Pain & Gain

[Triple-H_2005]

Of everyone on this board...I am NOT a freaking troll.

I happen to have a strong opinion about this and if I can "spoil" it enough to prevent one person from paying money to see this garbage, then that's great.

[GREENMACHINE23]

That they "take better care of themselves" was NOT the motivation for the crimes committed...

One of my points is that steroids are not the point of the story, but it's a big part of what's being used to sell it.

My larger point is that the actual events that took place were in no way, shape or form, a comedy. Supporting something that serves to make light of such an awful situation would be just like going to a comedy film about the Boston bomber or the Denver Theater shooter. There was nothing funny about it.

Additionally, it's going to do nothing to help the public image of our "sport" or those taking part in it.

Michael Bay is an opportunist piece of crap.

Must be the liberal mindset to make light of tragic events.
Everything seems to be a joke to them. You have swayed my decision to see this "movie".

[Triple-H_2005]

Must be the liberal mindset to make light of tragic events.
Everything seems to be a joke to them. You have swayed my decision to see this "movie".

And thank you for not calling me a troll!

I really thought I'd gone out of my way in this thread to present a rational, coherent argument, but hifrommike65 had me doubting my ability to communicate!

[ManimalPatB]

Of everyone on this board...I am NOT a freaking troll.

I happen to have a strong opinion about this and if I can "spoil" it enough to prevent one person from paying money to see this garbage, then that's great.

I do not think you are a troll and I think you are correct in almost EVERY aspect of what you have said.

While the movie is partially fiction, its also the re telling of horrific events in a way to make it seem funny. Granted its Hollywood and that is just what they do.

Mark Walberg has even come out and said he talked to the families of the people involved and tried to tell them he was NOT making light of the situation. He tried to make sure that the "real" names were kept out of the film

[GREENMACHINE23]

And thank you for not calling me a troll!

I really thought I'd gone out of my way in this thread to present a rational, coherent argument, but hifrommike65 had me doubting my ability to communicate!

No problem bro. You are far from being a troll. I would consider you more closely associated with being a titan if anything.
Concerning your ability to communicate, based upon my educational experience, I verify you as being just fine.

[GREENMACHINE23]

I do not think you are a troll and I think you are correct in almost EVERY aspect of what you have said.

While the movie is partially fiction, its also the re telling of horrific events in a way to make it seem funny. Granted its Hollywood and that is just what they do.

Mark Walberg has even come out and said he talked to the families of the people involved and tried to tell them he was NOT making light of the situation. He tried to make sure that the "real" names were kept out of the film

"Its also the re telling of horrific events in a way to make it seem funny. Granted its Hollywood and that is just what they do." That's where the poblem is, "It's Hollywood and that's just what they do." It's okay to laugh at yourself, but some events can never be sugar coated and made out to be entertainment nuggets to be taken in.

[ManimalPatB]

"Its also the re telling of horrific events in a way to make it seem funny. Granted its Hollywood and that is just what they do." That's where the poblem is, "It's Hollywood and that's just what they do." It's okay to laugh at yourself, but some events can never be sugar coated and made out to be entertainment nuggets to be taken in.

Hollywood has been making a buck off of death since the dawn of time. It will never stop because its what the masses crave.

[Curt James]

Of everyone on this board...I am NOT a freaking troll.

I happen to have a strong opinion about this and if I can "spoil" it enough to prevent one person from paying money to see this garbage, then that's great.

You're definitely not a troll.

That said...

IZZA ******* MOVIE!

(Googles holocaust comedies)

[knockout ted]

My larger point is that the actual events that took place were in no way, shape or form, a comedy. Supporting something that serves to make light of such an awful situation would be just like going to a comedy film about the Boston bomber or the Denver Theater shooter. There was nothing funny about it.

Additionally, it's going to do nothing to help the public image of our "sport" or those taking part in it.

I wish any director but Bay got his hands on this story. If they wanted to make it into a film, they should have stuck with the dark/dramatic theme. A more suitable director like Darren Aronofsky or Nicolas Refn could have made this into a great movie. I can't totally judge it because I havent seen it yet, but I doubt Bay did the story justice.

Michael Bay is an opportunist piece of crap.

hit the nail on the head.

[Curt James]

I wish any director but Bay got his hands on this story. If they wanted to make it into a film, they should have stuck with the dark/dramatic theme.

Unfortunately, money talks in most places. Hollywood, especially? Bay's films have grossed nearly two BILLION.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/...michaelbay.htm

[Curt James]

I wish any director but Bay got his hands on this story. If they wanted to make it into a film, they should have stuck with the dark/dramatic theme. A more suitable director like Darren Aronofsky or Nicolas Refn could have made this into a great movie.

Aronofsky? $150,193,565 lifetime gross.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/...naronofsky.htm

Refn? $35,196,306 lifetime gross.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/...indingrefn.htm

[Hit-Girl]

Ya, really who cares it's a movie. My point was the movie seems to portray these guys in a way that makes them feel like they are justified in their actions because of their gym lifestyle.

[hifrommike65]

I'm pleasantly surprised that Bay considers bodybuilders important enough to make a film about, & that he was willing to keep the idea alive for a decade. The comic failed crime caper film is an established form (it has existed since The Ladykillers in 1955), it's nice to see Wahlberg & Johnson involved. Can't wait for this movie, & hope it's good.

[hifrommike65]

http://www.eonline.com/news/411178/d...rgency-surgery

Johnson had emergency hernia surgery.

[Triple-H_2005]

Unfortunately, money talks in most places. Hollywood, especially? Bay's films have grossed nearly two BILLION.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/...michaelbay.htm

Curt.
He was given the TransFormers! A franchise with a built-in rabid fan base that had been established and growing since 1984. Those movies were awful...

It's like saying George Lucas is a good director because the Prequel Trilogy grossed $2.53 Billion.

I wish any director but Bay got his hands on this story. If they wanted to make it into a film, they should have stuck with the dark/dramatic theme. A more suitable director like Darren Aronofsky or Nicolas Refn could have made this into a great movie. I can't totally judge it because I havent seen it yet, but I doubt Bay did the story justice.


hit the nail on the head.

You're right...this story didn't need to be "funnied up". The real story was tailor-made for the movies. A better director would have known that.