Spring Recomp with Tren

[bad rad]

I've decided to call it quits after 7 weeks. I think 6 weeks was the perfect length for me at this dose. I've gained so much strength that I am cramping severely if I flex too hard, a lot of older injuries are reappearing.

[bad rad]

My final thoughts on running Tren.

-Run it with a DHT component, when I had one in there sides were nearly non existent.
-300mgs is too much for me, I should have started at 225mgs.
-Cycle length is individual but I believe 6 weeks would have been a better choice.
-Control your estrogen to help keep sides at bay.
-Be careful when pushing strength levels, I was having issues even on light days because I could contract so hard I felt muscles get "pulled". They're actually small tears so I'll be trigger pointing a lot.
-Have a willing sexual partner on call, my wife took to hitting me with a broom to keep some distance between us. I already have a very high libdo, this was something else entirely and by far the worst side for me. Yes, it got that bad.

[Spardaa]

Great log dude, really appreciate. Love this kind of stuff cus it helps so much, in comparison to all the bro science you hear.

When ever i grow a pair, i'll try tren and run a log aswell.

[bad rad]

I've been using for over 10 yrs in general and this was my second real Tren usage but first time with "normal" doses.

[econ mba]

Agree with Spardaa--your log is really helpful. Reading your final thoughts, it seems I could best run tren by: using winny inject at same time (your DHT component), keep dose at or around 225 if this is my first go with it, and use adex for estrogen. Am I right? I would love to try it but potential sides have me hesitant. If I could do the 3 things I just mentioned and that would keep sides "nearly non-existent" as you said, that would be worth trying. Btw, what exactly did you mean by that? Apart from libido issues, when you were using winny concomitantly what sides (and their degree) did you experience?
Thanks, Rad, love the log!
Sean

[bad rad]

My only two sides I can attribute to Tren were insomnia and during the last week I started getting headaches. At first I thought it was from high blood pressure, then I thought I over did my AI trying to drop some extra water. It didn't seem to be either, just started getting weird headaches and now that I dropped Tren they are going away. They were kinda bad too.

When I was running the Winny I had less insomnia and irratibility. The Winny seemed to negate all the Tren sides you read about. Also the more I thought about the bad stuff I started to think it was related to high estrogen, but I didn't get blood test to back this up.

Except for the headaches and issues with my old injuries I probably would have kept going. Even the sides I had weren't that bad overall but the libido increase became a problem. I had so much sex I ended up with friction blisters. I can only imagine why she's walking that way now.

[econ mba]

Appreciate the specificity, Rad, as it helps me to game-plan my tren strategy. We spent most of the time talking about the negatives, so I'll hit on a positive--hopefully tren gave you the look you were after. If we have to put up with arguably the worst sides of any AAS, then we should see some pretty dramatic results, right? Were you satisfied with the results? Sounds like you got the strength--did you get the size and hardness, too?

[bad rad]

While I don't look like I expected I made pretty dramatic changes for the time frame. According to calipers I dropped a lot of BF but I carry so much of mine on the abs that even at 11% I had a "power gut".

[bad rad]

About halfway through I stopped focusing on diet and tried to push strength gains. My reasoning was until I regain my former ability I can't push my body enough to make changes and keep the muscle while dieting.

[bad rad]

Ok, this is a little unexpected. I had about 2 weeks of Sust/Tren left at the original doses. Since I don't like having opened bottles left over I decided to use it at 250mg Sust and 150mg Tren weekly and the results have been further strength gains, fatloss and less sides. Tren is amazing at any dose!

[joe d]

Ok, this is a little unexpected. I had about 2 weeks of Sust/Tren left at the original doses. Since I don't like having opened bottles left over I decided to use it at 250mg Sust and 150mg Tren weekly and the results have been further strength gains, fatloss and less sides. Tren is amazing at any dose!

you found the magic hormone haha. just be careful with that stuff. ive seen it make bad situations for people. tren has a way of making people feel good while making them arrogant and edgy.

[soujerz]

Ok, this is a little unexpected. I had about 2 weeks of Sust/Tren left at the original doses. Since I don't like having opened bottles left over I decided to use it at 250mg Sust and 150mg Tren weekly and the results have been further strength gains, fatloss and less sides. Tren is amazing at any dose!

YOu know you are really making it hard for me not to add in Tren at 25mg ED to my SUS250 cycle in may, I will also add Masteron 400mg a week and Tbol, still deciding on how to break them up. recommendations have been

week 1-8 500mg sus250 + 400mg masteron
week 9-16 750mg sus250 + 50mg TBOL daily

I i add tren it would be weeks 11-16 25mg ED, also looking into adding proviron 25mg daily to weeks 9-16 since Masteron has an A.I. affect i wouldn't need the proviron in weeks 1-8. Adex will be .5mg ED initially but i will adjust seeing how the masteron/ proviron affect estrogen levels.


All opinions are welcome.

[bad rad]

400mg of Masteron made me very aggressive so be mindful mixing it with Tren. IMO Masteron isn't a great AI but gives the appearance from the loss of sub-q water so I would still run a low dose of A-dex. I'd probably run the T-bol in the beginning and finish with Tren/Masteron.

[bad rad]

Well this was the last week of the cycle. I finished it at half dose but upped Test to compensate. I had fewer sides until switching to Exemestane for AI and it took a bit to get under control. I have the look of a BBer now, still not super lean but it's there. I'm up to 240lbs and my strength is way up. Now going back to HRT doses for a long run to let everything settle.

I dropped one of my Test vials and it shattered. Yes it hurt and I'll have to drop my dose for a bit since I just refilled my prescription.