Clitoral Hypertrophy

[Sistersteel]

**Anonymous poster poses a very interesting question to the ladies:**

Does a chemically induced enlarged clitoris enhance the sexual experience, add nothing to it, or become a problem (especially sensitivity during everyday activity)?

Discuss the pros and cons of clitoral hypertrophy.



SS

[sassy69]

Aside from just being "OK" w/ the size increase, I just really can't see a downside....

[Sistersteel]

Downside for me would be the tip rubbing against my lace panties. So no panties for me.





....wait...that's not a downside. lol

[sassy69]

Downside for me would be the tip rubbing against my lace panties. So no panties for me.


....wait...that's not a downside. lol


I wanna know how many guys just shot a load reading that....

[Sistersteel]

I wanna know how many guys just shot a load reading that....

LMFAO!!

Oh my I honestly do not know what possesses me at this witching hour. It's the truth though..

[BudTheBuilder]

My God I never came in here before but I wish I had of now these threads are better than the rest.

Now sistersteel's comments..............well! My day just got a whole lot more erotic :D

[Sistersteel]

My God I never came in here before but I wish I had of now these threads are better than the rest.

Now sistersteel's comments..............well! My day just got a whole lot more erotic :D


When did SS become everyone's cup of tea? lol

[sassy69]

When did SS become everyone's cup of tea? lol

Toldya!

[Sistersteel]

Toldya!


Must be my new shoes. lol

[BudTheBuilder]

When did SS become everyone's cup of tea? lol


to be honest I have not seen much of you around her because I stay in 2 or 3 threads sad I know lol, but when I seen this thread and then your pic I was like well hello there SS!!!

so yeah pretty much today you became my cup of tea lol.

[Sistersteel]

to be honest I have not seen much of you around her because I stay in 2 or 3 threads sad I know lol, but when I seen this thread and then your pic I was like well hello there SS!!!

so yeah pretty much today you became my cup of tea lol.


Must be a full moon. :angel:

[Skeptic]

I wanna know how many guys just shot a load reading that....

Well a stiff woody ensued.

(Slinks off to the bathroom)

[buckimscl]

Nah Sis, it is the shoes!

[RealLilSwole]

Ditto sistersteel on the lace panties. I just can't stand them anymore. LOL!

[tammyp]

it makes sex 100 times better and orgasms are off the hook.:)

[Sistersteel]

Ok here it is folks...the only drug I ever ran that increased the size of my little lady was test. That bitch got HUGE. She was such a slut too, always wanting to be naked, always wanting to be stroked, always wanting to rub up against something. When she anticipated getting fondled she grew hard and erect and was extremely sensitive to the touch after she came.

I was not kidding about the lace panties, they rubbed her raw!

On a more serious note, Test alone was not enough to "increase" my sex drive, it only increased "sensitivity". I tried a certain combo once that was literally out of control, I mean what it did to my sex drive was scary. Straight test never did that to me.

I was a little scared about the swelling down there. Little lady was jacked and looking like road kill...not sexy. I am happy to inform everyone that excessive swelling is indeed reversible. It will never shrink back to the size of a pea, but it certainly is not any larger than that right now. Cute rose bud replaces road kill. lol

SS

[Skeptic]

This thread needs to move to the Adult section. ;)

[Tatyana]

This thread needs to move to the Adult section. ;)

There is a thread related to this topic in 18+.

I think a serious discussion of clitoral hypertrophy without the porn factor is long overdue.

Lads, please keep it in your pants in this section.

Ta.

[SallyAnne]

There is a thread related to this topic in 18+.

I think a serious discussion of clitoral hypertrophy without the porn factor is long overdue.

Lads, please keep it in your pants in this section.

Ta.

lol

I'm amused at how the thread title immediately drew in all the men.

[Tatyana]

lol

I'm amused at how the thread title immediately drew in all the men.

I think they are looking for pointers to see if they can have their little men grow as well.

:)

[SallyAnne]

Ok here it is folks...the only drug I ever ran that increased the size of my little lady was test. That bitch got HUGE. She was such a slut too, always wanting to be naked, always wanting to be stroked, always wanting to rub up against something. When she anticipated getting fondled she grew hard and erect and was extremely sensitive to the touch after she came.

I was not kidding about the lace panties, they rubbed her raw!

On a more serious note, Test alone was not enough to "increase" my sex drive, it only increased "sensitivity". I tried a certain combo once that was literally out of control, I mean what it did to my sex drive was scary. Straight test never did that to me.

I was a little scared about the swelling down there. Little lady was jacked and looking like road kill...not sexy. I am happy to inform everyone that excessive swelling is indeed reversible. It will never shrink back to the size of a pea, but it certainly is not any larger than that right now. Cute rose bud replaces road kill. lol

SS

Agreed. I also freaked out the first time it happened and was relieved to find that the swelling goes away. I know, though - that there is a difference between 'swelling' and 'growth'.

[Tatyana]

Ok here it is folks...the only drug I ever ran that increased the size of my little lady was test. That bitch got HUGE. She was such a slut too, always wanting to be naked, always wanting to be stroked, always wanting to rub up against something. When she anticipated getting fondled she grew hard and erect and was extremely sensitive to the touch after she came.

I was not kidding about the lace panties, they rubbed her raw!

On a more serious note, Test alone was not enough to "increase" my sex drive, it only increased "sensitivity". I tried a certain combo once that was literally out of control, I mean what it did to my sex drive was scary. Straight test never did that to me.

I was a little scared about the swelling down there. Little lady was jacked and looking like road kill...not sexy. I am happy to inform everyone that excessive swelling is indeed reversible. It will never shrink back to the size of a pea, but it certainly is not any larger than that right now. Cute rose bud replaces road kill. lol

SS

There is absolutely no evidence in medical literature that testosterone will increase a woman's sex drive.

There have been numerous double blind clinical trials as well.

I was doing a little bit of research as many men think that giving their partners steroids will sort out libido issues.

I do wonder when women take anabolics how much of the increased sex drive is due to the placebo effect, they think their sex drive will increase so it does.

This is the other issue with female sexuality; until around 1970s, it was thought that female libido and sexual response was either non-existant or like men's, just diminished.

This isn't the case, and one interesting thing that was discovered around this time is that what most people consider to be the clitoris is really only the tip of the iceberg, literally, with regard to female erectile tissue.

We have close to the same amount as men, it is just internal.

I found this quite shocking considering how many cadaveric dissections have been performed over the centuries.

I guess it is that old adage, if you are not looking for it, or have a preconceived notion, you are just not going to find it, bias scanning in psychology terms.

[sassy69]

When we talk about "sex drive" its definitely different than the way men think of it. But I wonder if the increase in sensitivity approximates the way guys experience "sex drive" because it is much more of a physical thing than the mental / emotional thing that usually drives women.

[esplendido]

A man's sex drive is not purely physical. It's not like, "hey! I've got a boner. I need to find a woman!" The sex drive for men starts as a mental/emotional exercise and translates into a sensation in the groin area in general. It then becomes an impulse to "hunt and seek" out satisfaction.

The clitoris is multiple times more sensative than the head of a man's penis, both having the glans, or the nerve that causes orgasm. A man's penis rubs up against his underware, pants, etc without sensativity issues. I can imagine how irritating it would be to have an enlarged, exposed clitoris rubbing against a rough surface like lace panties.

The erectile tissue of the female anatomy, as Tatyana points out, only begins at the clitoris, and actually splits into two branches, semi-circumventing the vagina....sort of like the head of a pair of pliers. This is why orgasm with something IN the vagina is usually more intense than orgasm by clitoral stimulation alone.

Question: does an erect, enlarged clit feel stiff and erect to the woman, like an erection does for a man. As a point of reference, a man's erection is felt all the way to the anus, because the structure of the penis goes past the scrotum to just ahead of the anus. Can a woman feel her erection into the vagina?

[SallyAnne]

A man's sex drive is not purely physical. It's not like, "hey! I've got a boner. I need to find a woman!" The sex drive for men starts as a mental/emotional exercise and translates into a sensation in the groin area in general. It then becomes an impulse to "hunt and seek" out satisfaction.

The clitoris is multiple times more sensative than the head of a man's penis, both having the glans, or the nerve that causes orgasm. A man's penis rubs up against his underware, pants, etc without sensativity issues. I can imagine how irritating it would be to have an enlarged, exposed clitoris rubbing against a rough surface like lace panties.

The erectile tissue of the female anatomy, as Tatyana points out, only begins at the clitoris, and actually splits into two branches, semi-circumventing the vagina....sort of like the head of a pair of pliers. This is why orgasm with something IN the vagina is usually more intense than orgasm by clitoral stimulation alone.

Question: does an erect, enlarged clit feel stiff and erect to the woman, like an erection does for a man. As a point of reference, a man's erection is felt all the way to the anus, because the structure of the penis goes past the scrotum to just ahead of the anus. Can a woman feel her erection into the vagina?

I can't. lol Sounds interesting. :)

[AndroGrrL]

I can't. lol Sounds interesting. :)

lol I cannot either...although the last time someone was down there...wow. I was quite speechless...not as his skills...but at how filled with blood it was...crazy swelling was going on...imagine how upsetting it was when he quit 1/2way into it...FML.

But honestly, other than it scaring off a guy...I don't see any cons. I'm quite a fan...if it so chooses to grow slightly larger...this girl won't complain :) Mine is mainly a result of winny...test made me want to go on a raping rampage with any guy that I found attractive but didn't really make it any bigger...winny doesn't make me want to jump no guys...just makes the clitty grow.

[sassy69]

RE: test & sex drive, wouldn't you expect that impact to be dependent upon natural levels to begin w/? If you're already low test / low sex drive, wouldn't you expect a dramatic effect?

[Tatyana]

RE: test & sex drive, wouldn't you expect that impact to be dependent upon natural levels to begin w/? If you're already low test / low sex drive, wouldn't you expect a dramatic effect?

There really is no evidence that testosterone increases sex drive in women. This has been tried for forty years and it is still controversial for treatment of low libido.

It seems only is applicable is complete hysterectomies in pre-menopausal women, and then it is more like HRT.

What is low anyway? The reference range is 0.4-3.5 pmol/L, is is a fraction of the male reference range of 10-35 pmol/L.


The only hormonal issues seem to be with hyperprolactinaemia (high prolactin) and possible issues with lutenising hormone, and of course, diabetes, which can also affect men with things like erectile dysfunction.

[Sistersteel]

There really is no evidence that testosterone increases sex drive in women. This has been tried for forty years and it is still controversial for treatment of low libido.

It seems only is applicable is complete hysterectomies in pre-menopausal women, and then it is more like HRT.

What is low anyway? The reference range is 0.4-3.5 pmol/L, is is a fraction of the male reference range of 10-35 pmol/L.


The only hormonal issues seem to be with hyperprolactinaemia (high prolactin) and possible issues with lutenising hormone, and of course, diabetes, which can also affect men with things like erectile dysfunction.

The only link I have ever come across in my research between the female libido and testosterone is that both low and high levels of the hormone can lead to depression in women. That almost always results in decreased libido. Test has shown to increase libido, however this is all still in theory because there is little research on all the other variables at work. Estrogen and progesterone could very well play a role in all this. A woman's sex drive is very dependent on the harmonious interaction of all hormones as well as her emotional, physical and psychological state.

[Tatyana]

The only link I have ever come across in my research between the female libido and testosterone is that both low and high levels of the hormone can lead to depression in women. That almost always results in decreased libido. Test has shown to increase libido, however this is all still in theory because there is little research on all the other variables at work. Estrogen and progesterone could very well play a role in all this. A woman's sex drive is very dependent on the harmonious interaction of all hormones as well as her emotional, physical and psychological state.

Exactly.

I think the issue with libido, male or female also needs to consider exactly what is normal? For some reason we have pathologised people who don't have the sex drive of porn stars.

This is not scientific, but the Kama Sutra does state that there are three different levels of sex drive (as well as three sizes of lingams and punanis) and that the sex drive as well as the organs have to be compatible for a well-matched relationship.

There does seem to be so much information about low libido, and claims like 40-60% of women have low sex drive and the solution offered most of the time is testosterone.

This really is making the assumption that men have a higher sex drive than women (which isn't always true), that as men have more testosterone sex drive = testosterone, when men have their testosterone levels decrease they have a lower sex drive, therefore it must be the same for women.

I suspect it is far more complicated than that, and as long as the studies only focus on testosterone, we are really not going to get any other answers, or solutions.

[tight booty]

Even though I don't contribute to this thread, I want you Ladies to know that I really enjoy reading this forum. It is very educational and SisterSteel has a way with words which I love.

[Sledge]

Sorry to post here ladys.

It's good to hear all the positive comments from the ladys regarding their increased size whether temporary or permanent.

In fact the only negative comments I've heard about Clitoral hypertrophy Are from men who don't like or who are uncomfortable about the way it looks.
(should clitoral have a capital C, it seems like it should)

Is their ANY negatives besides the insecurity of some men to an enlarged Clit.

[Sledge]

cocaine increases sex drive in women .....


I thought cocaine increased sensation of stimulation in both men and women. Not an increase in overall sex drive. I would think that a woman would be in a pretty sexy frame of mind to be using coke as a sex aid to start with.

Would you also say alcohol increases sex drive or does it just lower judgment and inhibitions.

Or are you another troll and were not really trying to benefit this thread with your astounding knowledge.

[sizematters270]

[quote=Tatyana;192649]There really is no evidence that testosterone increases sex drive in women. This has been tried for forty years and it is still controversial for treatment of low libido.



i have to disagree on this one..a couple of yrs ago my partner used 25mgs/wk of test prop & her sex drive went thru the roof...lucky i was like a rabbit at that time as well...we would have sex 2/3 times a day 7 days a wk & this went on for about 6 wks.... so it was quite a bit of a jump from the once or twice a wk i was used to...:D:nbanana:;)

[Tatyana]

There really is no evidence that testosterone increases sex drive in women. This has been tried for forty years and it is still controversial for treatment of low libido.




i have to disagree on this one..a couple of yrs ago my partner used 25mgs/wk of test prop & her sex drive went thru the roof...lucky i was like a rabbit at that time as well...we would have sex 2/3 times a day 7 days a wk & this went on for about 6 wks.... so it was quite a bit of a jump from the once or twice a wk i was used to...:D:nbanana:;)

One case study does not confer scientific evidence.

It is great that it worked for her, however, this could be the placebo effect.

Women who have been given a placebo in testosterone replacement therapy experienced increased libido, without the testosterone.

I am not saying testosterone is not going to work in some women, it may do, however it appears that the female libido is not the same as male libido, and testosterone replacement does not work in all women.

There are other issues as well, for example testosterone is a notoriously difficult analyte to measure, it is fraught with error, the same applies to SHBG. Some clinicians and scientists have referred to these two assays as 'random number generators'.

Combining these two assays, SHBG and testosterone with a calculation is the basis of free testosterone in the vast majority of labs, so I wouldn't rely on it.

So many people think this is a direct measurement of testosterone, and it isn't, in fact it doubles the chances of error.

At the lower levels of testosterone, which women physiologically have, multiply the difficulty in measurement by 100.

The second issue is that some women do have more side effects from testosterone, and when on TRT in women, it isn't like a cycle.

They don't want to continue with TRT when they get acne or increased hair growth.

[Sistersteel]

Even though I don't contribute to this thread, I want you Ladies to know that I really enjoy reading this forum. It is very educational and SisterSteel has a way with words which I love.

Why thank you my lady :)

[Tre]

I'm amused at how the thread title immediately drew in all the men.
Absolutely - I like the word 'hypertrophy'.

[Ibarramedia]

Absolutely - I like the word 'hypertrophy'.

Tre' what's up bro?

[graybass]

I don't have the research on hand but I do have some personal experience. (Phizer did research on the "Female Viagra" and said Test was the most effective on increasing female libido, but the FDA said it was too dangerous even though in the dosages they studied showed no sides)

My X-GF started taking 100mg Deca and 25mg Test Enan EW. Her sex drive went completely crazy!! Placebo, Impossible! As soon as she came off, back to normal. While on her clit got a little bigger. That was the only sides besides the killer sex drive. I'm telling you it was the most fun I ever had sexually in my life.
BTW, she could only wear the silkiest, smoothest panties.:D
GB

[exit2010]

WE actually have been quite pleased with the hypertrophy. It seemed that deca really added the growth whereas test just adds swelling.

[mrsmott]

well after reading this thread I hope running the EQ will swell up my clitty.:p

[sassy69]

well after reading this thread I hope running the EQ will swell up my clitty.:p

It will.

[exit2010]

but will it last beyond the cycle? i would like to know is what has helped the growth be permanent not just while on.

[tammyp]

well after reading this thread I hope running the EQ will swell up my clitty.:p

and plan on being as horny as a three peckered billy goat.

[sassy69]

but will it last beyond the cycle? i would like to know is what has helped the growth be permanent not just while on.


There's a point where continued use / abuse will make it more permanent but the effect is primarily due to presence of DHT. So when the compound detection time window has passed, the effect is normally gone.

[exit2010]

Okay thank you, Sassy69 and SisterSteel. . . looks like the EQ I just got is going to her instead of me. LOL

[Anthony]

I got a question sort of on topic - does exogenous test cause a woman's ovaries to atrophy like a man's testes? Or do the ovaries try to comensate with more estrogen and cause the ovaries to grow?

[esplendido]

There's a point where continued use / abuse will make it more permanent but the effect is primarily due to presence of DHT. So when the compound detection time window has passed, the effect is normally gone.

Now they know why Deca, Winstrol, Anavar, anadrol, and Masteron produce the enlarged clits. They're all DHT derived to stem aromatization.

[sassy69]

I got a question sort of on topic - does exogenous test cause a woman's ovaries to atrophy like a man's testes? Or do the ovaries try to comensate with more estrogen and cause the ovaries to grow?

Ovaries can produce estrogen directly, exogenous test is going to convert by aromatization. There is also a small amount of estrogen produced by aromatization of androgens produced by the adrenals as well. I don't think the two are related because for ex, I haven't come across any research that says adrenal test production increases to balance presence of estrogen after the ovaries stop producing estrogen (i.e. menopause). The adrenal estrogen becomes the dominant source of estrogen but I don't know if there is some sort of "estrogen monitor" in the body that would "measure" both ovarian and adrenal converted estrogen.

[exit2010]

Ovaries can produce estrogen directly, exogenous test is going to convert by aromatization. There is also a small amount of estrogen produced by aromatization of androgens produced by the adrenals as well. I don't think the two are related because for ex, I haven't come across any research that says adrenal test production increases to balance presence of estrogen after the ovaries stop producing estrogen (i.e. menopause). The adrenal estrogen becomes the dominant source of estrogen but I don't know if there is some sort of "estrogen monitor" in the body that would "measure" both ovarian and adrenal converted estrogen.


you had me at ovaries.;)

[toxic Avenger]

Now they know why Deca, Winstrol, Anavar, anadrol, and Masteron produce the enlarged clits. They're all DHT derived to stem aromatization.
Opps nandrolone is not a DHT derivative.

[esplendido]

Opps nandrolone is not a DHT derivative.
Correct. My mistake.

[LookImDancinCrazy!]

After cycle does the newly heightened sensitivity disappear or is it mostly a function of the new size and remains more or less permanent?

[Sistersteel]

After cycle does the newly heightened sensitivity disappear or is it mostly a function of the new size and remains more or less permanent?


Sensitivity decreases when you drop the gear.

[sassy69]

Sensitivity decreases when you drop the gear.

As the stuff clears your body - think primarily steroid half-life thru trailling out to detection time.

[LookImDancinCrazy!]

So it sounds like it could be a while before I discover what the new baseline will be.

[Sistersteel]

So it sounds like it could be a while before I discover what the new baseline will be.

New baseline? You lost me..

[LookImDancinCrazy!]

New baseline? You lost me..


I wrote "disappear" and you responded "decrease" so I inferred you meant it'd drop back, but not to the pre-cycle level.

[Sistersteel]

I wrote "disappear" and you responded "decrease" so I inferred you meant it'd drop back, but not to the pre-cycle level.


True. It never drops back to what it was pre-cycle, especially with the harsher compounds.

[BigBilly]

Downside for me would be the tip rubbing against my lace panties. So no panties for me.





....wait...that's not a downside. lol
sounds sexy.. i wouldnt mind to try a girl with a big one

[esplendido]

sounds sexy.. i wouldnt mind to try a girl with a big one

Can the women have a decent thread without horndogs like you sticking your foot in your mouth and acting like a ass?

Start your own "I wanna big clit to suck on" thread in the 18 and 0ver Forum and keep your learing out of here. Shit!

[TheMrs]

I have found some sensitivity. Like the slightest rub in my jeans can send me orgasmic. I would not say my drive has increased but the need for release has. Since mt doses are low12mg test prop eod, the sensation is is heavy within the first 12 hours then backs down. Hubby and I have enjoyed more frequent intense sessions with more intense orgasms for me. We were frequent before the addition of gear as I like it and apparently so does he.:p So no down side for me as of yet.

[gman]

Women are so lucky.

[KBigz81]

Any of you ladies have a favorite pair of panties for this problem? I was thinking Body by Victoria but they are 3/$25.

[SuperSnake]

I know Tat will say there's no evidence but from my wife's experience, just 5mg daily of test base aka TNE, turned her into a raging maniac. I never complain. Same with even the tiniest amount of winny.

But she's always been extremely sensitive to anything but anavar so any cycle she's done in the past aside from anavar has been very short...like 2 weeks max so the sides don't get out of control.

As far as her little lady goes, she says the increased size has made her's less sensitive to stimulation than before. She has to get a bit rough with it nowadays. :)

[Kate1]

I wanna know how many guys just shot a load reading that....
:lmao:

I was wondering the same thing!

[MAINEVENT]

I wanna know how many guys just shot a load reading that....

LMAO....very true.

[fitbody]

There is absolutely no evidence in medical literature that testosterone will increase a woman's sex drive.

There have been numerous double blind clinical trials as well.

I was doing a little bit of research as many men think that giving their partners steroids will sort out libido issues.

I do wonder when women take anabolics how much of the increased sex drive is due to the placebo effect, they think their sex drive will increase so it does.

This is the other issue with female sexuality; until around 1970s, it was thought that female libido and sexual response was either non-existant or like men's, just diminished.

This isn't the case, and one interesting thing that was discovered around this time is that what most people consider to be the clitoris is really only the tip of the iceberg, literally, with regard to female erectile tissue.

We have close to the same amount as men, it is just internal.

I found this quite shocking considering how many cadaveric dissections have been performed over the centuries.

I guess it is that old adage, if you are not looking for it, or have a preconceived notion, you are just not going to find it, bias scanning in psychology terms.


these 2 bolded parts above are absolutely ridiculous
and absolutely where written by someone with no experience in this matter
i can honestly say that fuckin' rights testosterone & other anabolics increase sex drive
different drugs have different effects for sure
and dosage plays a large role too
i just done doing 6 weeks on fuckin' deca i'm insanely horny
deca is 2nd only to test to how horny it makes me
and now i'm on primo which is probably # 3 in how horny it makes me
now naturally i'm very horny
but the drugs i do
and the dosage i take has a huge effect on my sex drive

[fitbody]

**Anonymous poster poses a very interesting question to the ladies:**

Does a chemically induced enlarged clitoris enhance the sexual experience, add nothing to it, or become a problem (especially sensitivity during everyday activity)?

Discuss the pros and cons of clitoral hypertrophy.



SS


steriods for sure enlarge my clit
before it was so small it was non-exsistant
not only did it grow
but it made sex waaaaaaaaay better !
sex is better, orgasms are un-fucking-believable

now can be become a problem
well right now i'm fuckin' full on
and i'm horny as hell
and have no boyfriend
so it's a bit of a problem sorta, cuz i'm very good at gettin myself to orgasm
so i can take care of myself, but its much more fun having someone to play with

yrs ago when i was on test it was so bad that sometimes when i was walking
i'd have to stop cuz my clit was rubbing between my lips & causing me...
how should i put it ?????????? extreme sensitivity, so this was a bitta a problem
during that part of my power career only time on straight test, long story...

[Quadsweep]

Can the women have a decent thread without horndogs like you sticking your foot in your mouth and acting like a ass?

Start your own "I wanna big clit to suck on" thread in the 18 and 0ver Forum and keep your learing out of here. Shit!HAHAHAHAHAH! That was awesome!I like a big ol clit! Rita gets off so fast and so hard and so often when on I feel like da man 100% of the time! Hers goes back down post cycle always. I don't want a clit I have to send a search party out for! I want one that says "hey dude! Suck me!"

jeff

[SuperSnake]

...and for my next very important question...

Does the clit keep getting bigger and bigger with each cycle?

Or does it just get to a certain size and then just fluctuate with each cycle?

[tammyp]

tell us how you really feel jeff!:)

[sassy69]

...and for my next very important question...

Does the clit keep getting bigger and bigger with each cycle?

Or does it just get to a certain size and then just fluctuate with each cycle?

I don't know about bigger & bigger .. but each time your compound(s) clear the driver is no longer there, and just like sensitivity or your hair falling out, it kinda goes back to normal. Extensively repeated or heavy cycles may leave it more permanently "bigger".

[flaccid_member]

...

Fitbody needs a man to help her out. Sad when she can't find a vict.., er, volunteer.

[fitbody]

...and for my next very important question...

Does the clit keep getting bigger and bigger with each cycle?

Or does it just get to a certain size and then just fluctuate with each cycle?


in my experience NO
but then i've had long periods of time totally off crank like years
i measured it for a guy who wanted to know how big it was in 18 & over thread
it is currently just over an inch
so i will monitor this just for you ;)
currently on primo
after being on deca for 6 wks
will keep you posted

[fitbody]

HAHAHAHAHAH! That was awesome!I like a big ol clit! Rita gets off so fast and so hard and so often when on I feel like da man 100% of the time! Hers goes back down post cycle always. I don't want a clit I have to send a search party out for! I want one that says "hey dude! Suck me!"

jeff


you are a smart man
i just went thru all this on my 18 & over thread
check out my post # 959 here's the link; http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?t=21624&page=32

i posted a pic of a larger clit and this guy didn't know what it was
post # 957

also check posts # 954 & 961 on this topic
all same link

[fitbody]

Fitbody needs a man to help her out. Sad when she can't find a vict.., er, volunteer.

actually i'm fuckin awesome at gettin myself off
finding someone to fuck is not the problem
thatz easy
trying to find the RIGHT MAN is the issue
i'm holding out this time
i'm sick of having the emptiness
i'm lookin for more at this point in my life
at least gonna give it a try
until then it's me & my dildo
at least i got the technique down pat ;)

[pebble]

I recently went on M-Drol, a version of Superdrol, and mine got very big. Seemed to protrude a bit. I stopped the cycle last week and it seems to go down slowly.
I've tried Anavar and Epistane in the past. Anavar I got a bit of swelling. Epistane didn't seem to do much down there for me.
Sex drive increased on Var and S Drol but it didn't make me into a raging lunatic. Overall I am very happy because after being on, I can reach climax in positions I couldn't climax previously.

[heavyiron]

I recently went on M-Drol, a version of Superdrol, and mine got very big. Seemed to protrude a bit. I stopped the cycle last week and it seems to go down slowly.
I've tried Anavar and Epistane in the past. Anavar I got a bit of swelling. Epistane didn't seem to do much down there for me.
Sex drive increased on Var and S Drol but it didn't make me into a raging lunatic. Overall I am very happy because after being on, I can reach climax in positions I couldn't climax previously.
S-drol is pretty harsh. Are you planning on getting labs? I imagine your liver enzymes with be very high and your HDL will be crushed. You may need to consider using support supps if you haven't already.

[pebble]

I took Milk Thistle. I was on 10mg ED for just 3 weeks. I kinda freaked out when I felt how much my clit started to protrude and stopped straight away.
I will take your advice and get everything checked by a doctor. But I want to wait a bit for the gear to clear out and for my body to normalise before the blood work and check up. I don't want the doctor to know what I have been taking.
Overall the S Drol was not as bad as the horror stories I heard. Other than the clit growth, I can't say I experienced any negative sides.
Thank you for your concern!
By the way, any suggestions on how to get my doctor to give me a legal prescription of testosterone gel to try?

[partsRheavy]

Check out LifeExtension or AnyLabTestNow for blood work. I believe it's best to keep this away from one's insurance/personal M.D.

I'd love to know which M.D.'s would 'script anavar or test gel to a gal but haven't heard of any....

[tammyp]

you are not going to see muscle gains with test gel. at least from what i understand.

[GirlyMuscle]

Yeah, I think test gel can give you mild sides but nothing as far as muscle gain.

[musclemilf]

Test gel is usually scripted by a doctor for menopausal women with libido issues. You can buy something like androgel from a particular UK online pharmacy without a script.

[heavyiron]

Depends on the potency of the gel. They compound a 20% cream that would be quite potent for a lady. However I would steer towards anavar or something less androgenic for females who have a lower risk threshold.

[heavyiron]

I took Milk Thistle. I was on 10mg ED for just 3 weeks. I kinda freaked out when I felt how much my clit started to protrude and stopped straight away.
I will take your advice and get everything checked by a doctor. But I want to wait a bit for the gear to clear out and for my body to normalise before the blood work and check up. I don't want the doctor to know what I have been taking.
Overall the S Drol was not as bad as the horror stories I heard. Other than the clit growth, I can't say I experienced any negative sides.
Thank you for your concern!
By the way, any suggestions on how to get my doctor to give me a legal prescription of testosterone gel to try?
Keep in mind that sides show up in the blood work first, you may feel fine but that does not mean stress is not being exerted on lipids or organs. Only labs can confirm the initial stress/damage in many cases.

[pebble]

Thank you all for your suggestions! I really appreciate it!

[fitbody]

Depends on the potency of the gel. They compound a 20% cream that would be quite potent for a lady. However I would steer towards anavar or something less androgenic for females who have a lower risk threshold.


thank you Heavy Iron
i was biting my tongue off on this wanted to see what you responded !

the damage i've suffered due to too high androgenic compounds i hate to see someone else learn that the hard way !

[GirlyMuscle]

Fitbody...serious question. You post as if you are very anti-steriod. You talk about the damage it's done to you and the regret you have from using yet you admit to still using. Did I not read in your thread that you're currently using deca? Why do you speak out against steriod usage at the same time you use it yourself?

[fitbody]

Fitbody...serious question. You post as if you are very anti-steriod. You talk about the damage it's done to you and the regret you have from using yet you admit to still using. Did I not read in your thread that you're currently using deca? Why do you speak out against steriod usage at the same time you use it yourself?

cuz if i still wanna compete than you have to use or you don't have a chance in hell
it's the way it is PERIOD !
now i'm careful what & how much i use
plus i'm under the care of Dave Palumbo & he has my best interest at heart
i made it clear to him from the get go when i started training with him 15 months ago that i wasn't willing to do anything in order to get my pro card
that i still wanted to remain a woman
i've worked long & hard to undo the damage thatz been done to me from certain compounds
i hate to see someone else throw all caution to the wind and take whatever
then one day realize what they have done & have to go thru what i've gone thru
but thatz up to the individual as it's their body their life
i don't really think most women understand what that is really like until it's too late
damage is done, price is paid,
and for what ?
did you get what you wanted ?
was it worth it ?
i understand the price only too well
i also know that different drugs in different amounts are gonna effect me
so i am making decisions within my boundries
& taking responsibility for the negative side effects cuz i am knowingly taking something & understanding what it's gonna do to me

anti-steriod ?
well depends how you look at it
it's a double edged sword
i love them & i hate them
bottom line is they work !
i'm against women taking certain steriods for sure
in a perfect world we the women wouldn't take any
then we wouldn''t suffer the consequences of using them
but this is not the present nature of the womens side of the sport
so if you wanna compete you have to use
there is no choice

[SuperSnake]

Is there any explanation of why aas causes the clit to grow in women but not men's penis?

And why it causes men to grow breast tissue and not women?

[sassy69]

Is there any explanation of why aas causes the clit to grow in women but not men's penis?

Change in balance of normal estro / test levels. DHT is the hormone that affects genital growth. So presence will cause this, relative to normal levels in women.


And why it causes men to grow breast tissue and not women?

Not all AAS - for those AAS that aromatize (convert to estrogen), if the guy doesn't use an aromatase inhibitor of some sort, the additional estrogen introduced into their bodies as a result of an oxogenous test, can cause a similar change in normal balance of test / estro for men, thus causing gyno. The introduction of that additional estrogen for women would be miniscule compared to what their normal levels are, so would not cause a change (i.e. loading a huge dose of aromatizing AAS is not an alternative to a boob job.)

[Justin]

so if my gf has a problem ever getting an O, would those that have experience reccomend EQ?

[musclemilf]

so if my gf has a problem ever getting an O, would those that have experience reccomend EQ?

A vibrator might be cheaper and less androgenic ;)

[Justin]

yeah, been there done that....she still has trouble. (see, it's not just me ;) )

[tammyp]

wondering if a test gel would help in that area?

[Justin]

well, she has tried test IM, her OB gave her 100 mg and nothing. I think she said she felt she got alittle hairier, but not diff otherwise....

[musclemilf]

Orgasms are 80% mental. I think your GF should evaluate what's blocking her from reaching orgasm rather than resorting to a steroid compound JMHO. Is your GF on meds, like a SSRI? Does she have unresolved psychological trauma like rape, incest and other types of sexual abuse?

[tammyp]

OMG sooo mental...does she have them or it takes along time? she has to learn what works for her....and a vibrator will certainly help!

[Justin]

she does, it just takes a really long time. and yeah she has a "magic wand". I just wonder if, based on what I'm hearing on this thread, if someting like EQ might make things a little easier....

[GirlyMuscle]

IMO, I'd never use aas just achieve orgasms. It's irresponsible. The sides can be too dangerous and androgenic....for the sake of better sex? If you have to, I'd suggest nothing more than 5mg of anavar daily.

[heavyiron]

It took me like 8 years to figure out how to give my wife an orgasm every time. I am a slow learner I guess.

[beckgirl]

It took me like 8 years to figure out how to give my wife an orgasm every time. I am a slow learner I guess.

You are my hero for at least admitting this! Your wife is very lucky!

[KBigz81]

On 15 mg var a day, sexually all I noticed was increased sensitivity to my clit, and when I do have an orgasm its much stronger than before, but really no increase in my sex drive.

[Tatyana]

I know Tat will say there's no evidence but from my wife's experience, just 5mg daily of test base aka TNE, turned her into a raging maniac. I never complain. Same with even the tiniest amount of winny.

But she's always been extremely sensitive to anything but anavar so any cycle she's done in the past aside from anavar has been very short...like 2 weeks max so the sides don't get out of control.

As far as her little lady goes, she says the increased size has made her's less sensitive to stimulation than before. She has to get a bit rough with it nowadays. :)

The research was in menopausal women, or women who complained of decreased sex drive.

[sassy69]

You can't pick & choose the results & sides you want/ don't want from self-medicating w/ male hormones. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO I do NOT recommend putting your gf on any AAS. SHE should be the one making the decision and IMO, like GM said, this is not an excuse to start running a cycle. EQ will take several weeks to "show itself" and then she'll start getting "thicker". If she's not comfortable in her own skin because she wasn't planning (or dieting or training) to get thick, then she's probably just going to be miserable - which is a different sort of mindfuck to your sex life.

Please don't go looking down that path to increase "sex drive". AAS primarily increases sensitivity - I'm not so sure the whole sex drive works the same as men experience it.

[exit2010]

It took me like 8 years to figure out how to give my wife an orgasm every time. I am a slow learner I guess.


Bless her heart. But good job on sticking with it!:yep: lol

[musclemilf]

well, she has tried test IM, her OB gave her 100 mg and nothing. I think she said she felt she got alittle hairier, but not diff otherwise....

How old is your GF? Was she applying the gel to her labia area?

[fitbody]

so if my gf has a problem ever getting an O, would those that have experience reccomend EQ?


yeah, been there done that....she still has trouble. (see, it's not just me ;) )


wondering if a test gel would help in that area?

maybe its you guys haven't discovered the right technique yet
it's really not been but a few yrs where i finally figured out how to get myself to really climax incredibly
so really a larger clit or enhanced by steriods is not necessarily the answer
cuz i went on steriods in 1989 at 24 yrs old
and by time 1991 believe me my clit went from not knowing it was there to a darn good size
now i'm 45 and like it say it was only a handful of yrs ago that i discoverd then technique that would bring me to an incredible orgasm
so theres lots of yrs in there where i was cranking & my clit was enlarged but still didn't get the big O to the extent i can now
i had to discover the right toy
and the right techinique in order to get the job done
if you want more intimate details on this let me know.... ;)

[fitbody]

IMO, I'd never use aas just achieve orgasms. It's irresponsible. The sides can be too dangerous and androgenic....for the sake of better sex? If you have to, I'd suggest nothing more than 5mg of anavar daily.

i personally do see what the dif is between wanting to take steriods for bodybuilding reasons
or wanting to take it for sexual reasons
whatz irresponsible about that ?
gettin off sexually is important
and if you want to take steriods to accomplish that
and you are aware of the side effects ~ then have at 'er
i know women who were prescribed testosterone by doctors for lack of sex drive

5 mg of anavar i doubt highly would do much to increase size of clit or sexual enhancement
at least it damn sure doesn't do much to me
i've take a wide range of steriods
and doses from as long as 2.5 mg of anavar a day to 3 cc of test a week
and one thing i'm highly in tune with is my sex drive !!!!!!!!!
and how different drugs & doses effect it
i just came off 6 wks deca i wanted to fuck everything that moved, men, women, animal it all looked good
switch to the exact same dose of primo
total dif
now last yr i revolved 6 wks anavar, 6 wks winstrol tabs & 6 wks primo
when i was on the primo is was like: pant pant pant IN HEAT
always complaining to my coach this fuckin primos got me so damn horny & i'm not gettin laid right now arggggggggggh
but now comparing the primo to deca no comparsion
but i haven't been on deca since 1990
when i was married and gettin laid all the time so wasn't so bad & when not with someone

[fitbody]

Is there any explanation of why aas causes the clit to grow in women but not men's penis?

And why it causes men to grow breast tissue and not women?

ha ha thatz fucked eh !

[fitbody]

It took me like 8 years to figure out how to give my wife an orgasm every time. I am a slow learner I guess.

did she not know how to bring herself to orgasm ?
cuz doesn't sound like it !
cuz if she did she coulda showed you...
part of that is personal responsibility of knowing your own body
and what it takes in order for you to bring yourself to the point of orgasm
but that said
you could bring yourself to orgasm
but you have to feel comfortable enough & trust the other person enough
to be able to let go, and surrender to get that sexual release

[fitbody]

You can't pick & choose the results & sides you want/ don't want from self-medicating w/ male hormones. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO I do NOT recommend putting your gf on any AAS. SHE should be the one making the decision and IMO, like GM said, this is not an excuse to start running a cycle. EQ will take several weeks to "show itself" and then she'll start getting "thicker". If she's not comfortable in her own skin because she wasn't planning (or dieting or training) to get thick, then she's probably just going to be miserable - which is a different sort of mindfuck to your sex life.

Please don't go looking down that path to increase "sex drive". AAS primarily increases sensitivity - I'm not so sure the whole sex drive works the same as men experience it.

i agree the girlfriend should be the one making the decision on this
but
i totally don't understand the difference in wanting to take steriods to increase sex drive or to put on muscle
as long as this girl knows what she is gonna deal with at some level
take a drug for muscle enhancement
take a drug for sexual enhancement
to each their own

speaking for my own experience
steriods increases sensitivity & INCREASE SEX DRIVE, depending on drug & dose
WHAT I'D RECOMMEND IS GO TO A DOCTOR & TALK TO THEM ABOUT THIS
IDEALLY AN ENDORCRINOLOGIST (hormone doctor) and get a script & have the right drugs prescribed & monitored
in this type of case they would be more apt to help & prescribe as it's more a health issue
than prescribing steriods / hormones for bodybuilding & asthetic reason

[Justin]

She is 39 and we have been together for 15 years. Of course it's her decision. I'm just getting opinions from those with more experience on the area.

[Justin]

We've been to the dr. (hence the rx fir 100 mg test). They just say: yep that's the way alot of women are wired. We have tested thyroid function and everything else. She's "normal". With primo, var, etc. being "off label" here in the good ole U.S. I figured I'd to for advice here.....

[GirlyMuscle]

I know I saw in Dave's old women's thread at MD the same question was posed and he said if it's strictly for sexual reasons 5mg anavar a day would suffice. I know because I asked the question.

[Nitro Fueled Barbie/Mel Marx]

Okay, now I'm getting aroused. I'm gonna go take care of business. LOL.

[sassy69]

I know I saw in Dave's old women's thread at MD the same question was posed and he said if it's strictly for sexual reasons 5mg anavar a day would suffice. I know because I asked the question.


But still be aware you're introducing a significant change in your hormone balance. There is the chance of vaginosis / yeast infections w/ any AAS, so include acidophilus in your suppplement pile to help.

[fitbody]

Okay, now I'm getting aroused. I'm gonna go take care of business. LOL.

good for you !
fuck i wish i could i did ayahuasca wed night & no sex for that day or 2 days after
i said cool i haven't been with a man since april
my girlfriend say: "No Dawn that means yourself too"
"Damn it!" I said
got another 24 hrs to go till blast off !

[fitbody]

I know I saw in Dave's old women's thread at MD the same question was posed and he said if it's strictly for sexual reasons 5mg anavar a day would suffice. I know because I asked the question.


well things affect people differently
but 5 mg of Anavar won't do jack diddly squat for me for increasing my sex drive significantly
but 1/2 to 1 cc of deca will for fucking sure i wanted to fuck everything that moved !
ha ha TRUTH :hypno:

[GirlyMuscle]

well things affect people differently
but 5 mg of Anavar won't do jack diddly squat for me for increasing my sex drive significantly
but 1/2 to 1 cc of deca will for fucking sure i wanted to fuck everything that moved !
ha ha TRUTH :hypno:

Of course it wouldn't affect you. You have YEARS of aas use and abuse. But to the newbie it might be enough. And keep in mind this is what DAVE PALUMBO said...not me.

[fitbody]

But still be aware you're introducing a significant change in your hormone balance. There is the chance of vaginosis / yeast infections w/ any AAS, so include acidophilus in your suppplement pile to help.

NEVER had a problem with yeast due to steriods
only eating stuff i wasn't supposed to
like sugar, flour, grains, dried fruit, etc
once cleaned up my diet
which wasn't supposed to be eating those anyway, tsk tsk on me...
but there where other things i got allergy tested for by my naturopath
that were causing me grief
ie; oatmeal, dairy, including whey protein, soy, which soy lecithin in alotta stuff, dried fruit, bananas and lots more restrictions
once eliminated these foods yeast was reduced & my excema cleared up

[fitbody]

Of course it wouldn't affect you. You have YEARS of aas use and abuse. But to the newbie it might be enough. And keep in mind this is what DAVE PALUMBO said...not me.

you obviously haven't read any of my steriod history
i've been off and on for 25 yrs
but had yrs off in between using
and the doses i used are extremely low except for a short period of my career near the beginning so i'd hardly call what i've done ABUSE

I understand this is what Dave said
i'm only stating my experience !!!!
i'm a woman who's taken it, Dave can only go on what other woman tell him their experience is
cuz everyone is affected differently by different things & different amount

if this woman has already done some stuff with no reaction
i highly doubt 5 mg anavar will do it
but give it a try
nothing to lose
BIG BIG BIG ORGASM TO GAIN
EXPERIMENT THATZ ALL YOU CAN DO
if 5 doesn't work, increase it, if that doesn't work, try another drug like DECA ! YEAH DECA ROCKS IF YOU GOT SOMEONE TO BANG THE HELL OUTTA
if you don't keep that dildo handy !
;)

[GirlyMuscle]

I have read the many posts of regret you've posted about the abuse you've done with aas. The hair growth, etc. I am in no way against aas use for women for muscular growth. I'm just saying every woman should be informed and cautious.

Fitbody you have an amazing physique....one you would not have built without the aid of aas. But you have repeated spoken out against the use of aas and I read every word of it. So it confuses me when on one hand you are against aas use yet turn around and support it.

[fitbody]

it's like this...

i love the what steriods give you in a good way
strength, size, enhanced sex etc

but i hate the bad effects
increased facial hair, body hair, deepened voice etc

now i hate the fact that in order to compete even on a local level here in BC
you HAVE TO USE STERIODS OR YOU WON'T DO WELL
so really theres no choice if you want to compete in this sport

that said...

WHAT CAN I DO AS FAR AS CHANGING THE SPORT AND DRUG USAGE ?
little to nothing !

WHAT CAN I DO AS FAR AS HELPING WOMEN UNDERSTAND THE RISKS & SIDE EFFECTS INVOLVED IN TAKING ANABOLIC STERIODS ?
Alot !

I can share my experience, and i stress:
MY EXPERIENCE WITH ANABOLIC STERIODS, WHAT & HOW MUCH I USED, AND WHAT THE SIDE EFFECTS WHERE
IN ORDER TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE MAGINTUDE OF THEIR ACTIONS IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO DOWN THAT PATH !

[GirlyMuscle]

Exactly!!! But in the other threads you are all for aas use for increased sexual pleasures! And you don't think that's abuse or irresponsible?? You mentioned in that thread that you're on deca and your sex drive is crazy. The OP's girlfriend has never used and you're indirectly suggesting that she use something..maybe deca to increase her sex drive??? SO maybe you weren't suggesting deca but do you really think she's not going to think about deca after what you posted?

[Lee Penman]

'fitbody'
I just sent you a PM....lets talk about an interview...could be interesting....

[Justin]

But still be aware you're introducing a significant change in your hormone balance. There is the chance of vaginosis / yeast infections w/ any AAS, so include acidophilus in your suppplement pile to help.

....or.....just keep a Diflucan tab on hand......

[pebble]

From personal experience, the duration of the cycle also makes a difference.
What I mean is after 3 weeks of Var, I didn't detect much increase in sensitivity. But at the end of nearly 3 months on Var, I did feel I could achieve O much easier and in positions that I previously couldn't do it.
Not trying to promote AAS use for sexual enhancement. Just sharing my personal experience.

[Justin]

well things affect people differently
but 5 mg of Anavar won't do jack diddly squat for me for increasing my sex drive significantly
but 1/2 to 1 cc of deca will for fucking sure i wanted to fuck everything that moved !
ha ha TRUTH :hypno:

1/2 to 1 cc of deca per week??

[sassy69]

NEVER had a problem with yeast due to steriods
only eating stuff i wasn't supposed to
like sugar, flour, grains, dried fruit, etc
once cleaned up my diet
which wasn't supposed to be eating those anyway, tsk tsk on me...
but there where other things i got allergy tested for by my naturopath
that were causing me grief
ie; oatmeal, dairy, including whey protein, soy, which soy lecithin in alotta stuff, dried fruit, bananas and lots more restrictions
once eliminated these foods yeast was reduced & my excema cleared up


Just making the broad point as this thread is suggesting the use of steroids for sex. Ain't nothing for free when you're looking to manipulate your hormones for this or that particular result - you get the potential of all the other sides as well and women should be well aware of what they are looking at when they look at AAS as a "remedy" for something outside of as a supplement to an already tight and functioning diet & training program.
Also remember you can't stay on steroids forever (thus the term "cycle") so its not a permanent "fix" to this particular issue.

[sassy69]

From personal experience, the duration of the cycle also makes a difference.
What I mean is after 3 weeks of Var, I didn't detect much increase in sensitivity. But at the end of nearly 3 months on Var, I did feel I could achieve O much easier and in positions that I previously couldn't do it.
Not trying to promote AAS use for sexual enhancement. Just sharing my personal experience.

That seems more to imply the FLUX in hormone levels (i.e. while you're saturating) than the actual saturated presence of the compound. I think this is similar to the mood swings & such w/ PMS - its the CHANGE in your estrogen levels at that time of the month that cause this.

[heavyiron]

did she not know how to bring herself to orgasm ?
cuz doesn't sound like it !
cuz if she did she coulda showed you...
part of that is personal responsibility of knowing your own body
and what it takes in order for you to bring yourself to the point of orgasm
but that said
you could bring yourself to orgasm
but you have to feel comfortable enough & trust the other person enough
to be able to let go, and surrender to get that sexual release
She has never masterbated. It actually has been fun discovering her body with her.

[sassy69]

She has never masterbated. It actually has been fun discovering her body with her.

This is probably the biggest starting point for women -- if they aren't comfortable w/ themselves sexually, then they are missing out on a whole bunch of good stuff. Glad you are both on to the fun part!


And really good example of why just jumping to AAS as a way to "get her off" isn't the best first approach. There's a LOT more to it for women.

[tony63]

This is probably the biggest starting point for women -- if they aren't comfortable w/ themselves sexually, then they are missing out on a whole bunch of good stuff. Glad you are both on to the fun part!


And really good example of why just jumping to AAS as a way to "get her off" isn't the best first approach. There's a LOT more to it for women.


This is a little off topic..........

but Sassy, your avi ROCKS :yep:

[heavyiron]

This is probably the biggest starting point for women -- if they aren't comfortable w/ themselves sexually, then they are missing out on a whole bunch of good stuff. Glad you are both on to the fun part!


And really good example of why just jumping to AAS as a way to "get her off" isn't the best first approach. There's a LOT more to it for women.
She was comfortable just inexperienced, which is fine by me.

She used anavar and it had zero effect on her libido. Wine is the best chemical I have ever found for ladies. That coupled with a massage, nice dinner and conversation =)

[sassy69]

This is a little off topic..........

but Sassy, your avi ROCKS :yep:

LOL yea very off topic .. Thx :)

[GirlyMuscle]

She was comfortable just inexperienced, which is fine by me.

She used anavar and it had zero effect on her libido. Wine is the best chemical I have ever found for ladies. That coupled with a massage, nice dinner and conversation =)

I have a harder time climaxing when drinking. I certainly get aroused quicker and easier but I have no follow through.

[tammyp]

She was comfortable just inexperienced, which is fine by me.

She used anavar and it had zero effect on her libido. Wine is the best chemical I have ever found for ladies. That coupled with a massage, nice dinner and conversation =)

you got the right idea!

[fitbody]

Exactly!!! But in the other threads you are all for aas use for increased sexual pleasures! And you don't think that's abuse or irresponsible?? You mentioned in that thread that you're on deca and your sex drive is crazy. The OP's girlfriend has never used and you're indirectly suggesting that she use something..maybe deca to increase her sex drive??? SO maybe you weren't suggesting deca but do you really think she's not going to think about deca after what you posted?

no i don't think using steriods for sex is anymore abuse or irresponsible than if you use it to gain muscle if you are prepared for the negative side effects
then thatz an individual choice

he said she had been prescribed test by a doctor
i'm not suggesting anything
i'm simply stating my experience
i said deca me made sexually insane will i was on for sure
but also stated different drugs affect people differently
if she wants to try deca to see if she get the same sexual response i got
and she's prepared for the negative side effects that will cum along with it
then have at 'er !
good luck & let me know how it goes !
SCREAM MY NAME WHILE YOUR CUMMING :)

[fitbody]

'fitbody'
i just sent you a pm....lets talk about an interview...could be interesting....

look forward to it :)

[fitbody]

From personal experience, the duration of the cycle also makes a difference.
What I mean is after 3 weeks of Var, I didn't detect much increase in sensitivity. But at the end of nearly 3 months on Var, I did feel I could achieve O much easier and in positions that I previously couldn't do it.
Not trying to promote AAS use for sexual enhancement. Just sharing my personal experience.

do we all have to use a disclaimer now when we post ???????
well when i got on the deca injectable
and i'll let you know these are nice imported amps
not some underground garage
i felt increase sexual repsonse in a few days
in a wk i was like: pant pant pant
few weeks: tearing it up badly wishing i had a fuckin boyfriend !

[fitbody]

1/2 to 1 cc of deca per week??

yes sir !
but like i said i got the good imported deca amps
not underground garbage
i don't mind paying more if i know i can get quality stuff
and i'm sure i'm gettin what i pay for :)

[fitbody]

She has never masterbated. It actually has been fun discovering her body with her.

i find that hard to believe :confused:
some human being that has never touched themselves cum on
or do you mean she's never experimented with toys ?
how old was she when you got her ?
out of the cradle or what ?
jesus i remember playing with myself as a small child for Gods sake
touching yourself is masturbating as far as i'm concerned
lets see the defintion of masturbating is: Excitation of one's own or another's genital organs, usually to orgasm, by manual contact or means other than sexual intercourse.

note is says usually to orgasm ! does not mean you have to orgasm to call is masturbating
so some human being that has not as some point in their life touched themselves in order to excite themself is not being honest with someone here

[heavyiron]

i find that hard to believe :confused:
some human being that has never touched themselves cum on
or do you mean she's never experimented with toys ?
how old was she when you got her ?
out of the cradle or what ?
jesus i remember playing with myself as a small child for Gods sake
touching yourself is masturbating as far as i'm concerned
lets see the defintion of masturbating is: Excitation of one's own or another's genital organs, usually to orgasm, by manual contact or means other than sexual intercourse.

note is says usually to orgasm ! does not mean you have to orgasm to call is masturbating
so some human being that has not as some point in their life touched themselves in order to excite themself is not being honest with someone here
She was 29 when we met 11 years ago. She has never felt the desire to play with herself at all. She was very inexperienced sexually when we met.

[fitbody]

She was 29 when we met 11 years ago. She has never felt the desire to play with herself at all. She was very inexperienced sexually when we met.

haha never had the desire to play with herself wow ok
does not seem human to me
but whatever you say heavy i'm not gonna get into a debate on this
guess i'm abnormal or just honest ;)
i'm not ashamed of my humaness & my sexual experience even with myself
i know how taboo masturbating is ooooooooooooooooooh noooooooo !

[heavyiron]

haha never had the desire to play with herself wow ok
does not seem human to me
but whatever you say heavy i'm not gonna get into a debate on this
guess i'm abnormal or just honest ;)
i'm not ashamed of my humaness & my sexual experience even with myself
i know how taboo masturbating is ooooooooooooooooooh noooooooo !
It is insulting that you keep calling my wife and me a liar. Not everyone is like you.

[fitbody]

1/2 to 1 cc of deca per week??

if you are a woman & having trouble orgasming
read this post # 1027
here's the link: RX Muscle Forums

not only that
but important to exercise you PC muscles and have a strong pelvic floor
when you exercise these muscles they become stronger
and you have better control of them
and sex is better
i highly recommend Pilates for this
and i have not long ago got my Pilates certification
and am going to start a class called "PILATES FOR SEX" !!!!!!

[tight booty]

haha never had the desire to play with herself wow ok
does not seem human to me
but whatever you say heavy i'm not gonna get into a debate on this
guess i'm abnormal or just honest ;)
i'm not ashamed of my humaness & my sexual experience even with myself
i know how taboo masturbating is ooooooooooooooooooh noooooooo !
Dawn, I have friends who are not interested in masturbating/touching themselves! Just saying....

[GirlyMuscle]

Can we get back on topic now? How did this thread turn into a masturbation thread?

[fitbody]

Dawn, I have friends who are not interested in masturbating/touching themselves! Just saying....

OKEY DOKEY
probably same ones that act all sexual to men until they marry them then turn fidgid
guess i'm an anomaly ~ i'm ok with that !
i love sex and not ashamed to freely admit it

[fitbody]

Can we get back on topic now? How did this thread turn into a masturbation thread?

sorry i thought clitoral hypertrophy & masturbation went hand in hand ;)
my bad
oh yeah i forgot i'm the anomaly

[tammyp]

well things affect people differently
but 5 mg of Anavar won't do jack diddly squat for me for increasing my sex drive significantly
but 1/2 to 1 cc of deca will for fucking sure i wanted to fuck everything that moved !
ha ha TRUTH :hypno:

yeah take some deca and blow up like water buffalo..that will get her feeling sexy.:hypno::mad::confused:

GM is right...back on topic.....i dont really want to know anyones deal with getting themselves off... thanks.

if you would like to continue your discussion fitbody, please direct it to your thread in the 18 and over section.

[fitbody]

yeah take some deca and blow up like water buffalo..that will get her feeling sexy.:hypno::mad::confused:

GM is right...back on topic.....i dont really want to know anyones deal with getting themselves off... thanks.

if you would like to continue your discussion fitbody, please direct it to your thread in the 18 and over section.

i didn't blow up on deca ~ i'm 16 lbs over my contest weight in august
you'll blow up like a water buffalo is you eat like a big fat hog !

oh me of my maybe you should get urself off you sound a little uptight honey

[fitbody]

ha ha you guys really should chill
why so serious ?

[tammyp]

not uptight at all. just dont care for TMI.

this isnt the forum for this topic so i simply asked if you wished to continue it you do so in the proper forum.

[sassy69]

This is the hitch w/ mixing personal experience w/ broad discussion - fitbody is not going to represent the typical female - particularly in the very common category of "guys coming here asking if a cycle will help get their girl to orgasm" -- FB is an experienced cycler and I gather, is very familiar & comfortable w/ her body - so even the discussion of women who have never touched themselves / become familiar w/ their own sexuality don't match. My point being that, thx to FB, we do have some "yes this is really personal experience as opposed to "bro-telligence" or regurgitating stuff heard on the internet", but also personal experience don't readily translate to anyone who reads it & decides they are going to try the same (e.g. running deca) for their self-diagnosed "problem".

All in all, we're dealing w/ self-medication w/ male hormones - for whatever reason, as FB called out, you NEED to know what you're doing and you have to ACCEPT the sides & the results - ain't nuttin for free. Personally I do not feel that running cycles is the best way for a women to be looking to "fix" an orgasm problem, esp when she has no other purpose to use it -- which would imply she's going to get "thick" from the hormone change and probably not following a tight diet & training to take advantage of all the other "results" (or "sides" - depending on what you want from the cycle) of the cycle. Further, she could encounter other issues like mood swings, vaginal discharge, yeast infections, acne, etc etc etc. You NEED to know what you're playing with.

Also noting that women's interpretation of libido / sex drive can be different from men's -so again, a guy trying to "help" by recommending a cycle because it makes him horny as hell, doesn't apply the same to women across the board. Way too many other factors involved to simply self- prescribe.

[*RedStar*]

now im sad, once again..

"my pussy/my clit" file attachment will not load.. but joker will.. what gives?

on a serious note, bigger clits are MUCH better then normal/smaller ones.

[musclemilf]

This is the hitch w/ mixing personal experience w/ broad discussion - fitbody is not going to represent the typical female - particularly in the very common category of "guys coming here asking if a cycle will help get their girl to orgasm" -- FB is an experienced cycler and I gather, is very familiar & comfortable w/ her body - so even the discussion of women who have never touched themselves / become familiar w/ their own sexuality don't match. My point being that, thx to FB, we do have some "yes this is really personal experience as opposed to "bro-telligence" or regurgitating stuff heard on the internet", but also personal experience don't readily translate to anyone who reads it & decides they are going to try the same (e.g. running deca) for their self-diagnosed "problem".

All in all, we're dealing w/ self-medication w/ male hormones - for whatever reason, as FB called out, you NEED to know what you're doing and you have to ACCEPT the sides & the results - ain't nuttin for free. Personally I do not feel that running cycles is the best way for a women to be looking to "fix" an orgasm problem, esp when she has no other purpose to use it -- which would imply she's going to get "thick" from the hormone change and probably not following a tight diet & training to take advantage of all the other "results" (or "sides" - depending on what you want from the cycle) of the cycle. Further, she could encounter other issues like mood swings, vaginal discharge, yeast infections, acne, etc etc etc. You NEED to know what you're playing with.

Also noting that women's interpretation of libido / sex drive can be different from men's -so again, a guy trying to "help" by recommending a cycle because it makes him horny as hell, doesn't apply the same to women across the board. Way too many other factors involved to simply self- prescribe.

Another "spiritual rep" for sassy....maybe Heavy Iron could do another proxy for me lol

[sassy69]

:)

I'm laughing at this thread- I think its the longest on this forum....

[tammyp]

its dead around here with it being off season and xmas.....and DA was on vaca...

[sassy69]

its dead around here with it being off season and xmas.....and DA was on vaca...


LMAO so all we have to talk about is clitoral hypertrophy??

[fitbody]

LMAO so all we have to talk about is clitoral hypertrophy??

clitoral hypertrophy due to the use of anabolic steriods & enhanced sexual enjoyment from it :)

[fitbody]

now im sad, once again..

"my pussy/my clit" file attachment will not load.. but joker will.. what gives?

on a serious note, bigger clits are MUCH better then normal/smaller ones.


RedStar i just realized that pic you were trying to see was one i posted
ha ha you seen that one before love on my 18 & older thread
it's not really my pussy & clit it's that figurine kitten with the hot dog i cut & put between it's legs for a clit
haha !
it was a joke
but obviously someone here doesn't have a sense of humor & deleted it
:)

[GirlyMuscle]

No one deleted your pic. We're having issues with pics disappearing from the site. It's happened in quite a few threads.