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    Default Some "Top Tier" Pro's On HRT, not even using Insulin?




    I just wrote an article for my site on this video. I made a video response a couple days ago. Normally, I don't get into the whole AAS/PED discussion because I don't use and b/c I have bigger fish to fry. However, as much I commend people that go out of their way to help people (e.g deter youth from irresponsible use), I CAN'T STAND when industry-insiders or industry-people lend their channels, sites, blogs to add to the [mainstream] hysteria about gear.

    Marc Lobliner is someone I don't quite get. I always knew of him (from vids & articles) to be a natty bodybuilder. But if you look at his video library, he spends an awful lot of time discussing steroids.

    In his most recent video, he name-dropped Dorian (who I've spoken to), Jay Cutler, and others - suggesting that "some" "top tier" bodybuilders from the "Olympia and Arnold" stage are running only HRT doses + not all are running insulin + some come off that HRT dose during the year. When I asked Dave Palumbo what he thought about this, the first three words of his quote were "It's unlikely lol."

    IFBB Pro & Contest Guru Milos Sarcev gave me a great quote - somewhat backing Lobliner up and somewhat not. Milos said SOME guys do in fact use what he calls "True HRT" (triple dose of the normal HRT). But Milos did not speak on the issue of Insulin, gh, or powerful diuretics.

    Even if a guy was taking minimal gear (which is still a hard sale), how then can we account for the size factor? That's insulin all day. No denying it.

    Marc also talks about Levrone and genetics. True, the Maryland Muscle Machine has AMAZING genetics, but I've also seen him in his Hollywood look in photos and he didn't retain the size. Victor Martinez upon release from prison also didn't have any size. Both of these guys have amazing genetics and a RIDICULOUS work ethic for hard training - but don't tell me that's all genetics and the protein powder you're sellling from TigerFitness (lol).

    There's NOTHING wrong with gear - nothing! But don't deny it doesn't play a role. You wanna talk about genetics??? But without the drugs??? Answer: 1992 WBF Grand Prix. Aaron Baker, Mike Christian, Mike Quinn, Barry de Mey - talk about awesome genetics - but you take the gear out and you have that - a show described by IFBB Hall of Famer Ron Love as Ridiculous.

    What do you think? Why is Marc Lobliner name-dropping and getting tens of thousands of views, making statement like this:

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    1:18 - The low level NPC guys are taking more shit than top level Pro's... Top 10 Olympia competitors.

    2:26 - That guy [Bostin Loyd] is taking more than 90% of the Olympia or Arnold competitors [he knows].

    3:33 - Of the top tier competitors, not everyone is using... they're not.. they're are some that don't do insulin." [Insulin rant]

    7:47 - Most people don't realize, most of these bodybuilders are on HRT type doses, some of them actually come off cycle.
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    Feedback?
    Last edited by MITM; 01-22-2014 at 12:07 PM.

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