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    Default Downsizing your physique (how did Dave do it?)

    How does someone go about downsizing ones physique? I'm no 300 pounder, but at 273 lbs & 43 years old, I've been contemplating downsizing for some time now. I can do the diet & lose fat which I started recently, but how does one lose muscle mass? That goes against everything I've believed In and done for the last 20 years of serious training, but health has to be #1 priority at this point.

    I remember dave save talking about this a few years ago, but don't recall how he did it

    this is the best bbing site and forum on the net, so I'm pumped to see people's thoughts on this.

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    Eat less and your body will shrink. If you only give your body enough protein for let’s say 200 lbs then your body will burn muscle and you will shrink.

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    Very interesting topic, i decided late last year to abandon that thought of being a mass monster, and am working towards being a very solid 210-215, it seems like a much easier size to function in the long term.

    I imagine creating a caloric deficit and less protein while still training could be used.
    Confucius say...
    A ripped guy who eats a pizza, then does an hour of cardio is still ripped.
    A fat guy who eats a pizza, then does an hour of cardio is still fat.

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    And stop the gear.

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    Great feedback already. Thanks guys!Ya I'm dropping carbs and protein also but I still am starving at the 3 hour mark after a meal. As far as gear, I've been on HRT test cyp for 4 years, & am currently at my lowest dose, 190 mg/e6d. Also I MAY have recently added an oral winny to aid with the fat loss.
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    Unfortunately you will be hungry your body will not want to shrink.

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    How much smaller do you want to be?

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    I should add that I don't lift heavy anymore. Due to injuries, my weight training is lighter weights with higher reps, & lots of drop sets. This has not kept me from gaining muscle. But now I think I need to quit doing the drop sets and just focus on higher reps with less weight. It's gonna be weird, as I did this last night for my shoulder workout. I wanted to keep lifting and dropping the weight and force my muscles to do more work, but I stopped after the set instead. Gonna take some getting used to. Don't think I'll have to do this with bis or tris though (or legs) as my shoulders overpower my arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardatit View Post
    How much smaller do you want to be?
    I'd love to be around 245-250 lbs.
    i last competed in 2009 @ 225, and that was natural. I started HRT later that year.
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    How tall are you?

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    So you have gone from 225 to 275 on only HRT?

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    After many decades of off season 230 and contest 200ish on a tall ecto frame I, due to arthritis pain, stopped weight lifting last Feb. I now weigh 195 and dropping. I dropped protein from 300g to 100-150g daily. I kept my HRT the same. (I did use AAS on/off over the decades). I hike in the mountains with vigor (I'm 73). My health has improved. BP better, liver, kidney, prostate, and blood tests all improved.

    So I say keep up the cardio and drop protein/calories down a bit. Light hi rep weight training would be ideal. I may try to start that soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardatit View Post
    How tall are you?
    big nut is 6'2".

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    Less gear (100-150mg test weekly), less food (mainly carbs and protein), lift less weight/do more reps, do cardio

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    Quote Originally Posted by big nut View Post
    Also I MAY have recently added an oral winny to aid with the fat loss.
    Does this mean you're not sure if it was winny or not?

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