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    No, chained out is proven to not impact your...

    No, chained out is proven to not impact your insulin levels, Xtend on the other hand will spike them dramatically.
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    its the supposed appetite increase that accounts...

    its the supposed appetite increase that accounts for the weight gain. i've never had a problem on keto and drinking diet soda, and I drink alot of it. It may not be good but it gets me through it....
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    I agree, I'm not saying they are claiming steroid...

    I agree, I'm not saying they are claiming steroid like results I just found it interesting that they chose those pics when they clearly make it a point to say this product is safe and not a steroid....
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    the only problem I see is that the pictures on...

    the only problem I see is that the pictures on the website are of guys that are obvioulsy on steroids (not that I have anthing against that). But if you are going to make the point that this is not a...
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    yep you got me, I'm gay. HAHA just pointing out...

    yep you got me, I'm gay. HAHA just pointing out all the BS people have been posting lately.
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    ^^^But his legs are so small!! he must be gay!

    ^^^But his legs are so small!! he must be gay!
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    No they just don't need to compete in the...

    No they just don't need to compete in the heavy/superheavy weight class. Thats why there is this class. by your theory there should be no natural BBers, no 202 class, In the npc no weightclasses...
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    What if they are as big as they are "humanly"...

    What if they are as big as they are "humanly" possible to get, and just don't want to use/abuse AAS. I guess thats gay too? As long as your big thats all that matters.
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    HAHA, I guess your right. Bad analogy but still.

    HAHA, I guess your right. Bad analogy but still.
  10. ^^^ this...reps

    ^^^ this...reps
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    Sometimes its hard to tell when so many people...

    Sometimes its hard to tell when so many people get this upset over something that doesn't affect them at all! Its like me complaining and bitching about people who are vegetarians. I think its stupid...
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    Exactly! Those guys that aren't "gay" are so...

    Exactly! Those guys that aren't "gay" are so lucky, I hope I can be cool (and straight) like them one day.
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    maybe I'm just slow but I just don't get how any...

    maybe I'm just slow but I just don't get how any of this makes someone gay. They are still going to have to show up in shape with definition, nobody is saying these guys should show up out of shape...
  14. yes you're wrong! 1 or 2 tablespoons will not...

    yes you're wrong! 1 or 2 tablespoons will not take you out of ketosis. even if it did (which it won't) you will be back in ketosis by the morning. you can be in ketosis on 100g carbs a day. your...
  15. I'm not saying it does burn fat but who knows....

    I'm not saying it does burn fat but who knows. But the article states that it is being used by athletes not bodybuilders. now we know the two are different, diet training rest everything is different...
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    There are plenty of digestive enzymes in your...

    There are plenty of digestive enzymes in your stomach. Don't really need to worry about what is or isn't in the food. People have been eating cooked eggs for thousands of years and its worked out...
  17. its amazing how much better he looks there. I...

    its amazing how much better he looks there. I mean I love the freaky size that shows up on stage now a days but his physique back then was so much better and one most people would love to have.
  18. Who cares? Just let them get on stage, it doesn't...

    Who cares? Just let them get on stage, it doesn't affect you at all. They aren't doing away with any divisions and the freaky BBers will still be there. Doesn't stop them from competing, Jay is not...
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    It looks like she lost some weight to me. She...

    It looks like she lost some weight to me. She looked bigger on jersey shore. Is she going to be a recurring character or was it jus the one time?
  20. No way, I've seen random chicks in the airport...

    No way, I've seen random chicks in the airport that are hotter.
  21. The difference between he and Mr Charles are he...

    The difference between he and Mr Charles are he actually backs up his claims. He Did it in the league, he did it in martial arts and now mma. The guys' a true freak.
  22. Any thoughts on pills versus liquid? I know the...

    Any thoughts on pills versus liquid? I know the studies used liquid but I was just curious.
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    I buy it even though i can get whey for free. The...

    I buy it even though i can get whey for free. The results speak for themselves and its worth the money for a product that produces.
  24. Seriously, he isn't winning because of luck. He...

    Seriously, he isn't winning because of luck. He busts his ass and he's been doing this since he was like 19 so he's certainly paid his dues. he's a great guy and a 4 time mr O that shit is not easy.
  25. That first pic is insane. Especially at his size,...

    That first pic is insane. Especially at his size, I hope he comes in next year like that. So he can shut up all the haters once again.
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    I don't understand why he packed eggs and...

    I don't understand why he packed eggs and chicken, especially since that was clearly a checked bag. He does know they sell eggs and chicken in Vegas right? that being said I hope he gets back soon.
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    wow first time i've heard someone say dymatize...

    wow first time i've heard someone say dymatize doesn't taste good. I know ISO 100 doesn't have to most variety of flavors but i've always liked them.
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    how the hell do you get striated jaw muscles????...

    how the hell do you get striated jaw muscles???? thats damn impressive, best of luck to him.
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    [quote=GENESIS;1165146]Lonza ltd. is a company...

    [quote=GENESIS;1165146]Lonza ltd. is a company that makes products for both pharmaceutical companies and dietary supplements.

    I think Dymatize as well also has a plant in Florida that does some...
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    ^^^ Agreed 100%!

    ^^^ Agreed 100%!
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    Exactly, once you've been on gear you realize...

    Exactly, once you've been on gear you realize that is the only thing that really "works" and you can see all the $ you've wasted over the years. It really is a same the public have been lied to so...
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    I get that most supps nowadays are way overstated...

    I get that most supps nowadays are way overstated and the claims are ridiculous but to just write them off is just as bad. Do we really need everyhting that is out now? no can you get huge without...
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    is it automatic or is there a code?

    is it automatic or is there a code?
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    Funny indeed, should tell you something.

    Funny indeed, should tell you something.
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    come on you can't really make it that simple...

    come on you can't really make it that simple there has to be some tough really complicated stuff going on here. I mean there is a posted study! HAHA.
    seriosuly its funny after they started this in...
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    clomid is good but the lack of an AI in the PCT...

    clomid is good but the lack of an AI in the PCT is disturbing. if you can get comid you can get Aromisin or the like. get that and use it. I know the HCG thing is popular and for good reason but at a...
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    Thing is the bcaa's do matter especially when...

    Thing is the bcaa's do matter especially when dieting. See you can use CO (especially with HP) as a meal and skip all those calories while getting all the benefits. Take it before you work out and...
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    I get the keto style but if you aren't doing that...

    I get the keto style but if you aren't doing that why not just have regular pancakes? The nutritional profile is not really that bad maybe use SF syrup and If you really want the protein have a...
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    ^^^^ AWWW Shit, you brought the big guns. That...

    ^^^^ AWWW Shit, you brought the big guns. That stuff is hardcore, the kinda stuff u hear about people running but can never actually find.
  40. Is this guy serious? How many threads have there...

    Is this guy serious? How many threads have there been where people have said to jus use a slin pin for liquid orals? I would think it was pretty much common sense but I guess everyone has to start...
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    saw palmetto and longjack if I'm going that long....

    saw palmetto and longjack if I'm going that long. don't want to get shutdown ya know.
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    Everyone knows liquid Drano is where its at!

    Everyone knows liquid Drano is where its at!
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    Any updates on a possible release date? The...

    Any updates on a possible release date? The product and your results sound amazing.
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    whoever did the translation is hilarious....

    whoever did the translation is hilarious. Especially the part where he says he has no idea whats in the blue tube and now lets get the red one and waive them around. good stuff.
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    That is hardcore, you could even included pics of...

    That is hardcore, you could even included pics of someone buying muscle tech!
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