Blasting while on TRT

[musldman]

with short blasts people tend to need a little more to get the results that they want then they would on a longer run. i think 250 sounds really low. if you where running 10 weeks id agree with the dose. id try 400mg and .5mg adex eod. you may need more or less adex.

Okay so up to 400mg/wk. The adex uppage makes me nervous. The doc originally wanted 1mg eod but I was told on another site that that amount can create issues and to go with the .25mg 24 hours after my injection - so that's .5mg very 2-3 days. That dosage brought me to 35. How will I know if I need more or less? This is one area of the whole thing that baffles me - the adex.

[joe d]

{QUOTE=joe d;2016619]i would only do the 1 blast now. give yourself time to make sure your bloods come back good. if he orders a long list of tests and you come back with symptoms of aas damage he isnt going to be very open to therapy in the future.

I actually already have the lab order. He is asking for:
Total Test
PSA
CBC
Estradiol
Free Test

I'll stick with the one blast. Should I up it to 6 weeks then?

My regular MD will be getting labs from me next month:
CBC
Comprehensive metabolic panel
Lipid panel

Would the extra test affect those?

By the way, my urologist handles my test but my regular MD is aware of it.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

id kold off until after all of this. yes your blast would effect the labs. i doubt it would have such a negative effect to raise flags but it may. it only takes once.

[joe d]

Okay so up to 400mg/wk. The adex uppage makes me nervous. The doc originally wanted 1mg eod but I was told on another site that that amount can create issues and to go with the .25mg 24 hours after my injection - so that's .5mg very 2-3 days. That dosage brought me to 35. How will I know if I need more or less? This is one area of the whole thing that baffles me - the adex.

the ai dose is very person dependant. it even changes over time with the person. i think the number i gave will be a fairly accurate dose. bloods would be the only way to be sure.

knowing that your doc is having you do bloods soon i wouldnt blast at all yet. if you do id go with the 200mg this time. that shouldnt raise anything much. just keep your diet good.

[musldman]

the ai dose is very person dependant. it even changes over time with the person. i think the number i gave will be a fairly accurate dose. bloods would be the only way to be sure.

knowing that your doc is having you do bloods soon i wouldnt blast at all yet. if you do id go with the 200mg this time. that shouldnt raise anything much. just keep your diet good.

The labs done in June are just standard MD labs for physical purposes. The test and estradiol won't be done until August so there would be time to get a blast in.

[joe d]

the labs being done next month are for a general health assessment. there are tests in there that will be negatively effected by your blast. if your numbers are out of normal range the doctors will think it is from your 200mg eow script and probably want to either give you more medication to treat those, or want to lower your test even more. imo its not worth the risk.

[musldman]

the labs being done next month are for a general health assessment. there are tests in there that will be negatively effected by your blast. if your numbers are out of normal range the doctors will think it is from your 200mg eow script and probably want to either give you more medication to treat those, or want to lower your test even more. imo its not worth the risk.

Got it. Here's what I thought I'd do then. Up to 200mg/wk for the next 3 weeks. Take 3 week break before my labs. Do my labs and then start my 4 week blast of 400mg/wk. Then I'll have 4 weeks of cruising before my test labs are drawn.

[joe d]

Got it. Here's what I thought I'd do then. Up to 200mg/wk for the next 3 weeks. Take 3 week break before my labs. Do my labs and then start my 4 week blast of 400mg/wk. Then I'll have 4 weeks of cruising before my test labs are drawn.

that sounds like a good plan to me.

[musldman]

that sounds like a good plan to me.

Awesome! I really appreciate your input. I wanna get this right and get some SIZE!

[joe d]

Awesome! I really appreciate your input. I wanna get this right and get some SIZE!

good luch with it. keep us posted if you dont mind.

[crunchy]

Joe, you're like a friggin encyclopedia!!

Good news for me is i got my appointment bumped up. Originally it was scheduled for June 16, got it moved a few weeks earlier to 29 May (Thursday).

i'm pinning every saturday. i don't suppose I could manipulate the results in any way to get a bump up on the dosage? or am I just asking too much?

Should i get my own blood work the previous week to see where i am, so i can adjust my saturday dosage, or at least go in to the appointment and "act" accordingly? ("I feel better, but still don't feel like myself")???

[Ironbrian82]

don't take a test shot 3 weeks before the test, so your test levels will be low

[crunchy]

don't take a test shot 3 weeks before the test, so your test levels will be low

probably a stupid question but... will that make my level _so_ low that he'll think I'm trying to scam? I'm on 100/wk right now.

def don't want him changing his mind about the self-administration.

[joe d]

Joe, you're like a friggin encyclopedia!!

Good news for me is i got my appointment bumped up. Originally it was scheduled for June 16, got it moved a few weeks earlier to 29 May (Thursday).

i'm pinning every saturday. i don't suppose I could manipulate the results in any way to get a bump up on the dosage? or am I just asking too much?

Should i get my own blood work the previous week to see where i am, so i can adjust my saturday dosage, or at least go in to the appointment and "act" accordingly? ("I feel better, but still don't feel like myself")???

what is being tested on the 29th?

if you want him to up your dosage a little i would take only 3/4 of what you are scripted for a couple weeks up to the test.

does he think your pinning every 2 weeks? if so that may create an issue. you should be tanked by the end of 2 weeks if thats all you where doing. the best way out of that is to say you feel great for the better part of a week then it goes down hill fast. by the time you take your next shot you feel terrible.

[musldman]

good luch with it. keep us posted if you dont mind.

Will do. Have to say, someone on another forum said that he thought, due to my stats, that my BF% is too high and that I shouldn't cycle until it is lower. True?

[crunchy]

Will do. Have to say, someone on another forum said that he thought, due to my stats, that my BF% is too high and that I shouldn't cycle until it is lower. True?

IMO, ur already on it now, what's the difference using a little more for occasional blasts to help you get to where you want? Assuming you know how to eat and and train to accomplish your goals w/ or w/o the help and you monitor your health. But I'm no expert, don't compete, don't pretend to. I'm just sayin.