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Lee Penman
04-18-2009, 10:03 AM
A couple of months back I read a quote from Lee Priest who said that in his opinion around 90% of female bodybuilders were bi-sexual. He also said that he wasn't sure if it was the hormones they were taking or that FBB are as a whole more sexually adventurous. Comments?

Johnny Phenomenon
04-18-2009, 10:18 AM
I hate blanket statements. I do believe that a lot of things contribute to the sexuality in female bodybuilding. Hormones play a role I'm sure, but so does the sexualization of women in general, as does the sexual fetish of women/muscle. I don't take anything Lee says seriously, as he is such a pompous prick. I don't believe because you date or marry a FBB you have any take on the sexuality of an entire group of competitors. Also, just because someone does something with a same sex partner, does not make them even bisexual IMO, they are just extremely bold and are testing their sexuality.

Tatyana
04-18-2009, 10:19 AM
Lee Priest isn't the smartest tool in the box.


He is also a very, very, very short man.

:)

tammyp
04-18-2009, 10:59 AM
i think the reference may be to alot of the fbbers that do porn. and alot is girl on girl.

also i think since we are so in tune it our bodies and have such a appreciation of a for physique.

personally, never been with a chick and dont plan to be!

Lee Penman
04-19-2009, 12:09 AM
i think the reference may be to alot of the fbbers that do porn. and alot is girl on girl.

also i think since we are so in tune it our bodies and have such a appreciation of a for physique.

personally, never been with a chick and dont plan to be!
That is true, a lot of FBB have done porn. However, his basic thought of 'give a woman male hormone derivatives and it may effect her psycho- sexual behavior and preferences' may have some worth. Then again, it would also depend on where a woman was sexually before she started the gear.

Sledge
04-19-2009, 01:07 AM
I thought 99% of women were lesbians. I ask them to sleep with me, they say no. Must be a lesbian, right?

AndroGrrL
04-19-2009, 01:23 AM
I thought 99% of women were lesbians. I ask them to sleep with me, they say no. Must be a lesbian, right?

lol but all you need is GM! She's the 1% that's straight :)

Hmm...90% bisexual? I think most women are curious about it...not just female bodybuilders...I mean hell, if a girl was hot and wanted to, I'd probably let her go down on me...I wouldn't return the favor as I have no desire to lick a vag...:emb:

sassy69
04-19-2009, 01:29 AM
You also have to consider just the basic nature of women's physique ...w/ BB being the extreme - but for most it represents the best they've ever looked and for any woman, it makes them feel sexy. There's a greater awareness of the female physique as well because it is under scrutiny both in competitoin terms as well as "fuckability". So I guess its not a big leap into the bi-curious side. The AAS and all that other stuff is just one more facet of it.

Sledge
04-19-2009, 01:32 AM
Not that my opinions worth anything on this subject. BUT (i love that but)

I think women in general are more sensual than men. They see the beauty and sensuality and inherent sexuality of a womans body and find it attractive, just as men do. Women like sensuality and who better to experience that with than another woman.


Did that make sense without sounding sexist.

almard
04-19-2009, 01:35 AM
95% of the girls, ( not just fbb body builder) are lesbians and stright at the same time.......

sassy69
04-19-2009, 01:36 AM
Not that my opinions worth anything on this subject. BUT (i love that but)

I think women in general are more sensual than men. They see the beauty and sensuality and inherent sexuality of a womans body and find it attractive, just as men do. Women like sensuality and who better to experience that with than another woman.


Did that make sense without sounding sexist.

I also think many women are sexually not in tune w/ themselves and have too many hangups about it. In fact they may even jump to the other side and be 'too sexual' in terms of doing it more, expecting tha those they are giving it to will provide security, love, etc. in return. Its really important to have respect for yourself and be comfortable w/ yourself in order to outside the norm.

I think its very confusing for women to grow up from young girls & figure out how it all works, what is expected of them, what they perceive to be expected and what they should expect when they 'give out'. It seriously took me until my late 20s to be more comfortable w/ myself and into my 30s before I would say I'm totally comfortable & confident in myself & my sexuality.

Sistersteel
04-19-2009, 02:16 AM
I am bisexual and have had deviant tendencies since I was a little girl. Runs in the family. The only thing AAS did was make me more comfortable in my own skin. I am in a straight, conservative, monogamous marriage though. I do however, notice women far more than I notice men. I seen enough men to last me a lifetime and got one of my own. lol

tammyp
04-19-2009, 05:44 AM
i find many women attactive. do i want them sexually? no. men would never admit another man is attractive, its that homophobic side of them(think back to the seinfeld where george thought he was gay). women for the most part are comfortable in their own skin, more so than a man.

Skeptic
04-19-2009, 08:47 AM
i find many women attactive. do i want them sexually? no. men would never admit another man is attractive, its that homophobic side of them(think back to the seinfeld where george thought he was gay). women for the most part are comfortable in their own skin, more so than a man.

A gross generalization that does not apply to this particular cowboy.

Sledge
04-19-2009, 08:55 AM
i find many women attactive. do i want them sexually? no. men would never admit another man is attractive, its that homophobic side of them(think back to the seinfeld where george thought he was gay). women for the most part are comfortable in their own skin, more so than a man.

I can honestly say I don't know what makes a man attractive. I sometimes think I do but then it never lasts they all look like men. Sure I can look at 2 men side by side and see when one is obviously more attractive than the other. I have gay friends who drool over some men and woman friends who do the same but I generally have no idea, and am often really surprised by what is attractive and unattractive in men..

Exept Brad Pit. He's about the only one i ever got right. I'd do him, but I'm the top.

Strikerrjones
04-19-2009, 09:16 AM
I can honestly say I don't know what makes a man attractive. I sometimes think I do but then it never lasts they all look like men. Sure I can look at 2 men side by side and see when one is obviously more attractive than the other. I have gay friends who drool over some men and woman friends who do the same but I generally have no idea, and am often really surprised by what is attractive and unattractive in men..

Exept Brad Pit. He's about the only one i ever got right. I'd do him, but I'm the top.

Hah, I was going to throw him in there if you hadn't.

GirlyMuscle
04-19-2009, 10:44 AM
I don't find Brad Pitt attractive at all. Pass.

GirlyMuscle
04-19-2009, 10:52 AM
I don't think I'm bi. I don't want to have sex with a woman but I do get turned on by them. Isn't that weird? I think women's bodies are beautiful and I do get sexually aroused but it stops at wanting to actually DO anything with them. Here's another oddity...when I watch porn I watch the women. I barely notice the guy other than to watch his phallus do whatever it is it's doing to the woman.

I agree with Sassy on the age thing. In my 20s, all I thought about while having sex was...am I doing it right, do I look fat, what is he thinking. In my 30s I was a little more adventurous but I was still worried about how I look, blah blah blah. Now that I'm in my 40s I'm much more secure about myself. I have enough self confidence at this point, that if I feel the guy is thinking stuff like that I wouldn't be there. Of course, Sledge helped me a lot in seeing myself without so much self criticism.

The Big Sexy
04-19-2009, 10:55 AM
i find many women attactive. do i want them sexually? no. men would never admit another man is attractive, its that homophobic side of them(think back to the seinfeld where george thought he was gay). women for the most part are comfortable in their own skin, more so than a man.

Yeah, I admit it when I see a good looking guy, great physique... I think one thing that makes a man attractive is his confidence more than anything (not cockiness) - belief in himself - I have no issue admitting when a guy is "hot" - doesn't mean I want to engage in sexual escapades with him, however. :) then again, I'm probably one of the most "comfortable in his own skin" people I know.

As for women bbers and all being (90%?) bisexual - I think it's a stereotype. I've run into many figure and bbers who were into other women - or talked about other women all the time - this, that, the other... but I've also run into many who are "ewwwww... that's gross"

I think a few of the ladies here nailed it - getting more comfortable, increased sex drive, etc...

buckimscl
04-19-2009, 10:57 AM
I have to agree with Sledge. Not on the Brad Pitt thing :) but I have no clue what makes a man attractive. I think that confidence is an incredible aphrodisiac. I have seen men and women who were not the most physically attractive person but the way they carry themselves and you see they ooze confidence in their interaction with other people. Being comfortable in your own skin and sure of who you are and what you want is incredibly attractive.

GirlyMuscle
04-19-2009, 11:01 AM
Confidence, not cockiness, is the biggest turn on for me. Strength is a big turn on..not just muscle strength but mental. If you don't have confidence, none of the rest matters.

OK...sorry....back on topic...

buckimscl
04-19-2009, 11:03 AM
Confidence, not cockiness, is the biggest turn on for me.
OK...sorry....back on topic...

I agree with GM. There is a vast difference between the two, while one is incredibly sexy the other is an incredible turn off.
What was the topic again :D

GirlyMuscle
04-19-2009, 11:05 AM
Lee Priest says 90% of women bodybuilders are bisexual.

Discuss.

Sledge
04-19-2009, 11:11 AM
Stupid comment by a bloke about as sharp as a bowling ball.

I'd say a lot of FBB's are Bi curious. I lot have a heightened body image and sexual expression. But to say 90% are Bi is just dumb. Maybe 90% of the women he slept with changed teams after.

Maybe we should have a poll with just the FBB on the site entering an answer. there are over 25 so it should be a relevant poll.

Tatyana
04-19-2009, 11:21 AM
Lee Priest isn't the smartest tool in the box.


He is also a very, very, very short man.

:)


I thought 99% of women were lesbians. I ask them to sleep with me, they say no. Must be a lesbian, right?

*coughs*

:)

I think it is little retarded man syndrome.

Sledge
04-19-2009, 11:22 AM
Lesbian!!

buckimscl
04-19-2009, 11:23 AM
But to say 90% are Bi is just dumb. Maybe 90% of the women he slept with changed teams after.


Now that's funny! Lee never struck me like a potential member of MENSA. The more I read his interviews and ramblings in MD the more I realized that he is just not very bright.

Allifit
04-19-2009, 12:30 PM
First I think you need to sit back and define the term "bisexual"....which, if you can do so in black and white then I applaud you, because it seems "bisexual" is pretty gray term. It also seems to have different meanings dependant on whether its being applied to men or to women.

So I looked up the term out of curiosity, to see how a dictionary defines it, and ironically the first definition reads: a. Having both male and female reproductive organs; hermaphroditic.
(now I don't think when Lee Priest stated most fbbers are bisexual this is what he meant, so I went to definition #2)
b. Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of either sex

If we apply this term to women, we use the term bisexual. However if we apply this term to men, we simply call them "gay". I know TONS of people who would categorize a man who likes both men AND women as gay rather then bisexual. Women seem to get more leniancy in this area- I mean we also have the term bi-curious for example. Talk about a gray area. I googled THAT term and came up with PARAGRAPH definitions... see for yourself: http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Bi-curious/id/1931664.

So that leads me back to Lee saying fbbers are bisexual. I'd totally disagree for several reasons.
1) Most fbbers (to my knowledge) do not have both male and female organs so we can rule out number 1
2) Using the second definition for bisexual leaves with a big fat gray area because there are many ways you can "relate to, or have orientaton to persons of the opposite sex"

Like girlymuscle said she can "relate" to other women in the sense that she finds them attractive and arousing but when it comes to actually being physical with another woman she draws the line. Does that make her bisexual? She's relating to another woman, she's finding things attractive in other women- but would she actually sleep with or have a relationship with another woman? What constitutes bisexual?

I think that with lifting, and with taking your body to the height of its potential comes a sense of pride and self satisfaction that leads to confidence. Most women I know who lift and compete are confident, both with themselves and around others. I think a HUGE reason that people are uncomfortable with sex or sexuality relates back to a lack of self confidence. If you take insecurity out of th epicture you have a well built, extremly sexy person who has worked hard for her physique and is open to sharing it. I don't think that means bisexual necessarily.

I'm super comfortable with my body and I don't feel intimitatd or threatened by other beautiful women. I've done nude work. I've done a girl girl shoot. But I dont consider myself bisexual nor would I ever. I enjoy other women, I enjoy complimenting and respecting the hard work other athletes put into their own bodies and I'm comfortable telling another woman she looks good. But would I ever be with or have a relationship with a woman in my personal life-no. I love men:) haha.

I just think a blanket statement like 'fbbers are bisexual' is premature and ill thought out. Sexuality in itself is a very gray area and there are many areas of definition. I've never attempted to peg my own sexuality nor the sexuality of others. I think part of the reason there are so many damn terms related to a persons sexuality is because we have tried to hard to nail down "this is this, and that is that" when it comes to a persons sexual orientation of prefences and the bottom line is we end up with 50 different terms and still no black and white.

Some things arent meant to be black and white. I think sexuality is one of them.

GirlyMuscle
04-19-2009, 12:37 PM
Some things arent meant to be black and white. I think sexuality is one of them.

I'm starting to think this way as well.

For the record...I work with a guy who is both. He's been with both and desires both. He calls himself bi. First one I ever met.

Allifit
04-19-2009, 12:39 PM
I'm starting to think this way as well.

For the record...I work with a guy who is both. He's been with both and desires both. He calls himself bi. First one I ever met.

Props to him.

I just personally think its too hard to define. I've been out at a bar and said that a woman was hot and had my gf go 'what are you lezzie or something' and I've said a woman is attractive online and had people agree and graze over it as though it was nothing.....

it just depends. We all define sexuality in our own terms, I don't think that there is a univesal way to define it. I think it pertains to the individual and how they seem themselves.

Sistersteel
04-19-2009, 12:48 PM
Being equally attracted to both men and women is not a prerequisite to being bisexual.
Back in 1948 a study on male sexual behavior was conducted by a certain Alfred Kinsey. He reported that 46% of men have had both homosexual and heterosexual experiences at some point in their lives with 25% being prison inmates and 5% being male prostitutes.

Anyway, the accuracy of this study is questionable but it was the first of its kind back then and It did give us an important scale for measuring sexuality. So here is the scale for your reference. It ranges from 0-6 with 0 being exclusively heterosexual and 6 been exclusively homosexual. 1-5 on the scale describe varying degrees of bisexuality.

Rating Description
0 Exclusively heterosexual
1 Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
2 Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3 Equally heterosexual and homosexual; bisexual.
4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5 Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
6 Exclusively homosexual
7 Asexual

Another important point to acknowledge about sexuality is that our sexual orientation can vary. Bisexuality in particular is fluid, at some times in our lives we find ourselves increasingly attracted to the same sex and at others increasingly attracted to the opposite sex.

GirlyMuscle
04-19-2009, 12:50 PM
I'd label myself a 1.

buckimscl
04-19-2009, 12:56 PM
Chronic zero here.

Skeptic
04-19-2009, 01:07 PM
I'm a Zero wrt my wife and a 7 wrt to everyone else. At least until she stops looking over my shoulder..... :D

Tatyana
04-19-2009, 01:09 PM
Being equally attracted to both men and women is not a prerequisite to being bisexual.
Back in 1948 a study on male sexual behavior was conducted by a certain Alfred Kinsey. He reported that 46% of men have had both homosexual and heterosexual experiences at some point in their lives with 25% being prison inmates and 5% being male prostitutes.

Anyway, the accuracy of this study is questionable but it was the first of its kind back then and It did give us an important scale for measuring sexuality. So here is the scale for your reference. It ranges from 0-6 with 0 being exclusively heterosexual and 6 been exclusively homosexual. 1-5 on the scale describe varying degrees of bisexuality.

Rating Description
0 Exclusively heterosexual
1 Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
2 Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3 Equally heterosexual and homosexual; bisexual.
4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5 Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
6 Exclusively homosexual
7 Asexual

Another important point to acknowledge about sexuality is that our sexual orientation can vary. Bisexuality in particular is fluid, at some times in our lives we find ourselves increasingly attracted to the same sex and at others increasingly attracted to the opposite sex.

I love the Kinsey studies. Shere Hite also did some good work related to sexuality.

sassy69
04-19-2009, 01:23 PM
Interesting thought on sexuality ... I guess there's the part about being attracted sexually, and then the part about everything else (i.e. relationship). I think women can be very attractive -- as a physique athlete I really do appreciate the details of what women are born w/ and what they've built. But being that I'm already 5'7" and pushing 180 lb right now, I much prefer to be around a guy who is bigger than me and actually makes me feel like a petite female. There's just no comparison. And further I think I'd shoot myself before I got into a relationship w/ a female. I can barely deal w/ the standard backstabbing and games that always seem to be the norm. I've worked hard to get control of my personal emotions and I doubt I could deal w/ someone else who is emotional. There are definite lines that I'm aware of in my own life.

p.s.
04-19-2009, 01:24 PM
i find many women attactive. do i want them sexually? no. men would never admit another man is attractive, its that homophobic side of them(think back to the seinfeld where george thought he was gay). women for the most part are comfortable in their own skin, more so than a man.Well I tend to disagree with that generalization regarding guys being too homophobic to admit another guy is attractive. Hell I've got some buddies that are really good looking guys (rotten bastards all of 'em!!) and it doesn't bother me to admit it, and no I'm not gay etc but I am comfortable in myself enough to recognize a good looking person be they male or female.

As far as gals being bisexual or gay in our sport I don't believe this is limited to only BBing or figure/fitness as this appears to be prevelant in all areas of society. Women are coming into their own more and more (it's about time) and as such appear to just be more open about all aspects of themselves.

tammyp
04-19-2009, 03:23 PM
ok...i need to reword....MANY men.......


continue...:)

maxititer
04-19-2009, 10:31 PM
I believe in love in it's original interpretation and have done some crazy things on name of it.

Everybody are having some cultural imprints which are forming some sort of our psychiatric self. Accordingly we accept or reject things. I feel happy when I see girl and boy in love, cant imagine feeling any similar in case of gay couples.

As Shakespeare said - There is no bad or good things, but thinking made it so.

Sistersteel
04-19-2009, 11:38 PM
I believe in love in it's original interpretation and have done some crazy things on name of it.

Everybody are having some cultural imprints which are forming some sort of our psychiatric self. Accordingly we accept or reject things. I feel happy when I see girl and boy in love, cant imagine feeling any similar in case of gay couples.

As Shakespeare said - There is no bad or good things, but thinking made it so.

Did you mean you could not imagine it being any different in gay couples?

big.poppa.pump
04-19-2009, 11:55 PM
A couple of months back I read a quote from Lee Priest who said that in his opinion around 90% of female bodybuilders were bi-sexual. He also said that he wasn't sure if it was the hormones they were taking or that FBB are as a whole more sexually adventurous. Comments?

Lee Priest should be taken as seriously as Gregg V. Not talking shit about Gregg V, just saying that Lee isn't a huge insider. He just likes to say random shit to get attention.

esplendido
04-20-2009, 12:22 AM
1. An extensive study of men and women watching porn found that 99% of ALL viewers focused on the woman.

2. I know a woman who developed as a heterosexual, and during college experimented with homosexuality and became a Lesbian for 7 years. After, she rejected Lesbianism and returned to heterosexuality. Her reason was simple: women were much harder to deal with than men in an intimate relationship. She said she still loved her last girlfriend but didn't want the drama in her life any longer.

ThePoser
04-20-2009, 02:11 AM
Lee Priest should know, he was married to one. :D

Maybe he couldn't satisfy her.....she turned to a women......left him.........now he makes statements like that???

sassy69
04-20-2009, 02:12 AM
1. An extensive study of men and women watching porn found that 99% of ALL viewers focused on the woman.

2. I know a woman who developed as a heterosexual, and during college experimented with homosexuality and became a Lesbian for 7 years. After, she rejected Lesbianism and returned to heterosexuality. Her reason was simple: women were much harder to deal with than men in an intimate relationship. She said she still loved her last girlfriend but didn't want the drama in her life any longer.


Not that I'm considering lesbianism, but that is what comes to mind.

tight booty
04-20-2009, 04:05 AM
Too much estrogen together could be a bad thing. Men and women balance each other out perfectly! Or at least that is how I feel.

maxititer
04-20-2009, 05:21 AM
Did you mean you could not imagine it being any different in gay couples?

I mean that I can feel happy, when I see, happy men/woman couple. Gays couples may be happy too, but I will not be happy for them.

Allifit
04-20-2009, 07:19 AM
Lee Priest should be taken as seriously as Gregg V. Not talking shit about Gregg V, just saying that Lee isn't a huge insider. He just likes to say random shit to get attention.

exactly. sometimes I think he just says random shit to ruffle the feathers, sit back, and watch us all go nuts over his comments... lol.

Skeptic
04-20-2009, 07:23 AM
exactly. sometimes I think he just says random shit to ruffle the feathers, sit back, and watch us all go nuts over his comments... lol.

Agreed. But saner heads prevail and this conversation quickly morphed and is no longer aboot Lee's remarks, but rather an intelligent sharing of ideas on a related topic. Idiots can be useful. :D

Allifit
04-20-2009, 07:32 AM
Rating Description
0 Exclusively heterosexual
1 Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
2 Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3 Equally heterosexual and homosexual; bisexual.
4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5 Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
6 Exclusively homosexual
7 Asexual

Another important point to acknowledge about sexuality is that our sexual orientation can vary. Bisexuality in particular is fluid, at some times in our lives we find ourselves increasingly attracted to the same sex and at others increasingly attracted to the opposite sex.

GREAT post- especially your remarks about the fluidity and the variation about bisexuality, which kind of ties back into what I said earlier about bisexuality being something that's difficult to define in black and white terms. Bisexual has different meanings to different people....

I'd say I'm like a 1.5. :)

Lee Penman
04-20-2009, 09:38 AM
Agreed. But saner heads prevail and this conversation quickly morphed and is no longer aboot Lee's remarks, but rather an intelligent sharing of ideas on a related topic. Idiots can be useful. :D
That's exactly the idea of a thread like this. Start with an off the wall remark just to get people talking and then develop it into a serious discussion. You tapped into my methodology...lol!!!

Lee Penman
04-20-2009, 09:43 AM
GREAT post- especially your remarks about the fluidity and the variation about bisexuality, which kind of ties back into what I said earlier about bisexuality being something that's difficult to define in black and white terms. Bisexual has different meanings to different people....

I'd say I'm like a 1.5. :)
Now that it is 2009 perhaps human beings should let go of all the old beliefs surrounding relationships. A person's gender should not be a restricting factor when it comes to taking a relationship to the next level. There...the 'buddha on the hill 'has spoken...or was it Tila Tequila...lol!!

sassy69
04-20-2009, 12:02 PM
Now that it is 2009 perhaps human beings should let go of all the old beliefs surrounding relationships. A person's gender should not be a restricting factor when it comes to taking a relationship to the next level. There...the 'buddha on the hill 'has spoken...or was it Tila Tequila...lol!!


I'm curious tho if this lack of "expected" or "enforced" structure for the traditional definitions of relationship & family is affecting the strength of relationships in general. There is so much fluidity that it is more acceptable to be outside the traditional state of 'relationship'. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

A funny thought w/ things like gay marriage, it makes you wonder what the gay divorce rate will be?

Skeptic
04-20-2009, 12:13 PM
A funny thought w/ things like gay marriage, it makes you wonder what the gay divorce rate will be?

And this is a great place for me to preach: we have NO idea. Idealogues will claim to know. They are wrong. Look at any idealogue's track record. Abysmal would be a generous description.

We will have to wait and see. Studying this without religious contamination will be very difficult.

Skeptic
04-20-2009, 12:40 PM
That's exactly the idea of a thread like this. Start with an off the wall remark just to get people talking and then develop it into a serious discussion. You tapped into my methodology...lol!!!

Well I'm talking aboot making shinola out of shit. You're talking aboot recruiting the retard squad as a scientific methodology. :eek:

j/k of course. :D:D

Lee Penman
04-21-2009, 12:11 AM
I'm curious tho if this lack of "expected" or "enforced" structure for the traditional definitions of relationship & family is affecting the strength of relationships in general. There is so much fluidity that it is more acceptable to be outside the traditional state of 'relationship'. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

A funny thought w/ things like gay marriage, it makes you wonder what the gay divorce rate will be?
Best quote on gay marriage came from Dolly Parton who said she was all for it because it was "time gays had the opportunity to put up with all the S*** us straight folks have been dealing with for years." lol!
The traditional relationship thing? I hate to name drop here (yeah sure Leigh!) but a certain popstar with initial M once told me in my music biz days that traditions were for our grandparents, adventure and exploration were the key words for the new generation. Make of that what you will!

Johnny Phenomenon
04-21-2009, 12:40 AM
Now that it is 2009 perhaps human beings should let go of all the old beliefs surrounding relationships. A person's gender should not be a restricting factor when it comes to taking a relationship to the next level. There...the 'buddha on the hill 'has spoken...or was it Tila Tequila...lol!!

So many people have same sex experiences based on sheer infatuation/curiosity. That is what makes the whole idea of bisexuality jaded in my mind. My cousin is gay and married. I know he ain't comin' back, he's gay for life. However so many people nowadays push that line, just to push it - with it being less to do with sexual preference and more with temptation.

Allifit
04-21-2009, 08:42 AM
So many people have same sex experiences based on sheer infatuation/curiosity. That is what makes the whole idea of bisexuality jaded in my mind. My cousin is gay and married. I know he ain't comin' back, he's gay for life. However so many people nowadays push that line, just to push it - with it being less to do with sexual preference and more with temptation.

I wouldnt call it temptation- I'd term it curiosity. The age old "how do you know you like something till you try it" mantra applies here to some I'm sure....

Johnny Phenomenon
04-21-2009, 09:21 AM
I wouldnt call it temptation- I'd term it curiosity. The age old "how do you know you like something till you try it" mantra applies here to some I'm sure....

Bisexuality is trendy in some circles.

Allifit
04-21-2009, 09:47 AM
Bisexuality is trendy in some circles.
Again I go back to how gray of a term 'bisexuality' is. I just find its too hard to define.... every person sees that term differently..

GirlyMuscle
04-21-2009, 10:09 AM
Best quote on gay marriage came from Dolly Parton who said she was all for it because it was "time gays had the opportunity to put up with all the S*** us straight folks have been dealing with for years." lol!
The traditional relationship thing? I hate to name drop here (yeah sure Leigh!) but a certain popstar with initial M once told me in my music biz days that traditions were for our grandparents, adventure and exploration were the key words for the new generation. Make of that what you will!
My BFF says the same thing! She says, "Why shouldn't gay people have to put up with all this shit (marriage). We do!" Obviously, she's not the happiest married individual.

Sledge
04-21-2009, 10:20 AM
We all know your trysexual. ^

GirlyMuscle
04-21-2009, 10:25 AM
We all know your trysexual. ^Yes, yes, I am.

The girl was hot but I wouldn't do it on a regular basis. Spanking hurts so I don't have to really do that again....unless you want to. I loved that night with the silver vibrator...you're a genius. :D

Dr Pangloss
04-21-2009, 05:29 PM
A couple of months back I read a quote from Lee Priest who said that in his opinion around 90% of female bodybuilders were bi-sexual. He also said that he wasn't sure if it was the hormones they were taking or that FBB are as a whole more sexually adventurous. Comments?


He pulled the number right out of his ass, where he pulls most of his opinions from.

Lee Penman
04-22-2009, 12:08 AM
He pulled the number right out of his ass, where he pulls most of his opinions from.
True, the number is questionable ( I have not seen the statistics, lol!). However, the statement does provoke thought with regard to sexual behavior changes on administration of male hormones. Or indeed the freeing of inhibitions that those additional hormones may allow perhaps via an increase in self confidence and an acknowlegement of sexual power.

Mandla
04-24-2009, 05:08 AM
Lee Priest isn't the smartest tool in the box.


He is also a very, very, very short man.

:)

Ah come on, why you gotta to clown the vertically challenged?