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    Default Can you interpret these lab results for me?

    Well... I FIANLLY bit the bullet and went to one of those Testosterone clinics.
    My decision was based on my low quality erections. However the possible gains in the gym is almost equally as important to me.


    This is my first ever round of any ananabolic.
    Late bloomer I guess...
    I'm 42 years old..6'4...255 lbs.
    Working out on and off since 24.
    Got back into in seriously about 2 years ago {4-5 times a week} where I lost about 40 lbs of fat with diet and weights--Z E R O cardio.
    I do hold fat around my midsection and chest area.


    Blood test show me at:


    Testosterone, Serum---264 ng/dl
    Estradoil---21.0 pg/ml
    Prostate -Specific Ag--0.5
    Hemoglobin---14.6 g/dl


    Doctor said my Testosterone was low and put me on 150mg per week for 4 weeks then retest the blood.
    Because of a scheduling problem I have this week, I will be taking an ADDITIONAL 150mg in 3 days.
    After that, I will be only getting one 150mg per week.


    How bad is 264? I know it's low...but I'm not doomed am I?
    I know most answers can be found in the previous posts, but with my specific situation, is there any advice or insight you may have?
    Any thoughts on my bloodwork and dosage?
    I am sooooo happy I made this move. Judging by what I've read over the years, this has the potential to help me out a bunch.
    Your thoughts?

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    Test would be considered by many to be at the low end of "normal range." Opinions differ on what constitutes a normal range. Estradoil could be a little lower. If you are still in the 20+ range when you get your next blood work done I would proactively start a discussion of adding either arimidex or tamoxifen to try and get your estradoil down into the teens. I hope your treatment allows for a better quality of life.

    For a more educated answer you might re-post your question in Dr. Nathan's thread and see what he says. See below.
    http://forums.rxmuscle.com/forumdisp...Dr-Joel-Nathan

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    Thank you for the info.
    I posted my question in that forum.

    {MODS...kindly delete this thread}
    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilsong View Post
    Well... I FIANLLY bit the bullet and went to one of those Testosterone clinics.
    My decision was based on my low quality erections. However the possible gains in the gym is almost equally as important to me.


    This is my first ever round of any ananabolic.
    Late bloomer I guess...
    I'm 42 years old..6'4...255 lbs.
    Working out on and off since 24.
    Got back into in seriously about 2 years ago {4-5 times a week} where I lost about 40 lbs of fat with diet and weights--Z E R O cardio.
    I do hold fat around my midsection and chest area.


    Blood test show me at:


    Testosterone, Serum---264 ng/dl
    Estradoil---21.0 pg/ml
    Prostate -Specific Ag--0.5
    Hemoglobin---14.6 g/dl


    Doctor said my Testosterone was low and put me on 150mg per week for 4 weeks then retest the blood.
    Because of a scheduling problem I have this week, I will be taking an ADDITIONAL 150mg in 3 days.
    After that, I will be only getting one 150mg per week.


    How bad is 264? I know it's low...but I'm not doomed am I?
    I know most answers can be found in the previous posts, but with my specific situation, is there any advice or insight you may have?
    Any thoughts on my bloodwork and dosage?
    I am sooooo happy I made this move. Judging by what I've read over the years, this has the potential to help me out a bunch.
    Your thoughts?

    Skip the extra 150 shot in 3 days and then get retested hopefully your test will be even lower and your doc will give 250 a week.

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    I think you need at least 250 per week to have a healthy range of test. I usually start with that and increase it as needed. Your doctor should put you on this immediately to get your test levels up once you get to a good level you can cruise your way back.

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    150 is fine, I bet your levels will go up 3 times in 3-4 months.
    Last edited by eggwhite; 06-19-2013 at 11:03 AM.

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    if it is only for the purpose of health and having no expectations of becoming phil heath in 6 months time, 150mg should be fine, but you cant know until you retest. I am assuming your normal range for the lab they used is 300nnmg to 800nnmg, right? you left out some important details though and you only included obviously the labs that were out of normal range.

    how old are you?
    what was your estrogen?
    what test are you prescribed? Enanthate or Cypionate?

    4 weeks is too early IMO to test so taking an extra dose and getting a few more days is better. most docs prescribe Enanthate which has a slightly shorter half life than Cypionate. Enanthate for HRT purposes is perfect for once a week injections. Some docs will give older patients, especially those with hypertension or renal insufficiency, Cypionate due to its longer half life as it is easier on the bodies filtering organs.

    retest and if your estrodial hasn't changed, ask your doctor about adding an anti-aromataze to your protocol to bring your E2 back to a lower range.

    I am going to assume you are over 30, right? your prostate specific antigen is a measure as to how much PSA is being created by your body to protect against inflammation or cell change in your prostate. yours is normal in essence. most docs wont do anything beyond a digital exam all the way up to 4.0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyElTigre View Post
    I think you need at least 250 per week to have a healthy range of test. I usually start with that and increase it as needed. Your doctor should put you on this immediately to get your test levels up once you get to a good level you can cruise your way back.
    That's too much for legitimate TRT.

    I was on 200mg EOW last year. My endogenous testosterone level came back at 114, so my doctor put me on TRT.

    So, about a month in I had my levels checked. I got BW done 14 days after the last shot. Test came back at 760. I thought for sure it would have dropped back down to baseline but it didn't. So, the first 7 days I was probably well over 1000

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    What type of testosterone are you on?? 150 mg per week week is fine, even with the quickest acting esters (propionate). Ive been on HRT for 8 years now and at 200 mgs of cyp per week, my test levels are at about 1200. i wanted to experiment with propionate, so i took 75mgs, twice per week (150 mgs per week total)and my test levels came in at 800. If you are taking 150mgs of cyp or enanthate per week, your test levels are going to be fine for your purposes (erections and muscle growth). See some of my past posts for more info.
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    264 ng/dl is too low. TRT would be my course of action.

    Good luck brother and let us know how the follow up labs come back.


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    can i get some opinions/advice on these numbers. 340 test, 130 estrogen, 5 free test, 25 years old.

    and can being on a diet (low carb) cause these lower end numbers
    Last edited by gorilla; 06-19-2013 at 05:49 PM.

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