s what Adequan was originally used for- repairing joint injuries for injured racehorses. Aflutop, another joint remedy, is more widely available and has recently replaced Adequan on the underground market, for the most part- but that doesn’t mean that Adequan isn’t worth looking into.

Although Adequan works well to improve traumatic joint injuries, it seems much better at improving degenerative or long term, joint problems. It works well enough for either, though. When we look at treating joint problems, a lot of times we immediately look to NSAIDs (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory stuff like aspirin, etc...) to be used in conjunction with physical therapy, but that’s not the optimal treatment according to current research. Although the aspirin (or other NSAID) will help with pain, it could delay the recovery time. Adequan doesn’t and actually helps to improve range of motion and flexion as well as being able to increase synovial fluid. In all treated subjects in test-studies, Adequan improved their joint injuries.

When recovering from an injury, in one study, a side effect of Adequan was that IM administration of 500mgs E4D for 12 weeks produced a 13.5% increase in bodyweight! Whether that was a “true” anabolic effect, or just increased weight gained by recovering from an injury- is unclear.

A reasonable protocol for joint recovery using Adequan is 125mgs, via intramuscular injection near the affected joint, every 4 days should suffice. This protocol should be followed for at least 28 days or longer.

[JUSTINIAN]

If you or anyone has any access to this stuff please let me know...its supposed to be awesome, similar to glucosamine but better...and with no side effects...theyve been using as a veterinary product for relief of arthritis in horses and dogs for decades with amazing results...better than glucosamine...it should be legalized...why its not i dont know...but any access to it or any means of purchasing it on the internet please let me know...my severe osteoarthritis would be very grateful...i wish i was a dog so i could get some lol =)

[lyssyfbaby]

Lol. Im trying get access to the stuff too. It's seems like it's impossible to get it on the Internet without a prescription from a vet.

[Amazon Doll]

try Ichon,

Same thing but made with a different patten to get around the harsh limitations on use of adequan.

[lyssyfbaby]

Yea ive heard it works the same as adequan. Where can u buy it from?

[Sledge]

try Ichon,

Same thing but made with a different patten to get around the harsh limitations on use of adequan.

And avaliable through your local vet supplier:yep:

[nosuca]

Try Pentosan Equine and let us know... I am interested also.

[Amazon Doll]

And avaliable through your local vet supplier

you know because you have old creeky joints like me? :D

[lyssyfbaby]

U can get ichon from a vet without a prescription??

[Amazon Doll]

Depends on the supplier, but normally it is not a problem.

[sassy69]

Here is what one man said about the generic vs Adequan:
I am doing Acetyl-D-Glucosamine for my retiree and it has worked wonders.

I had a long chat with my vet first about the differences and his opinion boiled down to:
"They are not the same. Out of a group of horses, more will get better on adequan than the generic. Some horses will do well on the generic, but even better on Adequan. Some horses will do equally well on both. There is no harm in trying the generic first and switching if you don't get the result you want."

Since my mare is 25 and not working, I opted for the $50/12 weeks generic first- and saw amazing results. She is going to stay on 5mL IM per week for a second bottle and then we'll may try taking her off or we may keep that up indefinitely.

[Dre23]

I have used adequan for my dog ;) and his knee pain cleared up nicely. This was a few years ago. You just need to foster a relationship with someone on the boards who lives in Canada where you can buy it without a script.

[Amazon Doll]

Yes, but if adaquan was unavailable....would you use Ichon?

[lyssyfbaby]

So wat is the non dog ;-) dose for ichon??

[Dre23]

Yes, but if adaquan was unavailable....would you use Ichon?

I have not seen the literature and research on Ichon, but if it indeed identical (or nearly so) to Adequan, then I would say definitely use it.

Regarding dosing, it horses it was dosed at "X"mg per kilogram. I don't recall what "X" was, but just dose the adequan/Ichon based on the weight of your subject.

[lyssyfbaby]

I'll try ichon first since it's easier to get a hold of, until I find sum Canadian friends

[Dre23]

Is it because it actually works??

And to answer your original question, "Yes", I believe that the fact that it works plays into why it is not available for human use. But then again, I tend to believe in FDA medicinal conspiracies, lol.

[lyssyfbaby]

Pharmaceutical companies make more money off medicines that treat symptoms and don't actually cure anything. There's a cure for most diseases but the government hides that from the public because they wanna make that drug money...I also believe in conspiracies :-)

[Dre23]

Pharmaceutical companies make more money off medicines that treat symptoms and don't actually cure anything. There's a cure for most diseases but the government hides that from the public because they wanna make that drug money...I also believe in conspiracies :-)

Smart woman! I like the way you think.

[Bekim Rizvani]

I heard that a company was trying to come out with a human version of Adequan, but the fda will keep putting then off until they run out of money because they will take too much business away from some of the other drug company's.

[Dre23]

I heard that a company was trying to come out with a human version of Adequan, but the fda will keep putting then off until they run out of money because they will take too much business away from some of the other drug company's.

That is truly messed up.

[crashcrew56]

There's stuff out there just like it, but ment for humans, I know a guy that had it done, and he says it works great.

[Amazon Doll]

The last adequan I used came in 1ml vial and I used the whole ml every day for 20 days. The Ichon came in 5ml vials. I will go look up what info I have on it. I haven't used it for awhile and can't find what vet supply place I bought it from.

Recently I have been thinking about long term joint health and doing some preventative stuff like ichon, msm, condrointin & glucosimine on a low dose daily long term basis. But I don't seem to have cartiliage issues as much as I have tendon issues and neither of these products help with tendons that I know of.

[Reseg]

Another one to look at is Alflutop. I've had a lot of very positive feedback right up there with Adequan with many people using the word "Miracle" to describe it.

The stuff isn't cheap, but if it allows you to better follow your passion while living in less pain, or pain free it's a small price to pay ;)

[ritch]

ebay used to sell it...

[ritch]

don't know if we can post sources but google "buy adequan" stuff comes up....

[Bdon]

Anyone try it? I am curious to do it.

[warthog]

[QUOTE=lyssyfbaby;1499708]So wat is the non dog ;-) dose for ichon??[/QUOTE
Careful,the dog dose could be for a 160lb boerboel,so that would leave you getting more than you bargained for.
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