The Fuck It Stack!!!

[Medium Extreme]

Tired of this 200 lbs, 250 mg of test a week shit. I want 30 pounds of rip by this summer.

How do I get there?

[Dadup]

refer to your signature Medium :p

[Taylor Normandeau]

3 g's test as base
800 mg's deca
10 IU's GH
100 mg tren A daily
200 mg drol daily
10 IU's slin with breakfast, 4 Iu's with every meal, and 20 IU's postworkout
half gram crystal meth and 2.5 mcg's cheque drops pre-workout
minumum 16 oz of red meat per meal
no cardio, don't even get off the couch unless you need to eat 16 of red meat or poo
IGF into muscle being trained PRE and POST workout
500 mcg's follistatin daily

[The Big Sexy]

Please See BLP's Q/A thread. All your answers lay within.

[Dadup]

3 g's test as base
800 mg's deca
10 IU's GH
100 mg tren A daily
200 mg drol daily
10 IU's slin with breakfast, 4 Iu's with every meal, and 20 IU's postworkout
half gram crystal meth and 2.5 mcg's cheque drops pre-workout
minumum 16 oz of red meat per meal
no cardio, don't even get off the couch unless you need to eat 16 of red meat or poo
IGF into muscle being trained PRE and POST workout
500 mcg's follistatin daily
when in Rome, do as Chode Logan does

[Taylor Normandeau]

Pre-bed stack =

cap of GHB
10 grams melatonin
HGH on slow drip IV for 2 IU's per hour
Adult diaper
500 grams Casein and half a jar of natty PB

[sassy69]

Dbol, Twinkies for the 30 lb, and then you could spray paint abs on and stick on some Silly Putty ropey stick-on vascularity.

[The Big Sexy]

Dbol, Twinkies for the 30 lb, and then you could spray paint abs on and stick on some Silly Putty ropey stick-on vascularity.

I forgot also add in pizza and beer.

[Taylor Normandeau]

Twinkies are bad for you bro, use my approach

[Taylor Normandeau]

when in Rome, do as Chode Logan does

I took that exact stack out of Hany's binder for training Phil.

[Bekim Rizvani]

3 g's test as base
800 mg's deca
10 IU's GH
100 mg tren A daily
200 mg drol daily
10 IU's slin with breakfast, 4 Iu's with every meal, and 20 IU's postworkout
half gram crystal meth and 2.5 mcg's cheque drops pre-workout
minumum 16 oz of red meat per meal
no cardio, don't even get off the couch unless you need to eat 16 of red meat or poo
IGF into muscle being trained PRE and POST workout
500 mcg's follistatin daily

Make sure you pre order a new liver and kidneys for when you are done with this

[Jermo]

Hence why its called the 'fuck it' stack. Where is blp's Q&A? U mean his 18IU pharm a day thread?

[crush9]

Marathon, not a sprint. Sorry bro, its not even worth it, lol

[Jameson829]

I took that exact stack out of Hany's binder for training Phil.

You can't possibly be serious...oh just saw the crystal meth part..nm

[evser]

1-16 test e 1000mg
1-16 primo 600mg
6-16 tren ace 500mg
1-5 anadrol 50/day
15-18 halotestin/anavar
8 iu gh every day
19-on hospitalization or possibly death

[ritch]

1-16 test e 1000mg
1-16 primo 600mg
6-16 tren ace 500mg
1-5 anadrol 50/day
15-18 halotestin/anavar
8 iu gh every day
19-on hospitalization or possibly death


that stack is not that crazy and doubt any medical attention would be needed.

[Taylor Normandeau]

Make sure you pre order a new liver and kidneys for when you are done with this

Also be sure to have a nurse supervising you at all times of the day, and to pack your meth bowls so you don't burn any extra cals

[Taylor Normandeau]

that stack is not that crazy and doubt any medical attention would be needed.

It's true I know local bodybuilders who run close to that amount. And yes they still look like shit.

[evser]

Well I guess Im a pussy after all haha:dunno:

[Taylor Normandeau]

Well I guess Im a pussy after all haha:dunno:

It's still a generous dose of gear don't get me wrong, many times over what I have ever taken. But dudes run that kind of shit a lot.

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[Jermo]

1-16 test e 1000mg
1-16 primo 600mg
6-16 tren ace 500mg
1-5 anadrol 50/day
15-18 halotestin/anavar
8 iu gh every day
19-on hospitalization or possibly death

Ya that's not much of a fuck it stack, try this maybe (just go till u drop, lol, no point in cycling if its a 'fuck it stack'):

2.1g test prop/wk (3cc a day)
2.1g tren ace/wk (3cc a day)
50mg halo/day
1mg methyltrienolone/day
50mg dbol/day
100mg adrol/day
200mcg clen/day
200mcg t3/day

36iu gh/day
200iu lantus insulin/day
100mcg igf1-lr3/day
100mcg follistatin/day
100mcg ace-031/day
100mcg myo-hmp/day
200mcg peg-MGF/day

[ritch]

^^^ did you actually run all of that? Yikes at the cost...

[juiceinator3000]

^^^ did you actually run all of that? Yikes at the cost...

Did u actually ask that? Methyltrienolone has been run by like 4 people tops on here, and most couldn't make it to 2 weeks on.. And 2.1g tren A is outrageous weekly. That is truly a fuck it stack, because youll need a new set of organs after that.

[Jermo]

Haha no lmao. That's what i would call a fuck it stack, more so just from the insane orals. Personally I think everything else is doable. But no I haven't run anything like that.....yet. Maybe in a few years.

[Taylor Normandeau]

Cheque drops all damn day

[Jermo]

Tren is not necessarily that toxic, that notion exists from the fact that parabolan's ester was toxic (hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester). It is a lil toxic because it is so resistant to breakdown, but apart from that the claims are highly exagerated IMO. And if you're one of those that don't get lots of anxiety from it or sleep well then boom have fun.

[Jermo]

Cheque drops all damn day

Oh shoot I forgot about cheque drops, lol.

[juiceinator3000]

Haha no lmao. That's what i would call a fuck it stack, more so just from the insane orals. Personally I think everything else is doable. But no I haven't run anything like that.....yet. Maybe in a few years.

Make sure you keep an extra liver on ice.. Tren is toxic, I think a lot of people don't realize this. And I've never seen someone dose tren that high I wouldn't say it's doable

[Ymir]

test 1g+ / w

add 50mg dbol 100mg Anadrol ED in rotations.

Tren 300-600mg EW

EQ 500-1000mg EW

would be my shot cept i get so much backne on dbol i would swithc it to 40mg anavar + 100mg anadrol personally.

[Ymir]

Dbol, Twinkies for the 30 lb, and then you could spray paint abs on and stick on some Silly Putty ropey stick-on vascularity.

ahaha did this for my first cycles 60lb's in 18 months not quality, but gave me a good base, and yes I did 3 short cycles in those 18months.

[chris250]

1000mg test cyp or enth (or a blend like sust)
600mg deca
8 iu's hgh
humalog

train like hell, eat like crazy, rest as much as possiable...

[Ymir]

Did u actually ask that? Methyltrienolone has been run by like 4 people tops on here, and most couldn't make it to 2 weeks on.. And 2.1g tren A is outrageous weekly. That is truly a fuck it stack, because youll need a new set of organs after that.

methyrtrienolone and dimethylnandrolone are to strong to be effective atleast in my experience.

on dimethlnandrolone i used 20mcg 1 week then 40mcg fö 5 days then i threw the vial haha.

yea I got strong as fuck but felt like shit and almost tore my lats.

and if you cant sleep on tren then have fun with mt / dmn.

[heavyiron]

Test, Deca and D-bol is my fav bulker. Maybe throw some Tren in at the end.

[Jermo]

How's this for a fuck it stack, I'm currently running:

Daily
200 tren a
150 t300 (50prop,50enth,50cyp)
150 eq
15iu gh
15iu lantus (will taper up by 5iu every week to 50iu)
50mcg t3
100mcg clen
25mg aromasin
81mg aspirin

Lovin it, post comp rebound!!! Ran the tren at that dose for 9 weeks leading up to the show too. BP was between 120/70 and 130/70. Slept like a baby. And yes its legit. I just handle it very well.

[Jermo]

Although two weeks into the rebound now and I"m one puffed up monkey. Probably also bc i was doing 5iu gh daily precontest, then bumped it to 10iu daily first week post comp, then 15. That and introducing 1g test and 7k calories per day, lol. I have never seen my face this 'fat', lol.

[Spacey]

How's this for a fuck it stack, I'm currently running:

Daily
200 tren a
150 t300 (50prop,50enth,50cyp)
150 eq
15iu gh
15iu lantus (will taper up by 5iu every week to 50iu)
50mcg t3
100mcg clen
25mg aromasin
81mg aspirin

Lovin it, post comp rebound!!! Ran the tren at that dose for 9 weeks leading up to the show too. BP was between 120/70 and 130/70. Slept like a baby. And yes its legit. I just handle it very well.
Jer, that sounds intense! What are your stats?

[Jermo]

My lifts? Well I'm just two weeks off my comp so going super heavy would be asking for an injury right now. Although I already did push it a lil too much last week on the overhead tricep DB extensions with 10reps with a 125lbs DB. Needless to say my elbows were killing me the next day. And I haven't really been able to see my max for a while cause I was dieting for a show in june then bulked for 5 weeks or so then started dieting for a show early november. So I've been dieting almost 6 months now.

I competed as a light heavy at 195lbs (6ft) at my last show. Two weeks into my rebound and I'm 230lbs :s My profile pic was taken in May of this year prior to the june show (3 weeks out). I started gh for the first time ever after the june show at 2iu/day (worked my way up to 5) with some humulin r (10-20iu/day), but then had to start dieting again. I'm looking forward to the growth ahead :) Gonna take a good 18months off competing just to grow and compete as a heavy weight next time at 220lbs.

[Jermo]

And if you're wondering about my history. I'm 27 yrs old. Been bodybuilding Jan 2004. Started my first run with AAS in Jan 2010. First cycle was 500 test, 250 deca, 12 weeks total waste of time, got some bad gear and an infection.

Did some keto to get down to around 8% bf and started up a bulker again in August 2010 with 1g test, 700eq, 20dbol went great (16 weeks). Got up to 230lbs, probably 13-14% bf. Cruised for a few months at 200 test weekly cause after my last cycle I did the palumbo pct protocol and both 4 weeks and 6 weeks after pct my test levels were still below normal range (got them tested).

Then in March 2011 I started up another bulker with some t400, tren e, and adrol but after 4 weeks decided to do my first comp in June. I won't bore you with all the contest prep details but I ran a bunch of compounds between my first and second show consisting mainly of test, tren, mast, winny, epistane, var, tbol, and halo. No they were not run all at the same time. But FYI, after 23 weeks of being on orals for my first show and during my short 5 week bulker (1400test,700deca, 50dbo, 50adrol, actually ran them for 7 weeks but started to drop my cals after 5) in between the first and second show (consisting of orals like dbol, adrol, winny, epistane) my liver enzymes as of sept 1 were all good:

alk phosphatase 43 (40-129 U/L)
GGT 24 (<60 U/L)
AST 42 (<37 U/L) no big deal, only a problem if like 300
ALT 55 (<46 U/L) no big deal, only a problem if like 300

The doc asked if I had gone out drinking the night before and I was like no i don't drink but I was on oral steroids for 23 weeks, lol, he smiled. Oh and for those who consider tren to be liver toxic I was running tren at 500/wk for 15 weeks leading up to the june show. BP perfect.

[Jermo]

Here's some comparison pics of me from July 2010 and May 2011

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/picture.php?albumid=657&pictureid=6571

[Spacey]

Awesome job. Congrats! You made some major improvements over the last year, especially the quads. And at 27, you still have a lot of time to keep growing.

Thanks for sharing the detailed history. Always interesting to learn how people progress from the beginner/intro cycle to the more complex stack. You're lucky you have such a healthy liver. I have hemochromatosis (too much iron in my blood) so I could never run orals for that long. I used to give blood to keep my iron levels low, but they don't let you donate if you use injectables, so it's not an option any more :(

Good luck on your future bb career!

[juiceinator3000]

Awesome job. Congrats! You made some major improvements over the last year, especially the quads. And at 27, you still have a lot of time to keep growing.

Thanks for sharing the detailed history. Always interesting to learn how people progress from the beginner/intro cycle to the more complex stack. You're lucky you have such a healthy liver. I have hemochromatosis (too much iron in my blood) so I could never run orals for that long. I used to give blood to keep my iron levels low, but they don't let you donate if you use injectables, so it's not an option any more :(

Good luck on your future bb career!
Dude you have to tell them that you inject.. Otherwise they don't know. They only test for diseases

[Spacey]

Dude you have to tell them that you inject.. Otherwise they don't know. They only test for diseases

Yeah, I am not sure if it's safe, though. Maybe they can't use the blood if it has crazy amounts of testosterone floating around in it? But, on the other hand, someone told me that they basically put the blood in a centifuge and separate out the plasma and the red and white blood cells, so maybe they filter everything else out? :dunno: I really don't understand how it works.

[juiceinator3000]

They are really only worried about potential diseases. Injections get a bad rap for good reason. Most people are not very sanitary when it comes down to it. If you really need to get rid of blood make friends with a tech ;)

[Jermo]

Awesome job. Congrats! You made some major improvements over the last year, especially the quads. And at 27, you still have a lot of time to keep growing.

Thanks for sharing the detailed history. Always interesting to learn how people progress from the beginner/intro cycle to the more complex stack. You're lucky you have such a healthy liver. I have hemochromatosis (too much iron in my blood) so I could never run orals for that long. I used to give blood to keep my iron levels low, but they don't let you donate if you use injectables, so it's not an option any more :(

Good luck on your future bb career!

Thanks Spacey! Sorry to hear about your hemochromatosis.

[Spacey]

They are really only worried about potential diseases. Injections get a bad rap for good reason. Most people are not very sanitary when it comes down to it. If you really need to get rid of blood make friends with a tech ;)
I think I'm pretty sanitary--I only use the same needle about three times, and I sometimes even wash my hands :p -- so I doubt that there would be a problem if I did donate. But I don't want to risk causing a problem for the recipient. Since it's a medical condition, I can make an appointment with my doc to do a phlebotomy (they draw blood in the hospital, but throw it away), but that requires blood tests first, and then he asks a million questions. I do it about once a year now, but if I took orals, I'd need to do it like every three months. Since I'm not competing, it isn't worth it to me. But if I meet the right tech, especially a cute one, I am following your plan. lol ;)


Thanks Spacey! Sorry to hear about your hemochromatosis. Thanks, but now worries, it's really not so bad. I just need to monitor it. And it only means I have to give up orals. Injectables haven't caused a problem :)

[chemuk]

15 ius gh , that's a bit much for someone with no disrespect bro little muscle tissue ,I was only one 5 max , when I was 91kgs ripped at 5 ft 2 "

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[Jermo]

15 ius gh , that's a bit much for someone with no disrespect bro little muscle tissue ,I was only one 5 max , when I was 91kgs ripped at 5 ft 2 "

That's great that 5iu's worked so well for you but personally I felt nothing at 5iu's (other than fat loss). 10iu's I finally started feeling the tingling hands and such and at 15iu's I'm pumped all day, even in the morning. And from several national level competitors I know and forum members who's opinions I really respect and find to be honest, they all seem to agree that muscle growth doesn't really occur until around 10iu's. I think there's even a study out there somewhere that shows something like that too, I'll try and find it and post it here. You are one beefy 5'2 tho, keep up the good work! How old are you btw?

[Jermo]

Biosynthetic human growth hormone preserves both muscle protein synthesis and the decrease in muscle-free glutamine, and improves whole-body nitrogen economy after operation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1242590/

used 0.3iu/kg/day (27iu for a 90kg person!)

Anabolic therapy with growth hormone accelerates protein gain in surgical patients requiring nutritional rehabilitation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1242991/

used 0.14mg/kg/day or 0.42iu/kg/day (38iu for a 90kg person)

Effects of HGH in men over 60 years old
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199007053230101

used 0.03mg/kg/day or 0.09iu/kg/day for 6 months (8iu for a 90kg person), note that this was for 6 months and an 8.8% increase in lbm was observed but this is for old geezers lol and that's still 8ius.

RECOMBINANT HGH IN PATIENTS WITH HIV ASSOCIATED WASTING
http://www.annals.org/content/125/11/873.short

used 0.1mg/kg/day or 0.3iu/kg/day (27iu for a 90kg person)

Comparison of the anaboliic effects and comparison of hgh and anavar after severe burn injury
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305417998001594

again 0.1mg/kg (27ius)

and so on and so forth, most studies seem to utilize doses between 0.5mg and 0.1mg/kg/day (which is like 13 to 27ius for a 90kg person). And yes I'm aware that these are for burn victims, hgh deficient persons, and hiv patients but the doses required for anabolic activity are still relevant. I'm still looking for more relevant studies, if anyone knows of any good ones feel free to chime in.

In the end I guess all these studies aren't as important as real world experience and seeing what works for you. So I guess check my profile in 6 months and see how I look then lol.

[eat,train,grow]

Pre-bed stack =

cap of GHB
10 grams melatonin
HGH on slow drip IV for 2 IU's per hour
Adult diaper
500 grams Casein and half a jar of natty PB


That is hilarious!!!!!!

[BigBA]

lmfao That is one hell of a stack.. make sure you have an organ donor ready for you