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    What dose would you say trt is best ew for benefits to risk ratios. And would your take an a.i and finisteride, as the doctors wont touch me until 1year. So I'll be self medicating. And getting as much information as possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    im 35. hrt is do to pituitary issues. juicing contributed im sure. committing to hrt is a personal choice. my feelings of when you should mean nothing. natural testosterone is healthier. hrt brings unwanted sides. typical bb hrt doses of 250mg ew is not healthy.
    200mg EOW keeps me near the 800's, if it is really hrt people are after this is a great range to be in for a guy in his late 30's
    Confucius say...
    A ripped guy who eats a pizza, then does an hour of cardio is still ripped.
    A fat guy who eats a pizza, then does an hour of cardio is still fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Mike" View Post
    200mg EOW keeps me near the 800's, if it is really hrt people are after this is a great range to be in for a guy in his late 30's
    i just got my new script this past friday. 100mg ew. thats what im going to go with for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironbrian82 View Post
    What dose would you say trt is best ew for benefits to risk ratios. And would your take an a.i and finisteride, as the doctors wont touch me until 1year. So I'll be self medicating. And getting as much information as possible
    i would try taking somewhere between 75mg and 125mg ew of cyp with nothing else. no ai. and see where your test and estro are at. id do it for a couple months before testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    i would try taking somewhere between 75mg and 125mg ew of cyp with nothing else. no ai. and see where your test and estro are at. id do it for a couple months before testing.
    Would you split the shot into a .5ml Mon, Thurs to keep levels a little more stable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soujerz View Post
    Would you split the shot into a .5ml Mon, Thurs to keep levels a little more stable?
    no. a little time with lower test levels is good. it helps keep the sides away. it is also closer to whats natural.

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    havent forgot about the thread or the new objective. still gaining. im up almost 20lbs. and do to thanksgiving and having 2 days of dinners i think ill cross the 20lb mark if i havent already haha.

    i hope everyone had a good holiday.

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    good to see you back at it bro. stay safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    i would try taking somewhere between 75mg and 125mg ew of cyp with nothing else. no ai. and see where your test and estro are at. id do it for a couple months before testing.
    excellent advice

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    All the best, bro! Need to follow this and get on more.

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    alright guys the end of the log is here. it didnt all go as i had planned. growth slowed a lot on keto and after dropping the dbol (go figure). i was undershooting a lot in my hopes for gains and wanted to double what i had said but shit happens. progress halted last week sometime. but all in all i gained and am keeping somewhere in the 20-25lb range and strength is staying up pretty good also. here are pics from today.

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    Kriaki!

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    joe 20lbs is a good number for a little cycle to keep, you sound disappointed, was the gear good or bad and what make was it pal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironbrian82 View Post
    joe 20lbs is a good number for a little cycle to keep, you sound disappointed, was the gear good or bad and what make was it pal
    thanks.
    nah im not really disappointed. i was just hoping to be able to stay on the cycle and diet the full 4 weeks to see how much i would have actually put on. i pretty much cut it all in half. im still happy with the results and happy as hell to be in the gym!!!

    the whole list of gear and dosage is in the first post or 2.

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    im focusing on 4 plate squats and deads high rep for now for no reason other than to hopefully do a bro's vs pro's haha. southern ny isnt that far from me if they have one there in the near future.

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