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    Default Prop Bloat vs Enath, Cyp

    Do you notice much difference? I see thread all over saying test is test and ur going to bloat the same... But i see many pro's switch to prop for prep

    Was wanting to run prop 500mgs and Var 50mgs through summer for a lean bulk but i do not want to be bloated as shit when im trying to stay lean and looking shredded.... Would it be better to run lower test 200-300 mgs and more var?

    let me know

    thanks in advance
    Not on a Keto diet

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    I belive there is more estrogen in test e, thats why people tends to bloat more?

    But in the end it's all about the diet imo

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    I believe people take prop for show prep as its a faster ester making it easier to manipulate the water retention at the end as the show approaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweedk View Post
    in the end it's all about the diet imo
    Agreed, and in my experience as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by nsp View Post
    I believe people take prop for show prep as its a faster ester making it easier to manipulate the water retention at the end as the show approaches.
    exactly. If there is a retention issue you can drop it and you're good to go. For your purposes not really something i'd advise.

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    the less ester the better imo.

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    500 mgs prop should not make you "bloated as shit". You might retain a bit more water than normal and I do find I have a mildly puffier face even on 500mgs, but it won't stop you from looking good. A moderate dose of an AI could be your best friend in this case.


    I don't trust people who say esters don't matter...that statement is too black and white for me. The drug might be the same on paper but the effects vary. I find I can go up to 700mg of prop without turning too bloated but on the long esters I pretty much smooth out on lower doses.

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    Use some aromasin and you'll be gtg

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    cool thanks for fast responses heres current pic down 11lbs startet cut march 1st



    arms are 17.5 shoulders are beast need more chest abs legs
    Not on a Keto diet

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    Shave your chest and lose the pajama pants...lol besides that ..you look great!!! good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltasaurus View Post
    cool thanks for fast responses heres current pic down 11lbs startet cut march 1st



    arms are 17.5 shoulders are beast need more chest abs legs
    Haha fuck, that made me laugh. Shoulders do look good though.

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    same crap more of a hassle with prob. should have an AI anyway so what issue.... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweedk View Post
    I belive there is more estrogen in test e, thats why people tends to bloat more?

    But in the end it's all about the diet imo
    testosterone doesnt contain estrogen it can convert to estrogen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provo82 View Post
    testosterone doesnt contain estrogen it can convert to estrogen
    Exactly. .

    I did just read something about weight of the ester in the ml per ml strenght, ill see if I can find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Provo82 View Post
    testosterone doesnt contain estrogen it can convert to estrogen
    unless you get some pellet prop haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    unless you get some pellet prop haha
    The pellets have estrogen too ?

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