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    So...you really think theres absolutely NO...

    So...you really think theres absolutely NO difference between being seated 15 ft. away and seeing the competitors in transition and moving into poses...and pictures and video??
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    The confusion comes mostly from people not really...

    The confusion comes mostly from people not really knowing how to assess a physique or conditioning as it is...THEN, you throw on top of it that 99% of them are looking at pics, video, etc...

    As...
  3. Thanks for lending some knowledge from someone...

    Thanks for lending some knowledge from someone who is THERE....I have literally hundreds of emails, IG, FB, messages and competitors personal accounts of whats been going on.

    All of that is...
  4. Funny...my inbox would state otherwise. I just...

    Funny...my inbox would state otherwise.

    I just got a email from a competitor who WON the Arnold fitness...and was denied a pro card from the UK because they didn't feel as though there enough...
  5. 1. Yes, sanctioning events worldwide will be...

    1. Yes, sanctioning events worldwide will be more profitable for the Pro league, mores for the Individual promoters

    2. No...AMI only promotes the Olympia name

    3. Robin Chang serves both AMI...
  6. Why would AMI have any interest? Aside from...

    Why would AMI have any interest? Aside from their own Amateur Olympia shows, which have been around a few years now, they don't stand to gain or lose anything. They put on the Olympia, which is...
  7. No one ever said Robin Chang had nothing to do...

    No one ever said Robin Chang had nothing to do with the IFBB Pro League....just the opposite ectually. He's also in charge of International Business for the Pro League.

    By ASSUMING you know what...
  8. lol...pretty much just writing your own story. ...

    lol...pretty much just writing your own story.

    Yes, AMI bought the publications from Weider 12 years ago

    AMI only promotes the Olympia and Amateur Olympia titles. They have no connection to...
  9. Why do you keep mentioning AMI, when in reality,...

    Why do you keep mentioning AMI, when in reality, they have nothing to do with whats going on. ?
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    No...I can't say that. Ive been plenty vocal in...

    No...I can't say that. Ive been plenty vocal in the past when not agreeing with the placings.

    Said from the start of this, after seeing the first set of pics that came...I thought Jose could've...
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    He has every right to be...I would be too ( and...

    He has every right to be...I would be too ( and have been)

    My guess is that the judges squarely has it a 1-2 competition between Flex and Hadi...
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    It IS political. The Judges are biased towards...

    It IS political. The Judges are biased towards awarding the best physique on stage.;)
  13. 1. There are legalities at issue, which I'm not...

    1. There are legalities at issue, which I'm not at liberty to discuss...If it were that easy, it would've been done long ago.

    2. The corruption and amount of people involved is so deep, it would...
  14. Ben Weiders dream was to have bodybuilding into...

    Ben Weiders dream was to have bodybuilding into the Olympics. I actually have articles that came out when I was just about 18-19 years old ( late 80's) where I mention hoping to have the chance to...
  15. Thanks ...much appreciated

    Thanks ...much appreciated
  16. Good point....I'm not sure who's side he's on,...

    Good point....I'm not sure who's side he's on, which is why I asked him to clarify.

    I have ZERO fear of these shows tanking...actually, just the opposite. Were expecting record numbers that we...
  17. He's already taken them...in forming his "elite"...

    He's already taken them...in forming his "elite" card. This was put into place many months ago on his end, without any notice to the Pro League.

    The IFBB Pro league has separated themselves...
  18. Then clearly, you don't fully understand how...

    Then clearly, you don't fully understand how this operated for many years now....

    But please, feel free to elaborate.
  19. First....history. The IFBB ( and subsequently,...

    First....history.

    The IFBB ( and subsequently, IFBB Pro League from 2005)...established themselves over 50 years ago. The Mr. Olympia became the universally accepted title of "worlds best" and...
  20. Is that supposed to be in reference to my last...

    Is that supposed to be in reference to my last post?
  21. Yep...well, their pockets are about to become a...

    Yep...well, their pockets are about to become a whole lot lighter....
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    Well said. Hope you enjoyed the...

    Well said. Hope you enjoyed the show...especially from the 3rd row!
  23. Raphael is the promoter of the ASC/ Spain The...

    Raphael is the promoter of the ASC/ Spain

    The Pro show is sanctioned by the IFBB Pro League, as it always has.

    He doesn't have anything to do with the Pro portion of the event

    This was was...
  24. Thanks for bring ing up the topic...not quite...

    Thanks for bring ing up the topic...not quite sure if you're rooting for me or against me...lol

    What you'll see , is IFBB Pro League qualifying shows. Along with them will be IFBB ProLeague PRO...
  25. PLEASE.....what goes on in FBB isnt even in the...

    PLEASE.....what goes on in FBB isnt even in the same hemisphere as anything else...its one of the things that has led to where it is today...

    Again...I didnt have to imply anything...I said it...
  26. It IS stupid...but you can see why they ask it in...

    It IS stupid...but you can see why they ask it in the business were in. I've been asked it many times myself...

    Any of the examples you gave would be out of left field to ask...the question might...
  27. Nah...he wasn't sharing with anyone...We had a...

    Nah...he wasn't sharing with anyone...We had a shot in his honor as he wasnt there when we were. I actually ran into him on the way out...

    Ben is good people...
  28. 1. I dont lack respect for women who bodybuild,...

    1. I dont lack respect for women who bodybuild, I just dont like what its (the sport)become or those who engage in the disgusting , seedy underside of prostitution

    2. I never "implied"...
  29. why?

    why?
  30. Full of shit, perhaps....turds in the...

    Full of shit, perhaps....turds in the pockets....NEVER!
  31. Perhaps you're unaware...but the "revenue stream"...

    Perhaps you're unaware...but the "revenue stream" has been reduced to a "trickle"...at best

    I.E.- all the dangling carrots in the world arent enticing girls to take up FBB...

    The fact that...
  32. who...me??:dunno:

    who...me??:dunno:
  33. anytime

    anytime
  34. It's too bad the numbers have dwindled to...

    It's too bad the numbers have dwindled to practically nothing...

    It's too bad the physiques have gotten to where they are...

    I didnt start the fire..dont blame me.
  35. Lets clarify a few things....I used the wording...

    Lets clarify a few things....I used the wording "phased out" as it represents whats happening at the NPC level, by way of few if any numbers of FBBers showing up to compete. Without a direct...
  36. Height....not weight classes. Weight classes are...

    Height....not weight classes. Weight classes are for BB....which this isnt.

    There is no "maxed out" other than to what extreme level the girls would be....I've seen plenty of taller girls who look...
  37. Here is the answer: Figure was never intended...

    Here is the answer:

    Figure was never intended to get as "hard" as it did, but as I explained with FBB, it's very difficult to contain a sport based on making improvements by way of getting bigger,...
  38. Exactly... What some of these girls need to...

    Exactly...

    What some of these girls need to ask themselves is...just what is it that you "love"..is it BB, training in the gym, dieting, cardio, show prep, etc........

    or is it taking supps?
    ...
  39. People...people...PLEASE! Is this REALLY that...

    People...people...PLEASE!

    Is this REALLY that tough to figure out? I mean, come on now....
    I cant figure (no pun intended) out if some of you just like to chat, or REALLY have a hard time...
  40. LOL...not sure where you derive that from what I...

    LOL...not sure where you derive that from what I wrote....but no, thats not what it means

    What it means, is that its the SPORT ITSELF that doesnt work, not the judging, and not the women...
  41. As I've stated many times now, its everyones...

    As I've stated many times now, its everyones fault, and no ones fault in particular...

    The problem has ALWAYS been, and always will be...that bodybuilding should be judged as such, regardless of...
  42. Agreed, but if left to "run wild" in the gym...I...

    Agreed, but if left to "run wild" in the gym...I bet Val could be a fine representative in WP..!
  43. Beauty as in "Beauty of the physique"..not that a...

    Beauty as in "Beauty of the physique"..not that a pretty face hurts the cause, but were not running beauty contests either...
  44. Nothing new to report from Dave, people...as you...

    Nothing new to report from Dave, people...as you can plainly READ from the second post I put up.

    It's status quo for now...cant have a show without participants....
  45. First and foremost, I appreciate your opinion and...

    First and foremost, I appreciate your opinion and welcome the opportunity to address the issues you may have with this new division..hopefully> i can lend some clarification...

    First, Betty has...
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