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04-29-2013, 05:41 PM #106
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04-29-2013, 06:42 PM #107
Scorecard.. really? LMFAO.. yes ok so every industry expert had it close, by no means a CLEAR VICTORY as the scorecards had it.
With bodybuilding, you need to take it all with a grain of salt.
You might want to look up the scorecards from the 1980 and 1981 Olympias as well.. might help you understand better.
Hope this helps.
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04-29-2013, 07:39 PM #108
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04-29-2013, 07:51 PM #109
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04-29-2013, 08:13 PM #110
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04-29-2013, 08:19 PM #111
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'81 was an entirely different story, however. :-(
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04-30-2013, 01:18 AM #112
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04-30-2013, 06:46 AM #113
Although the scoring system back then was very different it looks like Arnold didn't run away with it. He won by a few points. Of coarse in 1981 Franco shouldn't of won. I don't know how the scoring went down and it doesn't matter. That show nearly killed bodybuilding.
As far as what the "industry experts" think, does that matter nearly as much as what the 7 judges think? If Kai is ever going to beat Phil he'll have to convince several of the judges that he's the best. How many "industry experts" thought Branch should've won the 2012 Arnold? I'm sure not many.
Take it for what it's worth brother but I put value on what the judges think because they are ultimately the ones that decide the final placings whether it be politics or whatever. IMO if every judge gives the same guy a 1 than it wasn't that close.
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04-30-2013, 10:43 AM #114
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04-30-2013, 10:49 AM #115
Grammar on the boards is a bit of an oxymoron.
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04-30-2013, 11:07 AM #116
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04-30-2013, 12:15 PM #117
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04-30-2013, 12:59 PM #118
Well, it is ironic he called me an idiot. The same applies with Chris calling me a moron.
If you want to insult someone's intelligence, at least be able to form a proper sentence.
My grammar is far from perfect on here, but I'm not the one calling people idiots and morons either.
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04-30-2013, 01:06 PM #119
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Regarding your mention of multitudes of degenerates in the sport, I agree with you. I compete in the NPC, and even before then, have come to know many. However, this is only an issue if you (generally, not specifically) are weak-willed enough to allow their degeneracy to impact you.
Backstage at shows, I have my earphones in, pump up by myself and frank;ly disassociate myself from the competition, mainly because I am disinterested in feigning solidarity thorugh competition. Thus, the existence of degenerates doesn't affect me.
That said, there are degenerates in all walks of life. I propose it is easier to spot a degenerate in the venue of bodybuilding competition because gear-talk may lead to other drug talk one finds questionable, etc, however there are surely, even in a white-collar professional work-environment such as the one you, and I visit daily, degenerates existing among you at work. You my not be as exposed to it as political correctness and office politics precludes the playful banter and off-the-cuff remarks that might occur backstage at your NPC show from occurring at the water cooler, but you never know what your colleagues do at night - we all have vices.
Matty's remarks about Cedric and Chris are opinions that I happen to disagree with, however opinions are opinions. What I take umbrage with is his disdain for bodybuilding based, it seems almost entirely, on the shady side of the sport, at the apparent willful blindness to its existence in all the other sports he claims greater respect for. Mostof the NBA are tatted-up gangbangers whose talent alone placed them on a court rather than the street-court in the South Bronx. Michael Vick's predilection to dog-fighting, for example, to me, is far more degenerate than injecting 3cc of tren in my ass daily. And female UFC fighters to me, admittedly chauvinistically, are far more nefarious a trend than even the advent of putting non-squatting pretty boys in board shorts on a bodybuilding stage.
If the distinction that Matty and others who once held bodybuilding a little higher than they do now, is the absence of monetary reward for correlative sacrifice, then the passion is gone anyway, and no amount of penance for grapefruit-fuckery, it would seem, could bring back the love.
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04-30-2013, 03:23 PM #120
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