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Mr.Dedication
08-08-2011, 12:29 PM
Ok guys I'm going to have couple of new stuff in the mail today for my rats and I'm going to update this thread about the results and mixability.

Also if you guys want me try some stuff out(from ergo) on my rats before you guys do please let me know and I will. I am only going to do this for you guys because I love you guys(:hmn:no homo) and truly appreciate all the helps I've gotten from you guys.

So who's going to follow this?

DieselXT
08-08-2011, 01:04 PM
Ok guys I'm going to have couple of new stuff in the mail today for my rats and I'm going to update this thread about the results and mixability.

Also if you guys want me try some stuff out(from ergo) on my rats before you guys do please let me know and I will. I am only going to do this for you guys because I love you guys(:hmn:no homo) and truly appreciate all the helps I've gotten from you guys.

So who's going to follow this?

I'll follow you your the guy that usually researches stuff before us lol cool......many many people vouch for ergo at PM....still doesnt give me a good spine....:dunno:

DieselXT
08-08-2011, 01:07 PM
bro how did precison do in your research?

Mr.Dedication
08-08-2011, 01:15 PM
I'll follow you your the guy that usually researches stuff before us lol cool......many many people vouch for ergo at PM....still doesnt give me a good spine....:dunno:

You know me :D You should feel sorry for DatBtrue cause I have bombed that guys forum and PM box with one question after another lol.


bro how did precison do in your research?

They did good but the HGH Frag has sperm looking stuff in it also just like the DES which clogs the freaking syringe and that really pisses me off and makes things more difficult than it should be!

But ergo's shipping is much cheaper and you get a tracking number super duper fast and it always works...which makes it a lot easier since these are peptides and I can't afford people getting my mail(if you know what I mean)

Dadup
08-08-2011, 01:17 PM
sounds good to me, subbed Mr D

DieselXT
08-08-2011, 01:49 PM
You know me :D You should feel sorry for DatBtrue cause I have bombed that guys forum and PM box with one question after another lol.



They did good but the HGH Frag has sperm looking stuff in it also just like the DES which clogs the freaking syringe and that really pisses me off and makes things more difficult than it should be!

But ergo's shipping is much cheaper and you get a tracking number super duper fast and it always works...which makes it a lot easier since these are peptides and I can't afford people getting my mail(if you know what I mean)

what i have read on hgh frag: This is a hydrophobic peptide, meaning that when recond it will be cloudy, and by that you can tell it is real hgh frag.

Maybe genx reps and clarify this....

Mr.Dedication
08-08-2011, 01:56 PM
sounds good to me, subbed Mr D

AWESOME! Thanks for following bud!


what i have read on hgh frag: This is a hydrophobic peptide, meaning that when recond it will be cloudy, and by that you can tell it is real hgh frag.

Maybe genx reps and clarify this....

That is very true but the PP is not cloudy...it just had that sperm things in it BUT I got a frag from both of them brand new not reconed so I will recon both of them and place them and place both of them in the same place and see what happens ;)

DieselXT
08-08-2011, 02:12 PM
AWESOME! Thanks for following bud!



That is very true but the PP is not cloudy...it just had that sperm things in it BUT I got a frag from both of them brand new not reconed so I will recon both of them and place them and place both of them in the same place and see what happens ;)

are you keeping your peptides in the fridge?

ADRAKE21
08-08-2011, 05:54 PM
ergo g2g good prices mixes awesom bout ghrp-6 and they sent another for free! fast service

Barrett
08-08-2011, 05:56 PM
i'll follow.

GarlicChicken
08-08-2011, 08:51 PM
I will definitely be following...as you know I'm in the market for a new peptide source. Been looking at them hard lately...might use IGF-1 LR3 or DES for a bridge between orals on my next cycle.

Milas
08-08-2011, 09:42 PM
what are you going to research?

Mr.Dedication
08-09-2011, 08:38 PM
are you keeping your peptides in the fridge?

No sir! Cool, dry, place. Dat said it would be okay. But in 2 weeks or so I will be in my own place and have my own personal fridge and freezer ;)

Mr.Dedication
08-09-2011, 08:44 PM
ergo g2g good prices mixes awesom bout ghrp-6 and they sent another for free! fast service

That is very true sir. Keep me update on the GHRP-6. I actually got some for my friend's rats so will see if we are getting same patches and how they are working.


i'll follow.

Thank you sir!


I will definitely be following...as you know I'm in the market for a new peptide source. Been looking at them hard lately...might use IGF-1 LR3 or DES for a bridge between orals on my next cycle.

Speaking of DES :p I got that and I will be using that today ;)


what are you going to research?

I will be researching:

DES
GH frag
PEG MGF

I'll be following my friend's rat very closely on use of GHRP-6.


I am also going to use some stuff in the future...such as...

Folli
ACVR2B
GHRP-2
CJC1295(don't know with or without DAC yet...talking it over with DAT)
and probably GHRP-6

Mr.Dedication
08-09-2011, 08:45 PM
If you guys want me to try anything out before you do please let me know and I'll do it!

I'm going balls-to-the-wall with this :yep: lol

GarlicChicken
08-10-2011, 01:30 AM
If you guys want me to try anything out before you do please let me know and I'll do it!

I'm going balls-to-the-wall with this :yep: lol

I can tell lol. Definitely let me know how the DES goes...I really want to run some, just don't want to pay the price...I'm a broke ass college student now too lol. Good luck with your stuff. Are you trying to cut or bulk?

Also, if you can find out a standard dosing protocol for the 1295 with DAC let me know, I'm thinking if I could just get the bleed going it might work better for me than the pulse...less feeling like sleeping all the time and maybe slightly reduced effects...it would be better during the semester for sure

Mr.Dedication
08-10-2011, 12:04 PM
I can tell lol. Definitely let me know how the DES goes...I really want to run some, just don't want to pay the price...I'm a broke ass college student now too lol. Good luck with your stuff. Are you trying to cut or bulk?

Also, if you can find out a standard dosing protocol for the 1295 with DAC let me know, I'm thinking if I could just get the bleed going it might work better for me than the pulse...less feeling like sleeping all the time and maybe slightly reduced effects...it would be better during the semester for sure

I saw this last night and I really wanted to reply but I was just freaking exhausted.

I'm cutting at the moment and because of travailing my diet has been shitty! And by that I mean so shitty that it should be called diarrhea! That is how bad my diet has been BUT I'm going to cut for two to three weeks more and then cut. Funny thing is that even with this super shitty diet I look amazing. I don't know how but I can still see my abs and yesterday...well I will tell you about my research rather than me in a sec :D

I'm PMing DAT right now and I thought using DAC would be amazing because if I'm not eating then GH is released which should help me on fat loss and it could help recover HPTA after a cycle but he said it won't. I'm going to keep talking to him and probably start pming you and we'll post our conclusion in this thread ;)

Mr.Dedication
08-10-2011, 12:15 PM
Ok so their packaging is unique. VERY unique! Other places that I had ordered peptides product from use to bobble rap my stuff and just put it in a USPS box. But Ergo doesn't do that. Here is what they do:

1) Stuff the shit out of the box!

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-6885-1312987864552.jpg

2) In the middle of the box you will find the products. Which they are warp in the plasticy stuff(Can't remember the actual names for them) and tape it very securely.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-11134-1312987887286.jpg

3) Find the product warped in a paper towel and tape very securely inside the plasticy thing.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-2036-1312987909681.jpg

4) Find the product securely laying side by side. My friends and I have placed multiple orders and never had damaged product.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-2047-1312987933337.jpg



Also you will find on the box the shipping price which is $6. The charge 95 CENTS for handling and the packaging!

Mr.Dedication
08-10-2011, 12:23 PM
They come in a 2mg vial with a green top. I mixed 2ml of bac water with it and here's what I got.

Also I need to clip my thumb! I had to do labor work and it looks disgusting. Sorry about that.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4862-1312987960108.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-6882-1312987996256.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-2058-1312988021847.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-6886-1312988049518.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4932-1312988079283.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4219-1312988201235.jpg


As soon as .100ml of bac water hit it that thing turned clear. It was freaking creepingly fast! Like I took a good hard look at it for 2-3 minutes. Even if you don't want to try out PEG MGF just order it and see how fast it mixes and it turns clear. This product is full of WINNING :yep: :p

Mr.Dedication
08-10-2011, 12:33 PM
Here's my most favorite peptide...EVER! If you want to try any peptides first this should be it. The peptide comes in a 1mg in vial with a yellow top. And here is how it mixed.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-2094-1312988227505.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4250-1312988252207.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4260-1312988276177.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-2106-1312988300780.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-2106-1312988300780.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-2189-1312988689685.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4393-1312988746784.jpg

It mixed super clear but not freakishly fast like PEG MGF. It mixed without a problem and very fast.

After reconing this peptide I gave 50mcg to the quads of my research group bilaterally. So if the product was shaddy and infected my research group would had felt it and reacted to it. The great thing is that they did NOT! No red bumps on the injection spot, no cold sweats, no going hypo. NOTHING! Zip, zero, zilch, nada! And my reasearch had one of the best workout of his life.

P.S. My research group had eaten 30 minutes before the injection and the carbs was just couple of small slices of whole grain eastern bread. No soreness or anything the next day either...can't even find the injection spot :)

DieselXT
08-10-2011, 12:34 PM
They come in a 2mg vial with a green top. I mixed 2ml of bac water with it and here's what I got.

Also I need to clip my thumb! I had to do labor work and it looks disgusting. Sorry about that.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4862-1312987960108.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-6882-1312987996256.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-2058-1312988021847.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-6886-1312988049518.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4932-1312988079283.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4219-1312988201235.jpg


As soon as .100ml of bac water hit it that thing turned clear. It was freaking creepingly fast! Like I took a good hard look at it for 2-3 minutes. Even if you don't want to try out PEG MGF just order it and see how fast it mixes and it turns clear. This product is full of WINNING :yep: :p


bro get back to me on that question lol.....

Mr.Dedication
08-10-2011, 12:39 PM
I would also like to add that these peptides were seating in my mail box for HOURS in a 115 degrees heat and still came out like this. Let me repeat that again...115 degrees HEAT!

DieselXT
08-10-2011, 12:44 PM
do you know how long a peptide can sit in the fridge reconed with out losing potency???

Dadup
08-10-2011, 12:47 PM
Another good thing about ergo, I was thinking Mr D is that the vials arent glass... one of mine fell out of the pacakge when i opened it and hit the floor, I thought it was a goner lol

DieselXT
08-10-2011, 12:48 PM
Another good thing about ergo, I was thinking Mr D is that the vials arent glass... one of mine fell out of the pacakge when i opened it and hit the floor, I thought it was a goner lol

what are they plastic??

Dadup
08-10-2011, 01:06 PM
what are they plastic??
Im pretty sure :dunno:.... sweet pea ;)

DieselXT
08-10-2011, 01:15 PM
Im pretty sure :dunno:.... sweet pea ;)

lol :flowers:

Mr.Dedication
08-10-2011, 01:17 PM
do you know how long a peptide can sit in the fridge reconed with out losing potency???

For a lot loner. I would say recon one couple of stuff use them for a month and then move on to the next vial.


Another good thing about ergo, I was thinking Mr D is that the vials arent glass... one of mine fell out of the pacakge when i opened it and hit the floor, I thought it was a goner lol

I don't know :dunno: they feel like glass though. I'm glad your peptide is ok. The one big thing that I can't get over is the $7 shipping! Like I'm flipping shit about how cheap it is...as you can tell lol.


what are they plastic??

I worked in a chem lab and these vials are made out of glass but they are super strong. I had thrown before(not the ones with peptides in it). The pay a shat load for them unless they purchase them in a massive bulk amount.

But I'll find out for you guy if it's 100% glass or not ;)

DieselXT
08-10-2011, 01:22 PM
For a lot loner. I would say recon one couple of stuff use them for a month and then move on to the next vial.



I don't know :dunno: they feel like glass though. I'm glad your peptide is ok. The one big thing that I can't get over is the $7 shipping! Like I'm flipping shit about how cheap it is...as you can tell lol.



I worked in a chem lab and these vials are made out of glass but they are super strong. I had thrown before(not the ones with peptides in it). The pay a shat load for them unless they purchase them in a massive bulk amount.

But I'll find out for you guy if it's 100% glass or not ;)

so they wont lose potency if they are there in the fridge recond for like 25 days?......

Dadup
08-10-2011, 01:24 PM
oh ok cool thx Mr D... mine were ordered friday nite, and i got them monday morning haha crazy fast shipping AND cheap

Mr.Dedication
08-10-2011, 01:59 PM
so they wont lose potency if they are there in the fridge recond for like 25 days?......

No sir ;)


oh ok cool thx Mr D... mine were ordered friday nite, and i got them monday morning haha crazy fast shipping AND cheap

Hahahaha tell me about it. I asked Phil about the vials and this is what he resonded


100% glass.....chinese glass!

The .... Chinese glass made me lol. Cause everybody hates on china while we all know that they make good products as long as we want to pay the difference in price.

Also all the vials in my labs were made in china too :yep:

Dadup
08-10-2011, 02:10 PM
oh ok cool, thx for the clarification Mr D!!! I just assumed it was plastic cause it didnt shatter everywhere lol

DieselXT
08-10-2011, 02:24 PM
No sir ;)



Hahahaha tell me about it. I asked Phil about the vials and this is what he resonded



The .... Chinese glass made me lol. Cause everybody hates on china while we all know that they make good products as long as we want to pay the difference in price.

Also all the vials in my labs were made in china too :yep:


china peptides also but people seem to really like his peptides....

TheGent
08-10-2011, 02:56 PM
I'm glad I stumbled on to this thread. Good to see Mr. D taking one for the team in the name of science. I'll be looking for your review of the folli for sure.

GarlicChicken
08-10-2011, 03:11 PM
Sweet man good to see the DES mixed clear lol. I will be placing an order with them here pretty soon.

As far as the 1295, I would think that that bleed would be better than nothing, and I would imagine that even though your pituitary is constantly releasing GH, you could shoot say 100mcg of GHRP and it should still create a pulse, and if anything, a guy would think the pulse would last longer. Think about it this way, when you shoot exogenous rHGH, your blood serum levels rise for a sustained period of time (I want to say about 10 hours). We all know exogenous GH is very effective, so why would a pulse be more effective than a constant bleed? It doesn't make any sense. Then you shoot the GHRP, and you should create a large pulse, which should maintain your high serum GH levels for a longer period of time (because of the bleed). What do you think?

Mr.Dedication
08-10-2011, 03:16 PM
oh ok cool, thx for the clarification Mr D!!! I just assumed it was plastic cause it didnt shatter everywhere lol

usually the smaller the vials are the stronger they are. So I think that's why it didn't brake :yep:


china peptides also but people seem to really like his peptides....

China makes good peptides too. That's the thing people think just because something is made in US is better. It's the quality of the products not where they are made. Except if something is made in US is easier for you to go to them and visit their plant. BTW all his folli's and ACV...are made in US.




I'm glad I stumbled on to this thread. Good to see Mr. D taking one for the team in the name of science. I'll be looking for your review of the folli for sure.

lol thanks bud! :hmn:

But right now Mr. D is crying cause I saw the price that my cycle will cost :( like for real tears came to my eyes :/

I gotta ask questions about some of this aas...gotta make a new thread.

P.S. I'm going to use PEG MGF today(forgot to give it to my rats last night) and I'm going to mix GHRP-6 and give it to my friend for his rats.

Mr.Dedication
08-15-2011, 10:28 PM
I've have had the GHRP-6 roconed for a good while now but I've just got the time to update this...so here is what I got


http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-3588-1313114585218.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-7762-1313114612767.jpg

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http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-3767-1313114807381.jpg

Mr.Dedication
08-15-2011, 10:31 PM
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4961-1313114844269.jpg



As you can see with just 1ml 10mg of GHRP-6 mixed perfectly and clearly. You guys can see it that after just adding .20ml of bac water the entire solution got mixed.

My friends rats have been giving this peptides due to the fact that the subject does not eat much at all and stays super active. I will be getting the results back soon and see how the rat has been reacting to the GHRP-6.

DieselXT
08-16-2011, 12:25 AM
can you try the hgh frag and see if it recons cloudy??

BC123Jm
08-16-2011, 12:42 AM
good thing you have nicely manicured nails with all those fucking hand shots.
I did see one cuticle that was in need of some attention though.

DieselXT
08-16-2011, 12:53 AM
good thing you have nicely manicured nails with all those fucking hand shots.
I did see one cuticle that was in need of some attention though.

and also some dried up blisters on his hands lol...to much jerking there mr ded. lol

Dadup
08-16-2011, 12:58 AM
good thing you have nicely manicured nails with all those fucking hand shots.
I did see one cuticle that was in need of some attention though.
lol he's the next George Costanza hand model :yep:

BC123Jm
08-16-2011, 01:06 AM
lol he's the next George Costanza hand model :yep:

until he gets acromegalia from all those peptides, then he's fucked.

GarlicChicken
08-16-2011, 02:24 AM
Lol at the hand modeling. Better get some oven mitts to wear around lol

Back on topic, I am glad to see the GHRP-6 recon'ed well. I really like it for the appetite stimulation. Looks like that will be going on my order from them too. Thanks for the updates big D.

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Mr.Dedication
08-17-2011, 09:49 AM
can you try the hgh frag and see if it recons cloudy??

Yes sir!


good thing you have nicely manicured nails with all those fucking hand shots.
I did see one cuticle that was in need of some attention though.

At first I forgot to clip my thumb before the pictures cause they look nasty thanks to labor work but now I'm good to go :D

If you saw my hair you would go "WTF DUDE!" :p lol


and also some dried up blisters on his hands lol...to much jerking there mr ded. lol

Deadlifts and shrugs brah...deadlifts and shrugs ;)

Mr.Dedication
08-17-2011, 09:51 AM
until he gets acromegalia from all those peptides, then he's fucked.

Thanks! Now I'm scared :/

Mr.Dedication
08-24-2011, 04:55 PM
OK so I've been threw hell lately but I'm going to update this either tonight or tomorrow. And you guys are not going to believe this. I've made these peptides go threw 110 degree temperature for hours and they are....

007malibuken
08-25-2011, 02:40 AM
hey bro just to clarify your ordered from ergopeps right? if so they got a new customer!

DieselXT
08-29-2011, 08:34 AM
ergopep was a major sponser on ProMuscle and he is no longer a sponser on there, they were caught selling fake products...

007malibuken
08-29-2011, 09:50 AM
is ergopeps who he was referring to though?

007malibuken
08-29-2011, 09:57 AM
yikes I just read a post from another forum posting lab results on ergos shit and the igf and folli was mostly salt, maybe thats why it desolved so easy lol fuck can I please find a reliable fucking pep source!!!! are there any out there!!!??????????

DieselXT
08-29-2011, 10:51 AM
yep it was ergo!

GarlicChicken
08-29-2011, 10:59 AM
I knew they were too good to be true

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Milas
08-29-2011, 12:28 PM
Damn, that sucks!

Mr.Dedication
08-29-2011, 03:35 PM
ergopep was a major sponser on ProMuscle and he is no longer a sponser on there, they were caught selling fake products...

wait what? I believe ergopeps pulled out of PM because they bought their own forum...like phil owns his own forum. They tried to become sponsored on RX like a 4-6weeks ago and RX was fine with it and then it never went through for some reason. I'm using the IGF right now...like I shot my rats in the lats and the responded very well. I have pictures on everything on my phone but the fucking thing is messed up again for the 4th time and AT&T is being a pain in the....

Where did you guys see these lab results cause I was about to order and research their folli and myo. There is pages of good results from their folli on PM and here's the weird thing other companies purchase some of their peptides, like folli and myo, from ergo and mark it up so it would be weird for just ergo to be bunk and everybody else be fine...that's why I've been using them ;)

The Big Sexy
08-29-2011, 03:52 PM
I heard Ergo lost their sponsorship to Professional Muscle because ... well, I don't know why - but I heard it was because they could not provide counter-acting evidence on the purity of their follistatin which was brought into question by an independent testing lab. Sounds suspect.

The Big Sexy
08-29-2011, 03:54 PM
ergopep was a major sponser on ProMuscle and he is no longer a sponser on there, they were caught selling fake products...

Well, that is a little more blunt way of saying what i did. LOL

yeah, some independent lab place that tests peptides and other stuff - I know the follistatin came back bunk... I also now recall something about the Des as well.

Mr.Dedication
08-29-2011, 04:34 PM
I have to see this lab cause I'm using the DES right now and it's legit. Ok so here's something about peptide companies....

a legit, LEGIT, american made igf des cost $15 to make...I shit you not! So if he is selling it for $24 that is a $9 profit on that des. So other companies that are selling it for $35-80 are making a massive amount of profit off of one thing. So the bigger companies don't like places that sell the same stuff for cheaper.

Now if a peptide company does ok they will sale close to 80-90K a month, yes in a month! One with good business sales 100k easily. Imagine the profit on that...yeah it's insane.

So if ergo was making $9 off of their des, which I truly don't know how much they were making off of it but were saying IF, and they sell lets say 60K, which could be more, why would they start selling bunk stuff?
The reason I have faith in Phil is because he has multiple businesses and he really doesn't need the peptides store. He owns his own gym and trains people and his a IFBB pro...people are probably paying him but boat load just to get trained by him.

Now this is all about their des and not their folli but like I said couple of other places purchase their folli from them and mark it up and sell it...so how come their stuff is not coming up? If ergo's folli is fake then a huge shit storm is coming up with a lot of other places having fake folli.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZ3foI85axR_jdOHbqS_t7lRMwln2a0 92yI6Y2buU2SOsBb7uv

wilderbeast
08-29-2011, 05:44 PM
At this point there is a lot of arguing back and forth between Ergo and PHF supplements over these test results. Over at ProMuscle there is a huge debate going on over whether or not the test results provided by PHF were unbiased, independent, and trully accurate. PHF has a serious vested interest in the results of the testing, and it has been brought up that PHF/IBE/Innovative pep also get their peptides synthesized by the company they used to perform their "independent" tests on Ergo and PP's products. Let's not forget they also claim PP's folli and IGF-des are fake as well.

BEAST

Mr.Dedication
08-29-2011, 08:16 PM
At this point there is a lot of arguing back and forth between Ergo and PHF supplements over these test results. Over at ProMuscle there is a huge debate going on over whether or not the test results provided by PHF were unbiased, independent, and trully accurate. PHF has a serious vested interest in the results of the testing, and it has been brought up that PHF/IBE/Innovative pep also get their peptides synthesized by the company they used to perform their "independent" tests on Ergo and PP's products. Let's not forget they also claim PP's folli and IGF-des are fake as well.

BEAST

Hey man I remember you from AM....your a cool guy! Haven't been on their for a long time...need to visit it again and say hi to all my friends. Anyways...

these labs were put up by PHF!? Are you serious!? The same guys that said transform supplements were bunk and posted a lab that their SD or some shit in one of their PH supplements was a bunk and it ended up being a lie. I don't want to diss anybody and everybody knows that I'm a nice reasonable person but PHF posts fake lab stuff all the time and it's always about somebody or someone they have a beef with. Hell the only reason I stopped purchasing stuff from PP was because their stuff start turning on, which was WAAAY after PHF posted "lab results", and when I asked why one of their employees dissed me for no reason what so ever. Me! and I was the one that made the popular here and placed all their stuff to the test. So I stopped shopping from them and went with ergo...and ergo has cheaper shipping and they prove me with a working tracking number in minutes of purchase; and they have never disrespected me or called me names.

Guys you have to remember were working and doing research in a world of chemistry. I have scales in my lab that cost $1500...do you really believe scales cost that much to make? They are glass vials and tubes that cost hundreds of dollars and when we brake them we place them in the recycle bin that was purchase by the company that made the product. So we purchase the product from them, brake it, pay them to take the broken stuff, remake the stuff out of them and steriles it, and then sell it back to us for the same couple of hundreds of dollars. Everything is marked up like an insane amount, EVERYTHING!

Do you really believe it cost GHRP and GHRH $30 to make? NO! It doesn't and if it does why would PHF want to prove that they are bunk? Why PHF isn't testing the companies that charge $80 for a bottle of DES? Isn't interesting they are always after the guys that have stuff for the best bang for the buck? Come on put two and two together.

Every way I'm a college student and broke as shit so I'm sticking with Ergo and I'm going to keep posting my results and if things start going south then I'll stop but everything has been perfect.

And yes I do have their GH Frag and is cloudy and it works but I've stopped using it cause I'm starting to go on bulk.

Mr.Dedication
08-29-2011, 08:18 PM
Jesus I just re-read my post and there is a lot of misspelled words...but I'm to lazy to fix it...sorry about that guys. Now I must go cook, workout, and then stay up till one memorizing medical terms that I'm going to forget in 4 months :(

Dadup
08-29-2011, 08:26 PM
Jesus I just re-read my post and there is a lot of misspelled words...but I'm to lazy to fix it...sorry about that guys. Now I must go cook, workout, and then stay up till one memorizing medical terms that I'm going to forget in 4 months :(
what you're saying makes sense Mr D... as always ;)

do it up big, dont pass a kidney stone over this till we have some real answers :hmn:

Mr.Dedication
08-29-2011, 08:33 PM
what you're saying makes sense Mr D... as always ;)

do it up big, dont pass a kidney stone over this till we have some real answers :hmn:

Lol thanks bro. Sorry college been killing me and the people in the gym have really pissed me off for the passed two weeks so I guess I just vented through a rant.

Man last week I got a job offer to work in a lab doing any research I want...I can chose to go and work on rats and bunnies and I'll get to inject their BRAINS and then cut their skull open and slices their brains and scan them into the computer. I'll get to shocked their brains and try their nervous system and bunch of other stuff. So I'm in the chemistry filed and I work with lab stuff all the time and I know how over priced things are.

I also have a lot of hook ups in the world of bodybuilding...like I needed power lifting stuff and john inzer personally sent me punch of stuff for free and a second autographed shirt. I also know about the dramas that happen on all, well most, of the forums so I know PHF has done stuff like this before.

GarlicChicken
08-29-2011, 08:36 PM
That was an awesome rant, and I would agree with it. Just keep your BP down lol. The more I look into this shit, the more heresy and sidedness I find. Sounds like a genuine scam to me.

Plus, if vials were filled with salt, it would be in crystalline form, and absolutely would not recon with 1 or 2mL of bac water. NaCl simply doesn't dissolve that quickly.

I'll try out ergo as well, I'll be ordering later this week. I will let people know the results of my trials with their products

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Mr.Dedication
08-29-2011, 08:45 PM
That was an awesome rant, and I would agree with it. Just keep your BP down lol. The more I look into this shit, the more heresy and sidedness I find. Sounds like a genuine scam to me.

Plus, if vials were filled with salt, it would be in crystalline form, and absolutely would not recon with 1 or 2mL of bac water. NaCl simply doesn't dissolve that quickly.

I'll try out ergo as well, I'll be ordering later this week. I will let people know the results of my trials with their products

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Thanks bro lol. I guess if I go on a cycle I'm fucked with these rants lol.

I know how they did the scam too...cause they did it the same way before. I'll give you a hint...if you look at the tracking number from the second order...it has been deleted by the person that has done the order...but the first tracking number isn't ;)

now I'm going to inject my rats with some des :p

007malibuken
08-30-2011, 01:25 AM
mr d thanks for the clarification, I will be putting ergo to the test after all. you made some very valid points, thanks again im ordering the folli this week and hopefully I can help dispell the negative rumors.

Mr.Dedication
08-30-2011, 06:05 PM
Thanks guys and no problem.

I want to know why didn't anybody think that injecting salt would sting like fuck. Like seriously if they say is salt why wouldn't sting...it's salt. I need to find the thread on PM and ask PHF couple of questions and to see what they are trying to accomplish in the bodybuilding world.

Anyways here some pics from my peptides are being hours and hours in a 111 degrees heat AND after sitting in the my suitcase for days and in a more rougher condition than the PP products were. If you remember correctly my PP des has this sperm looking thing in it and I was told that it needed to be "shaken"!

The red top one is Frag and the rest are des, cjc1295 w/o dac, and GHRP-6

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4708-1314726117230.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-5018-1314726158319.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-37898-1314726203754.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-2105-1314726239445.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/NTBM-Dedication/photobucket-4206-1314726827233.jpg

wilderbeast
09-27-2011, 12:20 PM
Hey man I remember you from AM....your a cool guy! Haven't been on their for a long time...need to visit it again and say hi to all my friends. Anyways...

these labs were put up by PHF!? Are you serious!? The same guys that said transform supplements were bunk and posted a lab that their SD or some shit in one of their PH supplements was a bunk and it ended up being a lie. I don't want to diss anybody and everybody knows that I'm a nice reasonable person but PHF posts fake lab stuff all the time and it's always about somebody or someone they have a beef with. Hell the only reason I stopped purchasing stuff from PP was because their stuff start turning on, which was WAAAY after PHF posted "lab results", and when I asked why one of their employees dissed me for no reason what so ever. Me! and I was the one that made the popular here and placed all their stuff to the test. So I stopped shopping from them and went with ergo...and ergo has cheaper shipping and they prove me with a working tracking number in minutes of purchase; and they have never disrespected me or called me names.

Guys you have to remember were working and doing research in a world of chemistry. I have scales in my lab that cost $1500...do you really believe scales cost that much to make? They are glass vials and tubes that cost hundreds of dollars and when we brake them we place them in the recycle bin that was purchase by the company that made the product. So we purchase the product from them, brake it, pay them to take the broken stuff, remake the stuff out of them and steriles it, and then sell it back to us for the same couple of hundreds of dollars. Everything is marked up like an insane amount, EVERYTHING!

Do you really believe it cost GHRP and GHRH $30 to make? NO! It doesn't and if it does why would PHF want to prove that they are bunk? Why PHF isn't testing the companies that charge $80 for a bottle of DES? Isn't interesting they are always after the guys that have stuff for the best bang for the buck? Come on put two and two together.

Every way I'm a college student and broke as shit so I'm sticking with Ergo and I'm going to keep posting my results and if things start going south then I'll stop but everything has been perfect.

And yes I do have their GH Frag and is cloudy and it works but I've stopped using it cause I'm starting to go on bulk.

Good to hear from you bro! Damn it has been a long time. I was just thinking about logging onto AM haha. See you around the block. :p

BEAST

GarlicChicken
09-27-2011, 12:55 PM
I'm glad you posted on here, as i was gonna give an update on some of the products I got from ergo. Thus far I've only used the IGF-1 lr3 and the cjc-1295 with DAC. The igf-1 is like injecting liquid fire, but man does it work good. I get vascular as hell from it, with real good pumps. I think the pain is from the binders that are used, as the lyophilized cake is rather large, especially for 1mg. It is effective though. The 1295 with dac seems to be good, I actually have more GH sides with it then I did with the mod grf. My wrists are constantly tight, and I feel more lethargic all the time, which I had gotten used to from the mod grf/ghrp. I will report on fat loss/so on later once I have been on it longer.

I will also be reporting on ghrp-6, igf 1 des, and mod grf from them. Thanks for letting me borrow your thread space Mr Ded lol

Mr.Dedication
09-28-2011, 03:44 AM
I'm glad you posted on here, as i was gonna give an update on some of the products I got from ergo. Thus far I've only used the IGF-1 lr3 and the cjc-1295 with DAC. The igf-1 is like injecting liquid fire, but man does it work good. I get vascular as hell from it, with real good pumps. I think the pain is from the binders that are used, as the lyophilized cake is rather large, especially for 1mg. It is effective though. The 1295 with dac seems to be good, I actually have more GH sides with it then I did with the mod grf. My wrists are constantly tight, and I feel more lethargic all the time, which I had gotten used to from the mod grf/ghrp. I will report on fat loss/so on later once I have been on it longer.

I will also be reporting on ghrp-6, igf 1 des, and mod grf from them. Thanks for letting me borrow your thread space Mr Ded lol

Oh that's cool bro ;)

Man I've never tried lr3 and they are having a huge sale on them now so I'm really thinking of trying it out. Like I love using DES cause my workouts go crazy insane but something tells me that I'm missing out.

When do you use lr3?

Mr.Dedication
09-28-2011, 03:48 AM
Good to hear from you bro! Damn it has been a long time. I was just thinking about logging onto AM haha. See you around the block. :p

BEAST

Yes sir! I've only been on forums for a year but right now I go around 10 forums or so.

AM mods are kind of douche bag sometimes which I don't like but the GREATEST thing that ever happened was when PP(primordial performance...not precision lol) made a huge deal out of their new PHs and then when they posted the prices with everything on their sites people started posting "WTF!" Like a huge drama broke out and later reps quit and then trama stepped down and then the new reps were spamming but even when they stopped people still bashed them and made fun of them. Greatest jokes, drama, and everything in between in the history of bodybuilding forums happened during those couple of months!

GarlicChicken
09-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Oh that's cool bro ;)

Man I've never tried lr3 and they are having a huge sale on them now so I'm really thinking of trying it out. Like I love using DES cause my workouts go crazy insane but something tells me that I'm missing out.

When do you use lr3?

Ive been using 40mcg pre workout. Vascularity is insane, and the pumps are good (great when combined with dbol). I've also been losing bodyfat, with no change in diet/cardio. It does sting like a mofo though. I'm gonna run this till its out, then the des during pct.

Good to hear from you man, you've been MIA for a while...

Mr.Dedication
09-29-2011, 02:15 AM
Ive been using 40mcg pre workout. Vascularity is insane, and the pumps are good (great when combined with dbol). I've also been losing bodyfat, with no change in diet/cardio. It does sting like a mofo though. I'm gonna run this till its out, then the des during pct.

Good to hear from you man, you've been MIA for a while...

Ok so I'm going to give it try ASAP.

Man college been raping me! But I have some evil plans that I have been working on so I need some time to figure things out. But this cycle coming up has been a huge pain in the ass!

But it's good to know that I have some friends that miss me on here :)