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07-21-2013, 01:17 AM #16
thank you verry much for youre answuers!i think i shouldn't do bodybuilding for competition because i simply don't have the genetics for that,i don't have good skin and my knees and ankles are too buff to look estetic i am verry good on the strenght part i love using basic exercices like squats,deadlifts,bent over rows(my favorite exercice)etc...so i think it is better for me to stick to the part i am good at,that is getting stronger than ruining my body trying to compete in bb...so the question abaut chems that fem's use,what AAS help encrease strenght but with not that much wather retention?(p.s. i - the NPP didn't help with the strenght,i geo bloated and full of wather,i lost most of the wather now,but never going to use it again)
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07-21-2013, 10:20 PM #17
This article will give you a good rundown of things to help answer your questions:
Women & Drugs
(this is also stickied at the top of this forum)
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07-28-2013, 05:21 AM #18
[QUOTE=sassy69;1933997]This article will give you a good rundown of things to help answer your questions:
Women & Drugs
i read this,great info!i still have one more question....if i take anavar or winsrol after usig the nandrolone will it still be efficient or was the nandrolone too advanced?
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07-28-2013, 12:02 PM #19
[QUOTE=IoanaMaria;1937508]
Its not that NPP is "too advanced" - it just has to do w/ what your goals are. We typically recommend anavar as a starting point because the sides are minimal and predictable, while pretty much everything other than that (except maybe oral turinabol) have much greater potential for androgenic sides. The longer the half-life on the compound, the greater the sides. NPP has a reasonably long half-life (tho shorter if you were comparing it to deca - which is why relatively speaking, we'd be recommending NPP over deca, but still for a starter cycle, definitely anavar over NPP).
There's nothing that says you can't use the more androgenic stuff, particularly the injectables, but especially for women who are new to the stuff, it is so important to look at what you are trying to accomplish, what is appropriate for that goal, and what sides you are willing to be responsible to accept. For many, when they start seeing voice change and hair falling out, or chin hairs growing, they freak out and don't want it. But then w/ these more aggressive compounds you can't just stop it and expect the sides go away - that's where you need to understand the nature of the compound - how long does it stay in your system? (i.e. somewhere around half the detection time - where the sides would still be a consideration in your life.)
Typically anavar will support whatever your goals are nicely, as long as your diet & training are already optimally geared towards that goal. I.e. you can cut or bulk w/ it. But IMO you should ideally start at that so you have an idea of how you respond to it and find your tolerance for the sides -both in how your body responds and how comfortable you are with it. The stronger stuff can become a greater consideration in those two arenas, and the difference can be enough between anavar and say test prop or EQ that you can't just assume it will be "a little stronger than anavar", because they aren't a linear progression of sides. E.g. on var, no voice change. On most any other injectable, dramatic voice change or hair loss, or hair growth. Other things to be aware of when you are stacking or going from cycle to cycle are your blood pressure, your lipids, etc.
It's your experiment - just because you used NPP doesn't mean var is now ineffective. It just means you may want to keep in mind if you start another cycle of anything now (it does't matter var or whatever else), that relative to your last NPP injection, and the detection time of it (est around half of that duration you still have some appreciable amount in your system), you may see a cumulative effect between the two. Just a consideration. This might be good in terms of results, but depending on amounts in your system and your body's response to presence of the last cycle attenuating and the new cycle adding in.
Hope that made sense. Once you start cycling w/ the longer-acting esters, they stay in your system a while, so when you want to move onto the next cycle, you just need to be aware of what you still have in your system, how much of it, does your body feel like it needs a break from the stress of this stuff in it (again looking at BP, lipids, etc.) and what adding in the new compound does. This is why the rule of thumb is time on = time off. Its not exact but it gives your body time to clear out some of the previous cycle and then to find its homeostasis in terms of your hormone levels, BP, lipids, etc.
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07-28-2013, 11:41 PM #20
[QUOTE=sassy69;1937583]thank you verry much for the reply!i understand the facts you are saying to me.the sides from the NPP are starting to cleare now(it has been almost 4 weeks from my last shot)the biggest problem now is that after stopping the NPP,i have lost the wather that it was holding(alot i can see now)and i feel verry week,my weights ath the gym have dropped a bit and i feel sad all the time.that is why i am thinking of another cycle.i have gainded enough muscle mass so i wil start cutting till winther.since i have done a bad thing taking the NPP only for a month and gained some fatt too.i have to mention that my diet is clean and of quality foods only,now i am taking Syntha6,but when i will sart cutting will switch to Optimum Gold Whey plus a multivit.i tried to find Anavar but the source is not sure it's legit,that person can give me good Winnie tablets, can i use it to cutt?and can i stay on it for 3 months?start at 10 mg/day split into 2 doses...i belive that it is better for me to use the tablet over the injectable...i am a bit concerned abaut the liver toxicity too..
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07-30-2013, 12:07 AM #21
[QUOTE=IoanaMaria;1937836]If you check the Women & Drugs article, it addresses a recommended winstrol tab cycle.
I was curious about you said you are feeling sad all the time? This can be part of coming off a cycle - great example of the impact of playing w/ hormone levels and the type of changes that come - particularly it seems when the hormone levels are in flux- either while you're coming onto the cycle, or the compound is clearing. Just as a note - this is part of what comes w/ play w/ cycles and you need to be careful w/ seeing another cycle as the answer. Not every cycle is going to treat you the same, so part of running different cycles is getting familiar w/ how you respond to each. For example, it is not uncommon for people to experience a lot of depression with primobolan - just an example, but it is very individual how each will affect you.
If you are experiencing dramatic mood changes, particularly depression, if you can get some powder Inositol (it is just a B vitamin) and follow the instructions on it. This helps.
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07-30-2013, 02:47 AM #22
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07-30-2013, 02:52 AM #23
the problem with my stanozolol is that it comes in 20 mg tabs...in the article you have recomanded 5-15 mg/day...can i start at 10 mg(that is 1/4 tablet - in a.m. and 1/4 in p.m)half per day...i was thinking of starting with the minim 5 but i can't break the pill anymore,so 10 mg/day it is....is taht ok?20 mg will be too much even after a month?
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07-30-2013, 01:36 PM #24
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07-31-2013, 11:32 PM #25
thank you soo sooo much for youre answers,you have really ben alot of help!
got my stanozolol today - 20 mg tablets but the problem is that it says it is depo,and the person i got them from said i should take the hole dose 1 time /day...what should i do,should i still split half in a.m. and half in p.m?
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08-01-2013, 08:21 PM #26
If you can cleanly split it, I'd tell you to do 10 mg / day and just keep it at 1 dose / day so you're not messing around w/ crumbling pieces trying to split it into 1/4s. No one dies if you start at the lower dose. Give it 2 weeks and see how you feel. If you want to increase it to 20 mg /day, then try it. I"d still split that 20 mg dose into 10 mg x 2/day. There's no reason to dive in w/ the higher dose if you don't need to. The art of cycling is finding the sweet spot for YOUR body chemistry.
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08-18-2013, 05:17 AM #27
i have been taking the stanozolol for 2 weeks now,10 mg/day,feels good,i have started a slow cutting diet to loose some fat and the vains are really starting to show,strenght encreased a bit,lost some fat and wather but my weight didn't go down at all..wander why?i am now on a low carb diet,no junk,verry verry clean,6 meals a day.i was feeling a bit sick and could not eat a few days ago so i took Liv52,feels great now,the apetite is back,that was because the winnie affected my liver?should i keep going or stack it with something else?
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08-18-2013, 12:26 PM #28
1) Lost some "fat" or water weight? Obviously a DIET is going make a difference in water retention.
2) Winstrol is frequently called the "snake bite drug" because it either likes you or it doesn't. But more specifically it is common to experience some initial low grade fever / illness when you start a winstrol cycle - why specifically? Not sure - but generally you're introducing a somewhat harsh drug to your system that can cause an immune system response of "getting sick". Other comparisons might be "sus flu". Very common.
3) Body takes time to respond to change. Hard to speak to no weight loss specifically because it tends to take more time for changes to occur as opposed to just passing water retention. More important is the trend of the change over time
4) Think first about what you are trying to accomplish. You said a cutting diet. WHY would you stack something else, esp 2 weeks into a winstrol cycle. It takes up to to weeks to really just get going. MORE is never better. I personally can't think of any reason you'd want to stack anything. Don't go looking for more shit to throw into the pile if you don't need it , just to throw something in. Spend your time tweaking your diet & training, not looking for more drugs to complicate things.
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08-24-2013, 12:53 AM #29
hello again sassy!
i am really haveing some problems with my stanozolol...i am feeling verry week,my joints hurt really bad and this is affecting my training...3 days ago my hair started to fall considerably..can all those symptomes be from the drug or is the diet to blame too...i am on a low carb diet,6 meals a day...no cardio till now...don't know what to do,to continue with the stanozolol or stop it...i feel like crap..((
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08-24-2013, 03:13 AM #30
Stop the cycle and see if the sides stop. Winny can dry the hell out of your joints and hair loss is common w/ the more androgenic stuff. I don't know what you have available at your stores but if you can get some Nizoral 1% or 2% shampoo (or possible you can order online) in a store you would find it near the dandruff shampoo - use it as a shampoo every other day for at least 3 weeks while the winstrol clears.
Sorry you experienced that . Winny can really be a crapshoot to use. It can be very androgenic.
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