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    Same exact thing in my opinion other then with prop you're pinning eod at least and with mast e only twice a week for me

    Mast def my favorite compound

    Tren of course is king but makes me insane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve56 View Post
    Same exact thing in my opinion other then with prop you're pinning eod at least and with mast e only twice a week for me

    Mast def my favorite compound

    Tren of course is king but makes me insane
    I've never used mast E. Before, but that makes sense. I like it a lot as well, Very versatile and gives me a "clean" look even at a low dose. Although it was likely the death blow for my hairline this past prep haha

    I love tren only slightly less than oxygen. No real sides for me other than night sweats at even at 600/week

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    First time i ran it was great!! Second go round anxiety, night sweats that were horrible ..feeling that i was gonna drop dead at any moment was too much lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve56 View Post
    First time i ran it was great!! Second go round anxiety, night sweats that were horrible ..feeling that i was gonna drop dead at any moment was too much lol
    Damn dude. Same dose both times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Coburn View Post
    Damn dude. Same dose both times?
    yeah except i was much fatter the second time around lol so body will def react different...I was also running it with clen and i'm almost positive that clen was 80% the blame for the sides..night sweats and insanity def tren related though lol...BP was def clen though and so were the headaches

    My BP is usually like 115/70
    within a few hours of when i bumped dose to 60mcg it hit 150/85 ..resting heart rate 105 BOOOM! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve56 View Post
    yeah except i was much fatter the second time around lol so body will def react different...I was also running it with clen and i'm almost positive that clen was 80% the blame for the sides..night sweats and insanity def tren related though lol...BP was def clen though and so were the headaches

    My BP is usually like 115/70
    within a few hours of when i bumped dose to 60mcg it hit 150/85 ..resting heart rate 105 BOOOM! lol
    Sheeiiiiit. Last two weeks before my last show I was upto 120mcg clen/day and 600 tren/week and my bp was averaging around 125/60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Coburn View Post
    Sheeiiiiit. Last two weeks before my last show I was upto 120mcg clen/day and 600 tren/week and my bp was averaging around 125/60.
    i'm a firm believer that the body can handle the drugs better when bodyfat is low, consistent cardio, and clean diet
    same with me even though i wasnt running tren during my prep my clen was at 80-100 i forget and my bp was real low 110/60 and below sometimes and heart rate in the low 60's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve56 View Post
    i'm a firm believer that the body can handle the drugs better when bodyfat is low, consistent cardio, and clean diet
    same with me even though i wasnt running tren during my prep my clen was at 80-100 i forget and my bp was real low 110/60 and below sometimes and heart rate in the low 60's
    Completley agree

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    Weight has been stuck at 224.6-225
    if weight isnt 224 or lower by saturday will pull some carbs

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    Incline barbell press- 3 sec negative 185 x 6, 225 x 6, 225 x 6, 245 x 6

    Decline Hammer Press- 3 x 6-8 working up to 3 pps

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    Reverse pec dec for rear delts- 2 sets of 40 with 1 sec squeeze this was hell!!

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    Leg Yesterday

    already seeing some fullness come back to my legs after only 2 weeks

    Seated Leg Curl - 4 x 15

    Leg extensions - 20 reps 2 sec hold, 15 reps 3 sec hold, 8 reps 6 sec hold
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    Squats - 185 x 6, 225 x 6, 275 x 6, 225 x 10, 225 x 10

    DB SLDL - 60's x 15, 60's x 15, 75's x 12, 75's x 12

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    Hows strength? I know most those numbers are relatively low for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushmaster View Post
    Hows strength? I know most those numbers are relatively low for you.
    Squat poundages are way down ..was never a good squatter .. Incline barbell is down but dumbbells i was pressing the 120's first week back

    Not really worried about pushing max poundages just yet. Perfect form and good pump is all looking to get here

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    Hit a new low today 223.6

    down 3.4 in 2 weeks

    no cardio yet..will do first session on Sunday

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    Looks like you are chipping away at it man. Nothing fancy just consistency and hard work. Glad to see this brother!
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    Quote Originally Posted by data4 View Post
    Looks like you are chipping away at it man. Nothing fancy just consistency and hard work. Glad to see this brother!
    Thanks bro!! You're thread and the gains you made are motivational

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