Dieting is 75% of Your Success!! By Jon Andersen

**Curt James** · 06-25-2014, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Jordan Coburn

Gladly. (snip)

- At least Mr. Anderson is upfront about this diet not being easy..but he should also probably mention that its unlikely to actually work for most people.

It's Andersen. And at least it spurred some conversation and I learned some things. Points for that!

Thank you to all who participated in this thread.

**Jordan Coburn** · 06-25-2014, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Curt James

It's Andersen. And at least it spurred some conversation and I learned some things. Points for that!

Thank you to all who participated in this thread.

Spelling Nazi checking in!

All I'm saying is Curt, You guys need to be more selective about who you publish, especially in regards to nutrition. So much idiotic bro-science is pervasive in this industry. You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.

**Darkseid** · 06-25-2014, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Curt James

It's Andersen. And at least it spurred some conversation and I learned some things. Points for that!

Thank you to all who participated in this thread.

Curt it would be wonderful to have an article an even a debate with Chris, Dave, Tad and maybe someone else about Gluconeogenesis.

**Triple-H_2005** · 06-25-2014, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by data4

I hear ya lol Thank you Jordan.

The nutritional advice here was pretty piss poor. I also find it funny that the higher the percentage of protein he suggest the more aggressive he considers the approach. When protein exceeds 20-30% of total calories, gluconeogenic amino acids make a very significant contribution to total energy utilization, and keto-adaptation probably will not occur anyhow.

This is a great point. And while I might argue that percentage could rise and fall based on the person, "supplementation", etc. the fact remains that most of our iron brethren are missing out on the additional carbs and/or fats they could be consuming due to overzealous protein consumption.

It really isn't rocket science how some guys (like Porter's clients) can eat so many carbs when you see how comparatively low their protein and fats are.

Excessive protein is NOT your friend (nor are excessive carbs or fats) it optimum conditioning is your goal.

**Triple-H_2005** · 06-25-2014, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Jordan Coburn

Spelling Nazi checking in!

All I'm saying is Curt, You guys need to be more selective about who you publish, especially in regards to nutrition. So much idiotic bro-science is pervasive in this industry. You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Jordan Coburn again.

Originally Posted by Darkseid

Curt it would be wonderful to have an article an even a debate with Chris, Dave, Tad and maybe someone else about Gluconeogenesis.

If by "wonderful" you mean "I want to see his 'What exactly IS gluconeogenesis?' broscience get crushed by experts", then yeah...it would be wonderful.

**Jordan Coburn** · 06-25-2014, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Triple-H_2005

It really isn't rocket science how some guys (like Porter's clients) can eat so many carbs when you see how comparatively low their protein and fats are.

Excessive protein is NOT your friend (nor are excessive carbs or fats) it optimum conditioning is your goal.

BB Logic: If "some" is beneficial, then "A Lot" must be awesome"