Diet Critique...

[sbfigure]

thats what i think but when i go to up it, i sweat its like instant growth on my legs and gut...i cant win!!!! i also allow for a cheat or 2 on the weekend... (usually one of the cheats will consist of sushi so its not "too" bad)

apparently this is much like Daves off season figure diet (from what i hear...but i wont know til i actually work with him *crossing my fingers:January*) its also much like a diet a friend of mine was doing in her offseason... so really i just have no idea. haha.. i've been stressin about what i should and shouldnt do. i guess this or something along these lines will have to work until i am ready to caugh over the money to a person trained in this stuff.

but all comments/concerns please still voice cuz i could use the criticism and will take all options into consideration.

[sbfigure]

Bre's right...you do have to let your body re-adjust to eating a "normal" amount of food. And the key is to be consistent. I agree with Tammy about keeping carbs primarily around pre and post-workout. I went through my offseason eating only 1/2c oatmeal in the am and one scoop of Carbolyze with 1 and a half scoops of Isolyze postworkout. My fat was pretty high though, and I learned just how efficient my b ody could be fewer carbs. Dammit girl, we need to set aside like 4 hours to catch up on all this crap!

i guess i've pretty much shocked my body for the past 4 weeks. i tried to stay on a diet but the weekends got the best of me and i cheated quite a bit, and halted the morning cardio, and took my cardio from 6 days down to 4. so that was my shock therapy. Monday I began my total clean up and my "real" offseason diet, and will only allow for 2 cheats. (one dirty cheat and 1 "cleaner" cheat.. sushi ) but YES we definately do have to set aside some time to chat missy. you let me know when and im soooooooo there i always loved picking your brain and getting your input!!

[tammyp]

a good rule of thumb is 15x body weight for maintaining. 10 or 12 x for loss.

and if your really blowing it on the weekends, thats why your not losing. an extra 1000 cals each day, and thats a cheat meal out...x 2 days..there went your deficet.

[sbfigure]

a good rule of thumb is 15x body weight for maintaining. 10 or 12 x for loss.

and if your really blowing it on the weekends, thats why your not losing. an extra 1000 cals each day, and thats a cheat meal out...x 2 days..there went your deficet.

you lost me.... you might want to dumb that comment down a bit..

[tammyp]

lol.... so if you weigh 120 and want to maintain your weight, multiply that by 15. that is total calorie in take per day. if your eating big on your cheats, a normal meal out is like 1000 cals, and you do that twice a week, that certainly will hinder your weight loss.

[sbfigure]

ok well the diet i am eating right now is roughly 1500 cals, cuz its very similar to one i was doing... actually it may be lower.. i am having my friend work it out for me tonight... if i were to maintain my look i would have to consume 2550 cals. thats almost 1000 more than i am currently consuming.... so is it that difference that allows me to have my cheat meal? and still maintain?

[Suzanne]

i didnt mention the veggies... i eat veggies with meals 3, 4 and 6. its usually a spinach salad.. w/ tbsp on olive oil and vinegar. if i dont have the salad, i have either broccoli or spinach.

I have never done a detox "diet" but i have done a body cleanse using pills after my HORRRRIBLE rebound last year.

my goal is to lean bulk....

you cals look way low too low for maintainance at quick glance let alone bulk
if cals are too low you will slwo you metab and gain fat hence tight clothes

i had one trainer had me at 1350 cals and 35 min cardio 7 days a week i was GETTING FAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

changed to my current trainer we got my off season up to 3000 cals 30 min 3-4 times a week and low and behold i was leaner and gained muscle and weekly cheat that was pretty damn big and after eating liek this offseason my prep went easy and smotth and i cam in my best ever!

[sbfigure]

you cals look way low too low for maintainance at quick glance let alone bulk
if cals are too low you will slwo you metab and gain fat hence tight clothes

i had one trainer had me at 1350 cals and 35 min cardio 7 days a week i was GETTING FAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

changed to my current trainer we got my off season up to 3000 cals 30 min 3-4 times a week and low and behold i was leaner and gained muscle and weekly cheat that was pretty damn big and after eating liek this offseason my prep went easy and smotth and i cam in my best ever!

wow thanks so much for that information!!! i just dont knwo whwere to up my cals!!! i have 6 meals... i eat 4 oz. of protein with 3 aside from the protein from my shakes and eggs! i dont know where to increase. i lift really strong, i push myself to whatever limit i can on my own without dropping weight on myself or throwing weight around a losing form. i do 30 min morning cardio and 30 post workout in most cases 6 times a week.

i have no idea where im going wrong. and today i went shopping for pants... can we say MAJOR DEPRESSION now...

[Suzanne]

wow thanks so much for that information!!! i just dont knwo whwere to up my cals!!! i have 6 meals... i eat 4 oz. of protein with 3 aside from the protein from my shakes and eggs! i dont know where to increase. i lift really strong, i push myself to whatever limit i can on my own without dropping weight on myself or throwing weight around a losing form. i do 30 min morning cardio and 30 post workout in most cases 6 times a week.

i have no idea where im going wrong. and today i went shopping for pants... can we say MAJOR DEPRESSION now...

too much cardio for off season work it down
off season i have 6 meals plus pre WO meal plus Post WO meal

depends on what your body responds too I have lots of carbs in my plan and do very well on that I think i am somewehre around 350-400g carbs. They aren't the enemy.

[GirlyMuscle]

They aren't the enemy to you. I can't do the carb thing. Too many moods swings and binging.

[Suzanne]

They aren't the enemy to you. I can't do the carb thing. Too many moods swings and binging.

Very true everybody is different.

I would think in general mood swings would come more often with carb cycling then a consistent diet with carbs in it.

And IMO and from what i have seen and read binging is more psychological then physiological in most cases. Again everyone is different so of course not the case for everyone.

[GirlyMuscle]

I'm just jealous. I wish I could do complex carbs 6 times a day. Even when I was 200 pounds and doing Body For Life I couldn't do that many carbs.

[Suzanne]

They aren't the enemy to you. I can't do the carb thing. Too many moods swings and binging.

I'm just jealous. I wish I could do complex carbs 6 times a day. Even when I was 200 pounds and doing Body For Life I couldn't do that many carbs.

the body is a weird thing!

[Nitro Fueled Barbie/Mel Marx]

Dieting all year around is not healthy in my opinion.

I would have to agree with you. I've been dieting for competing since January and my last show isn't until November before I take a break. I am doing shows back to back a month apart.
It seems like the longer I'm on the diet, the more my insulin cravings begin. A slight piece of dark chocolate here and a peppermint candy there and I am going through serious withdrawals.

I am a little scared when I do finally break that I will blow up just by eating everything that for the longest time I couldn't. It's gonna be a doooosy.

[Melissa]

you cals look way low too low for maintainance at quick glance let alone bulk
if cals are too low you will slwo you metab and gain fat hence tight clothes

i had one trainer had me at 1350 cals and 35 min cardio 7 days a week i was GETTING FAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

changed to my current trainer we got my off season up to 3000 cals 30 min 3-4 times a week and low and behold i was leaner and gained muscle and weekly cheat that was pretty damn big and after eating liek this offseason my prep went easy and smotth and i cam in my best ever!

Same here, Suzanne. My calories offseason used to be very low as well and lots of cardio (45-60 minutes/day, 5-6 days per week). During this past year and a half of an offseason, my calories were up around 3000 as well and cardio was 3x/week at 45 minutes. Put on more muscle than ever. I only hope my prep goes as easy and smoothly as yours!