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I saw Cody on Thurs afternoon and considerably bigger than he was in the past. Don't know how that's gonna translate to classic physique, but the size was noticeable.

I remember reading that article in the Village Voice back in 90 which is when I first moved into NYC. Never met the man, but I had friends that trained at his gym and with him and every single one...

Nice guy...spectacular physique....... On very good source, he is moving to down to the new Mecca of Bodybuilding..... Boca Raton FL........lol..

Dave must have very compromising pictures of Johnny to get him to work so hard....oh wait a minute? Maybe it's b/c Dave leads by example and inspires his employees.... while Blechman spends his time...

No one outworks or outhustles Rx.... Dave long ago set the work ethic, something he basically just transposed over from his workout days..... Quite simply Rx wants it more....

Not always but...

If Blechman was smart??? I'm not sure that matters or if that is even the correct question you should be posing. What it should be is: If Blechman cared about the sport of bodybuilding, its...

Seriously? Tell me anyone is surprised by anything said in this video? And then tell me do you think it really makes a difference?

As far as Dave and John: it simply lends credence to what...

I'm admittedly somewhat bias toward Darrem, however the placings for this division were a complete disgrace. I thought the top 4 in no order should have been Breon, Arash, Darrem and Tims. Those...

Clearly, you aren't familiar with how Dave looked He walked around at over 300lbs and was in the single digits of bf. Granted no way did he have the most asthetic physique, in fact, you might say...

I believe he had the same procedure as Riddick where he can now only see in the dark...LOL, as long as I have known Dave, he has had blue eyes....not that I really even paid attention

As for the...

Back when Dave competed there were significantly less pro cards awarded. In fact, if I remember correctly (and of of the forum historians will probably have a better answer), but I believe there...

It's ironic the few bad shots of Dave seem to be what everyone focuses on…. Heck, haters even immortalized him in referring to bad physique bodybuilders as being stricken with "Palumboism", however...

I guess when you look at it like that it might be confusing! :dunno:

Reading Comprehension used to be a basic skill.....I'm not justifying any of Kevin's actions... I simply said you can't blame him for taking the money.... I guarantee the vast majority of people...

Oh, all the people with integrity....what a joke. This is an industry filled with people who don't know what integrity is...My integrity doesn't have a price and it's not in question, I just call...

This is just more proof of what kind of ass backwards pathetic industry bodybuilding is...

Would this type of behavior exist in any other major sport? Would ESPN sign Tom Brady to a year...

Joe: Thanks for the reporting and update. And good for Toney!

However, while on paper this might appear to be less of a conflict of interest in theory the problem still exists. The NSL...

Joe I don't mean Toney confirming he is in the NSL. I meant confirming the source of his sponsorship and the dollars. If NSL is paying Toney to compete, (not that he wouldn't win anyway) but I...

In typical, Thompson fashion, his statements are unclear. A sponsorship deal is paying Toney? What does that mean? Who's the sponsor? Is the NSL sponsoring him? A Supplement Company? What...

I think everyone is rooting for Tony....but the same isn't true of Lee and the NSL and justifiably so..

If Tony gets what he was promised he wins...,, if he doesn't I still tend to think it was...

Why? You know the answer Joe.... b/c it's about ego...(which is what this entire industry thrives on)... in reality, the NPC/IFBB shouldn't give a rat's ass about Lee Thompson and his BS league,...

They can go together. Great move from a financial perspective (potentially long term) but obviously it involves risk which is why I stated I hope he got some guarantees....

if he had stayed in...

I think you have to look at this from 2 perspectives. I totally agree with what Dave stated about Toney, however, from a financial perspective this was absolutely correct decision for Toney.
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Um..... $$$$$.

If he takes the stage there is no competition so he will bring home the top prize. If he is in mgmt., he likely will make more there than competing in the IFBB and not have to...

I see Darrem in the gym just about every day. He is between 5'9' and 5'10' so he couldn't weigh anymore than 197lb for the show per the IFBB rules. I think he was actually a little below that for...

Announcement comes on April 1? April Fools? Coincidence or not?

Having been friends with Dave longer than anyone, I still never know what he's thinking but I will also never discount what...

Lee Thompson is the epitome of every single thing that is wrong with this industry....the fact that he is now ratting out everything in which either partook in or was complicit with does not change...

Talking shit isn't against the law...... and even if Cicherillo did say those things I don't see how that has any impact. I didn't read much of the suit but what I did was comical. Talk about...

I have to agree with Dave's decision. I happen to like both Meinrod's sense of humor and think he's a fantastic writer, so it's not a diatribe against him or his site.

As one poster stated...

While the fans may want Jay to return, really what incentive (other than stroking his own ego) would there be for him. He is still in high demand for appearances, seminars etc. and he still...

It's easy to see why Jay is so well liked and respected...

Maybe he will be able to tell Kai in person...as they are both scheduled to be at the opening of the new Boca Nutrition store on...

I love it when Dave rants...(and when he acts like he owns a supplement company! which btw is something I wish he'd focus on instead of this Rx BS, (that's my rant)...

Dave's been saying this...

Once a sociopath always a sociopath.

I know Dave probably thought to himself "Sure let's get Douche on Iron Debate and me and John can make him go crazy and we will get ratings".... and it certainly wasn't hard to do, but seriously... ...

I just finished watching and it was exactly what I expected. I honestly don't even know why Dave had Douche on the program. He has offered almost nothing to Rx ever. Dave thinks his writing is...

I forgot this was on... and haven't listened yet and will likely tomorrow...if I'm bored.

I do have 2 brief observations at this point:

1) Douche is eerily similar looking to that guy from...

Trademark law is a very specialized field (I don't practice in that area, although did get an A+ in the class in law school)

As I said above, I haven't read the complaint yet so don't really know...

For those with an interest: The "real" NPC filed suit for trademark infringement against Nspire and Lee Thompson on 10/27/15.

I haven't pulled or read the complaint yet...so can't offer anything...

Don't fool yourself into believing that the IFBB/NPC doesn't care... they do and they care about every single bad thing or perceived wrong against them and they hold a grudge....

I think it was...

Earlier in the thread, John states there are 2 issues: 1) the New Org and it's Credibility and 2) Thompson's Character.... I don't think those are separate issues.

And I think the real 2nd...

You have no idea what you are talking about....trust me...

I'm glad to see the heavy hitters (Dave, John and Chris) all participating in this thread. Here's my thoughts being nothing more than an observer to this: I have yet to see, read or hear of one...

Great video.... I always thought Stacey had great chemistry with Aaron on Access Bodybuilding and it was a shame, Lee banned her from it (something I had heard before)..

It would be interesting...

Sorry, but this thread is a load of crap....Thinking Evan didn't know what the company goals were before he got involved with them is naïve. Especially since he had long standing relationships with...

You see these types of lawsuits in every industry, you get some, for lack of a better word, Douchebags, who want to extort companies by filing essentially frivolous lawsuits against them, it costs...