2013 NPC Teen, Collegiate & Masters Nationals Play-by-Play!

**Big Baldwin** · 07-21-2013, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by John Hansen

I have to agree. I love John's passion and training intensity and he definitely has a huge fan base. People were talking about his name in this contest 10-20x more than any other competitor. However, he doesn't have the most aesthetic looking physique. He is gnarly looking and freaky but there is more to winning a bodybuilding show than that. Actually, I was really impressed with the 3rd place Ronald Seargant. That guy is a monster with wide shoulders and a great structure.

I totally agree that my decision is based on favoritism. It's hard to be critical when you want someone to win so bad. I think JM had every bbing fan across America glued to their monitor rooting for him.

**Dadup** · 07-21-2013, 01:36 AM

great coverage guys!!! man, everyone was wanting to see John get that pro card

**hankdiesel** · 07-21-2013, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by James Tucci

I'm not there but JM edged him out on conditioning, IMHO

I was there and I agree. He had him from the back especially.

**guruhonza** · 07-21-2013, 02:31 AM

I am huuuuuuge fan of John's. But looking at pics he was not clear winner. I'd have no problem if he got the win but I can understand the decision as it was made.

**cdogg** · 07-21-2013, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by RichDC2

Wouldn't the NPC/IFBB benefit more from having JM as a pro?

do explain...

**The Big Sexy** · 07-21-2013, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by Sunnyday

TBS said it was a tough call between Meadows & Ely.

It was I got my balls busted backstage ... I missed a lot of the 1-2 calls in bodybuilding. . Pretty much swap them lol

Sent From Mt. Big SEXAH

**The Big Sexy** · 07-21-2013, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by John Hansen

I have to agree. I love John's passion and training intensity and he definitely has a huge fan base. People were talking about his name in this contest 10-20x more than any other competitor. However, he doesn't have the most aesthetic looking physique. He is gnarly looking and freaky but there is more to winning a bodybuilding show than that. Actually, I was really impressed with the 3rd place Ronald Seargant. That guy is a monster with wide shoulders and a great structure.

Big Ron is impressive in size. .. needs legs to come up to match his massive upper body

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**The Big Sexy** · 07-21-2013, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by John Hansen

He wouldn't beat Pasquale and Max Charles at that show

Pasquale is doing heavies I think. Also Big Jon Ward!

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**Scott Stevenson** · 07-21-2013, 06:03 AM

Louis (TBS),

Just popping in here to give you a MUCH deserved kudos on the effort put forth with the play by play. I know that's a lot of work and you were "filling some big shoes," soit's much apprecitated.

-Scott

**ypmm5** · 07-21-2013, 08:53 AM

Agreed. The NPC needs to have consistency with their rules.

**ypmm5** · 07-21-2013, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Big Baldwin

I totally agree that my decision is based on favoritism. It's hard to be critical when you want someone to win so bad. I think JM had every bbing fan across America glued to their monitor rooting for him.

Agreed. That is the only reason I was keeping track of the play by play

**nic902** · 07-21-2013, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Big Baldwin

I totally agree that my decision is based on favoritism. It's hard to be critical when you want someone to win so bad. I think JM had every bbing fan across America glued to their monitor rooting for him.

<--Guilty. I am a huge fan of JM..It's hard NOT to root for him and I for one, LOVE his freak factor.

Originally Posted by scottg

I know John Meadows is popular (I've signed up to his site and love his information) but from the pics I've seen he was in no way a clear winner. He could have got the nod but the decisions weren't horrible by any means in my opinion. I hope he keeps going and does get his pro card eventually.

Originally Posted by John Hansen

I have to agree. I love John's passion and training intensity and he definitely has a huge fan base. People were talking about his name in this contest 10-20x more than any other competitor. However, he doesn't have the most aesthetic looking physique. He is gnarly looking and freaky but there is more to winning a bodybuilding show than that. Actually, I was really impressed with the 3rd place Ronald Seargant. That guy is a monster with wide shoulders and a great structure.

I appreciate your perspectives. That's one of the difficult things about BB, it really is subjective and most times, there is no clear winner. It really is about shape, size, symmetry, conditioning...the total package. Even if I love the freak factor, that doesnt always win shows. I hope JM keeps pushing for it and gets his due at North Americans.

**Steve56** · 07-21-2013, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by RichDC2

Wouldn't the NPC/IFBB benefit more from having JM as a pro?

I like John a lot great guy... But in what way would the IFBB benefit?

**James Tucci** · 07-21-2013, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Baldiewonkanobi

If DeRousie had a longer torso and narrow waist I can see where the judges could have gone for the X frame but this is NOT the case. Meadows has a Branch type mass monster physique....more so than DeRousie so WTF? OH forgot....NPC judging. Erratic at best. At least its not often crooked like the AAU was....know what I'm sayin. I was National Judge.

Baldie

Baldie is what I would consider an expert so THIS x 10000000000

**JohnnyStyles** · 07-21-2013, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by homonunculus

Louis (TBS),

Just popping in here to give you a MUCH deserved kudos on the effort put forth with the play by play. I know that's a lot of work and you were "filling some big shoes," soit's much apprecitated.

-Scott

Solid team this weekend.

Originally Posted by Triple-H_2005

Just want to pop in again & thank you guys for the great coverage!

Thanks for being here. Game!