Results 1 to 5 of 5
  1. #1
    OLYMPIAN LookImDancinCrazy!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    630
    Rep Power
    256962

    Default Need help figuring out why gains on current cycle have plateaued

    Ladies, it seems that my gains on this cycle have completely ceased the last week. I'm on 81mg daily of 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione. I'm on day 45 now. For roughly the first 35 to 38 days I was gaining at a rate of a bit over 1 pound of muscle weekly. According to my best estimation today I haven't gained a pound since the last check 7 days ago.

    I dont believe it's an issue of not getting a caloric surplus b/c bf level has increased since the last check. Up about 1%. So far I am continuing to get stronger each workout as well. I eat an average of 40g of complete protein 4x a day. LBM now is 126lbs.

    I'm wondering if part of the issue could be my GI tract getting backed up and as a result I'm storing more calories than processing? To gain this much muscle this quickly, I've obviously been eating much more food than normal. My bathroom habits have gotten way less regular. I'm going an average of 48 hours now w/o a BM, whereas it used to be every day like clockwork. I've started adding Benefiber to my protein drinks and that does seem to be helping.

    Does this hypothesis seem reasonable and if so, how have you ladies dealt with eating enough calories to gain on gear, but not so much your system just gets bogged down?

  2. #2
    RX MEMBER Sistersteel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    2,836
    Rep Power
    5838

    Default

    How do you know you've gained a little over a pound of muscle a week since you started this cycle?

    How much water are you drinking?

    How did you measure that 1% increase in your bf? callipers? Hydrostatic testing? Is it a guestimate?

    How much fiber have you been adding to your shakes? What kind of vegetables are you taking in?

    Your system is bogged down because you are not getting enough fiber. Has nothing to do with the calorie surplus.

  3. #3
    Super Moderator sassy69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Plate Junkie
    Posts
    10,600
    Rep Power
    2148021

    Default

    ^^ Yep. When your system isn't working regularly, its more about what you're putting in than how much.
    "The only way you can hurt the body is not use it. Inactivity is the killer and, remember, it's never too late."
    ~Jack Lalanne



  4. #4
    IFBB Pro & Senior Forum Administrator tammyp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Adirondack Mountains, Upstate NY
    Posts
    7,606
    Rep Power
    2147921

    Default

    konsyl fiber is my best friend. i add it to my oat bran in the morning (which already has 10 g of fiber) and in my nightly shake. and eat your greens....so many bulk and forget the veggies.
    APS HI TECH PHARMACEUTICALS ATHLETE
    Hersuppz.com code TAMMY
    www.team-tammyfitness.com
    pushpullgrind.com code TEAM TAMMY

  5. #5
    OLYMPIAN LookImDancinCrazy!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    630
    Rep Power
    256962

    Default

    skinfold tests at my physician's office.

    You guys are leading me back to my original question. How do you consume all that water and fiber every day while still consuming a surplus of calories? I had to initially drop my water and fiber intake due to a persistent feeling of unpleasant fullness when I boosted my calories. I normally get about 90oz of water daily and probably 40g of fiber. When I started this cycle I dropped my water to about 60oz and fiber to about 20g and that feeling of overfullness subsided. Now the fiber is up to about 25 to 30, but the accompanying feeling of unpleasant fullness is returning too. When I eat my veggies, which I always eat raw, I feel so full I have no room for carbs. That's just what happened last night for example. Didn't get more than 2300cals yesterday b/c of the increased water and carbs. I feel very full and have no desire for more calories.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

X vBulletin 4.2.3 Debug Information

  • Page Generation 0.12653 seconds
  • Memory Usage 6,923KB
  • Queries Executed 27 (?)
More Information
Template Usage (39):
  • (1)SHOWTHREAD
  • (1)ad_footer_end
  • (1)ad_footer_start
  • (1)ad_global_above_footer
  • (1)ad_global_below_navbar
  • (1)ad_global_header1
  • (1)ad_global_header2
  • (1)ad_navbar_below
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_sig
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_start
  • (1)ad_thread_first_post_content
  • (1)ad_thread_last_post_content
  • (4)block_html
  • (1)block_threads
  • (1)facebook_footer
  • (1)facebook_header
  • (1)facebook_likebutton
  • (1)facebook_opengraph
  • (1)footer
  • (1)forumjump
  • (1)forumrules
  • (1)gobutton
  • (1)header
  • (1)headinclude
  • (1)headinclude_bottom
  • (5)memberaction_dropdown
  • (1)navbar
  • (4)navbar_link
  • (1)navbar_noticebit
  • (1)navbar_tabs
  • (3)option
  • (5)postbit_legacy
  • (5)postbit_onlinestatus
  • (5)postbit_wrapper
  • (3)showthread_bookmarksite
  • (1)sidebarext_temp
  • (1)spacer_close
  • (1)spacer_open
  • (1)tagbit_wrapper 

Phrase Groups Available (6):
  • global
  • inlinemod
  • postbit
  • posting
  • reputationlevel
  • showthread
Included Files (37):
  • ./showthread.php
  • ./global.php
  • ./includes/class_bootstrap.php
  • ./includes/init.php
  • ./includes/class_core.php
  • ./includes/config.php
  • ./includes/functions.php
  • ./includes/functions_navigation.php
  • ./includes/class_friendly_url.php
  • ./includes/class_hook.php
  • ./includes/class_bootstrap_framework.php
  • ./vb/vb.php
  • ./vb/phrase.php
  • ./includes/class_facebook.php
  • ./includes/facebook/facebook.php
  • ./includes/facebook/base_facebook.php
  • ./includes/functions_facebook.php
  • ./includes/functions_bigthree.php
  • ./includes/class_postbit.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode.php
  • ./includes/functions_reputation.php
  • ./includes/class_block.php
  • ./includes/block/html.php
  • ./vb/context.php
  • ./vb/cache.php
  • ./vb/cache/db.php
  • ./vb/cache/observer/db.php
  • ./vb/cache/observer.php
  • ./includes/functions_notice.php
  • ./includes/block/threads.php
  • ./packages/vbattach/attach.php
  • ./vb/types.php
  • ./packages/skimlinks/hooks/postbit_display_complete.php
  • ./packages/skimlinks/hooks/showthread_complete.php
  • ./mobiquo/smartbanner.php
  • ./mobiquo/include/classTTConnection.php
  • ./mobiquo/smartbanner/head.inc.php 

Hooks Called (75):
  • init_startup
  • database_pre_fetch_array
  • database_post_fetch_array
  • friendlyurl_resolve_class
  • global_bootstrap_init_start
  • global_bootstrap_init_complete
  • cache_permissions
  • fetch_threadinfo_query
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • load_show_variables
  • load_forum_show_variables
  • global_state_check
  • global_bootstrap_complete
  • global_start
  • style_fetch
  • global_setup_complete
  • showthread_start
  • cache_templates
  • cache_templates_process
  • template_register_var
  • template_render_output
  • fetch_template_start
  • fetch_template_complete
  • friendlyurl_clean_fragment
  • friendlyurl_geturl
  • fb_canonical_url
  • fb_opengraph_array
  • parse_templates
  • fetch_musername
  • notices_check_start
  • notices_noticebit
  • process_templates_complete
  • showthread_getinfo
  • strip_bbcode
  • forumjump
  • friendlyurl_redirect_canonical
  • showthread_post_start
  • showthread_query_postids
  • showthread_query
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • showthread_postbit_create
  • postbit_factory
  • postbit_display_start
  • reputation_power
  • reputation_image
  • postbit_imicons
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • postbit_display_complete
  • memberaction_dropdown
  • bbcode_img_match
  • tag_fetchbit_complete
  • forumrules
  • showthread_bookmarkbit
  • navbits
  • navbits_complete
  • build_navigation_data
  • build_navigation_array
  • check_navigation_permission
  • process_navigation_links_start
  • process_navigation_links_complete
  • set_navigation_menu_element
  • build_navigation_menudata
  • build_navigation_listdata
  • build_navigation_list
  • set_navigation_tab_main
  • set_navigation_tab_fallback
  • navigation_tab_complete
  • fb_publish_checkbox
  • fb_like_button
  • showthread_complete
  • page_templates