EQ and PRIMO

[Swiper]

IMO lack of results could be from (1)Not training properly, (2)Not eating or supplementing properly, (3) Not enough sleep (4) Drugs could be bogus!!!

let me add to that^^^ (5) OVER TRAINING

[Hittin]

let me add to that^^^ (5) OVER TRAINING

I hear that!

[HANEYCOLEMAN]

let me add to that^^^ (5) OVER TRAINING

TRUE AS WELL AS THIS IS MOST COMMON WITH ECTOMORP; They expend too much energy and stay in the gym too long.

[maxititer]

eq and primo - that more looks like combination for bridge between the cycles. but for bridge I would prefer oxandrolon and primo. two weak steroids like eq and primo are not going to make the stack stronger.

[esplendido]

I'm an ectomorph. I hit 6'-4" in the 8th grade at 140+ lbs. I ran track and xcounty, played basketball. When I decided to begin lifting to gain size, I thought training every body part twice a week and eating 3000 cals would do it. I couldn't breach 205 until 20 years old or so and 215 seemed the limit until 25.

What made the turn for me was dialing training back to each body part ONCE a week (heavy....similar to HIT) and increasing calories to 6-8,000 a day.

Yeah, I put some fat on with the muscle, but I grew and was able to get 7-10 lbs of muscle a year out of it for awhile.

Ecto's have to pound the food down! It's difficult. You never feel hungry and if you don't have some schedule keeper (an alarm on the watch or a friend) it's easy to miss a meal. I don't believe it's easy for ecto's to attempt staying lean while growing. You have to add some fat both to make gains and to lift as heavy as possible.

I will say that I like ecto's physiques much better once they're mature with muscle because they usually have smaller waists and smaller connections.

My wife, on the other hand, is an endo/meso, and she can LOOK at carbs and gain weight. She gains strength and size just getting ready for a workout.

[sassy69]

eq and primo - that more looks like combination for bridge between the cycles. but for bridge I would prefer oxandrolon and primo. two weak steroids like eq and primo are not going to make the stack stronger.

To that point, is a stack of eq + primo sort of redundant anyway? EQ has a longer half-life, but otherwise are they functionally the same / for the same purpose? Only diff I'd toss out might be that, at least anecdotally, EQ has been reported to increase appetite, which might make for a nice off-season aspect while not retaining water?

[HANEYCOLEMAN]

I'm an ectomorph. I hit 6'-4" in the 8th grade at 140+ lbs. I ran track and xcounty, played basketball. When I decided to begin lifting to gain size, I thought training every body part twice a week and eating 3000 cals would do it. I couldn't breach 205 until 20 years old or so and 215 seemed the limit until 25.

What made the turn for me was dialing training back to each body part ONCE a week (heavy....similar to HIT) and increasing calories to 6-8,000 a day.

Yeah, I put some fat on with the muscle, but I grew and was able to get 7-10 lbs of muscle a year out of it for awhile.

Ecto's have to pound the food down! It's difficult. You never feel hungry and if you don't have some schedule keeper (an alarm on the watch or a friend) it's easy to miss a meal. I don't believe it's easy for ecto's to attempt staying lean while growing. You have to add some fat both to make gains and to lift as heavy as possible.

I will say that I like ecto's physiques much better once they're mature with muscle because they usually have smaller waists and smaller connections.

My wife, on the other hand, is an endo/meso, and she can LOOK at carbs and gain weight. She gains strength and size just getting ready for a workout.

brother say it again. this is my point exactly. im a ecto-mesomorph. of course after 20yrs now i have completly changed into a pure meso still sporting a small as waist on a tall frame.